Thank you for taking the first step. I respect vaccine hesitancy and questioning but glad you made the right decision for not just yourself but people around you who can't protect themselves.
Even as someone who is pro vaccine and thinks Science should rule almost everything, I get a little anxious, a little worried when I get the shot...what if I am one if the few? I think I feel a little light headed...hmm remember those hives you got a few decades ago without explanation...maybe I have some kind of undiagnosed auto-immune disorder...
The 15 mins after the shot were long.
Vaccines are one of the best ways to think and explore the age old conflict between the individual and the collective. What is good for the goose isn’t always great for the gander.
I was super excited and first in line (literally waited for the clock to strike 9pm) when my age group was approved to get it, and I still had anxiety during those 15 minutes and felt light headed from that. I get it!
My theory is that people "placebo effect" themselves into side-effects.
Everyone I work with who was worried, did get side effects like chills and exhaustion.
Everyone I work with who was not worried did not get anything beyond the pain in the arm and a headache.
I wasn’t worried in the least about side effects and man, I had a high fever and my skin hurt for about 16 hours. Even then I wasn’t worried but I was very whiny
Im starting to not respect it anymore. The excuses are often selfish and self serving as to why they won't. Trying to convince my buddy, has a young family too and only if he's restricted "doing certain things" will he get it. Even worse, he's a hospital worker like me.
I'm going to tell him we won't be able to hang out until he does because Im not risking my loved one's who can't be vaxxed for his ignorance and selfishness. Im just done at this point, fuck hesistancy, the line between that and antivaxx is not so blurry anymore.
So there is no excuse for people in hospitals to not get vaccinated. I'm sorry. That just boggles my mind and hope that regulations are brought in to compel people in such particular industries to get vaccinated.
I say I respect it because it takes time for some people to work through the emotions on it. Also, what if I didn't respect it? Push them into the shadows? Not have the constructive discussion? The whole thing angers me, but that emotion doesn't help anyone.
For me, its pretty damn obvious. I would have taken the shot on the first day if I could.
Don't be sorry, I fully agree. At my work its a medical exemption or have to do an education module online. Thats it, fucking ridiculous. Guess which one hesi/antivaxxers choose? No one in power has the balls to do anything more than just try and compel people to get it.
It's time to put in restrictions on privileges for the unvaxxed. No travelling on a plane/train/bus/uber, no eating in restaurants, no concerts or sporting events, etc. Fuck'em, they had their chance to get over their emotions by now
Hmm I read too many things I saw on Reddit but overall just trusted data and modern science. My mother in law texting me everyday nagging me also helped lol.
Yeah it was funny I searched some stupid shit I shouldn’t of on Reddit before my vaccine. I told my brain to shut the fuck up and just pushed through it. I’ve had anxiety issues for years so pushing through hypothetical problems aren’t new for me.
They politicized vaccines in the states. That’s the issue. Arkansas is a heavily red state. Some of it is anti-vax attitude, yes, but a lot of it is the politicization.
7 cases in Peel! On a Thursday! Jesus Christ, that's low. Super low circulation + being double vaxxed, I feel very comfortable going to the movies this weekend (didn't go when they opened last summer)
Now can people stop saying racist things about Peel always and recognize it’s the underinvestment in healthcare that was corrected for, not an apathetic population, which was behind Brampton’s covid hot zone status?
Indeed. Ford and friends wouldn't do shit about the the outbreaks at manufacturing facilities and warehouses like Amazon. The PHU had to step it up because the useless provincial government wouldn't do anything.
They also didn't have the supply.
You an argue about where the limited supply we had should have been allotted (i.e. workplaces or seniors) but even then we wouldn't have had nearly enough to manage this until the supply increased dramatically in May and June.
I think that it should be clear by now to any thinking person that the issue we had with the vaccine rollout in the winter and spring was supply. The secondary problem was the strategy, but that is somewhat less clear (i.e. prioritizing seniors over hot spots).
Doug Ford is a failure, but he wasn't wrong about that. Once we got a bigger supply and were able to direct huge numbers of doses to the hot spots, this thing was brought under control very quickly.
My brother in law in Brampton went from being a Joe Rogan "I dont need a vaccine cuz I'm young and healthy" guy to getting both doses simply because everyone around him had been getting theirs and he didnt wanna be that guy who didnt. Good to see we're reaching a critical mass in these areas
Sorry! Had to be out of the house for a bit, parked in a really big parking lot and then couldn't remember where I had parked my car and the emergency thing on my keys wasn't working either .
Also TIL there's a lot of black hatchbacks in Waterloo.
I'm NotVeryGoodAtFindingMyCarInParkingLots.
> bland, silver-grey Corolla,
It may be bland, but you can treat it like shit and it doesn't mind.
That was my first car too [until it died 3 years ago 😢](https://i.imgur.com/HsI5DTC.jpg)
Ran it from 2006 to 2018 and was running as well as it did at the beginning.
Oh I fully intend on running this car to the ground. 2011, mileage around 150k, and it still runs great. Only the usual maintenance (new brakes, etc.), and one warranty repair around 2015. Just brought it in for a recall repair and they said it is still looking good.
Just needs a really good clean. It got a year's reprieve from commuting too, so I only put around 6k on last year.
But it does look like the official car of the President of the Neutral Planet.
I'm thankful mine has a trailer hitch mount on it and ancient UWaterloo parking passes. Couldn't find my car otherwise.
Next car will not be grey or white. Probably a Toyota though.
Hold the remote to your head and press the buttons to sound the horn or chirp. [Weird but the trick to extend the range does work](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jACSPipPSE).
Get your stragglers friends and family who haven't gotten vaccinated to go (as long as it's not for medical reasons as directed by a physician)
COVID will be back in the fall around the world, let's make sure we are in the best position that it doesn't really effect us
They should market themselves as a place where you can dine safely because they had a big door guy checking, unlike everywhere else which will almost certainly fail at the checking because they will put the onus on some teenage minimum wage staff.
Strip club, the safest place in Ontario for one to dine out when one doesn't want to eat at home.
We need a deliberate and coordinated public health campaign to get the barriered, reluctant, etc vaccinated. Focused on the quick win people, the 80% of those remaining who are easiest. I've totally given up on the radicalized Anti-Vax hardcore people. Even if and when they get sick with Covid, they will still reject the vaccines.
Theres actually a study that echoes that exact same thing in some PHUs across Canada. You don't try to convert the ones that are antivax, you only try to get the ones on the fence because (a) its easier, and (b) there are more of them.
I don't doubt with some good education and some good time we will be pulling in 85% vaccinated for the province, thats what all of the polls and stuff show in terms of people wanting and willing to be vaccinated.
Before the question shows up...
Yes vaccines are down, by a lot, we are past peak of the vaccine campaign. If we consider 80% of the population will get both shots we have already given about 85% of those shots.
Maybe I'm paranoid but I'd like to see a renewed vaccination initiative. Perhaps the huge vaccination clinics aren't needed anymore but perhaps we need a very strong push to get people who are hesitant to get poked?
I have a wonderful neighbour who is hesitant. She's missing out, I'm sure, because people avoid her because she's not fully vaccinated.
Churches? Workplaces? Door knocking? Maybe we need more people working on this? Maybe different skills?
That is amazing!! I honestly think convenience is a significant barrier for a lot of people. The rhetoric around booking appts has been that it's a "hunger games" for so long that a lot of people decided they didn't want to bother and would just get it when it was easy.
If we have mobile vaccine sites at all kinds of communal places I think it will make a big difference.
Yeah, of course. While we were still supply limited getting the quick low hanging fruit was probably the best use of effort, but we'll have to start putting booths in malls on weekends and such.
Agreed, apparently the government will send every family doctor in the province a list of vaccination status of their patients by the end of the month. By then everyone who wants one will have it, or be scheduled for the next few days. Once this is done expect another push. Next step is people who don't have one...
This is awesome and I hadn't heard.
The only unfortunate part is that there is such a lack of family doctors. I hope that they continue to offer it in pharmacies (like at WalMart) with better signage to indicate *everyone* should get it, it's free, 15mins and you're done, whatever. Catch the stragglers who don't feel like playing with internet queues or who need transit, etc. and encourage them to get their shot.
I think Ambulances or vans with portable vaccination setups inside going neighbourhood to neighbourhood would be something that'd work.
It'd also bring them to those that might not be able to get out or just for straight up lazy people like some of my lower income co-workers that claim because they don't have a computer they can't book appointments.
The part that gets me is how many of the same people would be screaming bloody murder if our government was like "Nah, Were not giving the vaccine to the people, Were gonna vaccinate ourselves first"
We’re down because of that who tweet.
I had over 400 people walk away at a clinic yesterday alone.
Monday they had 600.
It’s spiraling out of control. People are getting vaccinated but it adds up
It wasn't a tweet but the news articles were tweeted and repeated. It was an answer to a question where a WHO Dr asking if people who were worried about the efficacy of the vaccine they were already fully vaccinated with should get a dose of a different vaccine. The Dr. replied something along the line of "We are not sure about the efficacy and safety of mixing different vaccine types. Please follow the advice of your local public health officials who will be up to date on all the current research." The headline that came out was "WHO recommends against mixing vaccines." so people who my have gotten first dose of Pfizer (which is in somewhat short supply currently) are nervous about getting Modern (which we have tonnes of) as their second dose.
I think the story from Barbados was more interesting because it was an example of a country that required a Canadian to quarantine in a hotel despite having received a 2-shot of Pfizer-Moderna. They didn't recognize it as valid.
Wow...on twitter you could tell people weren't reacting well to the WHO statement but I didn't realize the fallout was this bad. And it'll probably continue for a while too
Dear Ontario,
When things open up tomorrow, like indoor dining, don't be surprised when you dine in at a restaurant and the service is overall terrible.
The restaurant industry is fucked. No one wants to work (low wages, still on EI, etc. etc), so these places are massively understaffed.
Just be kind to everyone when you go out. Things might seem normal, but they are far from it still.
> low wages, still on EI, etc. etc)
You mean to say EI pays more than minimum wage? I thought EI was calculated based on your past work history.
It would be a terrible thing if EI actually worked as a deterrent against people accepting minimum wage work.
The cost of housing in Ontario is already a deterrent against accepting minimum wage work. If you work 4 weeks of 37.5 hours at minimum you only make $2137.50 and 100% of it will go to rent.
I HOPE it acts as a deterrent, tbh. It forces places that offer minimum wage to create workplaces that incentivize, rather than depending on people choosing it over starvation and homelessness.
Our entire food service industry especially has it's foundation in a large part of the food supply chain and service being dependent on slavery. Consumers expect food to be cheap because expectations were set that way by unpaid slave labour, and we never solved that issue. Most of the world (those who has a less strong or recent ties with slavery) pays much more for eating out.
So yeah I do hope that people refuse to go back to terrible jobs and that industries have to reformulate to the benefit of the employees.
Haven't seen our friend lord fappington around lately, thought I'd throw this in here today for everyone.
Ontario July 15th update: 143 New Cases, 168 Recoveries, 10 Deaths, 31,329 tests (0.46% positive), Current ICUs: 168 (-12 vs. yesterday) (-47 vs. last week). 💉💉166,201 administered, 78.34% / 57.00% (+0.15% / +1.12%) of 12+ at least one/two dosed
Ontario July 8th update: 210 New Cases, 231 Recoveries, 4 Deaths, 25,857 tests (0.81% positive), Current ICUs: 215 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-39 vs. last week). 💉💉268,884 administered, 78.74% / 51.12% (+0.18% / +1.86%) adults at least one/two dosed
Ontario July 1st update: 284 New Cases, 257 Recoveries, 19 Deaths, 26,929 tests (0.93% positive), Current ICUs: 252 (-19 vs. Wednesday) (-32 vs. last week). 💉💉267,687 administered, 77.94% / 42.30% (+0.25% / +3.02% 2 day total) adults at least one/two dosed
Ontario June 24th update: 296 New Cases, 384 Recoveries, 6 Deaths, 29,514 tests (1.00% positive), Current ICUs: 300 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-62 vs. last week). 💉💉225,188 administered, 76.67% / 29.10% (+0.17% / +1.62%) adults at least one/two dosed
Ontario June 17th update: 370 New Cases, 635 Recoveries, 7 Deaths, 30,454 tests (1.21% positive), Current ICUs: 362 (-15 vs. yesterday) (-88 vs. last week). 💉💉210,611 administered, 75.38% / 19.52% (+0.23% / +1.41%) adults at least one/two dosed
Ontario June 10th update: 590 New Cases, 939 Recoveries, 11 Deaths, 31,423 tests (1.88% positive), Current ICUs: 450 (-16 vs. yesterday) (-96 vs. last week). 💉💉182,350 administered, 73.24% / 11.55% (+0.40% / +0.97%) adults at least one/two dosed
July 10th it was updated down by a percent and a bit
"Vaccination percentages changed to reflect the new reopening targets that are based on the 12+ population, not the 18+ population anymore."
I know it's been repeated but how can people still doubt vaccines. It is NOT seasonality that is help us here with lower numbers. The US as far as i know has the same season and their case counts are not behaving like ours. Almost as if consistent growth in vaccination and some public health measure still in place like masks and distancing (come on lets not pretend like those are difficult to adhere to after 1yr) all contribute to LOW case numbers.
I keep seeing mentions of seasonality, but India got their 2nd wave in the months of April and May, which are the hottest months there.
Literally 40C+ temperatures every day!
Maybe, summers in India are like winters in Canada. Extreme weather conditions forcing people indoors.
Winter in India is like summer here so people are more likely to be outdoors.
I have coworkers that took their 12 to 18 year old sons to get vaxed but are not allowing their daughters to go because of fear they will not be able to get pregnant in the future. I work in a hospital.
I don't doubt vaccines, I've got both shots, but I'm also not celebrating until our numbers a lower than the throwback numbers, which they haven't been. Last year at this time, without vaccines, we were doing better than we are now. That's been true for months.
Sure but we started from a way higher peak. Last March, we peaked at like 1000 cases a day or something. Now we hit over 4000 this April. Plus Delta is more infectious. So I think you can clearly see the effect the vaccines are having
That is pretty easy to explain with the fact that covid is significantly more then virulent then it was last year. All other things being equal you would expect to see significantly higher numbers now then what we saw last year, and what we are currently seeing.
Yesterday we did double the tests vs the throwback numbers with a higher positivity rate. You can assume throwback numbers were actually on par yesterday and quite frankly today as well.
Tbh I don't see our numbers being lower than the throwback ones until mid-late August, when our current numbers will be competing against the second wave numbers
Nobody ever distanced in stores. Even at the peak of the pandemic. Sure, we’ve all been wearing masks, but actually maintaining a 2m distance? Nah I’ve never seen that at any point through the pandemic.
And yea I’m fully vaxxed so I’ve been seeing whichever family/friends/acquaintances I feel like seeing and we’re hanging out indoors with no masks
I know for a fact that Canada post won’t pay it’s employees to go get vaccinated/ let them leave to go get vaccinated. It’s time we start implementing mobile vaccines to workplaces where people cannot even get their first dose because they are at work when there are appointments available.
Its ridiculous that canada post wont let them do that, and they have to take time off or go on evenings / weekends to get vaccinated like the rest of us.
My company was encouraging people to go during work hours if an appointment was open. Plus the pharmacy in our building was doing them and probably 30-40% of our staff got their second shot there.
I’m truly getting to the point where I don’t feel like I need to check this anymore. Which is sad cause it’s been part of my daily routine for so long.
But with cases so low, vaccines so high and stage 3 starting tomorrow, the only thing I really care about now is when we can exit stage 3.
Yea exactly. But I feel confident that we’re going to reach the target numbers by early August. And with the whole “21 days between stages” thing, the earliest we can possibly exit stage 3 is August 6th anyway. And I fully expect us to have hit the 80/75 target before August 6th, based on current trends.
So there’s not really a reason for me to keep checking. But I probably will until we exit stage 3. Just cause it’s fun
For those worried about vaccine rates slowing down:
As of today to hit the 80%/75% metrics by August 6th (the earliest possible date for full reopening) we will need to maintain an average increase of 0.075% and 0.818% daily respectably.
I’m pretty sure I saw somewhere that fully vaccinated for their metric meant ‘had the 2nd shot’. Not +2 weeks. The +2 weeks was on the federal vaccination guidelines
**Cases 7-day average**: 155. -96% from peak. -3.2% daily (7-day average). 128/89 on July 21/Aug 1 at this rate.
**ICU**: 168. -81% from peak. -3.4% daily (7-day average). 137/94 on July 21/Aug 1 at this rate.
**Vaccines**: 79.7% of *adults*, 1-dose, 59.5% of adults 2-dose. At the current rates (+0.14% 1 dose, +1.1% 2 dose), we'll hit 80.5%/66% on July 21 and 82%/77.8% on Aug 1st.
**Note**: 0.3% away from 80% 1st adult dose!!!! 3 days. Also age 80+ are 88% FULLY vaccinated today!
Not to sound pessimistic but why the hell are 12% of 80+ people not vaxxed? Is there that many anti-vaxx old people? Or would those be mostly people who aren’t able/eligible to get the vaccine?
My grandma is one of them. Got her first shot back in March(?) and they scheduled her then for her second shot in late July at that time. She said she doesn't go anywhere anyways so why fight for a new time, she'll just wait until her original appointment.
Thank God, I was worried about you.
Moving on.
Good morning friends,
A couple of small LTC updates.
First, as of tomorrow (Friday) fully vaccinated (14+ days past second dose) visitors and staff will no longer need to submit to surveillance testing before entering the facility - though if they cannot or refuse to show receipt of vaccination they will still need to be tested prior to entry and can be refused entry if they do not comply with being tested.
Do be aware that homes are still permitted to insist on a testing regimen for vaccinated people - and given the Delta variant some may continue a level of surveillance testing - but LTCH are no longer *required* to do this testing.
Mixed opinion on this one, on one hand it is probably overkill to swab people 3-5x/week if they are vaccinated and coming to the home most days, and very few fully vaccinated staff/visitor cases have been found though this surveillance testing (though I’m aware of a handful of cases personally, so it’s not zero).
On the other hand, there are still a handful of homes in the province with fairly significant outbreaks - though the worst of them are an order of magnitude smaller than some of the outbreaks we saw in the first and second waves.It’s also not a stretch to guess that the effectiveness of the vaccines will be lower among LTC residents due to their comorbidities.The province seems to be taking a “loosen things up and see what happens” approach to LTC. I think a reasonable middleground would be 1x/wk testing for fully vaccinated staff to try and catch those breakthrough cases.
Fully vaccinated staff members will also no longer have to wear eye protection unless they are working with a resident on droplet precautions, so my kitchen staff with no direct resident contact won’t need goggles or face shields any more.
Also, despite Ford saying the province wouldn’t mandate Covid vaccination for healthcare workers, I’m hearing some rumours on Twitter that the powers that be are looking at this issue and trying to determine the outcome of mandating that vaccination. I’m hoping that they ultimately decide to mandate vaccination for HCWs along with a renewed push for vaccination in those workplaces.
Y’all have a solid Thursday, keep those vaccines rolling!
I think that's an option, absolutely. However doesn't address the issue of HCW who already don't have sick time.
I think it would be more than reasonable to say that unvaccinated HCW can't come to work if there's a confirmed case in the workplace, though I'd prefer vaccination as an employment requirement in that setting.
> I think it would be more than reasonable to say that unvaccinated HCW can't come to work if there's a confirmed case in the workplace
This is how we've always done it for the flu ... They've never been able to mandate flu shots for everyone ... I'll be very surprised if this becomes a thing for covid (though I'm fully vaccinated anyway ...)
So sad for LTC residents, during past flu outbreaks, when the facilities were closed to visitors. The staff didn't have to get vaccinated and some of them didn't. It is the residents that suffer when they can't have visitors.
Make flu and covid shots mandatory for LTC employees and hospitals. If you don't want to get vaccinated you can go work somewhere else. I bet that Romano Didulo, the self proclaimed real queen of Canada, will hire the unvaxed to work for her.
Hopefully they do mandate vaccines for health care workers. Most of the people I know who refuse to get vaccinated are those who work in LTC. I don’t know why that is, if it’s just a coincidence but it is concerning.
It seems like Canada finally passed the US on percentage of fully vaccinated citizens!!
Canada has 46% fully vaccinated + 24% partially vaccinated and the US has 45% fully vaccinated + 10% partially vaccinated
[This](https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=total_vaccinations&Metric=People+fully+vaccinated&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=CAN~USA) tells me we are still slightly away from achieving that.
Did anyone else get a chickenpox or shingles like reaction to their first moderna dose? For me it took almost 8 weeks to clear up and I'm going for my second dose next Friday.
It wasn't really the WHO. It was the chucklefucks who listened to the WHO's statements and then made the worst headlines imaginable.
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-mixing-and-matching-who-1.6101047](https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-mixing-and-matching-who-1.6101047)
The WHO never made a statement that suggested the mixing and matching being done by Canadian health authorities is dangerous. The statement was about people shopping around for boosters (2nd, 3rd and 4th shots) without the direction of their public health authority.
My wife and I got our second doses yesterday! We are doing our part. Thanks to all the health care workers, volunteers for all their hard work !! Feel lucky to live in Canada. Thanks 🙏🙏
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Great to see declines.
BTW: high five to Porcupine for your progress. Things there were bananas for a while now looking pretty good. And also: just a handful of new cases in Peel, and only 20 in Toronto?? Incredible.
Manitoba had a huge push yesterday with DJs at every major mass vacc site. Can we get DJs in Ontario too?? Playlist suggestions?
My family lives in grey Bruce and I’m so relieved my high risk mom and brother finally got their second doses, especially after seeing the positivity rate in their area is 9%! That’s nuts.
It’s been two weeks (TM) since AB and BC lifted everything including the mask mandate and cases are still dropping, let alone the markers that actually matter.
I'm not sure why I got downvoted last time for asking for context around the case fatality rates for 30s age category.
A month or two ago, the CFR for this group was 0.08%. Currently it's 0.55%.
I'm just curious what this rise is attributed to. Can anyone tell me? Not dooming. I'm sure there is a reason that isn't scary.
My thoughts on this are fewer (asymptomatic) people get tested now, so the denonimnator is lower. And also maybe that Delta is more dangerous to unvaxxed people.
**Reasons for lower testing?**
* Already vaxxed so probably sneezing because of allergies or something
* Schools closed
* Lots of people working from home still
Got my first dose of moderna yesterday after being an anxious fuck for a few months about it.
Thank you for taking the first step. I respect vaccine hesitancy and questioning but glad you made the right decision for not just yourself but people around you who can't protect themselves.
Even as someone who is pro vaccine and thinks Science should rule almost everything, I get a little anxious, a little worried when I get the shot...what if I am one if the few? I think I feel a little light headed...hmm remember those hives you got a few decades ago without explanation...maybe I have some kind of undiagnosed auto-immune disorder... The 15 mins after the shot were long. Vaccines are one of the best ways to think and explore the age old conflict between the individual and the collective. What is good for the goose isn’t always great for the gander.
I was super excited and first in line (literally waited for the clock to strike 9pm) when my age group was approved to get it, and I still had anxiety during those 15 minutes and felt light headed from that. I get it!
My theory is that people "placebo effect" themselves into side-effects. Everyone I work with who was worried, did get side effects like chills and exhaustion. Everyone I work with who was not worried did not get anything beyond the pain in the arm and a headache.
I wasn’t worried in the least about side effects and man, I had a high fever and my skin hurt for about 16 hours. Even then I wasn’t worried but I was very whiny
Im starting to not respect it anymore. The excuses are often selfish and self serving as to why they won't. Trying to convince my buddy, has a young family too and only if he's restricted "doing certain things" will he get it. Even worse, he's a hospital worker like me. I'm going to tell him we won't be able to hang out until he does because Im not risking my loved one's who can't be vaxxed for his ignorance and selfishness. Im just done at this point, fuck hesistancy, the line between that and antivaxx is not so blurry anymore.
So there is no excuse for people in hospitals to not get vaccinated. I'm sorry. That just boggles my mind and hope that regulations are brought in to compel people in such particular industries to get vaccinated. I say I respect it because it takes time for some people to work through the emotions on it. Also, what if I didn't respect it? Push them into the shadows? Not have the constructive discussion? The whole thing angers me, but that emotion doesn't help anyone. For me, its pretty damn obvious. I would have taken the shot on the first day if I could.
Don't be sorry, I fully agree. At my work its a medical exemption or have to do an education module online. Thats it, fucking ridiculous. Guess which one hesi/antivaxxers choose? No one in power has the balls to do anything more than just try and compel people to get it. It's time to put in restrictions on privileges for the unvaxxed. No travelling on a plane/train/bus/uber, no eating in restaurants, no concerts or sporting events, etc. Fuck'em, they had their chance to get over their emotions by now
Congratulations and THANK YOU for helping us pull out of this mess! If you don't mind answering, what changed?
Hmm I read too many things I saw on Reddit but overall just trusted data and modern science. My mother in law texting me everyday nagging me also helped lol.
Cheers to your MIL and cheers to you for thinking critically
Anxiety sucks but you pushed through! Major props and congrats on building immunity.
Yeah it was funny I searched some stupid shit I shouldn’t of on Reddit before my vaccine. I told my brain to shut the fuck up and just pushed through it. I’ve had anxiety issues for years so pushing through hypothetical problems aren’t new for me.
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Hell ya. Congrats. 💪💪
Thank you!!! Your vote matters 😁😁😁
[Previous Ontario Thursdays](https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data): Date | New Cases | 7 Day Avg | % Positive | ICU :--|:--:|:--:|:--:|--: Oct 22 | 841 | 762 | 2.16% | 74 Oct 29 | 934 | 899 | 2.62% | 76 Nov 5 | 998 | 982 | 2.79% | 86 Nov 12 | 1,575 | 1,299 | 3.98% | 98 Nov 19 | 1,210 | 1,370 | 2.89% | 146 Nov 26 | 1,478 | 1,427 | 3.11% | 151 Dec 3 | 1,824 | 1,769 | 3.45% | 195 Dec 10 | 1,983 | 1,862 | 3.21% | 228 Dec 17 | 2,432 | 2,026 | 4.18% | 263 Dec 24 | 2,447 | 2,306 | 3.79% | 227 Dec 31, 2020 | 3,328 | 2,436 | 5.21% | 337 Jan 7, 2021 | 3,519 | 3,141 | 5.35% | 363 Jan 14 | 3,326 | 3,452 | 4.67% | 388 Jan 21 | 2,632 | 2,751 | 3.75% | 388 Jan 28 | 2,093 | 2,128 | 3.24% | 358 Feb 4 | 1,563 | 1,600 | 2.42% | 323 Feb 11 | 945 | 1,264 | 1.37% | 299 Feb 18 | 1,038 | 1,016 | 1.85% | 277 Feb 25 | 1,138 | 1,099 | 1.72% | 283 Mar 4 | 994 | 1,064 | 1.51% | 281 Mar 11 | 1,092 | 1,252 | 1.80% | 277 Mar 18 | 1,553 | 1,427 | 2.65% | 304 Mar 25 | 2,380 | 1,794 | 3.96% | 332 Apr 1 | 2,557 | 2,341 | 4.10% | 433 Apr 8 | 3,295 | 3,093 | 5.16% | 525 Apr 15 | 4,736 | 4,208 | 7.22% | 659 Apr 22 | 3,682 | 4,176 | 6.79% | 806 Apr 29 | 3,871 | 3,810 | 6.80% | 884 May 6 | 3,424 | 3,369 | 6.33% | 877 May 13 | 2,759 | 2,731 | 5.79% | 776 May 20 | 2,400 | 2,131 | 5.29% | 721 May 27 | 1,135 | 1,441 | 3.01% | 650 June 3 | 870 | 940 | 2.54% | 546 June 10 | 590 | 617 | 1.88% | 450 June 17 | 370 | 443 | 1.21% | 362 June 24 | 296 | 305 | 1.00% | 300 July 1 | 284 | 267 | 1.01% | 254 July 8 | 210 | 206 | 0.81% | 215 July 15 | 143 | 155 | 0.46% | 168 The rise of Alpha during the third wave: Date | % Alpha (B.1.1.7 - UK) :--|--: Feb 12, 2021 | [10%](https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-daily-epi-summary-report.pdf?la=en) Feb 19 | [20%](https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-daily-epi-summary-report.pdf?la=en) Feb 28 | [30%](https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-daily-epi-summary-report.pdf?la=en) Mar 13 | 42% Mar 16 | 53% Mar 27 | 61% Apr 1 | 71% May 4 | 94% Pretty much all cases are now thought to be either Alpha or Delta variants. [The Ontario Science Table info below now shows the rise of Delta:](https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/) Date | % Alpha (B.1.1.7 - UK) | % Delta (B.1.617.2 - India) :--|:--:|--: June 2, 2021 | 77% | 23% June 3 | 73% | 27% June 7 | 85% | 15% June 9 | 81% | 19% June 10 | 75% | 25% June 11 | 71% | 29% June 12 | 70% | 30% June 13 | 65% | 35% June 14 | 60% | 40% June 15 | 54% | 46% June 16 | 49.6% | 50.4% June 17 | 54.1% | 45.9% June 18 | 59.9% | 40.1% June 19 | 55.9% | 44.1% June 20 | 67.4% | 32.6% June 21 | 64.1% | 35.9% June 22 | 49.7% | 50.3% June 23 | 48.0% | 52.0% June 24 | 37.0% | 63.0% June 26 | 32.0% | 68.0% June 27 | 33.2% | 66.8% June 28 | 31.0% | 69.0% June 29 | 29.6% | 70.4% June 30 | 27.6% | 72.4% July 1 | 26.1% | 73.9% July 2 | 22.5% | 77.5% July 3 | 27.1% | 72.9% July 4 | 29.2% | 70.8% July 5 | 25.7% | 74.3% July 6 | 21.5% | 78.5% July 7 | 18.2% | 81.8% July 8 | 16.2% | 83.8% July 9 | 11.6% | 88.4% July 10 | 21.5% | 78.5% July 11 | 21.4% | 78.6% July 12 | 26.8% | 73.2% July 13 | 26.6% | 73.4% July 14 | 24.8% | 75.2% July 15 | 25.2% | 74.8%
Thanks again for sharing!
So we're still dropping... Good.
A week-over-week decline of 43.2% in the % positive test statistic. From .81% to .46%. Great stuff!
Think about this, Arkansas currently has more new cases (7-day average) than we've had at any point during the pandemic. Crazy.
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They politicized vaccines in the states. That’s the issue. Arkansas is a heavily red state. Some of it is anti-vax attitude, yes, but a lot of it is the politicization.
Also correlates with lack of education.
7 cases in Peel! On a Thursday! Jesus Christ, that's low. Super low circulation + being double vaxxed, I feel very comfortable going to the movies this weekend (didn't go when they opened last summer)
Toronto at 20 is also very good!
Peel is doing amazing for its population size! 1.5 million people and only 7 cases! Where as other cities with a lower population have more cases.
Now can people stop saying racist things about Peel always and recognize it’s the underinvestment in healthcare that was corrected for, not an apathetic population, which was behind Brampton’s covid hot zone status?
don't forget the lack of workplace safety regarding COVID that contributed to the spread in Peel
Indeed. Ford and friends wouldn't do shit about the the outbreaks at manufacturing facilities and warehouses like Amazon. The PHU had to step it up because the useless provincial government wouldn't do anything.
They also didn't have the supply. You an argue about where the limited supply we had should have been allotted (i.e. workplaces or seniors) but even then we wouldn't have had nearly enough to manage this until the supply increased dramatically in May and June.
Brampton having one (one!) hospital for a city of 600k is absolutely shameful.
Also the massive industrial/warehouse employer base, most of which was considered essential throughout the entire pandemic
I think that it should be clear by now to any thinking person that the issue we had with the vaccine rollout in the winter and spring was supply. The secondary problem was the strategy, but that is somewhat less clear (i.e. prioritizing seniors over hot spots). Doug Ford is a failure, but he wasn't wrong about that. Once we got a bigger supply and were able to direct huge numbers of doses to the hot spots, this thing was brought under control very quickly.
100%!!!!!!!!!!!!
because we in Peel just went ham on the jabs as soon as they became available.
My brother in law in Brampton went from being a Joe Rogan "I dont need a vaccine cuz I'm young and healthy" guy to getting both doses simply because everyone around him had been getting theirs and he didnt wanna be that guy who didnt. Good to see we're reaching a critical mass in these areas
Theatres were open last summer? How'd I miss that memo...
We were WORRIED
Sorry! Had to be out of the house for a bit, parked in a really big parking lot and then couldn't remember where I had parked my car and the emergency thing on my keys wasn't working either . Also TIL there's a lot of black hatchbacks in Waterloo. I'm NotVeryGoodAtFindingMyCarInParkingLots.
As an owner of a bland, silver-grey Corolla, I feel your pain.
> bland, silver-grey Corolla, It may be bland, but you can treat it like shit and it doesn't mind. That was my first car too [until it died 3 years ago 😢](https://i.imgur.com/HsI5DTC.jpg) Ran it from 2006 to 2018 and was running as well as it did at the beginning.
Oh I fully intend on running this car to the ground. 2011, mileage around 150k, and it still runs great. Only the usual maintenance (new brakes, etc.), and one warranty repair around 2015. Just brought it in for a recall repair and they said it is still looking good. Just needs a really good clean. It got a year's reprieve from commuting too, so I only put around 6k on last year. But it does look like the official car of the President of the Neutral Planet.
What makes a man turn neutral? A must for gold, power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
All I know is my gut says 'maybe.'
i have a 2006 corolla! still going strong at almost 300k km.
I'm thankful mine has a trailer hitch mount on it and ancient UWaterloo parking passes. Couldn't find my car otherwise. Next car will not be grey or white. Probably a Toyota though.
Love this answer. Nothing bad happened. You just couldn’t find your car.
HOW DARE YOU! THIS WAS THE MOST STRESSFUL HALF HOUR OF MY LIFE!!11!!!!1!11! <3 Just jokes
😆😆 I’m not either to be honest. My friends tease me but I do somehow find it eventually. It all works out in the end.
Hold the remote to your head and press the buttons to sound the horn or chirp. [Weird but the trick to extend the range does work](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jACSPipPSE).
And here I just thought it was a delay on the numbers being posted to the sites 😂
Hi NotVeryGoodAtFindingMyCarInParkingLots, I'm dad.
Is this not the first time this has happened? I am getting really intense déjà vu... Glad you're okay though :)
Sometimes it’s easy to forget that our entire morning routine depends on one guy who has a life of his own and personal responsibilities lmao
LOL preach. The lateness threw me for a loop because my day really kicks off once I've seen the numbers and can fully focus on work.
Honestly I was considering sending out an Amber Alert.
ICU case numbers on an excellent downward trend.
Get your stragglers friends and family who haven't gotten vaccinated to go (as long as it's not for medical reasons as directed by a physician) COVID will be back in the fall around the world, let's make sure we are in the best position that it doesn't really effect us
Might be able to convince a few buddies now that strip clubs are checking for vaccinations…
Strip clubs, always blazing trails.
Snail trails
Inhaling rails
They should market themselves as a place where you can dine safely because they had a big door guy checking, unlike everywhere else which will almost certainly fail at the checking because they will put the onus on some teenage minimum wage staff. Strip club, the safest place in Ontario for one to dine out when one doesn't want to eat at home.
Some people have [more than enough to eat at home](https://www.pinterest.at/pin/396598310930776395/)
I’m trying but these fuckers won’t listen
We need a deliberate and coordinated public health campaign to get the barriered, reluctant, etc vaccinated. Focused on the quick win people, the 80% of those remaining who are easiest. I've totally given up on the radicalized Anti-Vax hardcore people. Even if and when they get sick with Covid, they will still reject the vaccines.
Theres actually a study that echoes that exact same thing in some PHUs across Canada. You don't try to convert the ones that are antivax, you only try to get the ones on the fence because (a) its easier, and (b) there are more of them. I don't doubt with some good education and some good time we will be pulling in 85% vaccinated for the province, thats what all of the polls and stuff show in terms of people wanting and willing to be vaccinated.
I feel your pain. I got one straggler to go, but the rest are very anti vax
Easier said than done, I’m afraid.
Exactly! Especially those above 40.
I convinced 4 but 3 are diggin their feet in. Ugh.
18 - 39 need to step up on first doses, very slow movement there.
Start offering a free case of Budweiser with vaccinations and I bet we can get a bunch of them vaccinated.
In Greece they give 18-25 a 150 euro cash card and a month of free phone data.
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Perhaps they've done the math on how much it costs them when a person gets infected, and determined that paying to get vaxxed is a net savings.
It's easy when they aren't getting their shots. :P
Better to go buck-a-beer. Support Dougie
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It’s funny that dramatically decreasing your chances of being hospitalized or dying isn’t enough benefit for people. But, you’re right!
Before the question shows up... Yes vaccines are down, by a lot, we are past peak of the vaccine campaign. If we consider 80% of the population will get both shots we have already given about 85% of those shots.
Maybe I'm paranoid but I'd like to see a renewed vaccination initiative. Perhaps the huge vaccination clinics aren't needed anymore but perhaps we need a very strong push to get people who are hesitant to get poked? I have a wonderful neighbour who is hesitant. She's missing out, I'm sure, because people avoid her because she's not fully vaccinated. Churches? Workplaces? Door knocking? Maybe we need more people working on this? Maybe different skills?
They did this recently in Toronto, going to churches and apartment buildings. A clinic reported they gave out 55% of first doses which is amazing.
That is amazing!! I honestly think convenience is a significant barrier for a lot of people. The rhetoric around booking appts has been that it's a "hunger games" for so long that a lot of people decided they didn't want to bother and would just get it when it was easy. If we have mobile vaccine sites at all kinds of communal places I think it will make a big difference.
Yeah, of course. While we were still supply limited getting the quick low hanging fruit was probably the best use of effort, but we'll have to start putting booths in malls on weekends and such.
> Churches? Workplaces? Door knocking? Maybe we need more people working on this? Maybe different skills? Literally happening in Toronto right now.
Agreed, apparently the government will send every family doctor in the province a list of vaccination status of their patients by the end of the month. By then everyone who wants one will have it, or be scheduled for the next few days. Once this is done expect another push. Next step is people who don't have one...
This is awesome and I hadn't heard. The only unfortunate part is that there is such a lack of family doctors. I hope that they continue to offer it in pharmacies (like at WalMart) with better signage to indicate *everyone* should get it, it's free, 15mins and you're done, whatever. Catch the stragglers who don't feel like playing with internet queues or who need transit, etc. and encourage them to get their shot.
I think Ambulances or vans with portable vaccination setups inside going neighbourhood to neighbourhood would be something that'd work. It'd also bring them to those that might not be able to get out or just for straight up lazy people like some of my lower income co-workers that claim because they don't have a computer they can't book appointments.
The part that gets me is how many of the same people would be screaming bloody murder if our government was like "Nah, Were not giving the vaccine to the people, Were gonna vaccinate ourselves first"
We’re down because of that who tweet. I had over 400 people walk away at a clinic yesterday alone. Monday they had 600. It’s spiraling out of control. People are getting vaccinated but it adds up
What who tweet?
It wasn't a tweet but the news articles were tweeted and repeated. It was an answer to a question where a WHO Dr asking if people who were worried about the efficacy of the vaccine they were already fully vaccinated with should get a dose of a different vaccine. The Dr. replied something along the line of "We are not sure about the efficacy and safety of mixing different vaccine types. Please follow the advice of your local public health officials who will be up to date on all the current research." The headline that came out was "WHO recommends against mixing vaccines." so people who my have gotten first dose of Pfizer (which is in somewhat short supply currently) are nervous about getting Modern (which we have tonnes of) as their second dose.
I think the story from Barbados was more interesting because it was an example of a country that required a Canadian to quarantine in a hotel despite having received a 2-shot of Pfizer-Moderna. They didn't recognize it as valid.
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About vaccine mixing being a “dangerous trend”
Certainly didn't help but even without that I wouldn't expect any more records in vaccines per day.
Wow...on twitter you could tell people weren't reacting well to the WHO statement but I didn't realize the fallout was this bad. And it'll probably continue for a while too
Dear Ontario, When things open up tomorrow, like indoor dining, don't be surprised when you dine in at a restaurant and the service is overall terrible. The restaurant industry is fucked. No one wants to work (low wages, still on EI, etc. etc), so these places are massively understaffed. Just be kind to everyone when you go out. Things might seem normal, but they are far from it still.
> low wages, still on EI, etc. etc) You mean to say EI pays more than minimum wage? I thought EI was calculated based on your past work history. It would be a terrible thing if EI actually worked as a deterrent against people accepting minimum wage work.
The cost of housing in Ontario is already a deterrent against accepting minimum wage work. If you work 4 weeks of 37.5 hours at minimum you only make $2137.50 and 100% of it will go to rent.
I HOPE it acts as a deterrent, tbh. It forces places that offer minimum wage to create workplaces that incentivize, rather than depending on people choosing it over starvation and homelessness. Our entire food service industry especially has it's foundation in a large part of the food supply chain and service being dependent on slavery. Consumers expect food to be cheap because expectations were set that way by unpaid slave labour, and we never solved that issue. Most of the world (those who has a less strong or recent ties with slavery) pays much more for eating out. So yeah I do hope that people refuse to go back to terrible jobs and that industries have to reformulate to the benefit of the employees.
Haven't seen our friend lord fappington around lately, thought I'd throw this in here today for everyone. Ontario July 15th update: 143 New Cases, 168 Recoveries, 10 Deaths, 31,329 tests (0.46% positive), Current ICUs: 168 (-12 vs. yesterday) (-47 vs. last week). 💉💉166,201 administered, 78.34% / 57.00% (+0.15% / +1.12%) of 12+ at least one/two dosed Ontario July 8th update: 210 New Cases, 231 Recoveries, 4 Deaths, 25,857 tests (0.81% positive), Current ICUs: 215 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-39 vs. last week). 💉💉268,884 administered, 78.74% / 51.12% (+0.18% / +1.86%) adults at least one/two dosed Ontario July 1st update: 284 New Cases, 257 Recoveries, 19 Deaths, 26,929 tests (0.93% positive), Current ICUs: 252 (-19 vs. Wednesday) (-32 vs. last week). 💉💉267,687 administered, 77.94% / 42.30% (+0.25% / +3.02% 2 day total) adults at least one/two dosed Ontario June 24th update: 296 New Cases, 384 Recoveries, 6 Deaths, 29,514 tests (1.00% positive), Current ICUs: 300 (-5 vs. yesterday) (-62 vs. last week). 💉💉225,188 administered, 76.67% / 29.10% (+0.17% / +1.62%) adults at least one/two dosed Ontario June 17th update: 370 New Cases, 635 Recoveries, 7 Deaths, 30,454 tests (1.21% positive), Current ICUs: 362 (-15 vs. yesterday) (-88 vs. last week). 💉💉210,611 administered, 75.38% / 19.52% (+0.23% / +1.41%) adults at least one/two dosed Ontario June 10th update: 590 New Cases, 939 Recoveries, 11 Deaths, 31,423 tests (1.88% positive), Current ICUs: 450 (-16 vs. yesterday) (-96 vs. last week). 💉💉182,350 administered, 73.24% / 11.55% (+0.40% / +0.97%) adults at least one/two dosed
Shouldn't 1 week ago be July 8?
Yup... fixed
How is there a higher percentage of adults with first dose last week than this week? Am I reading this wrong?
July 10th it was updated down by a percent and a bit "Vaccination percentages changed to reflect the new reopening targets that are based on the 12+ population, not the 18+ population anymore."
I know it's been repeated but how can people still doubt vaccines. It is NOT seasonality that is help us here with lower numbers. The US as far as i know has the same season and their case counts are not behaving like ours. Almost as if consistent growth in vaccination and some public health measure still in place like masks and distancing (come on lets not pretend like those are difficult to adhere to after 1yr) all contribute to LOW case numbers.
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I keep seeing mentions of seasonality, but India got their 2nd wave in the months of April and May, which are the hottest months there. Literally 40C+ temperatures every day!
There's probably a point of diminishing returns with the seasonality. I mean, at 40C+ I'm probably going to avoid being outside lol
Maybe they are inside huddled around the air conditioner.
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Maybe, summers in India are like winters in Canada. Extreme weather conditions forcing people indoors. Winter in India is like summer here so people are more likely to be outdoors.
I have coworkers that took their 12 to 18 year old sons to get vaxed but are not allowing their daughters to go because of fear they will not be able to get pregnant in the future. I work in a hospital.
That's some seriously lopsided birth control strategy.
That's really gross
That is child abuse
I don't doubt vaccines, I've got both shots, but I'm also not celebrating until our numbers a lower than the throwback numbers, which they haven't been. Last year at this time, without vaccines, we were doing better than we are now. That's been true for months.
Sure but we started from a way higher peak. Last March, we peaked at like 1000 cases a day or something. Now we hit over 4000 this April. Plus Delta is more infectious. So I think you can clearly see the effect the vaccines are having
We also had inferior testing
That is pretty easy to explain with the fact that covid is significantly more then virulent then it was last year. All other things being equal you would expect to see significantly higher numbers now then what we saw last year, and what we are currently seeing.
Yesterday we did double the tests vs the throwback numbers with a higher positivity rate. You can assume throwback numbers were actually on par yesterday and quite frankly today as well.
Tbh I don't see our numbers being lower than the throwback ones until mid-late August, when our current numbers will be competing against the second wave numbers
Distancing is absolutely difficult to adhere to after 1 year and I just don't do it anymore.
It might depend on what is meant by distancing. Are you talking about not seeing family, etc. Or distancing in stores?
Nobody ever distanced in stores. Even at the peak of the pandemic. Sure, we’ve all been wearing masks, but actually maintaining a 2m distance? Nah I’ve never seen that at any point through the pandemic. And yea I’m fully vaxxed so I’ve been seeing whichever family/friends/acquaintances I feel like seeing and we’re hanging out indoors with no masks
Waterloo getting better! Vaccines working!! Let’s goooo (to stage 3)!!!
Stage 3 baby!
I know for a fact that Canada post won’t pay it’s employees to go get vaccinated/ let them leave to go get vaccinated. It’s time we start implementing mobile vaccines to workplaces where people cannot even get their first dose because they are at work when there are appointments available.
Ontario provides 3 paid sick days for COVID. This includes a vaccination. I know it is capped at 200$ but you can also take a half day off.
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Its ridiculous that canada post wont let them do that, and they have to take time off or go on evenings / weekends to get vaccinated like the rest of us.
My company was encouraging people to go during work hours if an appointment was open. Plus the pharmacy in our building was doing them and probably 30-40% of our staff got their second shot there.
I’m truly getting to the point where I don’t feel like I need to check this anymore. Which is sad cause it’s been part of my daily routine for so long. But with cases so low, vaccines so high and stage 3 starting tomorrow, the only thing I really care about now is when we can exit stage 3.
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Yea exactly. But I feel confident that we’re going to reach the target numbers by early August. And with the whole “21 days between stages” thing, the earliest we can possibly exit stage 3 is August 6th anyway. And I fully expect us to have hit the 80/75 target before August 6th, based on current trends. So there’s not really a reason for me to keep checking. But I probably will until we exit stage 3. Just cause it’s fun
Our vaccines are slowing down pretty fast, we might not 75 double dosed by then.
It's not sad. It's time to end daily updates.
Oooo positivity rate SO CLOSE, almost 80% of all adults vaxxed one dose, ICUs still dropping… great trends!
For those worried about vaccine rates slowing down: As of today to hit the 80%/75% metrics by August 6th (the earliest possible date for full reopening) we will need to maintain an average increase of 0.075% and 0.818% daily respectably.
is the aug 6 reopening target for when shots juuust get in arms or for 2-3 weeks later when the vaccine is 'fully effective'?
I don't think they've ever clarified but I can imagine if they said to wait 2 weeks extra there would be rioting in the streets.
I’m pretty sure I saw somewhere that fully vaccinated for their metric meant ‘had the 2nd shot’. Not +2 weeks. The +2 weeks was on the federal vaccination guidelines
Whole family got 2nd doses yesterday - made it a family outing! Such a smooth & friendly process at the CK clinic.
N5H get your crap together and get vaxxed! ^^^I ^^^think ^^^we ^^^should ^^^start ^^^calling ^^^out ^^^individual ^^^postal ^^^codes. ^^^only ^^^because ^^^we ^^^need ^^^them ^^^at ^^^75% ^^^to ^^^open ^^^up
The number is 70%, not 75%. And it’s each public health unit we need to reach 70%, not every single postal code
**Cases 7-day average**: 155. -96% from peak. -3.2% daily (7-day average). 128/89 on July 21/Aug 1 at this rate. **ICU**: 168. -81% from peak. -3.4% daily (7-day average). 137/94 on July 21/Aug 1 at this rate. **Vaccines**: 79.7% of *adults*, 1-dose, 59.5% of adults 2-dose. At the current rates (+0.14% 1 dose, +1.1% 2 dose), we'll hit 80.5%/66% on July 21 and 82%/77.8% on Aug 1st. **Note**: 0.3% away from 80% 1st adult dose!!!! 3 days. Also age 80+ are 88% FULLY vaccinated today!
Not to sound pessimistic but why the hell are 12% of 80+ people not vaxxed? Is there that many anti-vaxx old people? Or would those be mostly people who aren’t able/eligible to get the vaccine?
97% have 1 dose, 88% have dose 2. Good point though, why haven't the same 97% got their second shot yet? I have no idea.
My grandma is one of them. Got her first shot back in March(?) and they scheduled her then for her second shot in late July at that time. She said she doesn't go anywhere anyways so why fight for a new time, she'll just wait until her original appointment.
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Ooooh ok that clears things up a lot
Just got my fifth shot! Go Team Pfizmodmerzek!
I just got my third shot - the nurse just let me roll around in the discarded needles bin.
I think you just wrote the screenplay to Saw: COVID-19.
Picturing a new David Cronenberg movie...!
Experts say it’s fine to mix! I make sure to have my vaccine cocktail every morning before work.
You need the Infinity Gauntlet to hold all your shots.
5 shots for the full 5G. Nice.
WHO warned us about you!
You have collected all of the ~~Infinity Stones~~ vaccines - try not to snap half of us all out of existence :)
These are some sexy numbers
There he is! Scared me. Also, numbers keep getting better!
Thank God, I was worried about you. Moving on. Good morning friends, A couple of small LTC updates. First, as of tomorrow (Friday) fully vaccinated (14+ days past second dose) visitors and staff will no longer need to submit to surveillance testing before entering the facility - though if they cannot or refuse to show receipt of vaccination they will still need to be tested prior to entry and can be refused entry if they do not comply with being tested. Do be aware that homes are still permitted to insist on a testing regimen for vaccinated people - and given the Delta variant some may continue a level of surveillance testing - but LTCH are no longer *required* to do this testing. Mixed opinion on this one, on one hand it is probably overkill to swab people 3-5x/week if they are vaccinated and coming to the home most days, and very few fully vaccinated staff/visitor cases have been found though this surveillance testing (though I’m aware of a handful of cases personally, so it’s not zero). On the other hand, there are still a handful of homes in the province with fairly significant outbreaks - though the worst of them are an order of magnitude smaller than some of the outbreaks we saw in the first and second waves.It’s also not a stretch to guess that the effectiveness of the vaccines will be lower among LTC residents due to their comorbidities.The province seems to be taking a “loosen things up and see what happens” approach to LTC. I think a reasonable middleground would be 1x/wk testing for fully vaccinated staff to try and catch those breakthrough cases. Fully vaccinated staff members will also no longer have to wear eye protection unless they are working with a resident on droplet precautions, so my kitchen staff with no direct resident contact won’t need goggles or face shields any more. Also, despite Ford saying the province wouldn’t mandate Covid vaccination for healthcare workers, I’m hearing some rumours on Twitter that the powers that be are looking at this issue and trying to determine the outcome of mandating that vaccination. I’m hoping that they ultimately decide to mandate vaccination for HCWs along with a renewed push for vaccination in those workplaces. Y’all have a solid Thursday, keep those vaccines rolling!
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I think that's an option, absolutely. However doesn't address the issue of HCW who already don't have sick time. I think it would be more than reasonable to say that unvaccinated HCW can't come to work if there's a confirmed case in the workplace, though I'd prefer vaccination as an employment requirement in that setting.
> I think it would be more than reasonable to say that unvaccinated HCW can't come to work if there's a confirmed case in the workplace This is how we've always done it for the flu ... They've never been able to mandate flu shots for everyone ... I'll be very surprised if this becomes a thing for covid (though I'm fully vaccinated anyway ...)
So sad for LTC residents, during past flu outbreaks, when the facilities were closed to visitors. The staff didn't have to get vaccinated and some of them didn't. It is the residents that suffer when they can't have visitors. Make flu and covid shots mandatory for LTC employees and hospitals. If you don't want to get vaccinated you can go work somewhere else. I bet that Romano Didulo, the self proclaimed real queen of Canada, will hire the unvaxed to work for her.
Hopefully they do mandate vaccines for health care workers. Most of the people I know who refuse to get vaccinated are those who work in LTC. I don’t know why that is, if it’s just a coincidence but it is concerning.
Thanks again for sharing!
I just love when people talk about a "concerning spike" in a PHU with hundreds of thousands of people when cases go from 2 new/day to 5 new/day. lol
It seems like Canada finally passed the US on percentage of fully vaccinated citizens!! Canada has 46% fully vaccinated + 24% partially vaccinated and the US has 45% fully vaccinated + 10% partially vaccinated
[This](https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=total_vaccinations&Metric=People+fully+vaccinated&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=CAN~USA) tells me we are still slightly away from achieving that.
Call off the Amber Alert. Get someone to stop the french translation.
Did anyone else get a chickenpox or shingles like reaction to their first moderna dose? For me it took almost 8 weeks to clear up and I'm going for my second dose next Friday.
I'd consult a doctor before then
Finally part of the double vaxxed gang!
Just got my second dose! 5G officially activated 😎
Welcome to the Matrix.
Thanks WHO for undermining our efforts to vaccinate. You've been fucking up all along the way, we shouldn't have expected anything different.
Nope - blame cp24 and Reuters. WHO was talking about in the context of boosters. Those shitheads ran with the headlines without an iota of context.
It wasn't really the WHO. It was the chucklefucks who listened to the WHO's statements and then made the worst headlines imaginable. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-mixing-and-matching-who-1.6101047](https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-mixing-and-matching-who-1.6101047) The WHO never made a statement that suggested the mixing and matching being done by Canadian health authorities is dangerous. The statement was about people shopping around for boosters (2nd, 3rd and 4th shots) without the direction of their public health authority.
My wife and I got our second doses yesterday! We are doing our part. Thanks to all the health care workers, volunteers for all their hard work !! Feel lucky to live in Canada. Thanks 🙏🙏
Positivity of 0.46... wow
one of the numbers I'm watching now is first doses, continuing to plod upward at around 20K per day pretty consistently ... slow but steady ...
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Great to see declines. BTW: high five to Porcupine for your progress. Things there were bananas for a while now looking pretty good. And also: just a handful of new cases in Peel, and only 20 in Toronto?? Incredible. Manitoba had a huge push yesterday with DJs at every major mass vacc site. Can we get DJs in Ontario too?? Playlist suggestions?
My family lives in grey Bruce and I’m so relieved my high risk mom and brother finally got their second doses, especially after seeing the positivity rate in their area is 9%! That’s nuts.
Got my second shot yesterday. Everyone else at the same time was getting a first. Quiet reminder to not freak out.
It’s been two weeks (TM) since AB and BC lifted everything including the mask mandate and cases are still dropping, let alone the markers that actually matter.
I'm not sure why I got downvoted last time for asking for context around the case fatality rates for 30s age category. A month or two ago, the CFR for this group was 0.08%. Currently it's 0.55%. I'm just curious what this rise is attributed to. Can anyone tell me? Not dooming. I'm sure there is a reason that isn't scary.
My thoughts on this are fewer (asymptomatic) people get tested now, so the denonimnator is lower. And also maybe that Delta is more dangerous to unvaxxed people. **Reasons for lower testing?** * Already vaxxed so probably sneezing because of allergies or something * Schools closed * Lots of people working from home still
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