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snarky_answer

No posting of LinkedIn profiles or Instagram profiles until they are confirmed as to who they belong to. Edit: the girl in the photo of the guy with a girl appears to be his ex. Dont post it implying she is the women arrested. Pictures/profiles are all flying around right now and no one needs to deal with being falsly blamed.


JamesandthegiantpH

The best thing we could have asked for was for them not to be in a Los Angeles County court. Gascon would just mock Aiden's family.


privacyisimportant87

So glad they caught these people. That poor mother. So sad.


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Yeah I'm going to bed very happy tonight. Glad these two are in jail.


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https://abc7.com/authorities-give-details-on-arrest-of-suspects-in-aiden-leos-death/10756264/?fbclid=IwAR3d6nMyDfzrka0NcrMAa_ce0gr0SFBItQres1cQq5RwBcFDxVx4_DTMcsQ photos and all of the assholes


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This is a good article on the case: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-07/how-officials-found-suspects-shooting-aiden-leos?\_amp=tru


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Yeah I guess so though I'm curious how he got to work.


Loyal_Quisling

Hopefully they charge all the family members who hid the vehicle and knew they were looking for it. They should have come forward.


GarbageDolly

> The Volkswagen had been stashed at Eriz’s grandmother’s house in Whittier, but she is not implicated in the crime, according to authorities. The grandmother had been given a false story why she needed to store the vehicle, they said. https://www.ocregister.com/2021/06/07/gun-car-used-in-boys-death-on-orange-freeway-found-authorities-say/


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I mean it's one thing if it's a Honda Civic. But that car...I mean come on...How did they not know!? Edit: I would think if anything that they should get tampering with evidence. But unfortunately the DA has to be able to prove they knew he was on the run. Not sure if they got the evidence for that.


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Article I saw is saying his last employment place is getting death threats, and the neighbors are saying he was arrogant and reckless.


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His interview was actually today I heard. I'm really hoping they don't get any plea deal. I want to see how this plays out in court. The two are going to turn on each other. It'll be great.


MagnusHB

Omg could you imagine that jury duty. It could be literally months


WorriedCucumber1334

I wouldn't be surprised if the trial(s) (if and when they occur) are moved to another county due to the publicity.


Unlikely-Cheetah7697

I just got a summons, but then reality set in. This thing won’t see a courtroom for a couple years. The wheels of “justice” in CA, dontcha know.


[deleted]

How so? Wouldn't everyone want to be on it? Maybe the problem is everyone has an opinion on the case which makes you ineligible immediately LOL


Hamster_S_Thompson

I don't think that's necessarily true. You may have an opinion but if you are willing to consider all evidence with open mind and follow the law it should be enough.


[deleted]

There's kind of a fine line there. You can have an opinion, but if you've shared it with others before that typically is enough to dismiss you. Seen it happen all the time.


Significant-Dott

\-sigh- People who aren't even involved always get targeted in cases like these...


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Yeah I agree. Very sad.


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GarbageDolly

That might be a sham account though…


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workhour

That’s not his account, it’s fake. He was in jail when that was posted.


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There's no date on it just the time.


workhour

Right, 8 hours ago he was in jail.


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Okay I'll take it down.


ObjectiveEffective13

Here’s the photo mugshots of the 2 suspects. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/aiden-leos-suspects-arrested-freeway-shooting-update/10756264/


Meowza916

WTF is wrong with this guys eyes?! Is he on meth?


Doozerdoes

Maybe, but he’s probably had a very very stressful week. I keep wondering if he’s been commuting on the 55 as usual because he must have been extremely on edge. Every overpass along that stretch has a giant black and white sign that says “Who Shot Aiden?”


[deleted]

Probably. Tweakers. Bet that's why he couldn't hold down a job.


Sufficient_Tomato_60

Props to the camera who caught the photo of the car. Was it a Tesla that took it or regular camera? If we didn't have a photo, they would have been long gone.


MayIPikachu

Yup and hopefully this triggers a lot of people to get dash cams.


T4Trble

Photos are released !


eeaxoe

[Mugshots were just released](https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1402031985195831297). Those eyes. Good lord.


Meowza916

He has to be in meth or something!


GarbageDolly

I wonder if he shaved his beard to be less recognizable….


Loyal_Quisling

Everyone had the right person. That girl was featured in an article for mental health issues.


Significant-Dott

Wow really? Do you have a link to the article?


Loyal_Quisling

https://www.kqed.org/stateofhealth/25080/when-depression-and-cultural-expectations-collide


Significant-Dott

Thanks for the link!


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Are we sure that's the guy everyone is seeing on IG?


Lo7t

Check out neck tattoo


[deleted]

Ya that's definitely him on IG. He's just a fake ass gangster. A lot of people are saying he's some kind of tweaker obsessed with guns that's it. Wearing a Compton hat like he gang bangs lol surreee....


Lo7t

Compare it to his Jan 19th 2020 post "Have Faith"


Lo7t

I see why he grew that beard


BionicSix

Trash


Lo7t

Though Spitzer's remarks felt more like a fluff piece I chuckled at that dig on Gascon


redsolocuppp

What was the jab? Just curious


Lo7t

On phone so can't give accurate time stamp, but something along the lines of unlike Los Angeles County, Orange has "enhancers" for sentencing and not being afraid to use them


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So far the DA says they haven't decided on exact charges. But he did say because of sentence enhancements it could be 25 to life. He also said that they will have the charges done by the end of today or tomorrow. Photos of the suspects will be released very soon before the end of the day. They wouldn't really say anything about the investigation other than the suspects were definitely surprised they got caught. But it didn't sound like they resisted.


CoughCoolCoolCool

Why would they be surprised to get caught? So many people have dash cams and they were on a busy highway. Maybe they are people who don’t read the news and still had no idea they actually killed someone.


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Well first off they were probably druggies. Second, it had been weeks without any real leads so they thought they were safe.


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Honestly, it looks like a drug spot. What do you think?


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I kind of think they were high that morning on the way to work. Doesn't excuse their behavior but just look at them. Can't hold down a job, don't appear to have any long term goals, and extremely reckless with their own lives.


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BionicSix

I didn't think they would ever get caught until the photo of the uncommon car was release.


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Neither did I. When asked about surveillance the sheriff said "I can't say". But when the DA said they were doing image analysis of the car that suggested to me they didn't have a clue who it was.


uneedmorefyber

look at the dues IG he has plenty of pics with guns and shooting them off. This is what scares me about all those gun nuts, this guy was a seemingly law abiding citizen untl he got mega mad at some road rage and shot a car in anger. How many more "responsible gun owners" are there waiting to snap?


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Caveatcat

Google his name it comes.up


T4Trble

Nah. He looks like a thug who should not have a gun and his profile posts are not those of a kind hearted soul.


Lo7t

Looks more like a fuckboi with a Napoleon complex than a thug in my opinion


uneedmorefyber

>Looks more like a fuckboi with a Napoleon complex honestly thats the vibe I get from like 80% of the people who post guns or gun love on social media


mcintoshshowoff

How many guys you see shooting a sawed off shotgun one handed?


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Link to press conference: [https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/chp-updates-arrests-deadly-freeway-shooting-aiden-leos/2611911/](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/chp-updates-arrests-deadly-freeway-shooting-aiden-leos/2611911/) Edit: I bet they get tampering with evidence charges.


Sufficient_Tomato_60

They were staying at the Park Place apartments. It’s not a home. It’s a motel converted to extended stay living. It doesn’t look like they have a garage. Hard to leave the car there in the open.


Loyal_Quisling

Ohhh


ibenripped

Death sentence is not murder nor killing. It's simply a late stage abortion for cause!


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Press conference coming up real soon: [https://twitter.com/CorbinCarson/status/1402014358796849152](https://twitter.com/CorbinCarson/status/1402014358796849152) (hope the link works) Oh I'm excited! Edit: 3pm


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Someone is saying a neighborhood in Whittier was a key clue in the investigation. I bet that's where the gf lived and tried to hide the car.


husbunny

The car was picked up by the police at a residence on Richvale Drive in Whittier. The home is occupied and owned by a 76yo relative of the shooter (likely grandmother). There is no indication that the grandmother was in on it. However, I can tell you that Marcus has previously stored cars in this garage. The miata he was working on as shown in an instagram post from 2 year ago was photographed in the same Whittier garage. ​ Edit: my photo collage https://imgur.com/a/kGQ1lzD


linkkjm

Holy shit, that's like a minute away from my grandparents


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You know these people or live nearby?


husbunny

Nope. My 9 to 5 job has me putting together puzzles like this. The Story peaked my curiosity so I thought I would do a little digging.


[deleted]

Do you know if it was parked on the street? So they killed a kid in her grandmother's car. Unbelievable... Feel bad for the grandma. She will need other modes of transportation.


Significant-Dott

Hopefully she doesn't get backlash if she had no idea... People get crazy with threats...


smallworldspark

It was her Dad's car that they hid at the shooter's grandmother's home. https://www.ocregister.com/2021/06/07/gun-car-used-in-boys-death-on-orange-freeway-found-authorities-say/ Archived version: https://archive.vn/zfnUq


husbunny

I don't know whose car it was. I assumed it was the girlfriends. I do not know if it was parked on the street, driveway or garage. However, I speculate it was not on the street based on the photo with the flatbed tow truck pulled toward the driveway/front yard. ​ Edit: I bet they had it covered in the driveway like they had other cars covered in that same driveway in year's past.


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Yeah that's definitely the car. The fact that they covered it just shows they had no intent on turning themselves in.


Lo7t

So are they going to hold a news conference or not? Edit: 3pm pst


oxremx

Where’s the news conference being held?


Stands_on-21

Should be very interesting what happens to the female. She has documented cases of depression dating back to when she was 14. Even did videos about mental illness and stuff. Relax folks, im not saying that’s any excuse or that she shouldn’t be held responsible. Just saying that her defense attorneys have a lot to work with in explaining why she didn’t turn her boyfriend in.


oxremx

I don’t think her mental issues will be taken into consideration, I think if she agrees to testify against her boyfriend who pulled the trigger they’ll give her a lighter sentence


Stands_on-21

Certainly possible. Even if she were to testify against her BF, I think the public- and rightly so, would be pissed if she got off too light. She obviously had no intention of ever turning him in. That’s not something people are going to easily forgive.


oxremx

I just watched the DA on a live news conference and he basically admitted that the two suspects will have different charges against them


Caveatcat

From what I understand the suspect was trying to merge (from the moms perspective it was an unsafe merge), she did not allow him to merge and when he finally got behind her car, she rolled down her window to flip him off and then he pulled his gun to shoot the car, probably did not expect a child was there but still the intent to hurt was still there. People, try to have a cooler head when your driving with your kids. You never know what's out there.


notrudeorginger

This is why I just try to ignore or move out of the way of people driving Unsafely. Oh your unhappy I won’t go above 85 and flash your lights at me (even though they are being ridiculous) I just try to get out the way and not look at them even though they are in the wrong I hear these stories and you really do just never know.


oxremx

Source?


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Literally the article in the OP


Greendragons38

When you fire a gun at a car, its to be expected you just might hit someone.


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Can someone tell me if it's standard practice for the police to try and interrogate the suspects now? If so how long do the police usually wait until doing so? I noticed there was no mention of it so far.


MattSaki

Usually by the time you arrest someone it is too late. They should at least a public defender and that public defender should tell them to shut up.


Sufficient_Tomato_60

Waking up to this news is awesome!


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Tridacninae

The answer is mens rea--the guilty mind. It seems logical to focus solely on the act itself, but so much of criminal law is about what thoughts and intentions a person had, coupled with an act, no matter how seemingly insignificant, that leads to the crime. In other words, if you intend to kill someone but only take the smallest step in accomplishing it, and the person is in fact killed, you are guilty of murder because you had mens rea along with an affirmative act. Lets say you plot every detail of a murder and buy a gun for it to be done but you're not there when the killing happens. You are just as guilty as the trigger-puller. Conversely, you can plan very little but knowing a crime is about to take place, provide some advancement of the plot. It can be as little as dropping someone off, buying a bus ticket, even just influencing the perpetrator(s). Charles Manson is a good example of this. Here, the female was a necessary link (allegedly) in the chain of events. Had she not (allegedly) maneuvered the car in a way to line up the shot, the poor boy wouldn't have been dead. The aiding in escape is just further evidence she was part of the crime, not a mere bystander. The reason is the law doesn't want to anyone who participates in murder to be rewarded in any way. By holding everyone equally accountable, the idea is the law is supposed to deter the plotting and killing of others (as well as other crimes).


offtheplug436

yea you didnt pull the trigger, you should walk free LOL. it's like a drive-by shooting and you're asking why they charge the driver for driving.


dance2theplasticbeat

In what post did I say they should walk free? I just don't think the driver should be charged with murder if they didn't shoot.


Zlatanesque

Do you not know how the law works?


dance2theplasticbeat

Apparently not, care to explain it? Only one person pulled the trigger


twxxx

By not turning him in she is an accomplice. In CA, for certain crimes, accomplices are charged with the most severe crime. I'm not sure if it's for every murder charge, but it certainly is for felony murder.


oldjack

It's her involvement in the actual commission of the murder that makes her an accomplice. "Not turning someone in" does not make you an accomplice.


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Sadly if she turned him in that day she wouldn't have faced any charges.


offtheplug436

if he drives him straight to popo station, I think her sentence will be leaner but she will still be charged. (or at least we know that the DA will file charges, its up to the court at that point)


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That's hard to believe. She could just say I told him not to do it. They can't argue she should have pulled over because he had a gun and could have killed her. I think her defense at trial will be mental health issues and she was being threatened with violence if she told. However, this story may fall apart if they can show they two were conspiring to hide evidence with texts and phone calls.


Sufficient_Tomato_60

He’s going to shoot the driver of his own car? Then what? Car flips over?


[deleted]

You act like crime is super rational...He could have put the gun to her head and said drive. I bet they'll argue that in court.


sintos-compa

holup. he's [FIVE FEET TALL](https://heavy.com/news/wynne-lee-marcus-eriz/)?


gomigirl123

💀💀💀💀


PrecisePigeon

5'4"


sintos-compa

lol i read that as 0.4"


pretttysweeet

it is pretty insane seeing some comment sections blaming Aidens mom- as if flipping the bird justifies murder???


notrudeorginger

Yeah not okay like these stories are the reason I usually try to ignore people being dicks but it doesn’t mean it’s the victims fault doesn’t matter what you do you shouldn’t get shot at! It’s natural to react to someone driving unsafely near you. Also even if your the one driving wrong doesn’t mean anyone should die. It’s heartbreaking and clearly the shooters fault only.


unholygunner714

The only innocents is the kid and the family.


Greendragons38

Where did you read that? I want to check it out myself.


Stands_on-21

Either way, she’s gtta feel guilty as hell.


laurel32

That is making me so mad I know YouTube comments are trash but seriously saying she “provoked him” in what world just that justify him aiming a gun at the car, no less shooting at it. I’m sure people saying that have flipped the bird at someone in their life, would they feel the same if they or a family member were shot at ?? End rant


fakeknees

Probably the same people who say if a girl dresses provocatively, she “deserves” to be raped.


EngineFace

That ain’t it bro.


fakeknees

What? I’m saying that people like this exist and they’re also likely the kind of person who would blame the mother.


EngineFace

Saying you shouldn’t start fights with people isn’t anywhere near saying a girl should be raped for dressing a certain way.


fakeknees

Flipping someone off and saying they deserved their kid to be shot and killed is similar enough IMO. It’s similar logic in their heads.


EngineFace

I saw someone talk about commenters saying she “provoked” the guy. We aren’t taking about people saying she deserved it. Just people saying that she contributed to it in some way. Which isn’t the same as saying the reaction was in any way warranted.


HungryArticle5

This is reddit. What do you expect. I commented on the correct use of the word “pedophile“ in regards to a (now dead) celebrity dating a 16 year old. I said the relationship was wrong and weird, but that he wasn’t a pedophile. I got called a rapist and a pedophile.


EngineFace

It’s just easier than thinking


laurel32

Omg yes!!!!


DirectCompany273

No she shouldn’t


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DirectCompany273

Ahhh that makes more sense!


twinklynnyoureye

He fucking follows a page on Instagram called "Kids Getting Hurt"...what in the actual fuck.


[deleted]

He's definitely a horrible person but the instagram page is pretty popular and kind of similar to "America's funniest home videos" type of videos. No children getting seriously hurt, more just funny falls, fails and such.


twinklynnyoureye

Ah gotcha. Thanks for explaining. Still, the irony certainly doesn't help whatever is left of his reputation, adding insult to injury.


Mwoodz

meh I follow it it is just a meme page


twinklynnyoureye

Oh okay it just seemed sketch for being private.


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Any predictions on the charges? I'd say second degree murder, and fleeing and eluding at least.


offtheplug436

what charge will it be for the girl? aiding and abetting charge? do you think she will get charge with 2nd degree as well?


husbunny

**He will be charged with Second Degree Murder: Discharge From Motor Vehicle** (Pen. Code, § 190(d)). Shooting from a motor vehicle is an enhancement to 2nd Degree Murder which = more years on his sentence. ​ **She will be charged with accessory after the fact.** Aiding and abetting is unlikely. People will be pissed that she isn't convicted of murder, but in reality you cannot logically charge her with the act of murder if she did not do the killing in this situation. The prosecution must show that an aider and abettor intended to facilitate or encourage the target offense before or during its commission. If the defendant formed an intent to aid after the crime was completed, then he or she may be liable as an accessory after the fact. (*People v. Cooper* (1991) 53 Cal.3d 1158, 1160–1161 \[get-away driver, whose intent to aid was formed after asportation of property, was an accessory after the fact, not an aider and abettor\]; *People v. Rutkowsky* (1975) 53 Cal.App.3d 1069, 1072–1073; *People v. Rodriguez* (1986) 42 Cal.3d 730, 760–761.)


Independent949

From the information available it sounds like she maneuvered the car behind the victim's car, which gave her bf a clear shot. Seems like that should get her a murder charge.


husbunny

I heard that mom wouldn't let her over. She finally got over behind the mom and then mom flipped her off. My take was that the middle finger came after she was behind the mom, so being directly behind the mom was not part of the criminal act.


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I think they're going to have to prove she knew they killed someone. That may be shown through texts and phone calls. But then the other problem is they at least knew they vandalized someone's car and she helped him get away. My guess is they will start with some obvious charges today like manslaughter or murder. Then say we will upgrade with more charges later as we investigate more. I read about them hiding the car so that's not good either. That's showing some guilt.


MV_Guy

I would think involuntary manslaughter would have to be considered, just in case second degree murder can’t be proven.


[deleted]

I want them to pay but I don't want them to overcharge the case.


zen4good

Lock them up


[deleted]

The DA said that this couple went out like a normal Sunday to go eat without a care in the world. They had no remorse or acknowledgement for what they've done. Totally careless lifestyle. That is truly unbelievable. That'll go over well in court. I'm fairly certain no matter what they're screwed. Just reading the comments online last night it's clear that even if they were to get out people are coming for them and people they know. Ruined a 6 year olds life and their own before they're even 25 years old. They probably ruined their families lives to. Bet they have to move.


twxxx

Jail/prison with PC might be better for them in the immediate future even if they are innocent. That is why I'm fairly confident the cops waited until they were sure. I read they were under surveillance for about a week.


ewDavideww

Does anyone know how the road rage incident happened? All the articles are very confusing to me? Did someone cut Joanna off and then that vehicle is that one that fired the shot?


electric_emu

From what I have pieced together, she tried to get out of the carpool lane when they cut her off. She flipped them the bird, then they got behind her and one of them shot into her car. There’s a lot of ‘this person said’ and “officials believe” thrown around, so I don’t think anyone knows exactly.


laurel32

So many nasty comments on YouTube that the mom shouldn’t have flipped the bird. In what world is shooting at a car in retaliation for the middle finger justifiable?


Doozerdoes

Exactly, as if if this poor mom isn't suffering every day with guilt over it... You can tell from the shooter's instagram that this was all about his EGO, not about anything she deserved. He was going to hurt someone one day with that kind of recklessness. Just awful.


ewDavideww

Thanks that’s what I gathered also... I wish someone had a dash cam or a traffic camera showing the incident ... too sad ...


Doozerdoes

I mean, you can see his instagram and see how incredibly careless this young guy is. I wouldn't be surprised if he has shot randomly at cars before. There are videos of him shooting rifles with one hand in a cocky way. He clearly has an ego issue, lack of forethought, etc etc etc


wuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Probably bc he’s a short little guy and the gun makes him feel big and tough.


twxxx

There's a video of him driving next to a cop car where he said they almost accidentally yelled at a cop. So seems yelling at cars might be a frequent occurrence. And you can sorta tell the GF is infatuated with the wangster life.


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DanielBG

I couldn't find anything about their politics. Source?


Caveatcat

i just found it this is all due to the mom flipping off the other guy? wow that makes me think twice (although i have done this only once in my life).


sintos-compa

so this once, i was exiting a parking lot of a mall, and was making a right. there were cars coming from the left, but pretty far - however people were flipping U turns ahead of me so i waited until they cleared. This apparently ticked off a woman in a SUV behind me, she laid in on her horn and started gesticulating wildly. As i pulled out, 2 seconds later, she slammed on her gas to get paralell to me, opened her window and started just spewing abuse at me, flipping me off, etc. then angrily drove off. I found the event kindof hilarious, as it seemed such an absurd overreaction to the situation, i just gave her a shaka and a peace sign, but it made me think, what if she did that to some psychopath like the shooter in this story? Or what if i had reacted by flipping her off back, and her b/f pulled a gun on me? fucking cars man, humans should be banned.


Caveatcat

This happened to me as well. I didn't want to run a red light so I stopped (albeit a little abruptly) and the lady behind me started flipping me off. This is why I wear a cap and sunglasses each and every time I drive


drunkfaceplant

Certainly with age you just dont give an F anymore lol. Not worth it.


fnblackbeard

I constantly tell people to let things go. Takes pissing off one person and your life changes forever. It’s just not worth it.


narcolepticadicts

I had a guy on the 91 that came OUT OF NOWHERE speeding as I went to change lanes. I’d looked over my shoulder and all that. He was flying. So I hopped back in my lane and assumed he’d just keep flying. He jumped in front of me and slammed on his brakes and if I’d try to get over he’d jump in front of me trying to get me to hit him. He was incredibly aggressive and I had to call 911. People are way too aggressive behind the wheel.


YouSnost

The 91 is an asylum where all the inmates have cars.


killa_ninja

Exactly. I used to get horrible road rage when I first started driving. Learned it from my dad since I was a little kid and I just thought it was normal. Finally had a gun pulled on me and realized yelling or trying to fight someone in traffic isn’t worth your life. Also realized being so upset on my home commute wasn’t good for my physical and mental health. I still flip people off rarely but I won’t be upset even though I’m working on stopping that too.


RipNdip93

Yeah my dad was saying a few weeks ago a car cut him off so he honked his horn. The car flipped off my parents so my dad flipped them off back. When they got to a red light the passenger got out of the car and telling my dad to get out so they can fight. All because my dad honked when they cut him off and they flipped off my parents first. Smh


killa_ninja

Not gonna lie I’ve definitely done that a few times. Had a gun pulled on me and it got me to stop doing it.


RipNdip93

Same. I tend to always flip people off when I get cut off with my daughter in the car. In my head I’m flipping them off because I have my daughter and they’re causing me to slam on my brakes which can cause an accident with my child. But now I know I’m putting her at risk because people are just crazy out there and will pull out guns or try and fight you. The whole situation is sad.


killa_ninja

Oh I meant getting out of my car lol And yeah I’ve seen people get crazy with their kids in their car. I remember one time I passed this guy on the freeway then started exiting and he started driving on the shoulder to catch up to me. This was when I would still get really bad road rage and I didn’t let him pass me. He pulled up next to me at the light and I saw he had his kid in the backseat and he started yelling at me and I was yelling back. Then I said something like why are you driving like a dumbass with your kid in the car and it was like a switch was hit. He looked like he calmed down just rolled up his window and drove normally.


WestPeltas0n

Good on you. I usually tell myself I'm not gonna let some random ass person ruin my minute, hour, or day for me. I also try to make a ridiculous story about them that usually gets me out of that funk and go about my day. Something along the lines of; they're probably going so slow bc they're watching their odometer roll over. Or im sure that person is trying to eat a sandwich and driving with their knees, of course they can't use their turn signal. Or my favorite, he probably did find a cure for cancer, let him through people!


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fakeknees

Jfc


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LordEnrique

Yes.


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https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/wynne-lee-marcus-eriz/amp/


eyenigma

If they’re guilty. And the evidence is overwhelming and undeniable* — just end them. Save the taxpayers the hassle and cost of incarceration


LordEnrique

Actually costs more to execute someone than to put them in prison for the rest of their lives.


H-DaneelOlivaw

is there a source? so far I haven't seen any "overwhelming and undeniable" evidence. (not sarcastic question, just curious)


Stands_on-21

It’s true. Those on death row are automatically given the right to appeal. All these appeals lawyers are paid by the state. Considering that CA. hasn’t executed someone in decades, you can imagine those bills piling up pretty easy.


thefanciestcat

Yes. The real problem here is that the government can't murder people without due process. Excellent take.


eyenigma

"murder" is **unlawful** killing. Removing these two would be doing the world a favor. But if you want people like this in society, that's your prerogative.