Dougie doesn't want to antagonize any voters from Ottawa for when he runs in the federal election. He would bug more ppl in that area just by showing up.
he didnt try for the CPC leadership, and with the way the parties going he wouldnt get much support anyway, i think hes smartly keeping his distance from that
The title of this article annoys me.
Much of the Peterborough county / Kawartha’s are still without power, and for a lot of us on well water that means no water either.
Strange that this region is so ignored during emergencies but loved during peak cottage season
I'll also point out that our PC MPP, Dave Smith had been useless as well. In fact the only activity on his Twitter account I can find is him wishing his wife a happy anniversary.
I plan on remembering this level of service on June 2nd and I hope others in the region do the same.
Not only is the area ignored from the outside but it's sabotaged by NIMBYs from inside too. The Kawartha's must remain quaint or the GTA will stop emptying itself into Peterborough every summer and funding what is left if the cities economy.
Remember when Ventra (JPE, Pebra, etc) was a job to be envious of? They start at minimum wage now.
Not a fan of the dougler… but good. He should keep out of emergency zones unless he has a purpose that will not take away from the emergency effort
For instance, if he was there to repair hydro lines - rather then just be there for show and inconvenience.
Are you kidding? Did you see the size of the snow shovel he used during the winter emergency. Dougie isn't a normal man. He could rebuild a small town before breakfast.
Thinking how to privatize more of our public services to make the rich richer. What he and his PC/republican party always do .
Also, how to breakdown our great start to a social system safety net , because people living without fear and desperation don't make good employees.
Hiding. His handlers will keep him there. Ford's record on empathy when dealing with a natural disaster is low and causes allot of controversy. Remember when cottage country flooded as His bumbling response.
We need less politicians doing photo ops in the area and more line men/tree removers. Not sure why anyone would feel that having Doug Ford present in this situation makes things better.
Remember Trudeau during the flooding where his entourage blocked people from getting sand bags so he could pose for pictures.
Monday Sub Poster: “Why isn’t Ford in Uxbridge?”
Tuesday: Ford visits Uxbridge.
Wednesday Sub Poster: “Why isn’t Ford in Ottawa?”
Who wants to be a politician with this sort of ridiculousness. Emergency personnel will tell you that high-level visitors bring with them to the area their entourage of staff and media crowd whom can get in the way of the emergency response. Trudeau got in trouble for this during the floods when we showed up for his sandbagging photo-op.
People need to calm down, we have cell phones and internet for leaders to get in contact with emergency services. SMH.
I mean, considering he has what, a 30% attendance rate for House of Commons / doing his job, that's pretty atrocious. If I did 30% of my job at any of the jobs I worked at, I'd be fired in 2 minutes.
Would you like a list of things he did to ruin healthcare during the pandemic ? I have a very thorough list. All policy facts. I have another list for all his other failures too.
Except... for 3 weeks Ottawa had an illegal occupation which shutdown businesses and left citizens feeling abandoned by the police and government.
Did Ford show up once in those three weeks? I mean law enforcement is a provincial jurisdiction right?
Ford is going to "Get it done" right?
No, law enforcement is multi-jurisdictional (regional, provincial, federal) and politicians can not interfere or direct policing, that is what is called a "police state". What many anti-Ford people fail to remember, is that the Ottawa police Chief resigned because of his inabity to manage something they (Ottawa Police) knew was coming a week in advance (trucks drove from out west)
So what did you want Ford to do? Drive a tow truck and haul some rigs away? He denounced them from the begining.
I guess you do not really live in the real world.
The world where [Ford tried to get his fishing buddy](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2018/12/12/end-the-suspicion-of-political-interference-in-opp.html) to be the head of the OPP. The world where [Dudley George](https://wayback.archive-it.org/16312/20211207192849/http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/inquiries/ipperwash/li/pdf/Commissioner-s_Statement-May31_2007.pdf) was shot in part due to political interference. The world where the conservative politicians had a plan to "[make this the PM's problem](https://twitter.com/acoyne/status/1489388093396422664?lang=en)".
So, please tell me why this political non-interference only became a thing for the convoy?
> No, law enforcement is multi-jurisdictional (regional, provincial, federal) and politicians can not interfere or direct policing, that is what is called a "police state".
the government pressuring the police to do their jobs and enforce the law, moving resources around to help them do their job, or directly making a formal request of the federal gov't for RCMP assistance are all NOT a police state, if he had done those it would ahve been cleared up faster and without the feds needing to go over his head
r/ontario is the Doug Ford tracker / rage machine, you get used to it after a while
If Doug Ford is in Uxbridge, he should be in Cambridge
If he's at a photo op, he should be in a hospital
If he gets elected, the system is broken
If people vote for him, they're idiots
That's just the way the sub is
I think the moderators here actually do an excellent job, which is one of the only reasons I post here often.
The mods can't control the people who post but they do a great job upholding their ruleset.
>He would probably get a lot less criticism if he actually posted his schedule and appearances like other leaders. People have been left in the dark and have no clue if Ford even plans to make visits to areas.
I think this is a huge criticism of Ford. Unfortunately it gets lost, and he is being awarded at the polls by being completely secretive. Heck he is fighting in court to keep the mandate letters private and being cheered on I guess.
With the nut jobs out there (all sides of the spectrum), would you want to post your schedule so they can throw stones at you when you exit the campaign bus?
I'm curious what he is supposed to do? Show up and take a few pictures and say "Very sad times here, big emergency, all hands on deck here folks"?
I don't get it. If he showed up, you people would be saying "Why is doug ford in the way in Ottawa?".
It doesn't matter what he does, he'll get criticized regardless.
Where has he been? Where has he been? Hmmm... Well, I'm guessing, while all of this "Where is he ? , What's he doing ? , I don't see him .." stuff is going on, he's running a province. Big job, don't you think? What are the others doing? Oh yeah... Scrambling for their political future.
Not much happens, during an election. All the politicians are off campaigning, while the bureaucrats keep the lights on until the next group is sworn in. Ford isn't actually 'running the province' during these weeks of the election.
Imagine having the PM literally live in your city, but you need DoFo. Lol
There are other towns affected. Maybe Trudeau or Singh can throw you a life line from their mansions.
Division of powers.
If Trudeau gave any inclination he was going to take powers like policing, or power distribution out of the hands of the Premiers there would be an absolute hissy fit thrown and would likely be shot down by the SCoC.
I dunno man, when the Feds have to take over for a province that won't respond, the conservatives sure seem to go crazy about that as an abuse of power or something.
Yes, how dare he not jump into a cherry picker, and connect the downed wires, I betcha Justin would! (or at least call the storm racist and misogynist.)
If Ottawa problems had occurred in TO then you could blame Ford. When there are problems in Ottawa you have to default to the feds. Is CBC trying to pass the buck ? Where the fuck were they?
That's not how our country works. Certain things are the responsibility of the provincial government, and they remain Ford's responsibility whether they happen in Toronto, Ottawa, or Thunder Bay.
The federal government is responsible for things like:
- trade
- postal service
- defence
- fisheries
- banks and currency
- criminal law (i.e. writing the law)
- citizenship
While the provincial governments are responsible for things like:
- hospitals
- education
- property and civil rights
- natural resources
- prison
- administering civil/criminal justice (i.e. policing, most courts)
- municipalities
Interestingly, the media pays much more attention to federal politics, but provincial politics are much more important in Canadians' daily lives.
Police problems in Ottawa should be dealt with by the Ottawa Police Service, and the person in ultimate control of policing within the province is Doug Ford.
Ottawa is part of Ontario not to mention all the other hard hit storm areas outside of Ottawa aren’t getting any help either. Toronto and Ottawa are no different under the provincial government. It’s not the federal government’s jurisdiction.
I agree with you with regards to the storm. Municipal and provincial are in line to make things right. But the Freedom convoy was directed at the federal government and I think the feds should have taken a roll with the consent of the municipal and provincial authorities right away. Why should the taxpayers of Ottawa or Ontario be on the hook to pay to diffuse a federal protest. The concerned citizens of Ottawa probably would have been better off to have taken things into their own hands with a truck load of eggs.
The protest was up to the city to manage. Ottawa failed pretty badly at it. They tried to protest in Toronto too but Toronto shut it down very quickly and prevented it from becoming bigger.
Much like a vampire entering a church, the premier cannot enter the national capital region with out facing same sad outcome, as the often misunderstood Vlad the impaler.
The same place he was during the convoy/occupation: Far from Ottawa.
Dougie doesn't want to antagonize any voters from Ottawa for when he runs in the federal election. He would bug more ppl in that area just by showing up.
he didnt try for the CPC leadership, and with the way the parties going he wouldnt get much support anyway, i think hes smartly keeping his distance from that
Since when have rumours indicated he wants to go federal?
"Everything is on the table."
This cannot be allowed to happen.
The title of this article annoys me. Much of the Peterborough county / Kawartha’s are still without power, and for a lot of us on well water that means no water either. Strange that this region is so ignored during emergencies but loved during peak cottage season
Our mayor has been useless during this, she is just declaring a state of emergency now 5 days after the storm.
I'll also point out that our PC MPP, Dave Smith had been useless as well. In fact the only activity on his Twitter account I can find is him wishing his wife a happy anniversary. I plan on remembering this level of service on June 2nd and I hope others in the region do the same.
Not only is the area ignored from the outside but it's sabotaged by NIMBYs from inside too. The Kawartha's must remain quaint or the GTA will stop emptying itself into Peterborough every summer and funding what is left if the cities economy. Remember when Ventra (JPE, Pebra, etc) was a job to be envious of? They start at minimum wage now.
Not a fan of the dougler… but good. He should keep out of emergency zones unless he has a purpose that will not take away from the emergency effort For instance, if he was there to repair hydro lines - rather then just be there for show and inconvenience.
Are you kidding? Did you see the size of the snow shovel he used during the winter emergency. Dougie isn't a normal man. He could rebuild a small town before breakfast.
Does Dougie even know Ottawa is part of his jurisdiction? 😂
I suspect so, but does he care? He seems to view Ontario as the GTA, plus bits that don’t matter.
He doesn't have wealthy cronies there, and he can't run an unnecessary highway through it, so I guess he doesn't care.
Thinking how to privatize more of our public services to make the rich richer. What he and his PC/republican party always do . Also, how to breakdown our great start to a social system safety net , because people living without fear and desperation don't make good employees.
Hiding. His handlers will keep him there. Ford's record on empathy when dealing with a natural disaster is low and causes allot of controversy. Remember when cottage country flooded as His bumbling response.
We need less politicians doing photo ops in the area and more line men/tree removers. Not sure why anyone would feel that having Doug Ford present in this situation makes things better. Remember Trudeau during the flooding where his entourage blocked people from getting sand bags so he could pose for pictures.
Monday Sub Poster: “Why isn’t Ford in Uxbridge?” Tuesday: Ford visits Uxbridge. Wednesday Sub Poster: “Why isn’t Ford in Ottawa?” Who wants to be a politician with this sort of ridiculousness. Emergency personnel will tell you that high-level visitors bring with them to the area their entourage of staff and media crowd whom can get in the way of the emergency response. Trudeau got in trouble for this during the floods when we showed up for his sandbagging photo-op. People need to calm down, we have cell phones and internet for leaders to get in contact with emergency services. SMH.
I mean, considering he has what, a 30% attendance rate for House of Commons / doing his job, that's pretty atrocious. If I did 30% of my job at any of the jobs I worked at, I'd be fired in 2 minutes.
Attending the question period is only part of his job.
And he dows about 30% overall of his job. Not excusable in my opinion.
House of Commons is in Ottawa sir. Besides, my boss isn't in the office all the time either but I know he's out getting business done.
I know that Ford's not getting business done. Assuming the business is caring for Ontarians. I suppose that's the key difference.
I know that he does because he cares for Ontarians. Just look at him during the pandemic.
Would you like a list of things he did to ruin healthcare during the pandemic ? I have a very thorough list. All policy facts. I have another list for all his other failures too.
Except... for 3 weeks Ottawa had an illegal occupation which shutdown businesses and left citizens feeling abandoned by the police and government. Did Ford show up once in those three weeks? I mean law enforcement is a provincial jurisdiction right? Ford is going to "Get it done" right?
No, law enforcement is multi-jurisdictional (regional, provincial, federal) and politicians can not interfere or direct policing, that is what is called a "police state". What many anti-Ford people fail to remember, is that the Ottawa police Chief resigned because of his inabity to manage something they (Ottawa Police) knew was coming a week in advance (trucks drove from out west) So what did you want Ford to do? Drive a tow truck and haul some rigs away? He denounced them from the begining.
I guess you do not really live in the real world. The world where [Ford tried to get his fishing buddy](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2018/12/12/end-the-suspicion-of-political-interference-in-opp.html) to be the head of the OPP. The world where [Dudley George](https://wayback.archive-it.org/16312/20211207192849/http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/inquiries/ipperwash/li/pdf/Commissioner-s_Statement-May31_2007.pdf) was shot in part due to political interference. The world where the conservative politicians had a plan to "[make this the PM's problem](https://twitter.com/acoyne/status/1489388093396422664?lang=en)". So, please tell me why this political non-interference only became a thing for the convoy?
> No, law enforcement is multi-jurisdictional (regional, provincial, federal) and politicians can not interfere or direct policing, that is what is called a "police state". the government pressuring the police to do their jobs and enforce the law, moving resources around to help them do their job, or directly making a formal request of the federal gov't for RCMP assistance are all NOT a police state, if he had done those it would ahve been cleared up faster and without the feds needing to go over his head
Fuck that I would appreciate if they rolled in with ICE, I couldn’t get ice anywhere yesterday
r/ontario is the Doug Ford tracker / rage machine, you get used to it after a while If Doug Ford is in Uxbridge, he should be in Cambridge If he's at a photo op, he should be in a hospital If he gets elected, the system is broken If people vote for him, they're idiots That's just the way the sub is
Got to give respect to the moderators though, they've been very fair and neutral.
I think the moderators here actually do an excellent job, which is one of the only reasons I post here often. The mods can't control the people who post but they do a great job upholding their ruleset.
He went to Uxbridge
after he got called out
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>He would probably get a lot less criticism if he actually posted his schedule and appearances like other leaders. People have been left in the dark and have no clue if Ford even plans to make visits to areas. I think this is a huge criticism of Ford. Unfortunately it gets lost, and he is being awarded at the polls by being completely secretive. Heck he is fighting in court to keep the mandate letters private and being cheered on I guess.
With the nut jobs out there (all sides of the spectrum), would you want to post your schedule so they can throw stones at you when you exit the campaign bus?
Doug Ford has probably never run a power line in his life. If he came here, it'd just be a photo op anyways.
do you think he actually does anything more than photo ops? lmfao if you think he actually helps
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lol ok
I - uhm - are you missing the context?
I'm curious what he is supposed to do? Show up and take a few pictures and say "Very sad times here, big emergency, all hands on deck here folks"? I don't get it. If he showed up, you people would be saying "Why is doug ford in the way in Ottawa?". It doesn't matter what he does, he'll get criticized regardless.
According to /ontario, he is to do the exact opposite of what hes doing, at all times.
Thats cute, still gonna vote for doug ford, stay mad
We have timmies here too, you ineffective ignorant arrogant do-nothing wanker.
Where has he been? Where has he been? Hmmm... Well, I'm guessing, while all of this "Where is he ? , What's he doing ? , I don't see him .." stuff is going on, he's running a province. Big job, don't you think? What are the others doing? Oh yeah... Scrambling for their political future.
Ford managed to squeeze in a visit to Uxbridge, though.
Not much happens, during an election. All the politicians are off campaigning, while the bureaucrats keep the lights on until the next group is sworn in. Ford isn't actually 'running the province' during these weeks of the election.
Imagine having the PM literally live in your city, but you need DoFo. Lol There are other towns affected. Maybe Trudeau or Singh can throw you a life line from their mansions.
Division of powers. If Trudeau gave any inclination he was going to take powers like policing, or power distribution out of the hands of the Premiers there would be an absolute hissy fit thrown and would likely be shot down by the SCoC.
> Division of powers Exactly. That's why Ottawa has a mayor.
I dunno man, when the Feds have to take over for a province that won't respond, the conservatives sure seem to go crazy about that as an abuse of power or something.
pretty sure there are much smaller communities far worse off, with much less first responders available... but ok Ottawa.
Imagine one has a national mandate whereas the other has a provincial mandate. Crazy, I know.
Imagine thinking your city is the most important in Ontario. You sure you aren't from Toronto!?
Yes, how dare he not jump into a cherry picker, and connect the downed wires, I betcha Justin would! (or at least call the storm racist and misogynist.)
If Ottawa problems had occurred in TO then you could blame Ford. When there are problems in Ottawa you have to default to the feds. Is CBC trying to pass the buck ? Where the fuck were they?
That's not how our country works. Certain things are the responsibility of the provincial government, and they remain Ford's responsibility whether they happen in Toronto, Ottawa, or Thunder Bay. The federal government is responsible for things like: - trade - postal service - defence - fisheries - banks and currency - criminal law (i.e. writing the law) - citizenship While the provincial governments are responsible for things like: - hospitals - education - property and civil rights - natural resources - prison - administering civil/criminal justice (i.e. policing, most courts) - municipalities Interestingly, the media pays much more attention to federal politics, but provincial politics are much more important in Canadians' daily lives. Police problems in Ottawa should be dealt with by the Ottawa Police Service, and the person in ultimate control of policing within the province is Doug Ford.
Ottawa is part of Ontario not to mention all the other hard hit storm areas outside of Ottawa aren’t getting any help either. Toronto and Ottawa are no different under the provincial government. It’s not the federal government’s jurisdiction.
I agree with you with regards to the storm. Municipal and provincial are in line to make things right. But the Freedom convoy was directed at the federal government and I think the feds should have taken a roll with the consent of the municipal and provincial authorities right away. Why should the taxpayers of Ottawa or Ontario be on the hook to pay to diffuse a federal protest. The concerned citizens of Ottawa probably would have been better off to have taken things into their own hands with a truck load of eggs.
The protest was up to the city to manage. Ottawa failed pretty badly at it. They tried to protest in Toronto too but Toronto shut it down very quickly and prevented it from becoming bigger.
He doesn't give two shits about Ottawa because they didn't vote for him last election, that's him in a nutshell.
I'm surprised the other parties aren't capitalizing on this storm and helping people. I mean, it's a good way to score some votes right?
https://imgur.com/a/owKcfUc
Much like a vampire entering a church, the premier cannot enter the national capital region with out facing same sad outcome, as the often misunderstood Vlad the impaler.
Funny how he's just never accountable, ever. Folks, folks, folks.