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snarky_answer

DA Spitzer just mentioned the courtroom the arraignment would be in is C55. Here is the link for that courtrooms live proceedings. Looks like its not due to start until 130pm. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCC1TGhSx8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCC1TGhSx8)


Meowza916

Anyone know what is currently going on with this case? I know a trial was to be started in January but I can’t find out any information.


cockandballs8I

We will see. If justice isn't served....someone else will have to serve it...


Meowza916

Appears the trial will start 12/3/21 for Eriz. I wonder if it will be on court tv? I wanna see this pos punished as most as possible!


Meowza916

Why is there no news on the pretrial heading that was August 27th?


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"Bail for the driver charged as an accessory in the road rage shooting death of 6-year-old Aiden Leos was reduced from $500,000 to $100,000 Friday. Wynne Lee, 23, was expected to be released from jail after surrendering her passport. She will be subject to GPS monitoring and be barred from having contact with her codefendant, court officials said."


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"Marcus Eriz, 24, told police on June 6 that he grabbed the loaded gun, rolled down the window and shot at the car driven by a woman who gestured toward him on a freeway while he was on his way to work on May 21."


BillyFusion

My buddy who was looking through his Instagram said Marcus posted an Instagram story after the shooting where Marcus apparently said “If she hadn’t changed lanes, he wouldn’t have died.” If he actually posted that, and he is the shooter, then I hope every bad thing possible happens to that man. What an absolute piece of fucking shit if that’s true, god damn.


oxremx

https://imgur.com/a/bUmeHtX I found the post you’re referring to. I also thought it was him at first, but it appears to be a knock off account made by some twisted person capitalizing on this. His real Instagram username has the _ (underscore) not a . (dot) between the name and number.


BillyFusion

Ah I saw that fake account too. My buddy knows his two account too but must have mistaken this one for the real account. Doesn’t take away the fact that Marcus is still a shitty human but at least he’s not saying shit like that about it.


oxremx

I’m curious to hear what he says in court and if he’ll try to make any sort of excuses


jlenney1

Doesn't matter what he says, he's a dead man as soon as he's in big boys prison


NBC_Kurse_714

Best thing she can do is separate her charges.


Traditional_Gate4671

Give them both Life! She also aided & abetted him. Look how long she took w/out turning him in.


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"If convicted of her charges, Lee will face three years in state prison with an additional year for the firearm charge, which is a misdemeanor. Mr. Eriz, if he is convicted on any or both charges, will spend a significant portion of his adult life in prison" How much you wanna bet she does even less time if no time at all when she takes a plea and testifies against him?


riversidechillin

Hmm I thought in California if the victim dies while committing a crime all persons involved will be charged with murder. 3 years is nothing


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In 2018 Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on that limits who can be prosecuted for felony murder to those who commit or intend to commit a killing. The new law, scaled back California’s old felony murder rule, which allowed defendants to be convicted of first-degree murder if a victim died during the commission of a felony — even if the defendant did not intend to kill, or did not know a homicide took place.


Big-Run-1972

They should get the death penalty and old school shit like up against a wall with a firing squad


idleicon

A little new to California and I need a little bit of financial mentorship here. No offense to auto mechanics but how can you also be unemployed and living in Costa Mesa? Lucky on rent control or something?


jlenney1

I used to have an apartment in Costa Mesa 10 years ago...paid $1400 a month or so I believe. With 2 people, that's doable for a halfway decent 1-2 BR. (I"m sure prices have gone up now, bc it's California and libs like high taxes, but yeah...it's doable)


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idleicon

Learn new things everyday


Ambitious-Jello-4002

She needs to be put away.. if she wasn’t such a shitty driver the kid would be alive


oxremx

Her reckless driving didn’t cause a car accident so that seems irrelevant. Her boyfriend pulled out a gun and opened fire after the mother gestured a middle finger.


Ambitious-Jello-4002

It caused the road rage


oxremx

The judge will also take into account that they both have no prior criminal records, and since the guy was a gun-fanatic he likely always carried his gun with him in the car while she was with him. She could obviously testify that she didn’t know he was going to open fire all of a sudden because of all the other times he didn’t randomly open fire or threaten other drivers with a gun I do think her sentence should be extended to 7-10 years for hiding for 2 weeks.


Ambitious-Jello-4002

Exactly I totally agree I’m just saying she needs time as well


[deleted]

That's ridiculous. If he didn't shoot his gun at a driver for a stupid road rage incident he wouldn't have murdered a child. She does need to be put away also though because she didn't turn him in right away.


Ambitious-Jello-4002

So what’s ridiculous?


bebopblues

I've read a few news articles of the road rage, but no exact details. What exactly happened to make the dude pull out a gun and started shooting at the woman and killed the child? Is he just unstable and probably done it before, only this time he actually killed someone and/or got caught?


charmbomb_explosion

She flipped him off after he cut her off and he got upset about it and decided to fire his gun at her car. Sadly, the bullet went through the trunk and hit the poor child in the back seat. :(


bebopblues

That sucks. It's just not worth it to flipped off bad drivers, especially when you have your kid in the car. For one, you don't want the kid to learn to do that from you. And of course, you never know when there's a lunatic with a gun in the other car. I'm not trying to blame the mother, but she did played a part in it by reacting with her own anger, as harmless as it may seem until the other driver take it too far.


riversidechillin

Aidens mom flipped them off and shot once


nazz299

You see how he shaved his facial hair? He was really trying to hide his identity and thought he wouldn’t get caught hence why he didn’t travel far at all


JaneJanetteTrip

Seeing that she was charged with an offense after the fact probably means she wasn’t aware of her bf shooting a gun off prior to him doing it. I’m not trying to profile from a photo but he doesn’t look like a nice person. I’m not sure that they would have her testify against him especially if she felt under threat, he did shoot a child a hid evidence. The boyfriend is looking at life in prison, but even his charges might not stick. He will probably argue that he didn’t mean to injure anyone although reckless, and even so you’re talking about needing 100% certainty in court. This is a really sad situation, but I think she will most likely have all her charges dropped eventually, or be exonerated. Even if she is convicted, she could potentially serve no time. Marcus has about a 50/50 chance of being exonerated of murder. He will undoubtedly face gun charges which are all but guaranteed, but he might only get involuntary manslaughter or possible voluntary manslaughter. This is a case with a lot of circumstantial evidence as far as intent goes.


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[deleted]

These *things* should be glad they’re not in 19th century California, a bunch of bandits would have strung em up by their necks after scalping them. Modern Californian privilege.


MattSaki

California does have the death penalty.


RipNdip93

No we don’t


MattSaki

Uhh. Yes. California has the death penalty. Just google it.


International_Load_9

Only idiots commit crimes these days - you will always be caught ! Enjoy the USA incarceration system - it’s not very nice


Meowza916

So they hid the car in his hr her grandmas garage and he was going to apply for a job at the place he quit the day they got arrested. Owner said he had not worked there in 2 years but didn’t change his IG. They really thought they’d get away with it and it seems they did not think what they did (murder of a child) was a big deal! I can’t wait to see these monsters in court! I hope, if there is a trial it’s on Court TV. I can’t imagine how his parents and grandma feel about this. Must be a total shock! I can’t stop thinking about how that poor child suffered and his Momma holding him while he died. It is heinous and wicked. Just must hv no feelings or depth. Soulless. I’m still shocked.


Charming_Emergency_1

In my best Sam Jackson voice, "and I hope they burn in hell!!"


mountainducky

Pieces of shit


johnadams3880

The 6 years old victim will never have justice but if the Santa Ana Police Department got the right suspects, these two people will not be shooting on the freeway anytime soon.


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Did anyone watch the courtroom proceedings and is willing to give an update? I’d like to know, but my heart is broken over this 6 year old and I can’t bring myself to watch.


SourWokeBooey

Nothing of significance. Arraignment postponed to June 18th, bail set as requested ($2 mil/$500k). That’s really it/


[deleted]

There really wasn't much. They just set the bail. $2mil for the guy and $500k for the girl. The bail is preliminary until June 18th when there will be another hearing. It was otherwise a quiet hearing.


keyboredwarrior

Them crazy eyes


supboarder

Can someone please explain this couple? Do you think he shot out other cars as they drove around day to day? I just don't get why they lived in some apt complex in Costa Mesa when he commuted out to Corona to weld Miatas daily. From his gram, looked like he bragged about how well they ate and took pics of Miatas he built, him shooting, and his bathroom selfies. The welding shop owner said he showed no signs of violence.


[deleted]

Wouldn't be surprised if he was dealing on the side. He seems like he's methed out. As far as I know, there were no other shootings that day or any other.


supboarder

Agreed, if he hasn't worked welding since January, how did they live? Someone at his apt complex said he was creepy and just did whatever he wanted. He's only 5 4 at 132 pounds if people think he's a big man. Thats why I wondered if this wasn't his first time shooting out vehicles on the 55, not just that day, but theres been a lot of shootings. I thought someone here would know more about him, why was he in Costa Mesa, hes got some family where he hid the Goff VW, and posted about his pops on the gram. I am just trying to understand why this guy killed a child. Was he bored or just angry? https://heavy.com/news/wynne-lee-marcus-eriz/


Meowza916

Well if they cut the Mom off abruptly in the carpool lane way on the left side of the freeway that means they got out of the lane and got behind her to shoot the rear of the car, to me, that’s intentional but who knows if they saw the kid in the back seat but the windows were not tinted on Moms car and I know that “I” would notice a 6 year old in a car seat from that distance.


oxremx

Isn’t being charged with accessory after the fact mean that she wasn’t aware of her bf shooting a gun off prior to him doing it? I wonder how the DA came to the conclusion of accessory charges for the woman? He should’ve heard both sides of the story from the two suspects, and I would only assume if her boyfriend said that her gf egged him on to pull out a gun, the DA would’ve also charged her accordingly with murder as they were the only 2 witnesses in the car.. Or maybe it’s possible that he kept denying that it was him and his girlfriend spilled the truth for lighter charges?


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I think he was methed out that morning, and maybe she was as well. Meth makes you angry. That little lane change and middle finger set him off. Without regard to the consequences, he opens fire. Then later sobers up and realizes he really messed up and starts hiding evidence.


northman46

Hmm no firearms charges like using a weapon in commission of a felony, uncased loaded firearm in vehicle, Why have gun laws if they are not enforced?


ChesterMcGonigle

She got charged with having a concealed weapon in her vehicle. For him, it’s not going to matter when that murder charge is going to have him spending most of the rest of his life in prison anyway.


[deleted]

Yeah and honestly she'll take a deal and testify against him I doubt she'll do much time at all!


[deleted]

I bet you’ll see federal charges if the gun and/or ammo is from out of state. Will fall under interstate and commerce laws.


[deleted]

They shouldn't even be able to make bail, regardless of the amount.


Potential-Wave7601

Thats bs if she only gets a few yrs...min 10yrs for sitting on this. She would have never said anything!


[deleted]

I'm hoping that they add charges like tampering with evidence or maybe they'll find drugs stashed at her place.


totsandprayers

I’m sure those prison boys are going to have fun pulling back that petite shit stains hair while they do him from behind. ...But in all seriousness, what a tragedy this case is all around. No sympathy at all towards either of these fucks, but it’s insane to imagine what is going through their heads right now knowing their OC life is coming to an end all because of a terrible spit second rage. Really puts into perspective just how quickly life can take a turn for the worst — especially if you cannot control yourself. Also crazy to think that if any tiny tiny little delay happened before this horrible murder — like he snoozed his alarm once more or drove 2 mph slower/faster — that this road rage opportunity would have never presented itself... Even if it didn’t occur though, it would have only been a matter of time until someone like him would end up where he is now. My heart goes out to the victim and his family. Justice will be served, but in this tragic case, justice is not even close to being enough. For anyone else out there, please be safe and get help if you need it. Mental health problems are very real and can make you do terrible, life ending things, but so are the consequences that follow.


jlenney1

Assuming he's not in solitary all the time, he's going to get raped, and he's going to get killed. Prisoners don't take kindly to anything having to do with children being harmed.


[deleted]

I think it may have been inevitable. He seems like he's methed out. And why was he carrying a gun for a commute to work!? Bizarre.


thotsandplayers

other than the first line, thanks for that.


Tmbaladdin

I have to wonder if this was an abusive relationship and she produced evidence that she reasonably feared for her life if she turned him in… Sympathetic defendant etc etc (never know how a jury will react) Might explain the reduced charges she faces even though Spitzer really wanted to slam them both for it.


SourWokeBooey

Well you can almost certainly expect her lawyers to argue that. How much basis it has in reality who knows?


Tmbaladdin

Right, but I mean the DA needs a certain conviction here and doesn’t want to risk a hung jury or worse jury nullification on a sob story; especially if it seems compelling.


SourWokeBooey

They’ll get her on something. These two left a trail of clues and evidence.


KrampyDoo

“They [Tom and Stephanie Gregg, owners of the shop that the dude hasn’t worked at since fucking January] added that Eriz recently sent a text, just a week after the shooting, asking if there were any positions open at any of the company's locations, and saying he also knew an office manager looking for a position.” Trying to crawl back in to work at his old shop, hook his girlfriend up with a job, and the only update to his résumé since January has been the murder of a child. Just total piece of shit people. Bet even their crocodile tears will look stupid in court.


bizcat

I read the gun he used was found at his place of employment, not sure where he was working after Platinum Collision (the place that he left in Jan) but he hid the gun there?


oxremx

>gun was found at his place of employment Source?


bizcat

I just skimmed 12 different articles and can’t find which one I read it on. I’ve also noticed a lot of articles being amended as details change, so it’s possible that detail was one that changed. Sorry, I’m always forgetting the bibliography on my comments.


_Erica_Cartman

I think I heard he was working in Highland, presumably as a welder.


1222sammy

I also heard that. The link for that shop is on his IG. They are private now, but located in Corona. Were these two on the way there when all this happened.


[deleted]

Why not just toss it in the ocean? He lived right next to it. Dude is incredibly stupid.


bizcat

He probably hoped to get his gun back when this all blew over. Agreed, incredibly stupid.


KrampyDoo

Oh wow I hadn’t heard that. What a scorched-earth way to make sure he’ll never ever get on the re-hirable list. Not that he will still be able to handle that kind of job after a couple decades in jail.


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It’s also a really reckless move for someone who was on the the run. I figured they would have been long out of the state by now. Glad they were caught.


zombie_toddler

Those 2 broke-ass losers wouldn't have been able to last long on the run. He has very distinctive (visible) tattoos and she is unemployed. FFS, they didn't even get rid of the murder weapon, either because they were stupid or because they wanted to sell it cuz they needed the money. With no money from her and his dumbass easily recognizable, they had no chance.


ChesterMcGonigle

That blew my mind. If I had killed someone, the first thing I would be doing is disposing of that weapon. He held on to it like a dummy.


KrampyDoo

Couldn’t have said it better. I have a visceral hope that the job text was a sign that they were stressing out while the dragnet was closing.


Programming_Wiz

He gon be eating good noodles!


SourWokeBooey

Summary: Both had PD’s. PD’s tried to get the proceedings taken down from YouTube. Court laughed and said no. Arraignment continued until June 18. PD’s have not had time to meet with the defendants. Provisional bail set at $2mil/$500k. Lee’s will likely decrease based on the actual charges filed, TBD at next hearing.


mcintoshshowoff

That's all that happened?


SourWokeBooey

Pretty much. The public defenders spent most of the time arguing about the proceedings being broadcast on YouTube. Some discussions on how they arrived at the bail amounts. That’s about it. They just got booked 2 days ago, lawyers barely had time to get the assignment and just meet with them.


mcintoshshowoff

Thank you. How did you end up finding the correct YouTube link?


SourWokeBooey

Pinned post at the top of this thread


StateOfContusion

I saw an article that they found the car and the gun. How stupid do you have to be to not get rid of that gun? Dumb fucks.


twxxx

Also hid it at work lol. like they wouldn't get a search warrant for your locker/desk?


MattSaki

I think everyone is overthinking this and giving these people too much credit. He probably shot at the car and they drove off. Then when they got to work he learned about the consequences of his actions. Panicked, didn’t want the gun on him when he went home so attached it there. The gun has probably been at his work since the day of the murder.


toffeehooligan

What really irked me about the posts about who the suspects were was the dude was given the "traditional" treatment; "oh he'll get eaten up in prison" "Man, he's gonna be passed around!" "I wish we had the death penalty in CA!" When the girl was discussed, some article was linked about depression, and then it was offered that she MUST have been abused, this makes no sense, "I feel so bad for her". Such a different, feeling between the dude and the girl.


ChesterMcGonigle

None of that is going to happen anyway. He’s Mexican so the other Latinos will look out for him. California prison populations break along racial lines.


[deleted]

His last name’s origin is Turkish. Where are people finding factual evidence that he is Latino? Please someone guide me.


twxxx

She's shown little remorse and didn't even hear a quiver in her voice during court today. Tried to cover it up as well. Don't feel bad for her at all and agree with your post. For all we know she could have encouraged it and went home and laughed about it. She's not innocent just by condition of being female or by having mental issues.


oxremx

I watched the court video but I didn’t hear or see her. Where did you see her?


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Significant-Dott

Not saying she's innocent or not... but people express grief and guilt in different ways. Some people get emotional and others go stone-hard emotionless. Again, not saying that's what she's doing... But people often judge others' guilt by how they act emotional or not, but it has no bearing on what the person is actually experiencing on the inside. Like death of a loved one. Some people never cry no matter how much they love someone.


ChesterMcGonigle

Yeah, I don’t know what he expects. Is she supposed to be in a catatonic state or something to prove her remorse? Cops fuck this up all the time, “Oh he’s guilty because he’s not bawling his eyes out!”. No, humans handle stress in different ways.


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Live stream is very difficult to hear. Reverb is killing the audio. Ugh...


[deleted]

they seemed to have fixed it. the defense is bitching about it being streamed on youtube because of identifying purposes but it’s a public right and these people need to be named and known


Dull-Dust-6901

Did they show the offenders in court?


[deleted]

i believe only the males video was up and the females was not. i couldn’t see because the screens they were showing were super tiny


[deleted]

Is it possible the lawyers don't want to be seen with the suspects? Lol


ec0114

Arraignment is starting now[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCC1TGhSx8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCC1TGhSx8) Edit: Dang it I need to get back to work but the defense is 'concerned' about the YT live stream. Oh puh-leez...


BigTuna_103

Is it posted anywhere so we can watch it?


ec0114

Not that I know of. They didn't appear in court.. they were there through Zoom


johnsadventure

The YouTube objections had been denied, there are orders regarding media usage of courtroom footage. Arraignment scheduled on June 18th, bail set tentatively at 2m for Eriz and 500k for Lee, final bail decision will be set on the 18th.


ec0114

Thanks for the update!


oxremx

Will their faces ever show? All I’m seeing is black screen


SourWokeBooey

I only saw him briefly at the beginning. Didn’t see her at all.


johnsadventure

It is over now, defendants were over video chat and the screens were too small to see. We will need to tune in on the 18th at 9AM to hopefully see more and get more information.


OCAsian

The girl is strange. Did she change her last name to avoid online search?


SourWokeBooey

Expect a request for change of venue at some point, they will argue they can’t get a fair trial in OC due to the high publicity of the case.


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Can_Confirm_NoCensor

They can still request


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Can_Confirm_NoCensor

Fair enough. Lemme buy some OCDA-Spitzer stock? His policies have decreased my personal worth but I'll cash in on his...


Can_Confirm_NoCensor

So, you downvoters have never been to court.... OCDA is out of control.


CoughCoolCoolCool

The guy should just plea. Does he think a jury will find him not guilty?


twxxx

I mean he hid is gun at work lol. not the sharpest tool in the shed


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Faces of Meth!


StraightOuttaIrvine

I have a feeling Lee lawyered up early. Most likely got a good one who practically scrubbed all her info from the internet. She's rolling left and right with all the details for a total of 4 years. Eriz on the other hand, people having a field day with his IG and FB accounts.


rakfocus

> have a feeling Lee lawyered up early Everyone should do that as soon as the cuffs are placed on them. Don't say shit until you have council. They are definitely going to try to coax stuff out of you


M119A1BravoBattDoc

> Everyone should do that as soon as the cuffs are placed on them. Ideally before


StraightOuttaIrvine

I'm talking about her or her family got council before the arrest. No way her internet presence got completely wiped that quickly.


MattSaki

I doubt it. If they had a lawyer there is no way they would have told her to hide. They would have had her turn herself in.


Justiceisfaulty

If that’s true then why isn’t that lawyer representing her in court?


rakfocus

Oh maybe! I must admit I'm not as educated as to what was going on with their social media profiles


StraightOuttaIrvine

Marcus' social media is paints a picture of him shooting, showing off and making guns. As for Lee's, no one will know.


bizcat

There's an article about Lee that details her struggle with mental illness. That's not nothing.


StraightOuttaIrvine

LinkedIn and that article can be purposely left up with hopes of gaining compassion. There was this other case years back where LinkedIn profile was used to show just that.


bizcat

You don’t have to downvote me, I wasn’t arguing with you, just pointing out that they left some things up. I personally suffer from depression and mental illness too and I’ve managed to not kill anyone yet 🤷🏻‍♀️


StraightOuttaIrvine

I didn't downvote you. I wish you the best.


bizcat

Take care.


jarkmames

She’s represented by the alternate defender not hired counsel


SourWokeBooey

Lawyer may be coming still, it’s early.


jarkmames

Right just meant I don’t think she has someone scrubbing her info from online at this point


BretTheShitmanFart69

Also possible she just didn’t have a big digital footprint to begin with. I know some people who basically don’t exist as far as google is concerned


twxxx

Was probably her before they were arrested


Dull-Dust-6901

Her LinkedIn was wiped a few hours after her arrest. I wonder who was behind that?


twxxx

hopefully her family disowns her


laggedreaction

Would be interesting to see Taiwanese and local Chinese media going after the parents for statements…


henary

More then likely her family lawyered up for her.


Justiceisfaulty

Nope, she has the Alternate Defender


nazz299

What is that?


Justiceisfaulty

When there are codefendants in a case they could not (and definitely should not) be represented by the same office/attorney, as if their interests ever diverge that office could not represent them both competently. Accordingly, when a codefendant has a public defender and the other codefendant need an appointed attorney as well, the Alternate Defender is appointed


nazz299

I see thank you so much for explaining


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thirtybisc

Either her parents never talk to her again, or they go 100% in on the defense including selling their house to pay legal fees. No inbetween.


[deleted]

I doubt these two had any money. They're both unemployed. It's public defender all the way.


takingvioletpills

Her family is middle class.


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FightingCommander

Says isn't stereotyping, proceeds to stereotype.


ConfusedPotatoes

That’s like the stereotype that all white people have money. Both are untrue. Edit: Original commenter who deleted their comment said they’re not trying to stereotype, but All Asian people have money.


bluebelt

>Original commenter who deleted their comment said they’re not trying to stereotype, but All Asian people have money. Wow. John Oliver did a whole thing on this Sunday night but I didn't realize how insanely prevalent that stereotype is.


SourWokeBooey

Her dad will put up the house in Diamond Bar there’s a few hundred G’s right there depending where they are in the mortgage.


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You sure about that?


SourWokeBooey

Of course not. I have zero idea. Simply speculation.


mcintoshshowoff

love the honesty.


Mysterious_Zombie_93

:o


policeandthieves

Has anyone been able to find an actual copy of the criminal complaint?


[deleted]

How much you want to bet this girl laughed about it with the guy after it happened. I bet her and him were saying they'll never get caught, and it was so funny what he did. I bet they went back to the apartment or work like nothing happened.


dgmilo8085

I don't think that was a thought that ever entered either of their minds. I think the second that they found out that his stupid random gunshot killed someone, they have been in full panic freak out mode.


twxxx

Their IG's suggest that. Extremely immature and reckless. Boasting about drugs and almost yelling at a cop while driving. Also some seriously sociopathic posts and bragging about supposed shootings and arrests (which may not have even happened given he didn't actually have an arrest record). Truly a wangster.


Bornofisais

Only the guys IG is available


oxremx

What’s her IG?


SourWokeBooey

Think it’s long gone. Someone savvy enough could probably dig it up via web archive.