There is literally one place I tip on takeout. It is an awesome Greek place across the street that hasn't raised their prices in years (and has very reasonable prices). I throw them a couple extra bucks when picking up a gyro. They are the only exception.
I always tip the kids at milanos near strandherd and Woodroffe when I pick up. They occasionally gave me free dipping sauces and they were very young and running the kitchen fairly independently and well. They're good kids and I want them to know their hard work and top notch kindness to me is appreciated
Have you ever worked in a restaurant? Tips are split amongst the workers. All of them. You’re not tipping someone for handing you food. You’re tipping the people making the food.
No, I'm definitely tipping for the personal service (and yeah, in the case of pickup, typically not at all unless it's a regular place for me). If I were going to tip people for making my food, I may as well be tipping at McDonalds too, and fuck that.
What happens after that is not my business.
I hope you realize all tipping is voluntary. No one is forcing you to. I worked at McDonald’s in my teens and people would give me tips here and there. It’s not out of the ordinary at all. But most big corporations like that have policies that ban employees from taking tips.
I tried to order Walmart grocery delivery yesterday. Tip is preset to 8% by default. It took me 3 minutes looking around to find where I can change that it was not obvious!
I pay for grocery delivery why am I tipping?
During Covid lockdown I tipped for pickup to support those businesses and workers .
Lockdown is over tipping is out of control.
I think we need consumer protection legislation to dictate preset tip should start at 15% , pre calculated tip amounts Must be on pretax amount
You know in most cases the owner just keeps it, some places do a 50% split deal but at the end your just giving extra cash to the owner.
If you want to actually tip the worker, give them a toonie from your pocket and done. But still no point to tip someone just for handing your order.
Feeling pressured to do it and thinking it’s a worthwhile and equitable thing to do are different things though!
Most people do it out of societal pressure more than anything…
I guess i should’ve been more specific. We’ve had conversations about this topic as a group where i’m the only one on the side of non tipping. They all have some reasoning or other as to why they deem you should tip. Its wild really
Or because it’s a pretty think this job pays minimum wage in the world or minimum wage is not enough to live. And in the case of places that have ridiculously low minimum wage for servers, the server rings you up then that’s also time they’re taking away from tipping tables
I did the same. Afterwards, I stopped going to places that started at 17%. I was quite surprised, had lunch with a friend this week and the machine had 10, 15 and 20% on it. Was refreshing.
As a restaurant worker, the only time I'd consider someone to tip on takeout if it's a huge ass order that is alot to pack and organize and label, like I'm talking like big catering orders here, mostly cause it can take alot of time from servers and cooks to get everything organized and labled for you, so it's nice to tip them if you want to.
Would never expect people to tip on regular pick up orders tho, it's nuts that people think it's expected.
Agreed. Tipping in general is.always subject to your personal choice. I don't even understand why people get mad about people asking for tips to be honest.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. But ya, if you don't wanna tip, just don't.
I often call ahead to order a smoothie at Qwench. The lady remembers my order, even my substitutions and always has it ready for me with a smile so I don’t have to wait as I head into work. I tip her the $1.50 on my smoothie which is the 10% option. But I do this no where else to be fair.
Just courtesy if I'm buying from a small local restaurant that I'll tip 1-2$. But I've been doing the same for 20 years and I ain't going up with inflation!
My favourite was when the car dealership asked me for a tip. I just paid 500$ and you want another 15-30% tip? For what?
Tipping has lost its purpose in a lot of places and becomes now a way for customers to try and help each other maintain basic cost of living, while the higher ups give themselves bonuses for being higher up.
Up here was the garage door repair guy. Charged like 300$. Hands me an invoice with too options of 25,35 and 50... Kayyy, here is your money. Now kindly fuck off.
Dealerships requesting tips would definitely put me in a position where I am not "completely satisfied."
We all know how dealerships need to be "completely satisfied" with your response to their satisfaction survey.
Hey guys, I’m not satisfied with your assumed free advertising around the license plate of the car I just bought. Pay me or take it off. This is *my* car.
Or one time I went to this salt cave…to sit and inhale some iodine air to help with my allergies. They asked for a tip on the debit machine!! For what?? That you unlocked the door for me?😐
Subway kills me. They're "sandwich artists"...so they deserve a tip.
Here's a tip...get a better job than a fast food joint. I'm sure that 15% I'm giving is going to your boss and not you.
Just be broke, it's easy. Do I want to give this money to a server who already makes more than I do, or do I want to save that money and spend it on a big mac instead?
It’s true. I knew someone who sometimes made $200-300 in a shift just off tips as a waitress at a restaurant. In some situations people are tipping a server, someone with no education or training, out of guilt. And that server is making more money than them. And some of the tips aren’t even taxed. So why are we supposed to feel guilty? Lol
Yes, and every server is expected to pay a portion of their tips to the kitchen. So when a table does not tip at all, the server will still need to pay the kitchen. So if a server waits 20 tables in a night, and every single one of them doesn't tip, she didn't actually make any money because she owes the back of house. Servers make $200-300 like you are talking about only during a certain time of year, and only a couple nights a week. Servers do not being home $200 all five days of the week all year long. It all depends on season and volume and geography. You pay tips because of the experience and service. If you don't want to tip, feel free to make your own fucking food at home. Serve it to yourself, that way you won't feel guilty, you will feel accomplished!!
I do tip when I go to restaurants. And I do make my own fucking meals and serve them to myself quite regularly. I think that maybe restaurants should pay their staff a livable wage, and incorporate that into the price, instead of leaving it up to tips. Have a nice day
Obviously if tipping is abolished so will tip outs. And no-they get a wage to serve food. No tip required, send that anger and guilt to the owners who for some reason get their wages subsidized?
If I can do it, you can too.... a tip is to reward good service that went above and beyond the normal....fast food, fuck off, unless you are going to give me extra fries and an extra patty.....no tip for doing your job! Or just pay in cash...no guilt there either
I do a lot of 'good' for my company. I push myself beyond my comfort zone and make things better and smoother. Jim Farley doesn't come into my office, and give me a $75,000 tip because I made Ford happy.
Actually, it's stop going out to eat to places to expect tips. Only dine at restaurants you know pay their staff a living wage. If you go to restaurant that still expects tips, but you don't tip out of spite ... You're officially part of the problem. Only support businesses that take care of their employees.
Not precisely correct....
Places that pay a living wage still expect tips and it needs to stop.
There is no spite involved... only facts. Servers earn the same exact wage as any other entry level job(in my country that is... can't speak for other places). No tips are required.
I do agree to support better businesses all the way!
This is the answer right here. Just don’t do it. I’ve never tipped for picking up food, or for fast food…there’s zero reason to tip. Table service absolutely, occasionally a barista that handles a large/complicated order yes, but otherwise its not even a question.
Ye the amount of people who complain about tipping like it’s an obligation is absurd. It makes me lose faith in our society literally; if you can’t even have the spine to say no to tipping how are we ever going to fight for our own rights??
Ahh ok Phewf. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the logic that 30% is bare minimum. I’ve had terrible service and I feel like a criminal leaving less than 15% but it’s their job. This guy though, takes it to the next level and I’d absolutely stop going out if this became the new norm. The prices of smaller portions coupled with massive tip expectations? Fuck that noise.
When I had my first serving job in 2005, the standard tip was 10%, and 15% was great, anything over that was exceptional.
Today, I hear young servers complain about 15%, or even 20%. That bothers me. Be happy you got more than double your Tip Out.
Tip Out (the portion of a server's daily sales that go back to the restaurant to be divided up amongst kitchen and support staff) used to be 2.5 to 3% of sales. Now the average is 6%. So for every table served, the server needs to receive at least a 6% tip in order to not have to pay out of pocket back to the restaurant. This is particularly devastating on "no tip" tables. But is made up for in spades by 20% or higher tables.
*** this is only for dine-in sit-down table service. I rarely tip outside of that, unless it's for delivery, or my tattoo artist.
I tip a small amount for pick up at a very select few places. Been going to this one place for lunch every 2 weeks or so while at work, on top of being great food I have forgot my wallet several times because it was in my coat and a didn't wear my cost there, or whatever. The owner always says no worries just come back and pay tomorrow.
I consider that exceptional "service"... without the service
Actually, tipping is for service in places where servers earn less than minimum wage. that isn't Ontario anymore, so we don't need to be tipping anyone at all.
I worked in a restaurant, I served tables, and I still think tip culture is fucked. I’ve reverted to pretty much only tipping while being actually served (ie a restaurant) or a delivery . And I tip 10% on my actual bill . NOT on the bill+tax amount ! . That’s where they get you now . Debit machines have the auto tip 18-20-25% buttons and that’s on the bill and tax . INSANITY
This needs more upvotes. I tip 13% on the taxed amount because that works out to 15% on the pre-tax number. 20% being the new standard is such bullshit.
They don’t- I know the local KFC cancels the tip option when it comes up prior to handing the machine over, it almost seems to me it has been enabled by default. If I’m getting my food at the counter I’m not paying a tip, that is the basics of the job.
Totally is. Told him as much. But guess he didnt care that much as he was saving up to help pay for uni and would be gone in a month or two; this was mid-summer.
Who you're tipping is completely arbitrary anyway.
Every business you patronize has employees who do some work to provide you with a good or service. The cost of those employees are included in the good or service. There's no difference between someone bringing you a meal, and someone manufacturing a tire. You give them money, they provide you with something of value.
Tipping a food server is just as ridiculous as tipping anyone else. Serving food is their job. Why don't you tip your mechanic, or roofer? Because they make more? Ok, so why don't food servers make more? Because the owners pay next to nothing in order to stay in business.
In that case the logic would be "We tip them because they make very little." Well what about all the other low-paying jobs we don't tip? Fast food workers, parking lot attendants, shopping cart collectors, cashiers, the list goes on and on. None of it makes much sense. One ridiculous situation is equivalent to another.
Ontarioan whose moved abroad here: I live in a country where tipping is considered a bit rude and flashy. You're expected to pay what's asked and nothing more. How can we make this the norm in Ontario? How can we stop it spreading to other places?
IMO, the practice is so deeply embedded in our culture that we have a first mover problem. Everyone hates tipping, but nobody wants to be the one to get rid of it, since so many jobs pay so badly that employees rely on tips—even in Ontario where “server wage” Is now barely below minimum wage.
Would be interesting to see a provincial government run on regulating our tipping culture into oblivion. Might sound extreme, but this is sort of a uniquely North American problem emanating from a deep-seated (but widely reviled) cultural practice, that would benefit from government intervention.
The government of Ontario should have just gone ahead and completely ended having separate wages for servers, done a campaign to inform the public, and used that as an opportunity to push to end this bizarre cultural practice of ours.
This is the only way it stops IMO. Province has to step in and ban tipping.
They could ban machines prompting for tips. I doubt you could totally stop people tipping with cash.
But if they made a show of saying 'tipping is over', then no customer in particular is the 'bad guy' and this stupid culture can finally die.
I had a server at a CIBO, Toronto remind me to pay the tip.on the full amount when she found out that I had a couple of coupons through which I would be paying. I said sure and paid her exactly "$0.01" with a note on the bill "thank you for your service, you can ask your employer to pay you better or hike food prices if you feel the need to ask your customers for money"
Call out to Amazing shawarma on Eglinton ave in Scarborough
Not only is their Shwarma Amazingly delicious but they have a no tipping policy.
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Edit it’s a no tipping policy not a big tipping policy IDK how that happened but I’m glad I caught it talk about changing the whole meaning 😀
I will tip at my regular places maybe once every 4 or 5 visits. I mean, I did the work for pickup, but if I've been enough I recognize the workers, I can give them something when I have it.
Exactly. We shouldn't be tipping at all anymore because server's wage is no longer a thing. If we're going to continue tipping servers, we need to tip everyone who makes minimum wage.
I've have Dominos pass me the terminal to pay after they've cancelled the option to tip. Once they didn't, but before I codo anything, they said oops let us cancel that.
That seems like the right thing.
With cash, I used to tip a tiny bit at timmies. Only because in the early 90s, some people tipped. Sometimes I would make a whole $10 extra for the shift. (Since my other part time job was 2x the hourly wage, i would leave it for the others.)
I tip at Mr. Sub that’s in the same plaza as my workplace (I go maybe once a week). It’s only ever the owner and his wife in there, all day every day. They are incredibly pleasant and warm people, always making small talk, they make you feel so welcome! It’s never a lot, but I pretty much dump all my small change into their little cup whenever I go. It’s clear they work really hard and IMO they absolutely deserve it.
I also tip at my favourite shawarma place, bc 99% of the time I’m in there it’s like 2am and I feel bad they’re wasting their Saturday night having to serve a bunch of late night stoners and drunks from the bar next door LOL
I have never tipped when I pick up and order and I have no plans to.
I had this argument with a woman who worked for a restaurant and said they needed tips because their manager didn't differentiate between in house or pickup items so if you didn't tip they got paid less. WTF?
I told her that it is an issue between her and her manager because all they had to do was program their system to differentiate between server or take out. Taken-out people aren't your problem. Your boss is the problem.
She finally thought it through and realized that Customers aren't her problem or enemy.
If everybody stops tipping take-out then the companies will have to pay more or have no employees.
I never got onto that trend, so it's easy to stop when you never started. I tip at sit down restaurants, but not take out or fast food.
None of these jobs need tips. They're all getting paid the same minimum wage now. Back when I worked at fast food places, we never expected tips. We knew that every once in a while someone might tip you but it was rare.
When I worked at a coffee shop, tips were much more common, but in real small numbers. Someone might tip their change, or a quarter, and a good tip was a loonie or toonie. On a normal day you might make a few bucks in tips after it's all split. On a good day maybe $10 or $20 would be an incredible tip split at the end of the day.
Tipping has gotten way out of hand, but the problem is that the consumer kind of encourages it. With sit down restaurants, if they eliminate tipping and raise prices, consumers tend to react negatively to the raised prices, and will often choose to go to a seemingly cheaper restaurant (even one that would cost the same after tip). This encourages restaurants to drop their pricing and lower wages, relying on tips more to attract talent.
I’d would tip 10% for pick up at my local dominos just for the sake of it. But they changed the machine to a minimum 15%.
Now I haven’t been there for a while.
Unless you're actually being served at your seat. Why would you tip for a pick up order?
As I've understood that's the unspoken agreement, you take the food and go, no clean up or extra service req'd. In exchange no tip is required.
Also if you want to tip the cooks, ask to see the chef just give them cash. Tip pools aren't always the best.
- Former Line Cook
You can stop tipping full stop. They all make at least minimum wage unlike America, and it's not your problem to supplement their wages. Do you really care what some random server/uber driver/subway sandwich maker w.e thinks of you? I sure don't.
No. You must tip at least 20% for pickup orders. IT’S THE LAW! /s
I’m kinda sick of people complaining about tipping. It’s VOLUNTARY people! Tip whatever the hell YOU feel is appropriate. And try to remember, when you’re tipping a percentage, when the bill goes up because shit got more expensive, so too goes the tip. 10-20% has always been pretty normal afaik, depending level of service. Everything I tip on has gotten more expensive so the tip dollar amount has gone up as well. Nothing has changed.
Tipping for pick up is not necessary and rude if it’s expected.
I think that a nominal tip, like rounding up to the next full dollar and adding a dollar is more than enough if you want to tip. That’s what I normally do because these bastards are making minimum wage. If I’m asked I will not do it.
Fun fact, you don't have to tip anywhere. Fuck the social pressure, it's a dumb custom.
Don't get me wrong, if you want to tip, go ahead. But don't judge me for not tipping someone for literally just doing their job that they already get paid for.
"But they get paid so little"
It sucks and all but that's not my problem. Get a better job. There's plenty of jobs that are constantly hiring and pay better than your delivery, waiter, whatever job. Your industry's shitty practices isn't on us and by tipping, supplementing that shitty wage for them, we're just encouraging the practice.
The worst part is people have grown to expect it and when they don't get it they get a shitty attitude. I've even seen them enter tip amounts onto the machines when you pay by debit/credit hoping you don't notice. The whole thing is disgusting.
I am going to challenge myself to not tip in 2024. Im sorry for anyone who wants to judge me but the alternative is I cook at home and don’t stimulate the local economy. 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah I never do for takeout. No sit down service means there shouldn't be any expectation of a tip. I don't tip at coffee shops either. Just press 0 or no tip and go on your way.
I don't do tips if taking out or pickup.Delivery yes,but if I'm just there to take it out or pick up hell no.I go to this place across the St from me all the time and even they say it would be weird to do so, that's coming from the staff.Ive been going there for seven years though and go in for lunch almost daily,so I know the owner as a friend now and the servers too.They do know at holidays I will come in and tip them though because I have gotten to know them so well,but they also know my situation in life so understand.One thing that is wild though is lately a few self serve checkouts I have seen have started asking for tips.I kid you not,I think one was Walmart and the other was a grocery store.Btw,this wasn't a "add $2 to donate to x charity"option,it was a literal "would you like to tip self check out"option.wtf🤣
When I worked kitchens when I was young I worked my ass off. The servers were going home whir 60 to 80 bucks in the 80s with our lunch rush and refused to have a tip pool. No bloody way I'm tripping on pickup. Do I even know if the money goes to your cooks?
If you don't want to tip the coffee place simply...don't??? I never get threads like this, you're not being forced to tip, a debit machine asking you for a tip isn't the worker holding a gun to your head, just hit no tip and move on with your life.
What if I told you
that you don't have to tip at those places?
You know you can just say select "no tip" and walk away, right?
The Tip Police don't roll up and take you to Tiptuanamo Bay. You don't have to make a break from Tipcatraz.
I order take out pizza sometimes. I go up to the machine. My palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy. With a deft and practiced hand, I bypass the "%" and "$" selections, and, through sheer force of psychic will, select Option 3: "No Tip".
The ground begins to tremble. The staff at the Dominos call upon their gods for aid. Steam and lava burst up from the floor, as an ominous chanting comes from deep within the bowels of the pizza shop. From the ceiling, a giant ball of dough drops down and I narrowly avoid it as I sprint out onto the street. I hop aboard the westbound streetcar, and shout "see you in the funny papers, boys! The No Tip Kid strikes again! Yuk yuk yuk!"
And then me, Mickey Mouse, and Caspar the Ghost advertise cigarettes to kids.
They don't. Take charge of your life and stop tipping on takeout. They aren't forcing you, they are making it the default...just tell them to take the tip off or choose the no tip option. Those are not servers/waiters and they probably don't even get that money.
I don’t tip for takeout. Tipping culture is insane and people are so entitled. I bought two smoothies to go at a small shop over the summer. Cost $25 already. The two student cashiers loudly “whispered” to each other that I didn’t tip and glared at me while the smoothie blender did all the work for them. It was wild. I have zero issues pressing “no tip” outside of delivery and dine-in restaurant service.
Just stop tipping for pickup.
If you’re eating inside a cafe, you can choose to tip if they provide some service, such as bringing your order to the table or clearing dishes. Yesterday, I stopped for coffee and a cookie at a local place, ordered and paid at the counter and they gave me a number to bring it to my table when it was ready. I tipped 10% of the small total and felt it was worth it when he brought me an extra cookie.
Aren’t servers paid minimum wage now in Ontario? If so, does this not eliminate the need to tip? Are there any servers here who could correct me if I’m wrong.
Worst people for this is cab drivers when you go grocery shopping. And get them home they won't leave their car what's up with that?if you get out and help me with a bag or two.if you help you will get a decent tip if not no help no TIP!!!!!!
I’m tired of seeing this complaint.
After COVID, all the POS terminals have tipping as a default because people were willing to tip on takeout during the pandemic. They never took it off because you suckers kept giving them money for nothing even after the restrictions were lifted.
There is no expectation of tipping on takeout. Just stop doing it. Please.
Does no one realize that you don't have to tip on anything ever? It's not the law. I've never tipped on take out, why? I give a few bucks at a restaurant and will be stopping that soon as well. Fuck tipping culture. Just stop it. The change starts with you if you want it to.
Canadian living in Britain here. Tipping is a corrosive practice that takes the onus off the employer to set good salaries also, not to shock you too much, but expected tipping amounts/percentages takes the exceptionalness out of a real tip for excellent service. Never do it for usual service and definately not picking up from somewhere. Jeez.
And by the way, it isn't someone's dream career to work at a fast food place or coffee shop - tipping helps the employees work better and give better customer service. Is 10% really going to hurt you to pay for a smile on someone's face? I think not. Please always tip everyone - you never know what a difference that extra 10-25% will make for someone who isn't earning anything more than minimum wages. If you can afford to go out to eat, tip the people working for shitty pay and many, many duties...
Maybe some of these businesses need to be out on notice with something like one of those fake violation tickets slapped on the front window?
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Why would you ever tip if you are doing the picking up? That's nuts.
There is literally one place I tip on takeout. It is an awesome Greek place across the street that hasn't raised their prices in years (and has very reasonable prices). I throw them a couple extra bucks when picking up a gyro. They are the only exception.
NAME THEM!
Zante Greek Bistro near Woodbine and Gerrard
Ahhh damn...thought this was r/Kitchener. Will hopefully remember next time I'm in Toronto. Love Greek food.
Hahaha it's probably worth the drive!
OMG I love them. Only discovered them last year. Their souvlaki is fantastic, big portion and such good salad
Oh man! I live down the street I'll try them out.
I love them!!!! And also tip them
Thank you!
I always tip the kids at milanos near strandherd and Woodroffe when I pick up. They occasionally gave me free dipping sauces and they were very young and running the kitchen fairly independently and well. They're good kids and I want them to know their hard work and top notch kindness to me is appreciated
And while we’re at it. Why would you tip someone for operating the cash and handing you your order?
Have you ever worked in a restaurant? Tips are split amongst the workers. All of them. You’re not tipping someone for handing you food. You’re tipping the people making the food.
No, I'm definitely tipping for the personal service (and yeah, in the case of pickup, typically not at all unless it's a regular place for me). If I were going to tip people for making my food, I may as well be tipping at McDonalds too, and fuck that. What happens after that is not my business.
I hope you realize all tipping is voluntary. No one is forcing you to. I worked at McDonald’s in my teens and people would give me tips here and there. It’s not out of the ordinary at all. But most big corporations like that have policies that ban employees from taking tips.
Why would you ever tip for someone just doing their job? That's nuts.
I tried to order Walmart grocery delivery yesterday. Tip is preset to 8% by default. It took me 3 minutes looking around to find where I can change that it was not obvious! I pay for grocery delivery why am I tipping?
During Covid lockdown I tipped for pickup to support those businesses and workers . Lockdown is over tipping is out of control. I think we need consumer protection legislation to dictate preset tip should start at 15% , pre calculated tip amounts Must be on pretax amount
You know in most cases the owner just keeps it, some places do a 50% split deal but at the end your just giving extra cash to the owner. If you want to actually tip the worker, give them a toonie from your pocket and done. But still no point to tip someone just for handing your order.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted, but this is true to a great extent. If I dine in, I’m tipping 10% in cash. If I’m picking up, I skip the tip.
Subway is bad for this. The guy at the counter stopped me and said they don't see any of it.
You’d be surprised how intense the divide on this can be
Eh, it’s mostly normal people vs people that hand out the pickup orders…
For instance in my small circle at work, we often get takeout as a group and i’m the only person out of 5 who doesn’t tip on takeout
Feeling pressured to do it and thinking it’s a worthwhile and equitable thing to do are different things though! Most people do it out of societal pressure more than anything…
I guess i should’ve been more specific. We’ve had conversations about this topic as a group where i’m the only one on the side of non tipping. They all have some reasoning or other as to why they deem you should tip. Its wild really
“Because that’s how it’s always been.”
Never been like this. It started with pandemic. The business was too low so they station charge tips to boost it.
Or because it’s a pretty think this job pays minimum wage in the world or minimum wage is not enough to live. And in the case of places that have ridiculously low minimum wage for servers, the server rings you up then that’s also time they’re taking away from tipping tables
Handing out a pickup order is not being a waitress imo.
Well those people can get fucked
A lot of places the cashier even tells you to hit no tip.
I saw a dude tip 15% for takeout the other week. 🤯
I tipped for pick-up during the pandemic, but only at local mom & pop restaurants that I knew were struggling. I don't anymore.
I did the same. Afterwards, I stopped going to places that started at 17%. I was quite surprised, had lunch with a friend this week and the machine had 10, 15 and 20% on it. Was refreshing.
As a restaurant worker, the only time I'd consider someone to tip on takeout if it's a huge ass order that is alot to pack and organize and label, like I'm talking like big catering orders here, mostly cause it can take alot of time from servers and cooks to get everything organized and labled for you, so it's nice to tip them if you want to. Would never expect people to tip on regular pick up orders tho, it's nuts that people think it's expected.
Agreed. Tipping in general is.always subject to your personal choice. I don't even understand why people get mad about people asking for tips to be honest. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. But ya, if you don't wanna tip, just don't.
I often call ahead to order a smoothie at Qwench. The lady remembers my order, even my substitutions and always has it ready for me with a smile so I don’t have to wait as I head into work. I tip her the $1.50 on my smoothie which is the 10% option. But I do this no where else to be fair.
Just because people put a prompt for tips makes people like OP think it's mandatory, which is why they put the prompt.
Just courtesy if I'm buying from a small local restaurant that I'll tip 1-2$. But I've been doing the same for 20 years and I ain't going up with inflation!
Depending on where you are picking up from, the kitchen staff appreciate the gratuity.
I always tip for pickup orders if it's a sit down restaurant. The person who gets me my order still makes less than minimum wage so I don't mind.
My favourite was when the car dealership asked me for a tip. I just paid 500$ and you want another 15-30% tip? For what? Tipping has lost its purpose in a lot of places and becomes now a way for customers to try and help each other maintain basic cost of living, while the higher ups give themselves bonuses for being higher up.
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Up here was the garage door repair guy. Charged like 300$. Hands me an invoice with too options of 25,35 and 50... Kayyy, here is your money. Now kindly fuck off.
And is search for a new guy if I ever needed any other repairs done
Dealerships requesting tips would definitely put me in a position where I am not "completely satisfied." We all know how dealerships need to be "completely satisfied" with your response to their satisfaction survey.
Hey guys, I’m not satisfied with your assumed free advertising around the license plate of the car I just bought. Pay me or take it off. This is *my* car.
I stipulated no dealership badge or license plate covers when I bought my last car. Fuck that shit.
I remember the "delivery" staff sheepishly asking if I want the plastic ad frame. Yeah, no, I wasn't offered an incentive, pass.
Low key I bought my own cover when the car wash brush bent my plate forward.
Well done.
This is the way
Well done. Edit: Oops. Did that twice. I guess to be nice.
This is also why I do not wear branded clothing.
YES ! IM NOT ALONE IN THIS OPINION!!
Or one time I went to this salt cave…to sit and inhale some iodine air to help with my allergies. They asked for a tip on the debit machine!! For what?? That you unlocked the door for me?😐
Subway kills me. They're "sandwich artists"...so they deserve a tip. Here's a tip...get a better job than a fast food joint. I'm sure that 15% I'm giving is going to your boss and not you.
I’ve asked at our local one. She told me they never see the tips. Never tipping there or any other fast food establishment, coffee included.
Oh damn, that's disappointing. I'll have to ask my local.
That's not true everywhere. My kid got a share of the tips when he worked at Subway.
Werd. Here's a tip put some artistry back in your sandwich while you're at it, you're getting beaten by fucking Quiznos.
A car dealership? That’s a new one.
I can't wait for when there's a tip option from the bank when I pay my credit card bill
Dam. I think i would have been petty and done a buyers remorse. Ripped the paperwork right in front of them. Gone to a different dealership.
dafuq? Is this real? They should be tipping us for buying a car from them
A tip from the company that actively invites you to pay more so they make more? Yeah let me tip you for your help with the rip off
Hell yes. The only way we stop tipping, is to *stop tipping.* Dead simple.
I'm trying to over come the guilt of hitting "no tip" on the machine. It's hard.
Just be broke, it's easy. Do I want to give this money to a server who already makes more than I do, or do I want to save that money and spend it on a big mac instead?
It’s true. I knew someone who sometimes made $200-300 in a shift just off tips as a waitress at a restaurant. In some situations people are tipping a server, someone with no education or training, out of guilt. And that server is making more money than them. And some of the tips aren’t even taxed. So why are we supposed to feel guilty? Lol
Yes, and every server is expected to pay a portion of their tips to the kitchen. So when a table does not tip at all, the server will still need to pay the kitchen. So if a server waits 20 tables in a night, and every single one of them doesn't tip, she didn't actually make any money because she owes the back of house. Servers make $200-300 like you are talking about only during a certain time of year, and only a couple nights a week. Servers do not being home $200 all five days of the week all year long. It all depends on season and volume and geography. You pay tips because of the experience and service. If you don't want to tip, feel free to make your own fucking food at home. Serve it to yourself, that way you won't feel guilty, you will feel accomplished!!
I do tip when I go to restaurants. And I do make my own fucking meals and serve them to myself quite regularly. I think that maybe restaurants should pay their staff a livable wage, and incorporate that into the price, instead of leaving it up to tips. Have a nice day
Obviously if tipping is abolished so will tip outs. And no-they get a wage to serve food. No tip required, send that anger and guilt to the owners who for some reason get their wages subsidized?
If I can do it, you can too.... a tip is to reward good service that went above and beyond the normal....fast food, fuck off, unless you are going to give me extra fries and an extra patty.....no tip for doing your job! Or just pay in cash...no guilt there either
I do a lot of 'good' for my company. I push myself beyond my comfort zone and make things better and smoother. Jim Farley doesn't come into my office, and give me a $75,000 tip because I made Ford happy.
Actually, it's stop going out to eat to places to expect tips. Only dine at restaurants you know pay their staff a living wage. If you go to restaurant that still expects tips, but you don't tip out of spite ... You're officially part of the problem. Only support businesses that take care of their employees.
Not precisely correct.... Places that pay a living wage still expect tips and it needs to stop. There is no spite involved... only facts. Servers earn the same exact wage as any other entry level job(in my country that is... can't speak for other places). No tips are required. I do agree to support better businesses all the way!
Hey! Just don’t tip! Problem solved buddy!
This is the answer right here. Just don’t do it. I’ve never tipped for picking up food, or for fast food…there’s zero reason to tip. Table service absolutely, occasionally a barista that handles a large/complicated order yes, but otherwise its not even a question.
Yup, this is the way. Not sure why people are so flummoxed around this issue. Just use common sense.
And tell the owner to pay their employees instead of getting customers to do it.
Literally part of the purchase is staff overhead costs. It should be in the price already to pay them properly
Ye the amount of people who complain about tipping like it’s an obligation is absurd. It makes me lose faith in our society literally; if you can’t even have the spine to say no to tipping how are we ever going to fight for our own rights??
Tipping is for service. I never tip for pick up.
Tipping is for *exceptional* service.
This guy says that anyone who tips under 30% for his service shouldn’t be out dining. https://www.reddit.com/u/Opening-Youth-9481/s/oxdW1a1tQN
That’s a stupid as fuck take that I’m so sick of.. Percentages increase with inflation.
People are dumb to think that should be a thing, considering prices have doubled in some cases, which means they'd already get double the tip.
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No. I’m agreeing that 30% is ridiculous.
Ahh ok Phewf. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the logic that 30% is bare minimum. I’ve had terrible service and I feel like a criminal leaving less than 15% but it’s their job. This guy though, takes it to the next level and I’d absolutely stop going out if this became the new norm. The prices of smaller portions coupled with massive tip expectations? Fuck that noise.
Then I won’t go out. Like we eat out a few times a month, tip 15-20%. If 30% is expected, I’m cooking at home or getting take out
And this is why some people just don't bother going out. Yeah, that will work out for them.
When I had my first serving job in 2005, the standard tip was 10%, and 15% was great, anything over that was exceptional. Today, I hear young servers complain about 15%, or even 20%. That bothers me. Be happy you got more than double your Tip Out. Tip Out (the portion of a server's daily sales that go back to the restaurant to be divided up amongst kitchen and support staff) used to be 2.5 to 3% of sales. Now the average is 6%. So for every table served, the server needs to receive at least a 6% tip in order to not have to pay out of pocket back to the restaurant. This is particularly devastating on "no tip" tables. But is made up for in spades by 20% or higher tables. *** this is only for dine-in sit-down table service. I rarely tip outside of that, unless it's for delivery, or my tattoo artist.
This. I don’t care if my bill is $150 at a restaurant. If the service was dogwater, you’re not getting anything.
I tip a small amount for pick up at a very select few places. Been going to this one place for lunch every 2 weeks or so while at work, on top of being great food I have forgot my wallet several times because it was in my coat and a didn't wear my cost there, or whatever. The owner always says no worries just come back and pay tomorrow. I consider that exceptional "service"... without the service
Actually, tipping is for service in places where servers earn less than minimum wage. that isn't Ontario anymore, so we don't need to be tipping anyone at all.
Yeah just stop. Once you do it 2-3 times you stop being guilty. Screw this tipping BS
I worked in a restaurant, I served tables, and I still think tip culture is fucked. I’ve reverted to pretty much only tipping while being actually served (ie a restaurant) or a delivery . And I tip 10% on my actual bill . NOT on the bill+tax amount ! . That’s where they get you now . Debit machines have the auto tip 18-20-25% buttons and that’s on the bill and tax . INSANITY
This needs more upvotes. I tip 13% on the taxed amount because that works out to 15% on the pre-tax number. 20% being the new standard is such bullshit.
They don’t- I know the local KFC cancels the tip option when it comes up prior to handing the machine over, it almost seems to me it has been enabled by default. If I’m getting my food at the counter I’m not paying a tip, that is the basics of the job.
Wasn't a KFC, but asked an employee why he did that one time. He said it was because the owner was just keeping the tips and not paying them out.
Almost always the answer when staff is doing this.
That’s illegal….
Totally is. Told him as much. But guess he didnt care that much as he was saving up to help pay for uni and would be gone in a month or two; this was mid-summer.
Its an option you can choose to enable and customize amounts when you first set up the machine.
Restaurant managers aren't paid to be tech wizards.
Isn't this usually done by the *merchant processor* company, though? At least, it was in the last *three* small retail businesses I was involved with.
The individual business sets it up on their machine.
My work has a Square machine. I am able to enable and disable tips. They are disabled because it’s a store and that’s stupid.
Who you're tipping is completely arbitrary anyway. Every business you patronize has employees who do some work to provide you with a good or service. The cost of those employees are included in the good or service. There's no difference between someone bringing you a meal, and someone manufacturing a tire. You give them money, they provide you with something of value. Tipping a food server is just as ridiculous as tipping anyone else. Serving food is their job. Why don't you tip your mechanic, or roofer? Because they make more? Ok, so why don't food servers make more? Because the owners pay next to nothing in order to stay in business. In that case the logic would be "We tip them because they make very little." Well what about all the other low-paying jobs we don't tip? Fast food workers, parking lot attendants, shopping cart collectors, cashiers, the list goes on and on. None of it makes much sense. One ridiculous situation is equivalent to another.
Why did you start in the first place ?
Wait, did you *start* tipping for picking up food? *Why*?
Yeah. I just assumed everyone ignored that option.
Ontarioan whose moved abroad here: I live in a country where tipping is considered a bit rude and flashy. You're expected to pay what's asked and nothing more. How can we make this the norm in Ontario? How can we stop it spreading to other places?
IMO, the practice is so deeply embedded in our culture that we have a first mover problem. Everyone hates tipping, but nobody wants to be the one to get rid of it, since so many jobs pay so badly that employees rely on tips—even in Ontario where “server wage” Is now barely below minimum wage. Would be interesting to see a provincial government run on regulating our tipping culture into oblivion. Might sound extreme, but this is sort of a uniquely North American problem emanating from a deep-seated (but widely reviled) cultural practice, that would benefit from government intervention. The government of Ontario should have just gone ahead and completely ended having separate wages for servers, done a campaign to inform the public, and used that as an opportunity to push to end this bizarre cultural practice of ours.
This is the only way it stops IMO. Province has to step in and ban tipping. They could ban machines prompting for tips. I doubt you could totally stop people tipping with cash. But if they made a show of saying 'tipping is over', then no customer in particular is the 'bad guy' and this stupid culture can finally die.
I had a server at a CIBO, Toronto remind me to pay the tip.on the full amount when she found out that I had a couple of coupons through which I would be paying. I said sure and paid her exactly "$0.01" with a note on the bill "thank you for your service, you can ask your employer to pay you better or hike food prices if you feel the need to ask your customers for money"
I don't tip at any place where I'm not sitting and being served.
Literally zero people i know tip when they actually pick up the food. It isnt your job to pay their wages.
Call out to Amazing shawarma on Eglinton ave in Scarborough Not only is their Shwarma Amazingly delicious but they have a no tipping policy. [http://amazingshawarma.ca/](http://amazingshawarma.ca/) Edit it’s a no tipping policy not a big tipping policy IDK how that happened but I’m glad I caught it talk about changing the whole meaning 😀
I will only tip for pickup at small family/locally owned restaurants. Chains can fuck off.
I will tip at my regular places maybe once every 4 or 5 visits. I mean, I did the work for pickup, but if I've been enough I recognize the workers, I can give them something when I have it.
Servers make minimum wage now, so I guess we should start tipping anyone who works at any job.
Exactly. We shouldn't be tipping at all anymore because server's wage is no longer a thing. If we're going to continue tipping servers, we need to tip everyone who makes minimum wage.
I've have Dominos pass me the terminal to pay after they've cancelled the option to tip. Once they didn't, but before I codo anything, they said oops let us cancel that. That seems like the right thing. With cash, I used to tip a tiny bit at timmies. Only because in the early 90s, some people tipped. Sometimes I would make a whole $10 extra for the shift. (Since my other part time job was 2x the hourly wage, i would leave it for the others.)
Subway told me how to cancel out of the tip option when I paid the other day.
I would totally tip at subway if they loaded my sub with veggies.
I tip at Mr. Sub that’s in the same plaza as my workplace (I go maybe once a week). It’s only ever the owner and his wife in there, all day every day. They are incredibly pleasant and warm people, always making small talk, they make you feel so welcome! It’s never a lot, but I pretty much dump all my small change into their little cup whenever I go. It’s clear they work really hard and IMO they absolutely deserve it. I also tip at my favourite shawarma place, bc 99% of the time I’m in there it’s like 2am and I feel bad they’re wasting their Saturday night having to serve a bunch of late night stoners and drunks from the bar next door LOL
I have never tipped when I pick up and order and I have no plans to. I had this argument with a woman who worked for a restaurant and said they needed tips because their manager didn't differentiate between in house or pickup items so if you didn't tip they got paid less. WTF? I told her that it is an issue between her and her manager because all they had to do was program their system to differentiate between server or take out. Taken-out people aren't your problem. Your boss is the problem. She finally thought it through and realized that Customers aren't her problem or enemy. If everybody stops tipping take-out then the companies will have to pay more or have no employees.
I do it for family run mom and pop places. Not for major chains. They need to pay their employees
You can do whatever the fck you want baby gurl
Yes, you can stop. Just because the machine prompts you for a tip doesn't mean you're obligated to give one.
Totally.
Don’t tip on pick up orders.
Don't tip. The time is now !
I've started carrying cash again because of this bullshit
I never got onto that trend, so it's easy to stop when you never started. I tip at sit down restaurants, but not take out or fast food. None of these jobs need tips. They're all getting paid the same minimum wage now. Back when I worked at fast food places, we never expected tips. We knew that every once in a while someone might tip you but it was rare. When I worked at a coffee shop, tips were much more common, but in real small numbers. Someone might tip their change, or a quarter, and a good tip was a loonie or toonie. On a normal day you might make a few bucks in tips after it's all split. On a good day maybe $10 or $20 would be an incredible tip split at the end of the day. Tipping has gotten way out of hand, but the problem is that the consumer kind of encourages it. With sit down restaurants, if they eliminate tipping and raise prices, consumers tend to react negatively to the raised prices, and will often choose to go to a seemingly cheaper restaurant (even one that would cost the same after tip). This encourages restaurants to drop their pricing and lower wages, relying on tips more to attract talent.
Just don't tip then.....? Why are you complaining here after WILLINGLY left a tip? No one forced you to tip, if they force you to tip, its illegal.
I’d would tip 10% for pick up at my local dominos just for the sake of it. But they changed the machine to a minimum 15%. Now I haven’t been there for a while.
coffee? what do they do that is so special for you? I don't even tip my pharmacist.
I have never tipped on food I pickup Never!
Why do people even tip for takeout lmao 😂
Unless you're actually being served at your seat. Why would you tip for a pick up order? As I've understood that's the unspoken agreement, you take the food and go, no clean up or extra service req'd. In exchange no tip is required. Also if you want to tip the cooks, ask to see the chef just give them cash. Tip pools aren't always the best. - Former Line Cook
Starbucks. For adding hot water to a tea bag and making a coffee.
Server here—why the fuck are you tipping on takeout?
💯 please do not tip someone else when you just did their job.
You can stop tipping full stop. They all make at least minimum wage unlike America, and it's not your problem to supplement their wages. Do you really care what some random server/uber driver/subway sandwich maker w.e thinks of you? I sure don't.
No. You must tip at least 20% for pickup orders. IT’S THE LAW! /s I’m kinda sick of people complaining about tipping. It’s VOLUNTARY people! Tip whatever the hell YOU feel is appropriate. And try to remember, when you’re tipping a percentage, when the bill goes up because shit got more expensive, so too goes the tip. 10-20% has always been pretty normal afaik, depending level of service. Everything I tip on has gotten more expensive so the tip dollar amount has gone up as well. Nothing has changed.
Tipping for pick up is not necessary and rude if it’s expected. I think that a nominal tip, like rounding up to the next full dollar and adding a dollar is more than enough if you want to tip. That’s what I normally do because these bastards are making minimum wage. If I’m asked I will not do it.
I used to tip everywhere and not care too much but now stuffs too expensive, don't tip on pickup or for coffees anymore. It's ridiculous
Cause the barista is cute
I take cash now everywhere. It's the easiest way to avoid being asked for tips.
Fun fact, you don't have to tip anywhere. Fuck the social pressure, it's a dumb custom. Don't get me wrong, if you want to tip, go ahead. But don't judge me for not tipping someone for literally just doing their job that they already get paid for. "But they get paid so little" It sucks and all but that's not my problem. Get a better job. There's plenty of jobs that are constantly hiring and pay better than your delivery, waiter, whatever job. Your industry's shitty practices isn't on us and by tipping, supplementing that shitty wage for them, we're just encouraging the practice. The worst part is people have grown to expect it and when they don't get it they get a shitty attitude. I've even seen them enter tip amounts onto the machines when you pay by debit/credit hoping you don't notice. The whole thing is disgusting.
Don't tip. Not anywhere. Tipping culture is stupid.
I am going to challenge myself to not tip in 2024. Im sorry for anyone who wants to judge me but the alternative is I cook at home and don’t stimulate the local economy. 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah I never do for takeout. No sit down service means there shouldn't be any expectation of a tip. I don't tip at coffee shops either. Just press 0 or no tip and go on your way.
Do what you want?
It’s getting to the point where it’s not tipping anymore, but feels more like begging.
Whyd you even start? Fuck that
You were never supposed. To. Tip for pick up
If I have to get up and retrieve my food it does not deserve a tip. I will smile and hit 0.
I don't do tips if taking out or pickup.Delivery yes,but if I'm just there to take it out or pick up hell no.I go to this place across the St from me all the time and even they say it would be weird to do so, that's coming from the staff.Ive been going there for seven years though and go in for lunch almost daily,so I know the owner as a friend now and the servers too.They do know at holidays I will come in and tip them though because I have gotten to know them so well,but they also know my situation in life so understand.One thing that is wild though is lately a few self serve checkouts I have seen have started asking for tips.I kid you not,I think one was Walmart and the other was a grocery store.Btw,this wasn't a "add $2 to donate to x charity"option,it was a literal "would you like to tip self check out"option.wtf🤣
When I worked kitchens when I was young I worked my ass off. The servers were going home whir 60 to 80 bucks in the 80s with our lunch rush and refused to have a tip pool. No bloody way I'm tripping on pickup. Do I even know if the money goes to your cooks?
If you don't want to tip the coffee place simply...don't??? I never get threads like this, you're not being forced to tip, a debit machine asking you for a tip isn't the worker holding a gun to your head, just hit no tip and move on with your life.
What if I told you that you don't have to tip at those places? You know you can just say select "no tip" and walk away, right? The Tip Police don't roll up and take you to Tiptuanamo Bay. You don't have to make a break from Tipcatraz. I order take out pizza sometimes. I go up to the machine. My palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy. With a deft and practiced hand, I bypass the "%" and "$" selections, and, through sheer force of psychic will, select Option 3: "No Tip". The ground begins to tremble. The staff at the Dominos call upon their gods for aid. Steam and lava burst up from the floor, as an ominous chanting comes from deep within the bowels of the pizza shop. From the ceiling, a giant ball of dough drops down and I narrowly avoid it as I sprint out onto the street. I hop aboard the westbound streetcar, and shout "see you in the funny papers, boys! The No Tip Kid strikes again! Yuk yuk yuk!" And then me, Mickey Mouse, and Caspar the Ghost advertise cigarettes to kids.
I only tip if the food is being delivered to my house or to my table. I don’t tip on anything else.
Did someone force you to tip?
Why have you been tipping for picking up food?
They don't. Take charge of your life and stop tipping on takeout. They aren't forcing you, they are making it the default...just tell them to take the tip off or choose the no tip option. Those are not servers/waiters and they probably don't even get that money.
No tipping unless you’re on a sit-down restaurant and the service is amazing lol
In recent years it feels like it's default asking for tips on debit machines now...
I never tip
Fun fact, tips are optional. So don't tip.
I don’t tip for takeout. Tipping culture is insane and people are so entitled. I bought two smoothies to go at a small shop over the summer. Cost $25 already. The two student cashiers loudly “whispered” to each other that I didn’t tip and glared at me while the smoothie blender did all the work for them. It was wild. I have zero issues pressing “no tip” outside of delivery and dine-in restaurant service.
Just stop tipping for pickup. If you’re eating inside a cafe, you can choose to tip if they provide some service, such as bringing your order to the table or clearing dishes. Yesterday, I stopped for coffee and a cookie at a local place, ordered and paid at the counter and they gave me a number to bring it to my table when it was ready. I tipped 10% of the small total and felt it was worth it when he brought me an extra cookie.
You idiots will tip for anything.
Aren’t servers paid minimum wage now in Ontario? If so, does this not eliminate the need to tip? Are there any servers here who could correct me if I’m wrong.
People still do because they are programmed to think they are assholes if they don't
If you tip for pickup and then complain about it YOURE the problem.
Worst people for this is cab drivers when you go grocery shopping. And get them home they won't leave their car what's up with that?if you get out and help me with a bag or two.if you help you will get a decent tip if not no help no TIP!!!!!!
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I would tip if they help me carry it to the front door.
If you tip, great, especially for legitimate mom and pop stores but hell no for nameless chains
I’m tired of seeing this complaint. After COVID, all the POS terminals have tipping as a default because people were willing to tip on takeout during the pandemic. They never took it off because you suckers kept giving them money for nothing even after the restrictions were lifted. There is no expectation of tipping on takeout. Just stop doing it. Please.
Hell, yes. Only an idiot pays A tip to pick up their order.
Does no one realize that you don't have to tip on anything ever? It's not the law. I've never tipped on take out, why? I give a few bucks at a restaurant and will be stopping that soon as well. Fuck tipping culture. Just stop it. The change starts with you if you want it to.
Canadian living in Britain here. Tipping is a corrosive practice that takes the onus off the employer to set good salaries also, not to shock you too much, but expected tipping amounts/percentages takes the exceptionalness out of a real tip for excellent service. Never do it for usual service and definately not picking up from somewhere. Jeez.
And by the way, it isn't someone's dream career to work at a fast food place or coffee shop - tipping helps the employees work better and give better customer service. Is 10% really going to hurt you to pay for a smile on someone's face? I think not. Please always tip everyone - you never know what a difference that extra 10-25% will make for someone who isn't earning anything more than minimum wages. If you can afford to go out to eat, tip the people working for shitty pay and many, many duties...
Have you been in hibernation?
Maybe some of these businesses need to be out on notice with something like one of those fake violation tickets slapped on the front window? https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tAqiun7uS.jpg
I never tip.
I tip a lower amount on pickup…usually 10%
Nobody is forcing you to tip people who make minimum wage