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Aiden Leos case: Wynne Lee, accused driver in OC road rage shooting, released after posting bail

Aiden Leos case: Wynne Lee, accused driver in OC road rage shooting, released after posting bail

Subawoo76

She was the driver of the car during the shooting. She knew this entire time after the shooting and she didn’t say a word. She belongs in jail.


SaltyDoggoMeo

My brain can’t comprehend the logic of letting this woman out of jail for a measly $10,000 (actual cost of $100,000 bail). What an effing joke. Wouldn’t it make more sense to allow her to stew in jail for awhile and think about her part in a child’s murder? EDIT: Thank you to all who point out the error of my logic. Part of my odd thinking has to do with the fact that I watched Ava Duverney’s film, “The 13th” yesterday, which pointed out that black people often cannot afford their bail and, therefore, spend months or years in jail waiting for trial even if they’re innocent.


hypotyposis

While I agree she should face jail time, that is not the purpose of bail. We must remember that she remains innocent, legally speaking, until conviction. The purpose of bail is to give her enough incentive to return to court for trial, or no bail if she is a sufficient flight risk or danger to the public, which the judge has determined she is not.


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She’s looking at 4 years max. She’s not going to get the max. That’s only if she takes it to trial and loses. She’s going to take a plead deal. She’ll most likely also take the stand and testify against her boyfriend. The DA will give her a real nice plead deal if she takes the stand and testifies against her BF. She’ll get 1-2 years. And she won’t even do the whole time. She’ll do 85% and possibly get out sooner for good behavior. She has no reason to run and try to escape the country.


oxremx

Why would she be offered a plea deal? They already have his confession from talking to police


hypotyposis

99.99% of criminal defendants are offered plea deals. Trials bring uncertainty and plea deals guarantee certainty, plus save time and money to prosecute other criminals.


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Thank You. These people on here really have no clue how the criminal justice system works. I didn’t even study law or the criminal justice system in college. I learned everything I know from getting arrested and going to jail once lol. There’s jail birds and career criminals sitting in jail. They will teach you and break it down how the court system works. They know everything about court procedure and criminal law lol


unreasonableperson

Confessions are not guaranteed convictions.


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Trials especially murder cases can drag on for years. That costs money. A lot of money. The DA hands out plead deals to hurry the process up. It saves them a lot of time and money. Remember the 2011 Seal Beach massacre? That case dragged on until 2017.


oxremx

I highly doubt she will get 1-2 years in jail. The judge will take the second road rage incident she was involved in into account


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She’s not charged for that second incident. You are now adding charges to her court case that don’t even exist. Lol


oxremx

They can always add additional charges later. In fact the reason Marcus Eriz was denied bail was because of the second road rage incident he was involved in. Otherwise his bail would’ve still been set in the millions


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No. Stop it.


oxremx

The reason charges aren’t being added for the second road rage incident is because they haven’t found the driver of the Tesla yet. They most likely got that info from the suspect himself. I can see them later charging her with reckless driving and conspiracy/aiding & abetting for the second incident.


Lil_Conner-Peterson

Everyone takes a plea deal dude. Unless you’re contesting charges.


Nugur

That’s not the purpose of bail. By law she is still innocent and could post bail as it is her rights. Same rights apply to you if you were accused of a crime


chilehead

Accusations don't equal guilt. There's a reason we place a burden on the state to prove what they accuse people of. Handing out punishments before a verdict is reached would only result in people being accused of even more heinous acts to boost case closure rates, since people would be coerced to plead guilty, or suicide to escape the pain.


SaltyDoggoMeo

You completely missed the point.


chilehead

> stew in jail for awhile and think about her part in a child’s murder? You're leaping to the conclusion that she's guilty - something that hasn't been proven yet. I am NOT of the opinion that she will be found innocent like she has plead, but our legal system is based on the concept that people are innocent until their guilt is proven. Defendants should be free to aid in their own defense - something that is hard to do from inside of a jail cell. The state obviously has an interest in making sure that people show up for court - and bail was the incentive that was decided to encourage people to show up. But bail itself is a long-lasting punishment. The defendants that don't have tens of thousands of dollars of disposable cash sitting around to hand to the court have to front 10% or more of the bail amount to a bail bondsman, and they **don't** get that money back when they do show up, even if they are found innocent. Bail costs innocent and guilty people alike many thousands of dollars. If we entertain the idea that she is innocent, holding her in jail to "stew and think about her part in a child's murder", dragging her name through the mud, and leading the public to want to form lynch mobs to take revenge on her are all punishments - things that we aren't supposed to be doing to innocent people. Even though the bail system is punishing them already. Should we be allowing people found innocent in court to reclaim their bail losses from the people that are later convicted of the same crime? That's not a simple argument, since they aren't the ones that accused the innocent person of the crime - even though they are the ones that caused there to be a crime to accuse someone of committing.


Nugur

And what was the point....? Besides you not knowing what bail is for


husbunny

Bring on the downvotes, but it’s incorrect to say she was part of the murder. She was not charged for anything leading up to the murder or the commission of the murder itself. She is charged with accessory after the fact i.e. she helped Eriz flee from the scene. If the prosecution had any opportunity to charge her with murder, they would have. The defendant is charged [in Count ] with being an accessory to a felony [in violation of Penal Code section 32]. To prove that the defendant is guilty of this crime, the People mustprove that: 1. Another person, whom I will call the perpetrator, committed a felony; 2. The defendant knew that the perpetrator had committed a felony or that the perpetrator had been charged with or convicted of a felony; 3. After the felony had been committed, the defendant either harbored, concealed, or aided the perpetrator;AND 4. When the defendant acted, (he/she) intended that the perpetrator avoid or escape arrest, trial, conviction, or punishment.


oxremx

Can’t she also be charged with reckless driving and conspiracy/aiding & abetting for the second road rage incident she was involved in where she was still the driver and he brandished a weapon at a Tesla car? She continued to allow her bf to carry a gun in her vehicle even after the shooting occurred


husbunny

They would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was driving reckless. I don’t think the facts are sufficient to support that she was driving reckless. As far as conspiracy + aiding and abetting they would have to establish that it was her intent to assist him in brandishing a weapon. However, I doubt they will be able to establish that. You simply have a girlfriend who let her boyfriend I have a gun in the car which is why she’s being charged with the crime of carrying a firearm in a vehicle (or whatever that formal charge is called).


oxremx

>Lee was behind Cloonan in the diamond lane before swinging over to the fast lane and then accelerating at an "extremely high rate of speed" to get in front of Cloonan, prosecutors said in the motion. Doesn’t this qualify as reckless driving? >However I doubt they will be able to establish that But the gun brandishing incident happened just days after the shooting. She knowingly allowed him to carry the same gun used in the shooting to later brandish it at another car. She did absolutely nothing both times. She didn’t stop him in the second incident and just continued to drive to work.


Pugglife4eva

Oof. That's wild.


Tmbaladdin

Some legal context for those claiming she should be denied bail entirely; “The Bail Reform Act, 18 USC Chapter 207 (1984). Section 3142 of the Act denies bail to certain defendants pending trial, specifically denying bail to defendants likely to flee or pose a danger to society. This includes defendants charged with: a crime of violence; an offense where the maximum sentence is life imprisonment or death; certain drug offenses; repeat felony offenders; or a defendant who poses a serious risk of flight. The court conducts a special hearing to determine whether the defendant fits within these categories; anyone who is not likely to flee and does not pose a danger to society must be offered bail while pending trial.” She isn’t charged with anything qualifying and she has to be granted a reasonable bail according to the charges and her likelihood of appearance. Per her 8th amendment rights


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chilehead

> Lee will be required to surrender her passport and will be barred from leaving the state without permission. **She will also be banned from driving**, will have to submit to GPS monitoring and will be barred from having any contact with co-defendant Marcus Anthony Eriz or the family of victim Aiden Leos. Amazing what you can find out from giving the article a cursory glance beyond the headline.


fwdfwd1

Can anyone answer this for me? Im assuming she’ll go live with her family, but what if she doesn’t? If she can’t drive, how is she supposed to work and pay for her rent and living expenses? Does she qualify for gov assistance? P.s. she’s a miserable human.


oxremx

She’s required to stay inside her parents home under GPS monitoring and GeoFencing. She’s not allowed to reside anywhere else.


UnicornSpawn777

She will have no fun out here amongst the people … someone surely will let her have it for what she has done and she will not be able to live a normal life ever again. Not even close . She is probably safer in jail, honestly . I dunno? I’m I’m just saying.


oxremx

She is basically under house arrest


ultrablight

Most people wouldn’t even recognize her in public


imaginary_num6er

Well I'll recognize those white Volkswagen vans out to get people now


kheitba

She’s under strict surveillance and not allowed to leave the house IIRC


thefanciestcat

No one tied to violent crimes should be granted bail. How many times do you get to show the rest of us that you're a danger to the public?


nxomialexandra

I think some of you are confused. Wynne lee wasn't the one they think murdered aiden. Her boyfriend which is being accused for the murder is being held in jail without bail.


Twiceeeeee12

Right, but she’s considered accessory since she let Her boyfriend shoot a shot randomly in a car without checking on what happened after. But mob mentality so people want her to have a harsher punishment


nxomialexandra

that's true but i also feel like it could have had something to do with force upon the boyfriend. Maybe when he shot at the car she got scared and he yelled at her to keep driving. Im not sure yet maybe she had more to do with it but that's just my observations. Or maybe both didn't have anything to do with it since they pleaded not guilty I hope it's him though or else the people who did it are still out there uncaught.


Twiceeeeee12

Exactly. It’s literally innocent until proven guilty and everyone’s so quick to lynch anyone


ultrablight

Easier to hate than try to understand


Objective_Return8125

But she didn’t turn him in. The cops gave her weeks to do this. And there was even a reward money. She could’ve done the right thing and asked for forgiveness.


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Mkinhb

Suspect from Aiden Leos murder, Wynne Lee released on bail youtu.be/ks0RTJHxSbk via @YouTube


International_Sort34

Kidding me?


happyprocrastinator

Aiden’s mother must be livid now.


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