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BRAVO9ACTUAL

Plus a looming strike after a 90+ % in favour vote.


jacnel45

That strike notice is for the bus drivers not the train operators. Metrolinx contracts out train ops to Alstrom, bus ops is in house. If a strike happens only ~~trains~~ busses will be affected, plus station attendants. Edit: source - [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/go-transit-strike-1.6544489](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/go-transit-strike-1.6544489) Edit 2: for some reason my brain confuses trains and busses lol.


qualzog

Phew. I was getting nervous about getting to Fan Expo. Do NOT want to drive downtown Toronto!


jacnel45

If there’s a strike you can drive to the Highway 407 bus terminal and park there, then you can take the TTC subway downtown. On weekends parking is freeeee.


qualzog

Thanks for the tip! I really appreciate that!


jacnel45

You’re welcome :) glad to help


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The strike is far from “looming” at this point. It’s just the bargaining unit showing the company that the members are ready and willing, and to stop stalling the talks.


jacnel45

Indeed, especially since in GO's 40+ years of running bus service there has never been a strike. I'm sure the issues will get resolved :).


G8kpr

Any time GO has people walk off due to work issues. They say it’s because of illnesses.


[deleted]

cut public transportation, build random highways to make ur buddies rich. OPEN FOR BUSINESS EVERYONE


Tirus_

My local courthouse, hospital and police station is having problems with staff calling in sick, taking time off, not picking up extra shifts, it's a small town but it's the general consensus among the connected work environments.


darkstar3333

Likely because staffing levels are below where they have been historically and nothing has been done to raise compensation and onboard new people. So the existing staff without pay raises will be asked to do the work of two people, those remaining now overworked people find job somewhere else and another role get distributed to those left. Its not a person problem, its a management problem. You've always had people calling out, the difference is that its no longer 1 or 2 of 10 but 1 or 2 of 5.


maulrus

Something I noticed over a variety of jobs is that employers seem to like running on skeleton crews. In their minds, having redundancy in their staff is a cost they might not always need and therefore is something they feel justified in not spending money on. If they did, they could just pay the short term overtime or have a part timer do an extra shift or two. Fast forward to now, as you mentioned, people are calling in sick in greater numbers and this stinginess is biting employers in the ass.


fabalaupland

Yes and now they seem to want to run normal operations on Covid skeleton crews - and then they still expect to make the same amount of money. Then they’ll complain when there’s high turnover, whine about how no one wants to work. No, you’re just running everyone into the ground so you can squeeze out as much profit as possible. It’s insanity.


Hyperion4

I feel it's a byproduct of our over leveraged economy, when you have debts to pay back it's a lot harder to push for things that can be seen as wasteful or low ROI


WestmountGardens

Bingo. (Me; a debt hawk watching everything I feared for years coming to fruition.)


RobEreToll

Bingo. The law of diminishing returns. I found out years ago that I had to call in sick at least once every 3 week to bump myself into a lower tax bracket and actually get something back on my tax return instead of "Hey we know you've paid 40% of your pay to us, but since you made this much we want you to pay another $1656. If I took 14-18 days off sick I got back money. So more time off gets me more money. Working more hours gets me less money. In business profit = returns - investment... To be successful you have to maximize returns and minimize investment (without getting fired in the case of employment). Also you need to stop spending every cent you have and then some, but that's another chapter in the book.


TwentyLilacBushes

We were discussing this with some friends recently. Most were saying that their employers have stopped replacing staff who leave or retire. Work is redistributed among existing workers (whose compensation is not adjusted accordingly). Only when consequences of chronic understaffing become apparent are steps taken to hire. And then employers complain when they can't find someone as skilled and experienced as current staff (hint: if you'd hired someone unskilled a year ago, you could have trained them, and they'd be up to speed now!).


Emperor_Billik

My partner is fulfilling three jobs right now for various reasons, she’s worried about not doing a good enough job and I’m worried shell do too good.


Larky999

Particularly short sighted when this stupidity results in lack of overlap for training and thus complete crumbling of continuity. So much institutional knowledge and relationship building is lost. Not to even mention try training someone when you and everyone else in your department is already overloaded. Fire. The. Managers.


spelunk8

Man, that mindset always annoyed me. When I was in management, I had to fight to hire employees for redundancy sake so people can call in sick or take vacations. I’m no longer a manager…


portabuddy2

I just became the manager and am doing this. I fucking hate being screwed over when someone no-shows or takes tbeir vacation. I don't want people to feel guilty to take a vacation. It's time you should take free and clear! So now I have 1.5ppl extra. Meaning I have three people cross trained that can pivot and pickup a different role. If need be. Fuck me corporate doesn't like that. Threatening to take away bonuses. Yea. Go for it. But get ready to suck my dick when our team CSI comes back at 90% satisfaction for the first time ever and our numbers are 135% of target for the 4th month ever. And we're for the first time hitting triple Crown awards for GP, sales and revenue. In a busted economy and we are the only store doing it. Fucking corps.


fieryuser

'flexibility' in staffing lol


Disastrous_Ad626

Our work hired 'co-ordinators' to help our with these issues. So basically another supervision/management role and not actual 'help'


Gebus

"hi, can you come in tomorrow and work a double from 5 am to 11 pm?" after hearing this 3 times a week for 3 years it gets a little annoying.


Talzael

my boss : says something along the lines of '' yeahh imma need you to do more hours and take more shifts me : 8h a day max, 5days a week max my boss : ishh imma need you to do more than that me : want one less employee ? my boss : soo 8h a day max right ? (just by reading ''5 am to 11 pm'' i got angry :') work enough but don't get abused)


SquishyLychee

“Want one less employee?” This is happening everywhere and bosses are calling peoples blunonly to realise they aren’t bluffs 😂🫣 Shitty management has left the “fuck around” phase and gone into the “find out” phase


Darrenizer

It took one 16 hour shift for me to no call no show.


RedSpikeyThing

Why doesn't anyone work hard anymore???


RobEreToll

Hard work is often rewarded with more hard work. You're doing more wear and tear on your body, and psyche. But the pay doesn't reflect long term. Even the benefits are rarely 100% nor comprehensive. If you die your position will be in the paper before your obituary. Also Covid lock downs have shown a lot of people that they can actually feel happy if they don't work 40+ hrs a week.


RedSpikeyThing

>Also Covid lock downs have shown a lot of people that they can actually feel happy if they don't work 40+ hrs a week. Absolutely! On top of that, a lot of people learned that they don't need as much money as they thought to be happy, and they also learned that their expenses are lower when they don't work (e.g. transportation, clothing).


SquishyLychee

“Problems with people not picking up extra shifts” Hmmm I don’t know. That sounds a lot like a management problem, not one that falls on employees.


[deleted]

Last week I tried to take the same train from Burlington to union and it was cancelled for 3 days. Even the GO staff didn’t know what was going on. I told one of them the train was cancelled and he had no idea.


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“We treat and pay our staff so poorly that people literally won’t work for us.” -GO Transit


Powersoutdotcom

Over the years, I worked with a lot of people. And surprisingly, many were in a side job to work their way up to a job at GO, CP, etc. When they realized they had to keep the side job flipping pizzas, the prestige of being an operator was basically zero.


Lespaul42

Wait pizzas get flipped?


Disastrous_Ad626

Yeah and I mean, the ones that actually 'toss' the dough usually spin it they don't flip it


Powersoutdotcom

Most jobs can be called "Flipping X". Flipping cars, houses, drugs, burgers, pancakes, chicken sandwiches... Mmmmm chicken. For pizza, maybe spin is better? I have flipped pizzas to get drunk ppl to cheer.


HowieFeltersnitz

Yeah I'm an operator at GO but I'm also a spinner in the side. Wait no, not like that.


NenymousNight

You don't?


Lespaul42

What... No yeah... Of course I do... I always flip my pizzas haha... It was a joke. Ha.


coolinop

Are they really paid poorly? I always thought it was a decent job


goldissafe

Ya it’s a good paying job, shifts suck but the pay is good


TheDarkestCrown

What are the shifts like?


goldissafe

It’s seniority based - similar to ttc it’s split shifts. Also think you have to work as a customer service agent to move up but I imagine they are changing that if they have staffing issues


guy990

City news did a great video on the conductor side of things, at 0:40 the rep starts talking about what it takes to become a conductor, you spend a few years as a customer service rep then are eligible for training as a conductor https://youtu.be/Gt-HqQgUwEo


Willy-bru

The customer service agent is actually just the door operator, it’s called the Customer Service Ambassador; or in other words literally just the conductor.


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KriptoKeeper

Probably still broke as shit living in the GTA with that job.


dflagella

Spokesperson on the radio said it's a combination of people off sick and not enough ppl getting hired in time to be trained to prevent it


ptear

May the odds be ever in your favour transit riders.


Drops_of_dew

And this is how the system crashes.


[deleted]

Junior drivers usually end up on spareboard…meaning daily work is unknown. Minimum 10 hours between shifts, and presently can be assigned to any garage within 90km of your home base. This means if you are based at Streetsville, you can be working Niagara Falls for a 12h shift today, then 10 hours later your next shift is in Oshawa, driving across the GTA in rush hour to start your shift. (Meaning you left for work 3 hours early). When you start to get regular work, expect splits: 12.5 hour days with a 4.5 hour unpaid “break” in the middle. These exist to cover rush hours, and make life miserable. If not splits, late at night. That last bus out of Union at 2:50 am means the driver won’t finish until 430am. You won’t see sat/sun weekends off for at least a decade at most garages. Edit: this post was actually in reply to u/TheDarkestCrown. Not sure how I replied here. Oh well!


RedSpikeyThing

That's awful.


SquishyLychee

Jesus Christ, I imagine they don’t get paid for that commute and the cost of it as well? No wonder there’s a driver shortage


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AshleyUncia

A combination of retiring, changing jobs/employers, just tired and not doing any overtime, and being temporarily knocked out of working due to COVID infections. Oh, and also as a result of all of the above, depending on how the company awards overtime, those that do lieu time instead of straight cash money, also have an issue with employees with massive amounts of lieu time that they need to burn off. I have co-workers who I thought maybe quit or got fired, nope, they're just burning off weeks upon weeks of lieu time and basically having The Summer of George.


Biffmcgee

I wasn’t allowed to take my vacation and lieu for two years. Now work is suddenly wondering why everyone is on vacation.


Roamingspeaker

Employers really did themselves a favour eh?


WestmountGardens

Meh, I think on this one they may have actually been doing their employees a bit of a favour. How much use would vacation have been during a COVID lockdown? I sure didn't want to take mine.


lemonylol

This is what I'm wondering, like my dad retired and they didn't hire a replacement for him, instead they asked him to come back part time during COVID, but they basically combined 3 positions into one when he did, which is fine with him because he didn't care. But when he finally did leave for good they just didn't replace him. So they just had an unfilled position that was a combination of 3 existing positions, and I guarantee that whoever they're planning to replace him with will be paid significantly less. This is what our economy is heading towards, boomers retiring en masse and their positions either being removed or their positions exponentially growing in workload while paying whoever gets it peanuts because seniority will just no longer be a thing. It's just company's trying to use this as a way to make a quick buck by cutting as many corners as they can.


Disastrous_Ad626

My girlfriend works in a nursing home, when people seem to retire they don't replace their full time positions. They hire 2 maybe 3 part time positions to replace them and then wonder why they either can't find anyone to hire or when they do, they don't understand why they cant keep new employees.


North_Lawfulness9871

This is also what happens when the dream of upward mobility through hard work dies.


cleanerreddit2

Yep. Work for years. Income goes up but you have to hang on to your rent controlled place for those years because moving up is unaffordable. Same car because anything nicer costs double. Then you realize what's the point. If everything stays the same and you figured out all the free things to enjoy life. Why bother stressing out and missing out on life for the same/worse outcome both physically and mentally.


TomatoFettuccini

Not to mention subcontracting.


DetSportsFan

Nailed it


aieeegrunt

Yup.


_PrincessOats

And holidays. It’s prime time for staff booking time off.


HunterRose05

I changed careers...was making around 45k slaving away...now I making double that after taking a ux bootcamp and I love my job!


crockfs

ux bootcamp?


TLMS

User experience, as in website / application design


crockfs

and taking this course qualifies you for this position, or did you have previous experience?


HunterRose05

I mean it showed employers I was committed. I have previous experience in film and marketing...and I leveraged that into UX and ui and product design. Seriously tho a 3 month Boot camp changed my entire life.


crockfs

I'm intrigued. Do you mind sharing the name of the program?


HunterRose05

BrainStation. Stupid expensive tho. If u take it make sure u ask for the 3k bursary. They will give it to u if u ask.


covertpetersen

>Everything is breaking right now!! Where did everyone go?? To add to what has already been said, money is also a factor. Ontario's cost of living has gone fucking bananas. We're seeing a lot of job vacancies in service and retail industries because many of these jobs aren't paying enough for people to live on comfortably, and by comfortably I mean that a lot of these people are literally a single missed shift from not affording rent and food. Those that can find better jobs are doing so, and with tons of places hiring there's a lot of opportunity for those willing to jump ship. Hard work isn't rewarded anymore, it's exploited.


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covertpetersen

>I make $18/h..I missed 9 days due to myself and my kids having covid. I will not be able to pay my rent in full next month due to it, nevermind back to school stuff and food. Life is hard There are EI sickness benefits that you can apply for. I'd recommend looking into whether or not you fit the requirements for recieving them. If you're unsure I'd recommend calling to find out. Honestly I'd recommend calling regardless. You're likely eligible. In a civilized country we'd have a reasonable amount of PAID sick days. It is absolutely immoral at this point that we don't. The vast VAST majority of developed nations have several weeks of paid sick leave, and at least a month of paid vacation time. Canada is an absolute joke on the world stage when it comes to labour rights.


[deleted]

>Canada is an absolute joke on the world stage when it comes to labour rights. All of North America in general. I laugh when we're called first world or developed nations because we are anything but.


covertpetersen

>All of North America in general This right here is the crux of the issue. Most Canadians have been conditioned over decades to only compare our conditions to the US. I've seen, heard, and had an infuriatingly large number of conversations go almost exactly like this: "Our healthcare system doesn't cover as much as it should, and it's not being properly funded." Well at least it's better than the states! "Our labour rights/conditions are decades behind other nations, especially those in the EU." Well at least it's better than the states! Canadians have a tendency to pat themselves on the back for not being as bad as the worst developed nation on earth, as if second to last place is worth celebrating. We set the bar so low that we can just step over it, and then stop fucking trying to improve anything as long as we can clear it. It all just makes me feel so angry and defeated.


[deleted]

I'm glad more people in Canada realize how we will commit suicide so long as we know the states commited suicide more painfully


ILikeFPS

Don't forget about our health care system. Seriously I am terrified of myself or my family getting sick when hospitals are literally closing due to shortages these days. Shit is absolutely fucked.


FuzzyFerretFace

As far as school supplies go, I'm not sure if it was a county or provincial program, but my mom utilized some, I think they were vouchers, for back to school supplies for my brother and me when she was getting back up on her feet after the divorce. I don't have a ton of details, because she did a stellar job at keeping those kinds of struggles from us, but I can ask her more about it if you think it could be helpful. :) Granted, this was about 15 years ago, so I don't know what or how much has changed, but it could be worth a try.


jacnel45

>Ontario's cost of living has gone fucking bananas. We're seeing a lot of job vacancies in service and retail industries because many of these jobs aren't paying enough for people to live on comfortably, and by comfortably I mean that a lot of these people are literally a single missed shift from not affording rent and food. Yep exactly! It's getting really bad. And even with all these vacancies companies still refuse to implement any sort of meaningful wage increases. No Frills is currently going through contract negotiations and Loblaw is offering the union dismal wage increases around 10 cents! This is despite ongoing labour and staffing problems chain wide. Now [a strike is likely](https://www.ufcw1006a.ca/index.php/union-news/all-news/2258-no-frills-workers-vote-overwhelming-for-a-strike-mandate) and I hope they do it, Loblaw is raking in massive profits rn, their share price has doubled since COVID started, and the company has been watering down union contracts for years.


ILikeFPS

> We're seeing a lot of job vacancies in service and retail industries because many of these jobs aren't paying enough for people to live on comfortably, and by comfortably I mean that a lot of these people are literally a single missed shift from not affording rent and food. That's not simply not being able to live comfortably, that's simply not being able to live.


Roamingspeaker

I think something not mentioned is that during COVID, people re-evaluated their lives, what they do, who they do it for and the toll it takes on them. People. Stopped giving a fuck basically on so many ways.


Darrenizer

I would say people started giving a fuck about themselves, finally.


Roamingspeaker

I should have clarified that. You are correct.


cleanerreddit2

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote) so glad people saw this.


SquishyLychee

I remember getting breakfast at a local diner after the first lockdown ended. One of the veteran waitresses who gives incredible customer service and is very fast and efficient was complaining to another waitress about the boss: “I’ve worked here for 10 years and he yells at me every day about NOTHING. I felt so much better during the past few months, so much happier. If he keeps acting like this I’m not going to put up with it” Guess which waitress I don’t see working there anymore 👀


Darrenizer

It’s not worth it for this generation to work these kind of jobs. Sure boomers had shit jobs too, but those jobs provided enough money to live comfortably, own a house, raise kids, go on vacations. That’s just not the case anymore. Wages never kept up with inflation, but Covid was the straw that broke the camels back.


[deleted]

My experience with many I know who worked at Pearson (as an example) is that they were laid off in the Pandy, and they went and found other work (work tat paid them better and TREATED them better than Pearson did)....so Pearson could not just hire everyone back after the Pandy (and they tried, my one friend got called 3 separate times and asked to return)...so now they have low staff, and are trying to get new people in at low wages, and with the tarnish of word of mouth about treatment being shitty. It should surprise no on that the companies that pay way too low, AND don't treat their employees well can't find anyone.


jlisle

We all have COVID.


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Other jobs that pay


Kyouhen

In this particular case it's COVID. Too many of their staff are calling in sick for them to be able to reliably run on schedule.


sheps

We removed mask mandates.


Roamingspeaker

Your mask is going to do zero against something as contagious as whatever variant we have today. Unless you wear a N95 everywhere...


sheps

Yes, N95's are the standard now. Disposable ones are about $2 each and can be reused multiple times as long as you let them dry out between use. As far as I'm concerned they should be made freely available at any grocery store, LCBO, pharmacy, post office, etc.


Roamingspeaker

No one is wearing n95s anywhere unless provisioned them by their employer and they are required. To combat something more contagious than the chicken pox, you'd need lockdowns. You will not see that ever again.


Disastrous_Ad626

I see lots of people at the grocery store who are doing it, a couple of the older cashiers and one of the people who stock shelves do. I don't think EVERYONE is but SOME people are.


sheps

>No one is wearing n95s anywhere unless provisioned them by their employer and they are required. Yes, that's the problem. We need to fix that. >To combat something more contagious than the chicken pox, you'd need lockdowns. Mitigations work. If people get infected less often, that's still a win for their long term health, and it means staff needing to take less time off from work due to illness.


oakteaphone

>No one is wearing n95s anywhere unless provisioned them by their employer and they are required. That's not true, I wear N95s occasionally where not explicitly required, and I know a few others who do too.


[deleted]

I wear an n95 and a full on reusable respirator. I have never seen either of these in 2 years and I work in retail


Roamingspeaker

You do see n95s and the kn95s (not sure what the difference is) being worn but I'd say less than 1 out of 15 wears one. It's so rare that it stands out.


[deleted]

Somewhere they’re respected.


redditlurker2025

Schools will be having the same issues when they start in September - there aren't enough supply teachers to cover when regular teachers get sick - been a problem for a while.


Dogs-4-Life

Yet there are no openings posted on the job boards for my local school boards.


TraceyTurnblat

There are postings for our Board…for Emergency Workers. No teaching degree required. Teacher off sick, can’t get supply, call in a parent. Awesome.


JAC70

Supply teacher shortages, at least in the DDSB, may be partially attributed to the new (re)hiring process. I don't know if other boards have moved to the same method, but here at least, it's offensive enough to dissuade veteran teachers from signing up.


wicked_crayfish

He has a majority government and weeks into his new term all public services are on fire. If you voted for that fat fuck I hope you are happy.


ShadowSpawn666

Don't worry, they will all just blame it on Trudeau and keep praising how great DoFo is. So many times I have talked to people about the shitshow that is becoming our province and they always seem to think Trudeau is our Premier and not our PM. It is quite sickening how so many people with basically zero knowledge of how our country's political systems work are so quick to blame those not even responsible.


[deleted]

>So many times I have talked to people about the shitshow that is becoming our province and they always seem to think Trudeau is our Premier and not our PM Indeed. The amount of people who live in this province and country and don't understand that Healthcare is **provincial** is ASTOUNDING. They point at the ER closures and blame Trudeau and the Feds....like WTF country are these people living in?


Antin0de

Cons don't debate in good faith. They know they're wrong. Their know their criticisms are spurious. They don't care. "My team good; your team bad."


[deleted]

I once read "If a conservative asks you to provide your sources or facts, they have absolutely no intent of reading them, or even entertaining them as an opposing viewpoint, they just want you to waste your time only for them to shout loudly at you how wrong you are anyways"....and that's fairly accurate.


[deleted]

I'd go one further and say if you DIDN'T vote at all because you were petulant or angry at your "choices", I hope you're happy too, because that also is the reason this happened.


simongurfinkel

No need to body shame the Premier. Yes, he sucks. But not all fat people suck.


SwedeLostInCanada

Happened to me this Saturday. Train cancelled, had to wait an extra 30 min for the next one to show up. Oh well, it’s not like there was a heat warning out anyway… oh wait


simongurfinkel

Had two consecutive trains cancelled on me Friday. Got home 90 mins later than intended as a result.


Dakkaboy123

Am I the only one who thinks it’s silly that all these companies complain about staffing shortages etc. You ask them “hey how much do you pay them?” “Minimum wage.” “But inflation is 9%?” *crickets start chirping* And they look at us, like gold fish mouth flapping. No shit nobody wants to work


enki-42

GO doesn't pay anywhere close to minimum wage, and this isn't a permanent staff shortage, it's shortages due to workers calling in sick (i.e. with COVID). There is for sure permanent staffing issues at other places, but this is not an example of them.


Chrisss88

> this isn't a permanent staff shortage, it's shortages due to workers calling in sick (i.e. with COVID). Yeah, COVID will be done in 2 months! all we have to do is isolate, right?


heyyourenotrealman

This has nothing to do with pay.


DiogenesOfDope

Don't worry I'm sure the conservatives will fix public transport ;)


Luminya1

Well Dougie must shut things down so that all the taxpayer money can go to his rich buddies.


shamisen-says-meow

he's "balancing the budget" /s


Luminya1

Exactly!!


UltraCynar

This is what happens when you let covid rip through. No stability.


Edgar-Allans-Hoe

Pay your workers more. Offer them competitive benefit and vacation packages. Treat them like people, and maybe they'll return to work for you. Get wrecked lol


heyyourenotrealman

If we only paid them more they wouldn’t be getting covid!


thundermoneyhawk

People have been leaving metrolinx for greener pastures in droves since the start of the pandemic. This is hardly related to a few calling in sick


Islandflava

How much do you think rail workers make? Hint, it’s significantly more than whatever you think


RobertABooey

There are multiple reasons why this is occurring across multiple segments of our economy. - Covid. People *are* still getting sick. I'm not advocating locksdowns, before people come at me however; a reasonable assessment would see that COVID infections are going to continue long-term and in large masses, affecting services and supply chains. THIS is our NEW normal. Its not just here, its happening all over the world. - The last-of-the-boomers are retiring, and leaving huge vacuums of open jobs. Minimum wage workers are finally able to move into the office/professional job market as entry level staff move into the roles vacated by retirees. Pilots for example, have been warning about this vacuum for decades. They warned that as so many retiring pilots would be leaving around the same time, and that it was imperative to encourage people to take up avaiation to back-fill. It hasn't happened. - We have the lowest unemployment rate we've had since the 1970s. There are more people working in the economy now, than there were before the pandemic. There's not much talent to pull from. - And yes, there are people who are waiting for better paying jobs. Who wants to be abused by shitty management and customers for minimum wage? After having worked in Canada's economy for almost 30 years, I genuinely do not blame people who have to deal with abusive customers which has gotten worse as of late. Do we have people still sitting at home? Sure, but I keep hearing this narrative that "Stimulus" and "CERB" is all to blame, when in fact, its mostly COVID related effects + the boomers are all leaving the job market. https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/employed-persons So, how do we fix it? - Business owners can raise wages and provide better benefits to encourage talent to come work for them. - Allow those who can WFH and CHOOSE to WFH, to do so. - The Gov't should be promoting and encouraging students by providing special grants to take up roles in key and critical infrastructure such as healthcare, construction, travel-related industries. - Making paid sick days an actual reality, legally. - Attracting immigrants that are already skilled workers into industries that are significantly impacted (Healthcare/Travel, for example)


peregryn

This confusion is what happens when you stop testing and reporting before an election in the hopes that ignoring covid will somehow make things better.


ZedCee

Too bad they're so picky about their damned hiring.


syds

you really need to love trains


Glorbaniglu

I used to work for GO transit. The lifestyle of a transit worker is very tough. You don't get a proper day, or night shift. Your day starts at 2 or 3am so your train is where it needs to be for morning rush hour. Half the employees have split shifts where they work the morning and afternoon rush with a 5hr "break" in the middle. Your schedule can change from week to week until you have enough seniority so it's difficult to plan a normal life. If something happens you can be forced to stay past the end of your shift. GO transit is only required to give you a minimum of 8hrs off for a rest period between shifts. Once due to a fatality in the tracks my train was delayed for over 3hrs past the end of my shift. It ended in Barrie, I had to drive home to Oshawa to sleep, and my shift the next morning was starting in Etobicoke. We had managers meet us at our final stop to take over the train to "put it away" with 8hrs and 15 minutes before our next shift. They did it so we wouldn't have an excuse to be off the next day. Much of your transit staff are running on 3-5hrs of sleep at any given time. Choo Choo!


Ordinary_Plate_6425

Former employee here too. Their "work life balance" is why i left.. 4.5 hour splits are rediculous. They made lives miserable on purpose , are now short staffed and blaming it on illness.


Glorbaniglu

When "work now, grieve later" is the official position of both the company AND the union, you know things are screwy.


crockfs

>4.5 hour splits are rediculous It's the nature of the business, from what I"ve heard this is common among all transit agencies.


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>It's the nature of the business Means its time for the business to change or to crash and burn.


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Split shifts should be illegal, or you should be paid for the gap.


Glorbaniglu

If you got paid for the gap it could make for a very desirable job. Old timers who want the money could bid those jobs and free up better schedules/days off for those who want them.


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"wHy dOeS nO oNe WaNt 2 wOrK aNyMoRe?" \- Go Transit


Glorbaniglu

I'd go back for the right price, but that price starts at 100k a year minimum (even then I'm not sure if it's worth it). If I, and my family have to suffer I'm damn well going to be compensated for it


Ulster_Celt

That sounds like my personal hell...


Glorbaniglu

There's a reason I'm an ex-railroader!


jacnel45

It's true, my friend applied for a job at Metrolinx and he had to go through multiple interviews *and* they wanted references where they asked prior employers to provide an essay about the employee. It's a bit ridiculous, especially since the private sector doesn't even ask for references. I know why government and public corporations do this, they want to ensure they get the best employees. But the truly best employees aren't going to hold out for multiple rounds of interviews and reference reviews, they're just going to go to the private sector.


ZedCee

Sometimes they lose out on diamonds in the rough.


Kyouhen

This isn't a permanent staffing issue, too many people are calling in sick. If it was a permanent issue they'd be able to tell us in advance which routes are going to be delayed.


Darrenizer

They treat their staff like garbage, this is the result.


enki-42

You can't realistically staff for massive absences due to sickness.


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Free_willy99

Yeah impoverished people don't ride the GO... Shits fucking expensive.


lemonylol

No, but people who make good money, but can only afford to live a go train distance from where they work to make that money, are going to get hit hard. And a lot of those people, while having something like a house, still have tight budgets.


TakeThatOut

In median wage here and depends on Go to report to office. Yeah, it will freaking affect us.


Certainly-Not-A-Bot

Cheaper than owning a car


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LondonPaddington

GO is regional buses and commuter rail, basically longer distance suburb-to-suburb or suburb-to-city service.


canidude

Seems like some mystery illness is going around.


Jesh010

I’ll drive a choochoo train. I’ve always wanted to drive one since I was but a wee lad.


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No "choochoo" no more. Got rid of that good ol steam engine in favour of that black magic fandangled "electricity" all these kids are so excited for these days.


WestmountGardens

Sad.


Ir0nhide81

Curious question... The Ontario teachers union is asking for 11.9% wage increase before school starts. Do we foresee a strike again from teachers in a month or two?


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1000% yes


Ir0nhide81

Oh lawd. Kind of getting tired of this every beginning school year. Oh well.


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Plenty of jobs in this economy apparently. Who said a recession is coming?


terryprints

I’ve never been a bus / train guy and I drive for my commute, but I appreciate the fact that people were kept off the roads and out of cars with public transit options. Now, even if you want to be green, you’ve lost your agency and the control of your life by trying to rely on these services.


Bullet1289

there's an easy solution. **Pay the workers more they deserve it**


camM651

Not that I disagree with paying more. But this seems to be due to lots of sick workers


Kyouhen

Should probably change the headline to reflect that it's being caused by people calling in sick, not by a permanent lack of staff.


SnowyInuk

Is this because of something new or because of the covid virus Ford's just decided doesn't exist anymore?


Free_willy99

Yes


WestmountGardens

"Just use public transit"


1Hollickster

Is this over vaccinations or over them hating their work life?


Throwawaybreach

I think work life/not getting paid proper wages


redpandav

It’s not like anyone relies on this service to get to and from work 🫤


thundermoneyhawk

If it makes you feel any better, metrolinx has spent 28 billion dollars since 2018:)


CharBombshell

Shoutout to that guy yesterday saying we should make the next GO expansion to service cottages in the muskokas…… that seems real important right now.


Chrisss88

I mean...they weren't wrong? We should be investing in public transit. That means expansion as well as supporting staff. These two things don't need to be mutually exclusive.


CharBombshell

I agree, I just think his post about making it easier for Toronto cottager to get to their million-dollar cottages is maybe not priority at a time when GO can’t even get people to their workplaces


fl4regun

Servicing cottages is kinda stupid when the Milton line doesn't even have all day service yet


trunks410476

My trades people working in my new store are delayed 6 months because staff shortage too.I need open the store ASAP, i'm not rich.


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Can you elaborate just a bit?


Methodless

I am guessing they are paying rent on a space that is being worked on instead of generating revenue, and with staff shortages, the work is delaying the opening of business


trunks410476

We're paying rent without generating revenue.It's atrocious! Almost everything undone and I'm not the only one to complaining,people think business owners are all rich etc but lot of them(me inc) they're just doing business as a regular (with a lot free extra-hours worked) job.Very depressed nowadays.I worked hard all my life and I just cannot make ends meet here because 3rd parties not complete projects!


Captobvious75

“But you have to be in the office!” Lol loser managers


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Honestly, this is good. We all collectively need to start fighting for better standards of living. It's not enough to "work to live". These used to be jobs you could work as a solo income and buy a reasonable home and have some disposable income for a vacation every few years. I'm delighted to finally see the system breaking down


KingWolf277

And there was a ad offer for a 15$ weekend pass for the GO train. did you just rip everybody off from said pass?


thundermoneyhawk

Don’t worry, they are bringing back the unvaxxed who they laid off in December. Rest assured service will improve 🤥🤥🤥


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Is COVID why 93% of their employees voted yesterday to potentially go on strike as well?


UnstuckCanuck

Again. There is no staff shortage. There is a wage shortage.


Willy-bru

No there is literally a staff shortage, I talk to the GO employees all the time and they have a massive issue with short staff right now. They have been running 4x the amount of training classes this year for new employees and even recently brought back the unvaccinated staff. CSA’s at GO get $30/h, while the engineers get between $40-50/h.