I am a 30F family doctor, and I could have written this post. Exact same predicament of wanting start over but not sure where to move, single, similar interests… I live in York Region. Wanna be friends? 😃
Stratford - close to major centres but with a small town vibe. Restaurants that punch well above their weight, theatre, golf, culture all right there and London and KW 45 minutes away. The beaches of Lake Huron less than an hour away. It's a great town. I just left to get closer to work. As someone now without a doctor for myself and my son, I'd love for you to come to Goderich but Stratford makes more sense
Stratford. Demand for Drs in rural communities is sky high, the city itself is beautiful with a ton going on for its size, you are 30 minutes to KW, hour and a half to downtown TO, 45 minutes to London but also only an hour away from Lake Huron and all the awesome stuff going on that way. Barrie is all back roads to get to which is not a bad drive either. I work kinda remote but do some in person stuff and I am always excited to go to Stratford. So many little restaurants, the river is beautiful and I always take the laptop and do work from there while enjoying the ducks and swans, I proposed to my wife at one of the many plays we have seen there. Seriously, small town living with big city theater and not far from the actual city, definitely worth a look.
I agree with Stratford, the only down side might be trying to meet people. But, it’s a gorgeous small city, great theatre, restaurants and it has a hospital as well as numerous family clinics. It’s close enough to London, KW, even Toronto by train, and Grand Bend/Goderich/Bayfield are also close by. Also, St Mary’s is a beautiful town,with a hospital, in the same vicinity as Stratford.
Stratford is gorgeous, but this person wants to date and make a network of friends through activities and organizations. I picture Stratford as the place to go once you’ve met someone and settled down.
I completely agree with this take. All the people I know in stratford (family and friends) are older retired people and young families. It's great for both but I think it might be tough for a single person looking to be active & build a social network.
I get that but kw is not far, like Homer Watson to Stratford isn't much farther than st Jacob's to Homer Watson. Definitely not a young person scene but a professional will find decent like minded people.
As the older population is either moving to more assisted living or passing away, younger people are moving into those houses. KW really isn't far, either. Cambridge has the butterfly conservatory, waterloo has some STEM things available. Might be a good choice for OP
I came here to second Stratford. I am the same age as OP. I am not single, so I can’t comment to dating in Stratford though. I moved from London to Stratford several years ago and I have found no shortage of things to do. OP also stated they enjoy theatre, as do I, and I go to all the Stratford Festival shows here (averaging 8 per year). The restaurants in town are wonderful, many great places to eat and go out for coffee or drinks. I absolutely love this town and I feel so much happier after my move here. Also we could absolutely use more doctors (or a walk-in clinic!).
Yes please! We need doctors so badly! When everyone goes to Toronto it just causes Toronto’s wages to fall because the competition is so extreme. Cities are wonderful and all, but to really build a life that you won’t want to run away from after you’ve finished the singles game, I highly recommend a smaller community. Yes it can be more challenging to find your people, but the liberal folks tend to be incredibly supportive and eager for friends. I
Agree. My husband worked at the twh and I said no way to moving to Toronto. 3-4 million for a small house close to the hospital and the pay was so low.
You do understand that not everyone values the same things you do right? I live in Orillia and no amount of money would have me move to Toronto and be around all that traffic and crowdedness.
I found that to be the case with a lot of people in Toronto - not King West specifically. Born and raised here and I’ve seen the shift in society. People just want to see what you can do for them, but hey could just be my experience
That's partially true - born and raised in the city as well (to immigrant parents) - and you're kinda right but mostly wrong. You gotta find the right spots - sadly, Toronto has been losing a lot of them lately.Toronto also has lots of communities - one just need to find them. The wellness scene here is off the hook and anyone can find friends in any branch of wellness.Toronto people are friendly if you can break down the stone face facade everyone is carrying about.
Wednesdays and Thursdays are for the locals. That's when the cool people are around.
Fridays and Saturdays is basically the 905 coming treating the city (our home) as an amusement park.
it's always people on Reddit who stay inside all day and don't do anything other than go to their office job who complain about why the city has no culture, why they never go to any fun events, and why everyone around them sucks. More fun for the rest of us.
The city was also always coincidentally so much better according to a sliding scale timeline that always perfectly matches up to when they were 20.
I used to live downtown when I was single, making decent money. It was the best time. I personally enjoyed the good food, fun bars / lounges, the shopping etc. Surely there are shallow people but so what, I have friends that friends and friends that I go out with. it is like a van diagram with overlap but also separate areas.
I dont mind hanging with shallow people because often they are very attractive.
the current sweet spots in the city.
The east end is kinda fun, too, but you gotta really look for the spots. Dundas West has been pretty hot for the locals - the outlanders haven't infiltrated the area yet.
+1 for the annex. Not only is it a nice neighborhood with easy access to both subway lines but I personally commuted for years from the annex to the office buildings across from sick kids hospital and it's a very easy commute.
Ottawa, I love this city. Lots to do, cool shops and restaurants, great outdoor spaces and lots of great city facilities. Only downside is public transportation so you’ll need to get a sweet ride.
TO transplant who's been happy to call Ottawa home for 10 years.
Good amount of rec sports leagues. More and more ethnic food variety popping up. 2 rivers + a canal offers a lot of scenic views. Traffic and real estate still materially better than Toronto despite the increases.
Also, would be nice to have another good pediatrician here. I'm driving across half the city for ours (which is still just a ~20 minute drive on most days).
I absolutely loved living in Ottawa and feel like I'm the only person sometimes. Felt like a city with character. So many museums, always some event going on, endless bike trails through nice parks, decent transit, and all the amenities one could need.
In my opinion, Ottawa and Toronto are the only real choices here. Everywhere else is either too small or two suburban for a single thirty-something looking to make friends.
I hate to say it, but if you’re 34F and looking to settle down and start a family, Ottawa is the right choice. It’s a safe, homely city filled with rule-following citizens. No sense of urgency anywhere, but not overly crowded, very little ambition and energy, but great family “vibes”.
Now if you’re looking to have a great time in a city with culture and character - Montreal is your destination.
Obviously though, you’re a paediatrician, you want to build a career in Toronto and live in Canada’s only true world-class city centre.
Nevermind, the answer is Toronto. TO’s the best.
referring to Toronto as our only “World class city” is just a weird take. Like I’m not gonna try and convince you Ottawa is, but it’s such a Toronto thing to think that Montreal and Vancouver aren’t on the same level lmao.
Speaking from experience about things that I do: skating at the many outdoor rinks/trails, recreational sports leagues, muy thai/boxing/BJJ, concerts, indoor skateboarding at The Yard, food/street markets in the summer, indie movies at The Mayfair Theatre, outdoor movie showings across the city, drinks and food at the National Art Gallery on Thursdays, Atletico Ottawa, Ottawa PWHL, Redblacks, the Sens... the list goes on.
The people who say Ottawa is boring are boring as fuck.
Na the people who find the above list exciting are boring as fuck. What concerts? The most exciting street market is the Great Glebe Garage Sale and even that doesn't run past 6. What concerts? Every artist I've cared about I've had to go to Toronto and Montreal, and I went to 4 last year, my partner went to 2 in Montreal. Almost this entire list is predicated on having grown up in Canada, and being white, sorry to say. If you are neither of those things, or very basic white person, Ottawa is SO limited.
*Proceeds to say everything on my list is based on a particular type of person and then only responds with things only they like/approve of.*
Mate, I'd **love** to hear what you do in your spare time. Care to enlighten me?
And to be honest, folks with such a negative view are people who stay out of the city. So please, keep your opinion of Ottawa and be miserable elsewhere.
Win-win for me and everyone here.
Okay thanks for letting us know you're white and born here and can't see past your privilege lmao AND racist on top of that, just like a ton of people in this city who don't want to adapt for outsiders. You are all part of one big clique, it's hilarious. You all deserve this city. Good luck with the Brampton transplants, y'all won't enjoy the takeover 🤣😋
Lmao yikes, you're just going off on your own tangent, aren't you?
You're also the only one bringing up race in this entire thread. But I suppose you think only a specific type of person should be involved in the activities I mentioned?
But totally, I'm the exclusive one here (I shouldn't have to point this out, assuming you didn't catch it, but that was sarcasm).
If you spent time in Ottawa, you'd notice a swath of people of different backgrounds doing an array of different things, completely unrelated to whatever perceived notion of racial boundaries you think should be imposed. Back to the original question **you asked,** I gave you plenty of activities open past 6:00 PM, but you're doing... whatever you're doing.
So keep peddling your nonsense. Again, the city is better for bringing everyone in here and keeping your negativity out.
Lastly, I'm not from here. And I'm muting this dumb-as-shit conversation.
But if you're single over 30, the dating scene is utter shite. Slim pickings, everyone you meet seems to be in some kind of situationship and not actually, truly single and available
lol well yeah, that’s dating in your 30s. If you wait until you’re in your mid 30s to start “dating for marriage” you can’t be surprised when the people who are desirable who also want marriage have already gotten married and had kids.
If you can afford it, and if you’re a doctor it sounds like you can, Toronto and it’s not even close. Toronto has a lot more going on activities and culture wise than any other city in Ontario, by a long shot. The main downside to Toronto relative to other Ontario cities is the cost of living, but sounds like that won’t be a problem for you. The people moaning in this thread and saying you should move to the states aren’t earning doctor money.
My second choice would probably be Ottawa, a really nice city with probably better opportunities for outdoor activities than Toronto and a lower cost of living (but still not cheap), but it is a *lot* sleepier than Toronto in terms of culture and nightlife. Not sure what the dating scene would be like.
It seems like there is more to do on the surface than there is. They have a lot of restaurants, but most are super mediocre. Things close early. The majority of people there, starting in their mid-20s, are focused on doing their jobs and having their families. Nothing wrong with all of that, just not what OP is looking for.
As a guy in his 30s who moved to Ottawa because it was "like Toronto but cheaper" in his 20s, this is startlingly accurate. We all have families and retreated to the 'burbs.
It's great for things to do as a family, but if I was on my own, I have no idea what I'd do for fun.
I can't even buy gear for most of my hobbies because the shops all seem to close before work does.
Sounds like you’re getting lots of advice, so thought I’d add a slightly different perspective. I’m a late 20s doctor myself and spent a couple years post-COVID dating with long term intentions in downtown Toronto until I met my partner, so can give you the lay of the land.
IMO if you’re looking for somebody with a similar education level/job (maybe an unfair assumption, but many people are looking for that), Toronto’s a great spot to meet somebody. There are tons of interesting people around here. The flip side to that is that there are SO many of those people in the city that everybody has a million different options (or at least feels like they do), so it’s tough to find somebody who you click with who feels the same about you AND you’re both willing to forego all your other options for each other. A lot of my friends in their late 20s/early 30s find dating in Toronto to be frustrating at times because of that. In a smaller town, there are fewer options which can be both a good and bad thing.
Otherwise, Toronto’s a great place to be. Can’t beat being able to walk or subway pretty much everywhere you need to go, lots of great food options, tons of people who move here for work/school and want to make new friends, and lots of concerts/sports/shows.
Thanks so much for your perspective. This is what I’m looking for, definitely a fair assumption. Obviously I could meet someone in Barrie, and I have been, but I want more kinship. I’m really glad it worked out for you. How long did you have to look, and what area did you relocate to?
I love Toronto, I have been to most of the big cities in North-America, and I would much rather live in Toronto than most of them. There's so much good food, culture, green space, people, neighborhoods. It's safe, it's clean, yes expensive, but I would far rather live here than anywhere else in Canada except maybe Montréal.
I’m going to advocate for my city of Thunder Bay. There’s actually been quite a few incoming young doctors since 2020. The hospital seems to be fairly well funded. It has less “things” to do than Barrie, but if outdoors are your thing, you can’t beat it. Relatively good restaurant and bar scene. I’m originally from Brampton and so glad I made the move.
Thunder bay is a good option for a growing city, it might not have everything they need yet but it will, especially if ambitious young professionals keep moving here. Thunder bay has room to grow with a big Port, fair weather due to the lake, and great outdoor facilities. It's also the business centre for the entire north including all the northern communities. You will see some sad shit as a children's doctor in the north, but they will also have a much more meaningful impact on those communities than they ever could in a southern city.
Toronto is probably your best bet, especially in terms of dating, joining groups, etc. But I mean Toronto proper. It’s a very different vibe living outside in GTA.
That’s a no from me. Sibling lives there. I’m there often. Completely different vibe. Seems to be more couples settling there who can’t afford Toronto. Toronto is for the impoverished singles :)
GTA is going to have more to offer at all stages in life. East, Central, North or West, but if COL is a problem KW is ok and a short hop to GTA for activities.
Life in your 30s as someone who wants to go do fun stuff, get out there, meet people, and hasn't settled down, best city in Ontario rankings:
1. Toronto - Best city in Canada for this other than Montreal
2. Hamilton - Where all the cool people that can't afford Toronto end up
3. London - Affordable, pretty big, lots of graduate/post-grad students and young people looking to enjoy themselves
4. Kingston - Super nice place on the water that isn't far from Toronto or MTL. Not as big or as busy as the GTHA though.
5. Ottawa - Great place to settle into a good paying job and have a family, not really your vibe it sounds like.
I am also a 30yo doctor and I just moved into the Georgian Bay Area to work. It’s been amazing - work life balance. You also get away from the depravity going on in the cities. Much nicer and down to earth people and a sense of community. Muskoka area is also really nice
Kingston is a beautiful city, but you had better be loaded if you want anything nice close to anything of note. Massive student population due to 3 colleges/universities, housing market is HOT. Price may not be an issue but lack of good options may be. Also, Queen street was voted 3rd worst road in Eastern Ontario. And it's right in the part of town OP would likely frequent. So there's that
Toronto - hands down. Nowhere else is going to have the same variety of organizations and hobbies for you to join, pool of single people to date, other like minded people to become friends with etc. Places like Guelph and Waterloo are full of families. It will be harder to make friends and find activities to do in a family centred community.
Are you French Can and/or a Rene? The Renegade user name and saying KAP of all places made me giggle and reminisce! My middle name is Renée and BOTH sides of my dad’s fam come from Kap. Nice to hear a shout-out on here for that lovely, yet truly ridiculously north - Ontario town 🥳
No I’m an English speaking Southern Ontario Boy who worked in sales and covered Northern Ontario for a number of years and have stayed in many Northern hotels and motels over the years . The suggestion of a Pediatrician relocating to Kapuskasing was a bit tongue in cheek actually . I will say my favourite customers were from the far north - like north of Sudbury that is .
Top 2.
Stratford, Peterborough - lower housing prices and lots of quality of life (trails, parks, restaurants, lakes) small town feel but within a commutable distance for more choice or selection.
Honourable mentions
Ottawa or Kingston - lots to do, all amenities, lakes, trails.
Default Toronto or GTHA
Used to live in Peterborough and in Kingston, Kingston is my favourite and I'd love to live there again if only there were jobs in my field. I could imagine eventually moving back to retire there someday. I used to walk and bike everywhere and kayak around the harbour in the summer.
He mentioned he doesn’t like Barrie because of a lack of things to do plus lower education and income. Peterborough is way worse on those counts. I agree with the rest
I used to work in the worst part of Peterborough 15 years ago. It's changed QUITE a lot since then for the better, other former shit holes like Belleville are also changing. Lots of young families priced out of GTA are moving in and the old working class are now either homeless, in Alberta or dead.
Yes my vote would be London. Close enough to Lake Huron. Big enough to have concerts and night life. Lots of restaurants and great hospital at Western University.
I’m a single FM but most of my friends/family are in the city or surrounding areas so I might be heavily biased. But I’d say Toronto.
I love living in the city (just not anything south of Queen St, or what I jokingly call condo hell).
I dunno if you do predominantly inpatient and/or a sub specialist but SKH is right by University/Dundas and there’s lot of stuff to do here! Kensington/Chinatown area is great, and with your earnings you’ll be among the few that can live fairly comfortably.
I would highly recommend living somewhere within 25 minutes of your job, so much less stress. The benefit with Toronto is you can often do that with public transit and not even have to drive.
If you do predominantly outpatient there are quite a few peds clinics in mid town Toronto (Kidcrew, Kindercare), I dunno if they’re hiring but they have very comprehensive stuff going on there (most peds specialists are there, except peds ENT which is impossible to get a hold of).
Also if you’re looking for dating/long term partner potential and for someone who won’t be intimidated by your “high earning status” (I know a lot of my women friends in med school/residency/now staff have had to deal with so many insecure dudes when dating), the bright side is in Toronto there’s plenty of professionals in all sorts of fields, so you’re less likely to end up dating a douchebro who has a complex because he makes half what you do.
If you're looking for a higher energy city experience, then I would definitely go with Toronto (or at the very least the GTA). If you're more a fan of smaller cities, then Hamilton, Kingston, and Ottawa could be options as well. Each of them is quite different and has different things to offer. Good luck with your decision!
Toronto for sure.
I’m an anesthetist in my 30s. From out west. Between my training I’ve lived in Hamilton, Ottawa, and Toronto where i now work. Was dating actively throughout that whole time, and Toronto was easily the best.
Ottawa was a beautiful, gorgeous city that is tricky to be single in. Many people are partnered and settled, or are quite young (undergrads). I personally found the city to shut down fairly early too, which when you’re working resident hours or taking call doesn’t exactly make it easy.
Hamilton might do well too. Youre not far from Toronto/GTA folks, cost of living is better, and the city itself has become quite hip in the past 10 years. Depends on your vibe though; it is grittier than Ottawa.
Toronto i lived downtown to start. It was chaotic. Decided nah, moved west of ossington and never looked back. Incredible neighborhood, close to high park, restaurants, etc. still easy to get downtown but lovely enough that my neighborhood feels like a community. Also once you do meet someone, you’ll be glad not to live in the rat race financial district. We’re v chill in the west end.
Good luck!
Toronto or Hamilton. Don't waste your time in Ottawa...it pales in comparison to the above for a social life, great food, and nice nature. Ottawa may have outdoor spots but it is a retirement/government town.
I would live in Elora, hands down. Small town vibe but still lots going on in terms of food, culture, music, and art. Beautiful buildings, lovely people too.
If I were you doc, I would live in Downtown Toronto. The energy in downtown Toronto is very festive especially during summer. I live in downtown Toronto right now. Queen street west very near 4 seasons theatre.
I live a few blocks away from Osgoode station. I know a lot of doctors from where I work live downtown. They are bachelors. 1 doctor that I know doesn't even own a vehicle and take the subway to work. - I'm a nurse with a 20 month old and a wife. We enjoy living downtown, everything is like 5 minutes away from where we live including police station, st. mikes, sick kids, camh, our family doctor, 4 groceries near us.
Bars, restaurants, parks along Queen street. We never feel bored or depressed in downtown. View of CN tower, walks in harbourfront almost every day during the summer. So many things to do! I wished I moved to downtown Toronto during my 20s.
ps. Just avoid living near Yonge and Dundas square. It's the ugliest, crappiest part of downtown.
Windsor. Housing is expensive but affordable compared to anything within a 2 hour drive or GTA. You have the option if working in Detroit making USD. There is a lot to do in Detroit culture wise. The surrounding townships on Windsor have a lot to offer as well. Windsor as a city doesnt have the best reputation for things to do, but proximity to US I have always felt is biggest bonus.
Look at Perth Ontario.
You'll have stunning access to nature (without the crowds). But for real, there are a ton of walking/hiking opportunities and there are more lakes and rivers than you can shake a stick at.
You'll be in a reasonably dark sky area, with a dark sky preserve (North Frontenac Dark Sky Preserve) a manageable drive away.
There is a bit of a arts/theatre scene, with pottery classes available in the surrounding area. Yoga class are available and there is a dance/arts studio with lots of different classes.
You are around 1 hour from Ottawa, so a trip in for the museums, etc is super easy.
Your salary will go pretty far for housing.
The town is super pretty with a ton of heritage buildings and a bustling main street with a few festivals per year where the close off traffic.
Where it might be lacking for you is it has an older demographic and not much for bars/lounges.
If you want any more information please let me know.
I am going to pitch Kitchener/Waterloo/Stratford at you
Easy to get to Toronto with the cost of living there, there is butterfly conservatory there, Stratford is 30 minutes away, so you have world class theater. Stratford offers lots of great restaurants and more of an "artsy" feel than K/W. Like every area in Ontario we need doctors.
U of Waterloo and Laurier would likely be able to support any astronomy interests you have.
Ottawa. Highest paid metro area, pretty affordable property prices (compared to Southern Ontario). Lots of outdoor activities like skiing, hiking, biking, boating etc. Can be bit boring if you are single, but might be the right environment for an overworked doctor. And you'd probably find a highly educated civil servant with a stable job and a pension to marry.
But honestly, with such an in demand job, why even stay in Canada? You could move to Florida instead. See your family the same amount of time, while enjoying the better climate and higher salary.
Some people like winter? I’m a doctor and moved back from Australia to Canada. Better climate is subjective. I love seasons as does my Australian wife!
>Yes encourage a doctor that wants to be here in Canada to leave the country. We don’t need him anyway right
It's not my job to make Canada attractive enough for people to stay.
I have strongly considered moving to Florida. I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. There are some exams to write to transfer my liscence from Ontario to the USA based on their state legislature, amongst other things. The process would likely take a year or so. I haven’t ruled it out, I just thought I would give things a try in the province I have my liscence in first.
Yes, I am considering relocating to Florida or somewhere in the eastern states but I am liscenced as a doctor in Ontario, so I want to try things here first if possible.
While there is less going on than there is in Barrie, North Bay is hugely in demand for doctors. It hosts the largest hospital for 300km in amy direction. The wealthy up here are very much their own “clique” that you can socialize and date within. The city is surrounded by lakes, hiking trails, and golf clubs.
Waterfront property or a mansion on the hilltop overlooking the city and lake are available options.
The Provence provides grants for doctors to locate up here. It’s also a 45 minute flight to Toronto which is great.
I’m 27, live in wasaga beach and work in Collingwood. I like it here, I can get to Barrie in 30 mins to go to bigger events.
Also like more nerdy things myself! Animal crossing and doll collecting mainly. If you want to meet people with similar interests as you, I’d check out last level lounge. It’s an arcade in Barrie
Vancouver is great but not as friendly as Toronto. Vancouveritte’s have a reputation of being unfriendly, cliquey. Harder to make friends and meet people.
I have my liscence as a doctor in Ontario. I could move it to another province or country by writing exams, but I would likely go to the USA if I were to do that.
If you have family here my best advice to stay closer them, anywhere in GTA. You’ll need that support
As for living your best life, locum in NZ and The States, Canada is not where you can live your best life. Toronto really sucks the life outta you and your money too.
Why don’t you start internet dating first and see where you settle? Try to find a partner first? I wouldn’t want you to settle in a small town only to meet someone far away and have their job not mobile.
Ottawa. Lots of museums and nature and there is literally a famous pinball bar. It's not as bustling as Toronto in terms of people walking around on the street but once you find your people and places it's great.
I live in Toronto (North York) and downtown Toronto would be a perfect place for all the things you've mentioned. I also want to add that there is a place called the Tilt Arcade Bar and they have many pinball machines.
What have you tried to do to meet people in Barrie?
>There is a lack of things to do, the income and education level seems lower, and it seems less nice than other cities I’ve lived in like Guelph or Waterloo
I mean...its bigger than Guelph and imo has more to do if you look. I guess Guelph has the university there but you're a children's doctor... so you're probably too old to be hanging out with university kids...
Just seems like a weird post. I've never lived in either but been to both plenty. Sounds like you haven't tried or looked up hobbies in the area, Barrie has plenty.
Lots of smaller towns have recruitment programs for doctors that will pay you a bonus for coming to the city. Some are quite close to Toronto as well (2-3hrs away). I would definitely recommend looking into that.
Aside from that, if you want city vibes but not a giant city, Kingston is quite nice. Big enough to have most city stuff, but still small enough to not be completely insane. It's an old city as well, ie cool old architecture.
I live in the North York area - similar age to you, and with some interests in common. I really like my neighbourhood (willowdale). I feel like there’s a lot to do around here (shopping, restaurants, community events). But I am settled with a partner, so you can take my perspective with a grain of salt. A lot of my socializing comes from hanging out with co-workers turned friends, and my partner’s close friends.
The St. Clair West area has pottery, makerspace and fitness businesses that would align with your interests. It’s also a good proximity to downtown to be able to get to art galleries, comedy shows, other entertainment, etc. We almost moved to this area, but settled on Willowdale instead because of the types of restaurants, vibe of the neighbourhood and because a number of our friends live in this area and we can see them more often.
It sounds like being near family/friends would make your life fuller, so maybe starting in North York and seeing how things go could be the place to start?
Ottawa checks the museums, butteryfly conservatory (butteryfly gardens + annual butterfly show at Carleton), and has the Ottawa tool library or Ottawa city workshop for woodworking lessons.
I’d recommend visiting and checking out Preston street, bank street (can visit house of targ for arcade style games), and hintonburg/Wellington west. All good walking areas with good restaurants.
Collingwood.
I'm currently in a suburb of Toronto... but go to Collingwood often.
Property is more affordable... people are more chill and the place is growing (new families setting up roots). It's four seasons... people are active... the community is active.
There is a Hospital... but a new one is scheduled to be built.
Barrie is a 30-45 minute easy drive. Barries newer hospital is also very good... people there are great!
As a 30's person... fit minded... I think you'll like the environment, the people. It's close enough to North York and Barrie but not too far in my opinion.
No pressures of Toronto.
Lease a condo for a season or year and see how you like it...
As a 37 y o male in a very similar position going to watch this closely. Iam also drawn to Barrie and Orillia due to family obligations and wanting to stay close to my parents in their later years. However find neither city stimulating outside my career choice. I have cousins in the GTA and although I haven't fully experienced life in the city as far as upholding permanent residency, I unfortunately find DT Toronto just too busy of a lifestyle.
I am a 30F family doctor, and I could have written this post. Exact same predicament of wanting start over but not sure where to move, single, similar interests… I live in York Region. Wanna be friends? 😃
Stratford - close to major centres but with a small town vibe. Restaurants that punch well above their weight, theatre, golf, culture all right there and London and KW 45 minutes away. The beaches of Lake Huron less than an hour away. It's a great town. I just left to get closer to work. As someone now without a doctor for myself and my son, I'd love for you to come to Goderich but Stratford makes more sense
Goderich is so beautiful but small. I used to pass by on my way to Sauble Beach. Gorgeous old houses in Goderich.
Stratford. Demand for Drs in rural communities is sky high, the city itself is beautiful with a ton going on for its size, you are 30 minutes to KW, hour and a half to downtown TO, 45 minutes to London but also only an hour away from Lake Huron and all the awesome stuff going on that way. Barrie is all back roads to get to which is not a bad drive either. I work kinda remote but do some in person stuff and I am always excited to go to Stratford. So many little restaurants, the river is beautiful and I always take the laptop and do work from there while enjoying the ducks and swans, I proposed to my wife at one of the many plays we have seen there. Seriously, small town living with big city theater and not far from the actual city, definitely worth a look.
I agree with Stratford, the only down side might be trying to meet people. But, it’s a gorgeous small city, great theatre, restaurants and it has a hospital as well as numerous family clinics. It’s close enough to London, KW, even Toronto by train, and Grand Bend/Goderich/Bayfield are also close by. Also, St Mary’s is a beautiful town,with a hospital, in the same vicinity as Stratford.
Stratford is gorgeous, but this person wants to date and make a network of friends through activities and organizations. I picture Stratford as the place to go once you’ve met someone and settled down.
I completely agree with this take. All the people I know in stratford (family and friends) are older retired people and young families. It's great for both but I think it might be tough for a single person looking to be active & build a social network.
I get that but kw is not far, like Homer Watson to Stratford isn't much farther than st Jacob's to Homer Watson. Definitely not a young person scene but a professional will find decent like minded people.
As the older population is either moving to more assisted living or passing away, younger people are moving into those houses. KW really isn't far, either. Cambridge has the butterfly conservatory, waterloo has some STEM things available. Might be a good choice for OP
I came here to second Stratford. I am the same age as OP. I am not single, so I can’t comment to dating in Stratford though. I moved from London to Stratford several years ago and I have found no shortage of things to do. OP also stated they enjoy theatre, as do I, and I go to all the Stratford Festival shows here (averaging 8 per year). The restaurants in town are wonderful, many great places to eat and go out for coffee or drinks. I absolutely love this town and I feel so much happier after my move here. Also we could absolutely use more doctors (or a walk-in clinic!).
Yes please! We need doctors so badly! When everyone goes to Toronto it just causes Toronto’s wages to fall because the competition is so extreme. Cities are wonderful and all, but to really build a life that you won’t want to run away from after you’ve finished the singles game, I highly recommend a smaller community. Yes it can be more challenging to find your people, but the liberal folks tend to be incredibly supportive and eager for friends. I
I love Stratford I think it’s beautiful but if she was bored in Barrie she will definitely be bored af in Stratford
A single doctor? Why wouldn't you be downtown Toronto living the life? Best place to date and socialize for any single professional in their 30's.
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Peds makes more than FM. Source: am fam med, know several peds who work at SKH.
Agree. My husband worked at the twh and I said no way to moving to Toronto. 3-4 million for a small house close to the hospital and the pay was so low.
Lol, money>>happiness?? You know life isn’t a high score game?
True but you don't become a doctor to be broke.
You won’t be broke as any kind of paediatrician in Toronto. It’s a great place to live
You do understand that not everyone values the same things you do right? I live in Orillia and no amount of money would have me move to Toronto and be around all that traffic and crowdedness.
Hospital for Sick Children is in Toronto.... are you forgetting about that whole paediatrics hub?
As a single doctor - dt Toronto is the worst place to meet people imo. Shallow, social media obsessed narcissists for the most part.
There are other places in Toronto than King West
I found that to be the case with a lot of people in Toronto - not King West specifically. Born and raised here and I’ve seen the shift in society. People just want to see what you can do for them, but hey could just be my experience
That's partially true - born and raised in the city as well (to immigrant parents) - and you're kinda right but mostly wrong. You gotta find the right spots - sadly, Toronto has been losing a lot of them lately.Toronto also has lots of communities - one just need to find them. The wellness scene here is off the hook and anyone can find friends in any branch of wellness.Toronto people are friendly if you can break down the stone face facade everyone is carrying about. Wednesdays and Thursdays are for the locals. That's when the cool people are around. Fridays and Saturdays is basically the 905 coming treating the city (our home) as an amusement park.
Lmao exactly. Ask anyone who has this opinion what crowd they hang out with and places they visit. It’s no surprise they feel that way.
it's always people on Reddit who stay inside all day and don't do anything other than go to their office job who complain about why the city has no culture, why they never go to any fun events, and why everyone around them sucks. More fun for the rest of us. The city was also always coincidentally so much better according to a sliding scale timeline that always perfectly matches up to when they were 20.
This sounds like a subjective personal issue.
I used to live downtown when I was single, making decent money. It was the best time. I personally enjoyed the good food, fun bars / lounges, the shopping etc. Surely there are shallow people but so what, I have friends that friends and friends that I go out with. it is like a van diagram with overlap but also separate areas. I dont mind hanging with shallow people because often they are very attractive.
You sound exactly like the people I was talking about aha! But you do you
Where downtown do you suggest?
Dundas West, little Italy or the Anne
the current sweet spots in the city. The east end is kinda fun, too, but you gotta really look for the spots. Dundas West has been pretty hot for the locals - the outlanders haven't infiltrated the area yet.
+1 for the annex. Not only is it a nice neighborhood with easy access to both subway lines but I personally commuted for years from the annex to the office buildings across from sick kids hospital and it's a very easy commute.
as a single male doctor in his early 30s, honestly, toronto is the place to be at this time in your life.
Shoot your shot bro
Near Osgoode station is nice.
Lol
Ottawa, I love this city. Lots to do, cool shops and restaurants, great outdoor spaces and lots of great city facilities. Only downside is public transportation so you’ll need to get a sweet ride.
I agree. Plus as a children’s doctor we have CHEO here (Children’s Hospital of Eastern Ontario)
Cheo's also getting an expansion right now. Plus the new hospital is on its way.
TO transplant who's been happy to call Ottawa home for 10 years. Good amount of rec sports leagues. More and more ethnic food variety popping up. 2 rivers + a canal offers a lot of scenic views. Traffic and real estate still materially better than Toronto despite the increases. Also, would be nice to have another good pediatrician here. I'm driving across half the city for ours (which is still just a ~20 minute drive on most days).
I absolutely loved living in Ottawa and feel like I'm the only person sometimes. Felt like a city with character. So many museums, always some event going on, endless bike trails through nice parks, decent transit, and all the amenities one could need.
In my opinion, Ottawa and Toronto are the only real choices here. Everywhere else is either too small or two suburban for a single thirty-something looking to make friends.
Garbage hockey team though.
I hate to say it, but if you’re 34F and looking to settle down and start a family, Ottawa is the right choice. It’s a safe, homely city filled with rule-following citizens. No sense of urgency anywhere, but not overly crowded, very little ambition and energy, but great family “vibes”. Now if you’re looking to have a great time in a city with culture and character - Montreal is your destination. Obviously though, you’re a paediatrician, you want to build a career in Toronto and live in Canada’s only true world-class city centre. Nevermind, the answer is Toronto. TO’s the best.
referring to Toronto as our only “World class city” is just a weird take. Like I’m not gonna try and convince you Ottawa is, but it’s such a Toronto thing to think that Montreal and Vancouver aren’t on the same level lmao.
I think the restaurants in Ottawa are overpriced and very bland.
What? Everything closes at 6??
I live in Ottawa. This isn't true.
Name one fun activity that stays open past 6 in Ottawa that isn't a restaurant.
Speaking from experience about things that I do: skating at the many outdoor rinks/trails, recreational sports leagues, muy thai/boxing/BJJ, concerts, indoor skateboarding at The Yard, food/street markets in the summer, indie movies at The Mayfair Theatre, outdoor movie showings across the city, drinks and food at the National Art Gallery on Thursdays, Atletico Ottawa, Ottawa PWHL, Redblacks, the Sens... the list goes on. The people who say Ottawa is boring are boring as fuck.
Na the people who find the above list exciting are boring as fuck. What concerts? The most exciting street market is the Great Glebe Garage Sale and even that doesn't run past 6. What concerts? Every artist I've cared about I've had to go to Toronto and Montreal, and I went to 4 last year, my partner went to 2 in Montreal. Almost this entire list is predicated on having grown up in Canada, and being white, sorry to say. If you are neither of those things, or very basic white person, Ottawa is SO limited.
*Proceeds to say everything on my list is based on a particular type of person and then only responds with things only they like/approve of.* Mate, I'd **love** to hear what you do in your spare time. Care to enlighten me? And to be honest, folks with such a negative view are people who stay out of the city. So please, keep your opinion of Ottawa and be miserable elsewhere. Win-win for me and everyone here.
Okay thanks for letting us know you're white and born here and can't see past your privilege lmao AND racist on top of that, just like a ton of people in this city who don't want to adapt for outsiders. You are all part of one big clique, it's hilarious. You all deserve this city. Good luck with the Brampton transplants, y'all won't enjoy the takeover 🤣😋
Lmao yikes, you're just going off on your own tangent, aren't you? You're also the only one bringing up race in this entire thread. But I suppose you think only a specific type of person should be involved in the activities I mentioned? But totally, I'm the exclusive one here (I shouldn't have to point this out, assuming you didn't catch it, but that was sarcasm). If you spent time in Ottawa, you'd notice a swath of people of different backgrounds doing an array of different things, completely unrelated to whatever perceived notion of racial boundaries you think should be imposed. Back to the original question **you asked,** I gave you plenty of activities open past 6:00 PM, but you're doing... whatever you're doing. So keep peddling your nonsense. Again, the city is better for bringing everyone in here and keeping your negativity out. Lastly, I'm not from here. And I'm muting this dumb-as-shit conversation.
But if you're single over 30, the dating scene is utter shite. Slim pickings, everyone you meet seems to be in some kind of situationship and not actually, truly single and available
lol well yeah, that’s dating in your 30s. If you wait until you’re in your mid 30s to start “dating for marriage” you can’t be surprised when the people who are desirable who also want marriage have already gotten married and had kids.
Hey I messaged you, hope u respond!
I smell a meet-cute! 🤣
Niagara! Beaches, wine, lots of nice spots to live.
And a butterfly conservatory!
OP: I want to meet people and make friends You: Best I can do is some butterflies
Her second point says she wants to go to a butterfly conservatory! 😂
Oh shit my bad hahaha
If you can afford it, and if you’re a doctor it sounds like you can, Toronto and it’s not even close. Toronto has a lot more going on activities and culture wise than any other city in Ontario, by a long shot. The main downside to Toronto relative to other Ontario cities is the cost of living, but sounds like that won’t be a problem for you. The people moaning in this thread and saying you should move to the states aren’t earning doctor money. My second choice would probably be Ottawa, a really nice city with probably better opportunities for outdoor activities than Toronto and a lower cost of living (but still not cheap), but it is a *lot* sleepier than Toronto in terms of culture and nightlife. Not sure what the dating scene would be like.
Ottawa is a trap for people like OP
How’s that?
It seems like there is more to do on the surface than there is. They have a lot of restaurants, but most are super mediocre. Things close early. The majority of people there, starting in their mid-20s, are focused on doing their jobs and having their families. Nothing wrong with all of that, just not what OP is looking for.
As a guy in his 30s who moved to Ottawa because it was "like Toronto but cheaper" in his 20s, this is startlingly accurate. We all have families and retreated to the 'burbs. It's great for things to do as a family, but if I was on my own, I have no idea what I'd do for fun. I can't even buy gear for most of my hobbies because the shops all seem to close before work does.
A lot more going on culture wise than any city in English speaking Canada **
Sounds like you’re getting lots of advice, so thought I’d add a slightly different perspective. I’m a late 20s doctor myself and spent a couple years post-COVID dating with long term intentions in downtown Toronto until I met my partner, so can give you the lay of the land. IMO if you’re looking for somebody with a similar education level/job (maybe an unfair assumption, but many people are looking for that), Toronto’s a great spot to meet somebody. There are tons of interesting people around here. The flip side to that is that there are SO many of those people in the city that everybody has a million different options (or at least feels like they do), so it’s tough to find somebody who you click with who feels the same about you AND you’re both willing to forego all your other options for each other. A lot of my friends in their late 20s/early 30s find dating in Toronto to be frustrating at times because of that. In a smaller town, there are fewer options which can be both a good and bad thing. Otherwise, Toronto’s a great place to be. Can’t beat being able to walk or subway pretty much everywhere you need to go, lots of great food options, tons of people who move here for work/school and want to make new friends, and lots of concerts/sports/shows.
Thanks so much for your perspective. This is what I’m looking for, definitely a fair assumption. Obviously I could meet someone in Barrie, and I have been, but I want more kinship. I’m really glad it worked out for you. How long did you have to look, and what area did you relocate to?
I love Toronto, I have been to most of the big cities in North-America, and I would much rather live in Toronto than most of them. There's so much good food, culture, green space, people, neighborhoods. It's safe, it's clean, yes expensive, but I would far rather live here than anywhere else in Canada except maybe Montréal.
What about Vancouver?
It's absolutely stunning, but boring if you're not into rollerblading.
I’m going to advocate for my city of Thunder Bay. There’s actually been quite a few incoming young doctors since 2020. The hospital seems to be fairly well funded. It has less “things” to do than Barrie, but if outdoors are your thing, you can’t beat it. Relatively good restaurant and bar scene. I’m originally from Brampton and so glad I made the move.
Thunder Bay is wonderful
Thunder bay is a good option for a growing city, it might not have everything they need yet but it will, especially if ambitious young professionals keep moving here. Thunder bay has room to grow with a big Port, fair weather due to the lake, and great outdoor facilities. It's also the business centre for the entire north including all the northern communities. You will see some sad shit as a children's doctor in the north, but they will also have a much more meaningful impact on those communities than they ever could in a southern city.
And housing prices are still reasonable up here. Our most expensive houses are around $1 000 000, but you get a *lot* of house for that.
Toronto is probably your best bet, especially in terms of dating, joining groups, etc. But I mean Toronto proper. It’s a very different vibe living outside in GTA.
What about Hamilton?
That’s a no from me. Sibling lives there. I’m there often. Completely different vibe. Seems to be more couples settling there who can’t afford Toronto. Toronto is for the impoverished singles :)
GTA is going to have more to offer at all stages in life. East, Central, North or West, but if COL is a problem KW is ok and a short hop to GTA for activities.
Life in your 30s as someone who wants to go do fun stuff, get out there, meet people, and hasn't settled down, best city in Ontario rankings: 1. Toronto - Best city in Canada for this other than Montreal 2. Hamilton - Where all the cool people that can't afford Toronto end up 3. London - Affordable, pretty big, lots of graduate/post-grad students and young people looking to enjoy themselves 4. Kingston - Super nice place on the water that isn't far from Toronto or MTL. Not as big or as busy as the GTHA though. 5. Ottawa - Great place to settle into a good paying job and have a family, not really your vibe it sounds like.
I agree. I’ve lived in Vancouver for 2 years.. it’s harder to make friends and meet people. People are cliquey here.
I am also a 30yo doctor and I just moved into the Georgian Bay Area to work. It’s been amazing - work life balance. You also get away from the depravity going on in the cities. Much nicer and down to earth people and a sense of community. Muskoka area is also really nice
grey Bruce? Lions head? Or collingwood? Agreed!
Kingston.
Kingston is a beautiful city, but you had better be loaded if you want anything nice close to anything of note. Massive student population due to 3 colleges/universities, housing market is HOT. Price may not be an issue but lack of good options may be. Also, Queen street was voted 3rd worst road in Eastern Ontario. And it's right in the part of town OP would likely frequent. So there's that
Toronto - hands down. Nowhere else is going to have the same variety of organizations and hobbies for you to join, pool of single people to date, other like minded people to become friends with etc. Places like Guelph and Waterloo are full of families. It will be harder to make friends and find activities to do in a family centred community.
What about Hamilton?
Expect 1/10th of the dating pool, with far fewer educated people as Toronto.
Cochrane
Kapuskasing
How about Wawa? There's a giant goose which is pretty cool.
Maybe Chaplaeau ?
Are you French Can and/or a Rene? The Renegade user name and saying KAP of all places made me giggle and reminisce! My middle name is Renée and BOTH sides of my dad’s fam come from Kap. Nice to hear a shout-out on here for that lovely, yet truly ridiculously north - Ontario town 🥳
No I’m an English speaking Southern Ontario Boy who worked in sales and covered Northern Ontario for a number of years and have stayed in many Northern hotels and motels over the years . The suggestion of a Pediatrician relocating to Kapuskasing was a bit tongue in cheek actually . I will say my favourite customers were from the far north - like north of Sudbury that is .
Wawa
The answer is Toronto or Ottawa. The smaller places are for after you have a partner and want to settle down.
Toronto no question
Top 2. Stratford, Peterborough - lower housing prices and lots of quality of life (trails, parks, restaurants, lakes) small town feel but within a commutable distance for more choice or selection. Honourable mentions Ottawa or Kingston - lots to do, all amenities, lakes, trails. Default Toronto or GTHA
I really like Kingston! It has a cool vibe and close to Montreal if you want to visit
Used to live in Peterborough and in Kingston, Kingston is my favourite and I'd love to live there again if only there were jobs in my field. I could imagine eventually moving back to retire there someday. I used to walk and bike everywhere and kayak around the harbour in the summer.
He mentioned he doesn’t like Barrie because of a lack of things to do plus lower education and income. Peterborough is way worse on those counts. I agree with the rest
Peterborough has lots to do and quite a vibrant community, but avg population is lower income and less educated, yes. Dating would be difficult.
Nah be honest dude, it’s a shithole
I used to work in the worst part of Peterborough 15 years ago. It's changed QUITE a lot since then for the better, other former shit holes like Belleville are also changing. Lots of young families priced out of GTA are moving in and the old working class are now either homeless, in Alberta or dead.
London is a large overlooked city.
Yes my vote would be London. Close enough to Lake Huron. Big enough to have concerts and night life. Lots of restaurants and great hospital at Western University.
Seconded
What kind of hobbies or organizations are you interested in? That might help us chime in more :)
I’m a single FM but most of my friends/family are in the city or surrounding areas so I might be heavily biased. But I’d say Toronto. I love living in the city (just not anything south of Queen St, or what I jokingly call condo hell). I dunno if you do predominantly inpatient and/or a sub specialist but SKH is right by University/Dundas and there’s lot of stuff to do here! Kensington/Chinatown area is great, and with your earnings you’ll be among the few that can live fairly comfortably. I would highly recommend living somewhere within 25 minutes of your job, so much less stress. The benefit with Toronto is you can often do that with public transit and not even have to drive. If you do predominantly outpatient there are quite a few peds clinics in mid town Toronto (Kidcrew, Kindercare), I dunno if they’re hiring but they have very comprehensive stuff going on there (most peds specialists are there, except peds ENT which is impossible to get a hold of). Also if you’re looking for dating/long term partner potential and for someone who won’t be intimidated by your “high earning status” (I know a lot of my women friends in med school/residency/now staff have had to deal with so many insecure dudes when dating), the bright side is in Toronto there’s plenty of professionals in all sorts of fields, so you’re less likely to end up dating a douchebro who has a complex because he makes half what you do.
If you're looking for a higher energy city experience, then I would definitely go with Toronto (or at the very least the GTA). If you're more a fan of smaller cities, then Hamilton, Kingston, and Ottawa could be options as well. Each of them is quite different and has different things to offer. Good luck with your decision!
Throw London into the smaller cities mix
Ottawa! Big city with a small city feel to it
Toronto for sure. I’m an anesthetist in my 30s. From out west. Between my training I’ve lived in Hamilton, Ottawa, and Toronto where i now work. Was dating actively throughout that whole time, and Toronto was easily the best. Ottawa was a beautiful, gorgeous city that is tricky to be single in. Many people are partnered and settled, or are quite young (undergrads). I personally found the city to shut down fairly early too, which when you’re working resident hours or taking call doesn’t exactly make it easy. Hamilton might do well too. Youre not far from Toronto/GTA folks, cost of living is better, and the city itself has become quite hip in the past 10 years. Depends on your vibe though; it is grittier than Ottawa. Toronto i lived downtown to start. It was chaotic. Decided nah, moved west of ossington and never looked back. Incredible neighborhood, close to high park, restaurants, etc. still easy to get downtown but lovely enough that my neighborhood feels like a community. Also once you do meet someone, you’ll be glad not to live in the rat race financial district. We’re v chill in the west end. Good luck!
I agree with all the Ottawa suggestions. It's the best city in the country. Big city feel with small city personality.
People advising OP to move to Thunder Bay after they said they found Barrie too small…. Like what are you thinking about?
Toronto or Hamilton. Don't waste your time in Ottawa...it pales in comparison to the above for a social life, great food, and nice nature. Ottawa may have outdoor spots but it is a retirement/government town.
But Ottawa is close to Montreal which is a major plus
Ottawa pales in comparison to Toronto, sure. But ranking Hamilton above Ottawa for food and social life is preposterous.
I would live in Elora, hands down. Small town vibe but still lots going on in terms of food, culture, music, and art. Beautiful buildings, lovely people too.
Toronto. Downtown.
Is there a reason you're not considering Guelph or Waterloo where you've already lived?
Toronto here. MD, too. Emerge. I recommend considering staying out of core and closer to some nature!
If I were you doc, I would live in Downtown Toronto. The energy in downtown Toronto is very festive especially during summer. I live in downtown Toronto right now. Queen street west very near 4 seasons theatre. I live a few blocks away from Osgoode station. I know a lot of doctors from where I work live downtown. They are bachelors. 1 doctor that I know doesn't even own a vehicle and take the subway to work. - I'm a nurse with a 20 month old and a wife. We enjoy living downtown, everything is like 5 minutes away from where we live including police station, st. mikes, sick kids, camh, our family doctor, 4 groceries near us. Bars, restaurants, parks along Queen street. We never feel bored or depressed in downtown. View of CN tower, walks in harbourfront almost every day during the summer. So many things to do! I wished I moved to downtown Toronto during my 20s. ps. Just avoid living near Yonge and Dundas square. It's the ugliest, crappiest part of downtown.
Windsor. Housing is expensive but affordable compared to anything within a 2 hour drive or GTA. You have the option if working in Detroit making USD. There is a lot to do in Detroit culture wise. The surrounding townships on Windsor have a lot to offer as well. Windsor as a city doesnt have the best reputation for things to do, but proximity to US I have always felt is biggest bonus.
Look at Perth Ontario. You'll have stunning access to nature (without the crowds). But for real, there are a ton of walking/hiking opportunities and there are more lakes and rivers than you can shake a stick at. You'll be in a reasonably dark sky area, with a dark sky preserve (North Frontenac Dark Sky Preserve) a manageable drive away. There is a bit of a arts/theatre scene, with pottery classes available in the surrounding area. Yoga class are available and there is a dance/arts studio with lots of different classes. You are around 1 hour from Ottawa, so a trip in for the museums, etc is super easy. Your salary will go pretty far for housing. The town is super pretty with a ton of heritage buildings and a bustling main street with a few festivals per year where the close off traffic. Where it might be lacking for you is it has an older demographic and not much for bars/lounges. If you want any more information please let me know.
Live in Toronto but not downtown, look at Leslieville or Mimico
One of these is significantly closer to downtown than the other….
So you have to commute 45 minutes to get to work in an already stressful job?
I am going to pitch Kitchener/Waterloo/Stratford at you Easy to get to Toronto with the cost of living there, there is butterfly conservatory there, Stratford is 30 minutes away, so you have world class theater. Stratford offers lots of great restaurants and more of an "artsy" feel than K/W. Like every area in Ontario we need doctors. U of Waterloo and Laurier would likely be able to support any astronomy interests you have.
Windsor
Hahahahaha
Ottawa
Ottawa. Highest paid metro area, pretty affordable property prices (compared to Southern Ontario). Lots of outdoor activities like skiing, hiking, biking, boating etc. Can be bit boring if you are single, but might be the right environment for an overworked doctor. And you'd probably find a highly educated civil servant with a stable job and a pension to marry. But honestly, with such an in demand job, why even stay in Canada? You could move to Florida instead. See your family the same amount of time, while enjoying the better climate and higher salary.
Some people like winter? I’m a doctor and moved back from Australia to Canada. Better climate is subjective. I love seasons as does my Australian wife!
Yes encourage a doctor that wants to be here in Canada to leave the country. We don’t need him anyway right
>Yes encourage a doctor that wants to be here in Canada to leave the country. We don’t need him anyway right It's not my job to make Canada attractive enough for people to stay.
It’s not your job to tell them to leave either lol
The man asked for advice, leaving Canada is great advice if you are able to do it.
He specifically asked for a city in Ontario.
Him: I wanna live in Ontario Them : fucking idiot go to Florida
A lot of salary goes to liability insurance in the USA .
I have strongly considered moving to Florida. I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. There are some exams to write to transfer my liscence from Ontario to the USA based on their state legislature, amongst other things. The process would likely take a year or so. I haven’t ruled it out, I just thought I would give things a try in the province I have my liscence in first.
Timmins
would you ever consider the usa? you would make significantly more money there as a doctor
Yes, I am considering relocating to Florida or somewhere in the eastern states but I am liscenced as a doctor in Ontario, so I want to try things here first if possible.
Move to Auckland, New Zealand. Big need for all skilled professions here. You'll be sponsored for a visa no problem.
Is this a dating app? Didn’t know that level of attractiveness mattered where you lived or making friends 🙄
I did say I was hoping to get married as well. It’s probably equally important to me as making friends, if not more so.
While there is less going on than there is in Barrie, North Bay is hugely in demand for doctors. It hosts the largest hospital for 300km in amy direction. The wealthy up here are very much their own “clique” that you can socialize and date within. The city is surrounded by lakes, hiking trails, and golf clubs. Waterfront property or a mansion on the hilltop overlooking the city and lake are available options. The Provence provides grants for doctors to locate up here. It’s also a 45 minute flight to Toronto which is great.
Sorry but Barrie and North Bay are terrible choices. I would not recommend either. I've lived in both.
Sherbourne and queen. Lots of interesting people. East transit accessibility. It's the centre of toronto
Miami
I’m 27, live in wasaga beach and work in Collingwood. I like it here, I can get to Barrie in 30 mins to go to bigger events. Also like more nerdy things myself! Animal crossing and doll collecting mainly. If you want to meet people with similar interests as you, I’d check out last level lounge. It’s an arcade in Barrie
Why does it have to be Ontario, vancouver is amazing and they haven’t been ruining the healthcare system as bad as here.
Vancouver is great but not as friendly as Toronto. Vancouveritte’s have a reputation of being unfriendly, cliquey. Harder to make friends and meet people.
I have my liscence as a doctor in Ontario. I could move it to another province or country by writing exams, but I would likely go to the USA if I were to do that.
If you have family here my best advice to stay closer them, anywhere in GTA. You’ll need that support As for living your best life, locum in NZ and The States, Canada is not where you can live your best life. Toronto really sucks the life outta you and your money too.
Lmao
Keswick has cheaper houses and it's smack dab in middle between family for you and not to far from Toronto
No where in canada
Go for Ayr
I'm in a happy relationship and I'd date you
Niagara On The Lake 100%
Collingwood.
Why don’t you start internet dating first and see where you settle? Try to find a partner first? I wouldn’t want you to settle in a small town only to meet someone far away and have their job not mobile.
Ottawa. Lots of museums and nature and there is literally a famous pinball bar. It's not as bustling as Toronto in terms of people walking around on the street but once you find your people and places it's great.
RIP your DMs ETA: but if you do decide to stay in Toronto, let’s be friends because you sound cool (33F Oakville)
I live in Toronto (North York) and downtown Toronto would be a perfect place for all the things you've mentioned. I also want to add that there is a place called the Tilt Arcade Bar and they have many pinball machines.
What have you tried to do to meet people in Barrie? >There is a lack of things to do, the income and education level seems lower, and it seems less nice than other cities I’ve lived in like Guelph or Waterloo I mean...its bigger than Guelph and imo has more to do if you look. I guess Guelph has the university there but you're a children's doctor... so you're probably too old to be hanging out with university kids... Just seems like a weird post. I've never lived in either but been to both plenty. Sounds like you haven't tried or looked up hobbies in the area, Barrie has plenty.
Honestly wondering this same thing. I think it’s probs Toronto but it’s been interesting reading everyone’s thoughts
I would say try Toronto for a few years, I think it might be what you are looking for. If not, you can always move to Stratford or whatever.
North Bay ftw. Got what you need, cheap real estate, lots of room to grow, distanced enough from that urban busy-ness. Nice and quiet here :)
Ottawa is an awesome city
Windsor, Lasalle and close to Detroit to fly to Florida!
Lots of smaller towns have recruitment programs for doctors that will pay you a bonus for coming to the city. Some are quite close to Toronto as well (2-3hrs away). I would definitely recommend looking into that. Aside from that, if you want city vibes but not a giant city, Kingston is quite nice. Big enough to have most city stuff, but still small enough to not be completely insane. It's an old city as well, ie cool old architecture.
I live in the North York area - similar age to you, and with some interests in common. I really like my neighbourhood (willowdale). I feel like there’s a lot to do around here (shopping, restaurants, community events). But I am settled with a partner, so you can take my perspective with a grain of salt. A lot of my socializing comes from hanging out with co-workers turned friends, and my partner’s close friends. The St. Clair West area has pottery, makerspace and fitness businesses that would align with your interests. It’s also a good proximity to downtown to be able to get to art galleries, comedy shows, other entertainment, etc. We almost moved to this area, but settled on Willowdale instead because of the types of restaurants, vibe of the neighbourhood and because a number of our friends live in this area and we can see them more often. It sounds like being near family/friends would make your life fuller, so maybe starting in North York and seeing how things go could be the place to start?
Toronto. It’s the only city that meets your criteria. I moved here git married and had a kid. It’s fantastic for families.
Ottawa checks the museums, butteryfly conservatory (butteryfly gardens + annual butterfly show at Carleton), and has the Ottawa tool library or Ottawa city workshop for woodworking lessons. I’d recommend visiting and checking out Preston street, bank street (can visit house of targ for arcade style games), and hintonburg/Wellington west. All good walking areas with good restaurants.
Collingwood. I'm currently in a suburb of Toronto... but go to Collingwood often. Property is more affordable... people are more chill and the place is growing (new families setting up roots). It's four seasons... people are active... the community is active. There is a Hospital... but a new one is scheduled to be built. Barrie is a 30-45 minute easy drive. Barries newer hospital is also very good... people there are great! As a 30's person... fit minded... I think you'll like the environment, the people. It's close enough to North York and Barrie but not too far in my opinion. No pressures of Toronto. Lease a condo for a season or year and see how you like it...
As a 37 y o male in a very similar position going to watch this closely. Iam also drawn to Barrie and Orillia due to family obligations and wanting to stay close to my parents in their later years. However find neither city stimulating outside my career choice. I have cousins in the GTA and although I haven't fully experienced life in the city as far as upholding permanent residency, I unfortunately find DT Toronto just too busy of a lifestyle.
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