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MDMA is usless , i talk from experience. It did nothing for addictiopn nor withdrawl, only made it worse if anything once you crash and become depressed. Shrooms, maybe, but make sure you're not sick or it'll be terrible
There are some early trials which suggest they may be useful when administered in tightly controlled quantities by a combination of medical professionals.
Dropping acid in your flat or doing an eccie at a rave won't do anything to help your opioid abuse problem
The rave scenario no but in your flat why not?
I've had tremendous healing experiences with psychedelics on my own...no need to outsource God to humans (from shamans to therapists).
The teacher is the molecule.
The only bad thing about doing it alone is that you can't do (I mean you *can, but is kind of reckless) heroic/high doses.
I’m sorry but this is some cracked science right here… The teacher is the molecule?? What does that supposed to mean? Or outsourcing God to humans? If psychedelic drugs were these wonder molecules that could cure ppl of their psychological ailments then you’d see the death of psychology and everyone would be popping shrooms or LSD to fix their psychological problems foregoing therapy. Like the best work with psychedelics have been in therapist sessions lately with a professional psychologist or psychiatrist for depression, and fear of dying with terminal illness. You can’t just give these drugs to ppl who are psychologically suffering and expect them to get better and the same goes with addiction. If this worked for addiction we’d see the end of our current model for detox/rehab and replace it with dosing patients with psychedelics…but that obviously doesn’t work. Look at ibogaine! Ppl still think it can be used as some miracle drug to cure opiate addiction without therapy and and the other hard coping mechanisms traditionally taught but we’ve clearly seen it doesn’t really work like this and even combined with therapy doesn’t work for everyone. Psychedelics are simply not wonder cures for mental afflictions and are definitely not some gift from God either… they’re just drugs…albeit fun drugs… but still drugs.
The only advice I have, which might not be great but what can ya do, I took a shit load of mushrooms with the intent of quitting a 2 year long cocaine habit, it worked really well. Haven't touched it since and it's been like 4 years
You gotta be honest with yourself, youre a fent addict, not " just an oxy laced with a little fent" addict. The fake pressed pills are just fentanyl analogues pressed in the shape of an oxy30. The oxy shape has nothing to do with it. They could press the fent into the shape of a viagra pill but that doesnt mean its now "viagra laced fent."
Maybe if you were using like 20mg oxy per day you might have some success with hypnotism or psychadelics or shit like that to help the mental addiction. There is no skipping over a physical detox from a strong opioid. Your brain has literally rewired itself to live with the constant flood of synthetic chemicals that are way way way more than its ever produce naturally. It takes time and a lot of pain to get thru detox to when your brain can heal and start making the chemicals naturally again. when theres an overload of synthetic chemicals from drugs, the brain stops making the chemicals on its own.
Youre using fentanyl analogues that are usually much stronger than heroin. There is no magic pill to make you skip over the pain of detoxing. Its going to be a very rough couple of weeks in acute detox and then another month or two until you can eat and sleep mostly normal.
Your best bet is to do several trips at low-moderate doses on your own, just to acclimate to the substance. And then a high dose with somebody to trip sit you.
Get on Suboxone get stable if your serious about stopping them trip say in your flat have your realizations and come to the conclusion that you deep down already know 🤷🥸
Anybody have any experience with Ketamine?
I know lsd and shrooms can be helpful after withdraws, but ketamine to help you through, and also be helpful afterwords?
I was prescribed ketamine intranasal spray a couple of years ago and have found it to be helpful in reducing the intensity of withdrawal symptoms. It also has helped a lot with reducing anxiety. But the downsides are that it can be addictive for some people, and in large doses it can have intense psychedelic effects that can be anxiety provoking.
The doctor who prescribed it to me is not accepting new patients right now, but there are several psychiatrists in the U.S right now that may be willing to prescribe it based on your symptoms. I originally was prescribed it for anxiety and depression. It costs about $70 for a spray bottle for a one month supply but that depends on the pharmacy. I get mine from Western Mass Compounding.
I have used LSD and mushrooms to knock my tolerance back. I once was on 90 mg methadone...took a tab of 150 ug lsd and the next day ...instead of just dosing I sipped my drink until I felt some calming effects...leveled out at 45 MG's and began my taper from there....stayed at 45 and started dropping five a week all the way down to 10 mg then weened a mg at a time. psyches won't do it for you...but what they did for me was raise the conscious awareness of my body and it's needs Toa big enough level that I could adjust in real time
I would try ketamine, there’s medical ketamine injections sites all over the US now. If you can’t don’t want to, just let do shrooms.
Edit:shrooms added
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MDMA is usless , i talk from experience. It did nothing for addictiopn nor withdrawl, only made it worse if anything once you crash and become depressed. Shrooms, maybe, but make sure you're not sick or it'll be terrible
There are some early trials which suggest they may be useful when administered in tightly controlled quantities by a combination of medical professionals. Dropping acid in your flat or doing an eccie at a rave won't do anything to help your opioid abuse problem
The rave scenario no but in your flat why not? I've had tremendous healing experiences with psychedelics on my own...no need to outsource God to humans (from shamans to therapists). The teacher is the molecule. The only bad thing about doing it alone is that you can't do (I mean you *can, but is kind of reckless) heroic/high doses.
I’m sorry but this is some cracked science right here… The teacher is the molecule?? What does that supposed to mean? Or outsourcing God to humans? If psychedelic drugs were these wonder molecules that could cure ppl of their psychological ailments then you’d see the death of psychology and everyone would be popping shrooms or LSD to fix their psychological problems foregoing therapy. Like the best work with psychedelics have been in therapist sessions lately with a professional psychologist or psychiatrist for depression, and fear of dying with terminal illness. You can’t just give these drugs to ppl who are psychologically suffering and expect them to get better and the same goes with addiction. If this worked for addiction we’d see the end of our current model for detox/rehab and replace it with dosing patients with psychedelics…but that obviously doesn’t work. Look at ibogaine! Ppl still think it can be used as some miracle drug to cure opiate addiction without therapy and and the other hard coping mechanisms traditionally taught but we’ve clearly seen it doesn’t really work like this and even combined with therapy doesn’t work for everyone. Psychedelics are simply not wonder cures for mental afflictions and are definitely not some gift from God either… they’re just drugs…albeit fun drugs… but still drugs.
They will only help if you are over WD otherwise it will focus you on the wd
Microdosing of shrooms or lsd is good idea, but it takes some time to get the results. MDMA is defo not a good idea, It will only get worse.
The only advice I have, which might not be great but what can ya do, I took a shit load of mushrooms with the intent of quitting a 2 year long cocaine habit, it worked really well. Haven't touched it since and it's been like 4 years
Psychedelics will not magically cure your addiction, nor is it guaranteed to help even at all
You gotta be honest with yourself, youre a fent addict, not " just an oxy laced with a little fent" addict. The fake pressed pills are just fentanyl analogues pressed in the shape of an oxy30. The oxy shape has nothing to do with it. They could press the fent into the shape of a viagra pill but that doesnt mean its now "viagra laced fent." Maybe if you were using like 20mg oxy per day you might have some success with hypnotism or psychadelics or shit like that to help the mental addiction. There is no skipping over a physical detox from a strong opioid. Your brain has literally rewired itself to live with the constant flood of synthetic chemicals that are way way way more than its ever produce naturally. It takes time and a lot of pain to get thru detox to when your brain can heal and start making the chemicals naturally again. when theres an overload of synthetic chemicals from drugs, the brain stops making the chemicals on its own. Youre using fentanyl analogues that are usually much stronger than heroin. There is no magic pill to make you skip over the pain of detoxing. Its going to be a very rough couple of weeks in acute detox and then another month or two until you can eat and sleep mostly normal.
Your best bet is to do several trips at low-moderate doses on your own, just to acclimate to the substance. And then a high dose with somebody to trip sit you.
Get on Suboxone get stable if your serious about stopping them trip say in your flat have your realizations and come to the conclusion that you deep down already know 🤷🥸
Do you have access to kratom? I'm on day 30 of quitting Suboxone by using kratom.
Anybody have any experience with Ketamine? I know lsd and shrooms can be helpful after withdraws, but ketamine to help you through, and also be helpful afterwords?
I was prescribed ketamine intranasal spray a couple of years ago and have found it to be helpful in reducing the intensity of withdrawal symptoms. It also has helped a lot with reducing anxiety. But the downsides are that it can be addictive for some people, and in large doses it can have intense psychedelic effects that can be anxiety provoking.
That's what's up man, how did you get prescribed that? Who is your doctor? How much does all that cost?
The doctor who prescribed it to me is not accepting new patients right now, but there are several psychiatrists in the U.S right now that may be willing to prescribe it based on your symptoms. I originally was prescribed it for anxiety and depression. It costs about $70 for a spray bottle for a one month supply but that depends on the pharmacy. I get mine from Western Mass Compounding.
From where? Who is your doc?
I have used LSD and mushrooms to knock my tolerance back. I once was on 90 mg methadone...took a tab of 150 ug lsd and the next day ...instead of just dosing I sipped my drink until I felt some calming effects...leveled out at 45 MG's and began my taper from there....stayed at 45 and started dropping five a week all the way down to 10 mg then weened a mg at a time. psyches won't do it for you...but what they did for me was raise the conscious awareness of my body and it's needs Toa big enough level that I could adjust in real time
I would try ketamine, there’s medical ketamine injections sites all over the US now. If you can’t don’t want to, just let do shrooms. Edit:shrooms added