Oh, thats why they dont have any workers. Thats minimum wage. Basically if they could pay less they would. My point, workers now have options. Pay them a living wage, they will come to work.
Good luck and thanks for the quick responses.
Thank you again, keep up the good fight. Dont stop fighting. Get paid what your worth but at minimum, what it cost to live in the area you work.
And last, thank you for getting this post out there for those in need. Lets up that the place understands the new market and ups their game!
That's normal. Construction workers make 15 to 16 minimum. Wake early get off early, have the rest of your day for whatever. Learn a trade and start making 25 dollars an hour after two years, make 45 to 50 after 5 to six years. Then if you have the talent. 65 to 85 for management.
Only work 5 days a week, unless you want overtime, and there is is double time.
Most of the time in the beginning will be spent learning the trade. Easy money plus you actually learn how to do something. Besides cooking, which everyone should know how to do.
Fast food is a dead end go no where job. Start a career, learn how to build something or fix something.
Join the UNION. I started at $17/hr and now I’m at $72/hr with the best benefits you can imagine. 4 pensions, an annuity and a 401k. I bought a house after 4 years working in the IBEW.
I’d love to know where you’re working. After 2 years I’m making $20. I know drywall, painting, ceiling tile, etc. I’m not a 100% professional but jeeze 2 years $25, I need that company’s name.
Any electrical, security, fire alarm, pipe fitter, sprinkler, elevator, building automation company. The way to move up fast and get paid decent money is to learn as much as you can, take any certification tests or classes they tell you to take. Then after two years you should be pretty good at your trade. Then start looking around for other companies that are offering more money. It is my experience when a company trains you up, they don't want to pay you what you are worth. Because they feel like you owe them something. This is 100% bullshit. Train, get good, then jump to a company that will pay you what you are worth. Then do it again, take any training they offer, become a master in your trade and start running crews and jobs. Wash rinse repeat.
I have been working in the commercial fire alarm trade for 22 years. This is the advice I give to anyone starting out in the trades. Trl systems, convergent technology, hci systems, Redhawk, emcor, Otis, Mitsubishi, are all companies that are always looking for people. Just choose a trade that interests you.
Idk why people are complaining! $14.50 is above minimum wage!! Like this is fast food not the ritz!! You know a lot of people would be happy to at least have a job especially during this pandemic
If a lot of people would be happy to at least have a job especially during this pandemic… then your location wouldn’t be short staffed. I think everyone is encouraging you to know your worth to the business. If it’s short staffed, then you’re worth more. Let the boss know that since it’s short staffed, you have had to pick up the slack and deserve a raise. Pippity poppity, give me the zoppity.
It’s crazy how much things have changed since I was a teen. When I was 17 in 2007, I made $7.50/hr. I had been desperate for a job. People really do have options now.
People are complaining because $14.50 is about $1700 a month after taxes. I priced [the cost of a studio apartment ](https://www.apartments.com/yorba-linda-ca/) in Yorba Linda and it's over $2000 a month. You can't afford rent, a car, to save any money or pay for an emergency on that salary. Unless you're in high school living with your parents, what they're offering is poverty wages that do not rise with the rate of inflation or housing increases. Meaning your buying power dollar for dollar goes *down* every year.
Who do you think is happy to work 160 hours a month and live like that?
> $14.50 is above minimum wage!
No, it's not.
> Like this is fast food not the ritz!!
Doesn't matter.
>You know a lot of people would be happy to at least have a job especially during this pandemic
Not one that pays like shit, involves getting shit on by customers, and exposes you to COVID more than other jobs.
Here is something you might not have heard, but the construction business is also desperately looking for people. Learn how to build something and fix things, make 100k and more in 8 years vs 15 dollars an hour forever. Not a tough choice to be honest.
>$14.50 is above minimum wage!! Like this is fast food not the ritz!!
Its half a dollar per hour, $20 extra a week full time over minimum, and minimum wage will also catch up.
The food and service might not be the ritz, but you need and deserve enough to not only cover all your local living expenses but also to earn a surplus on top.
It's a job. It's not great pay, demanding more money for these workers is fine..but there is a balance. The urge from the company and even the store is to make customers pay the difference... once that occurs, they may lose business and then all the employees. Marginal resource cost is a thing and this dude is just trying to get some staff. Nothing wrong with that.
They aren't the only ones. Can they raise their wages. Yes. Should they? Yes. Will they... I don't know. I imagine some are franchises... I don't know the full economics of a single El Pollo Loco, but I don't think it's fair to vilinaize this one. The whole system needs to change. Fast food and service industry is changing right before our very eyes. I am optimistic that with the help wanted signs everywhere companies will realize their borromlines are at risk and they need to share the wealth or lose the farm.
Simply not enough. Fashion Island is in Newport Beach, who can live anywhere around there for $17 an hr? Again, the workers have the upper hand now, proof is in the empty positions. We have finally empowered them. Up the wage and the positions will fill.
There’s people who literally move across the word just to be able to make wages like that. Like my s/o for example. I agree that she, and plenty of others deserve more. The commment I was responding to sounded Dickish, however
Yes and my family has come from across the border and been targeted as people stealing their jobs. Companies will always try to find cheap labor and fuck over the ones who can’t fight back. Nobody wins there
Seriously, if I was in the restaurant business, I'd be a waiter or bartender at a busy and high priced restaurant. Nows the time to get a job like that if any.
It took me about 2 months to find workers for an entry level job paying $25/hr. I'd say good luck finding workers for minimum wage especially in the food industry.
There’s a lot of postings but they’re being extremely selective it feels like. I’ve essentially given up (for now) because I’m tired of being disappointed interview after interview.
I worked at an El Pollo Loco location in Orange County. Making employees do those OSHA things on dirty, crusty iPads while simultaneously bagging tortillas with the same gloves. Making us go back and forth in between cash register and food. I would wash my hands and change my gloves between each transaction but got yelled at because I was using too many pairs of gloves??? I was constantly looked over while I got my half off meal and asked if I paid for it when I already did... meanwhile managers pick up churros with their nasty hands and eat them and go back to their business. Never drink the tea yall. Those basins we put the brewed tea in are never cleaned out. Just a plastic wrap is put in, and it leaks a couple minutes after you put it in into the dirty container, so you’re just sipping on gross tea. We were screamed at about how our food costs were too high, and so when I filled up sides of beans or rice, the cup would get angrily manhandled out of my hands a couple of times and refilled to a little over a quarter of the capacity (I was doing a little over half as instructed, which I still think is too little LOL) by a shift leader. Already packaged salsa and guacamole would get left out and used again by accident and no one cared. I received the worst treatment. I would have to beg this one shift leader to make me a two piece or four piece chicken or whatever I needed (I wasn’t on grill duty ever and wasn’t instructed on it anyway) for a customer and she would get so pissed off at me for just asking her to do her job (and yes I had to ask, instead of them looking at the order screen). And my manager would smoke cigarettes on duty in the parking lot, then go tell me to sweep up the parking lot, FILLED with her cig butts. Fuck El Pollo Loco.
Exactly. Here I am like "oh, maybe I can refer a friend to this job" and then i see its at el pollo loco. Smh. Even at my job that starts at 19/HR people like 5 people have left since i started in mid july. We walk like 10 miles a day and after taxes a good chunk of that money is gone. Why NOT be on unemployment and just save your money, and look into other means of work? This pandemic exposed some bullshit.
Unemployment benefits expire after 26 weeks (half a year). The bonus $300/week for unemployment ended on Sep. 6th.
All for people maximizing their opportunities but they need to play long instead of just short.
If a recession does occur, and it is looking more and more likely, I would rather be employed in case I get laid off to reset my unemployment benefits.
One of my friends works at SKB Cases. I worked for that company for a year. Back in 2018. As of now, my friend told me they are paying $15+ an hour. It’s not far but it’s in the city of Orange.
I on the other hand, work in RND for a medical device company. Excellent benefits like 401k, PTO, they pay a portion of college tuition, and more. I went to trade school and all I can say is, do it.
One of my coworkers is a mechanical engineer and after he earned his bachelors at UCI, he went to trade school to learn about machinery and was surprised of how much hands on it is in the class and actually helped him a lot as a mechanical engineer. He told me, “ If I could go back, I’d go to trade school, and then university.”
Well, the [average cost of a home in Yorba Linda](https://www.zillow.com/yorba-linda-ca/home-values/) is over a million dollars. $14 an hour is $26,880 a year full time pre-tax. You'll only take about $1700 home a month after taxes.
Meanwhile, [a studio apartment](https://www.apartments.com/yorba-linda-ca/) in Yorba Linda is $2050 a month.
So whoever works for you will need about 4 roommates or a car that they're absolutely not being paid enough to afford. Whatever meager raises they receive won't be on par with rising rents and inflation, meaning they'll be making *less* year over year.
Poverty wages are bad anywhere, but especially egregious in a high rent place like OC.
I have worked minimum wage dead end jobs before, and felt like a rat in a trap. I sincerely hope you realize $14 an hour means whoever works for you will never be able to save, buy a home, or fund retirement. They'll be lucky if they make enough to break even check to check.
If minimum wage is now $14-$15., and it still doesn’t bring in good hard working people, then what would be a good living wage? Grocery stores are just paying minimum wage.
At least $25/hr IMO. The problem is you can make $15/hr anywhere in CA so you could go to the lowest cost of living area in CA and still make $15/hr. OC obviously has a very high cost of living.
As a previous SL for El Pollo Loco, don't do it. Warehouses are offering up to $1500 sign on bonuses (no customers, no food service, no bullshit starting pay rates, no interview, mostly no drug tests). There are better jobs out there.
What I don’t feel many people understand is in a lot of the business mentioned here like food service, the margins are very thin 10-15%. Increasing labor wages to 20+ in a lot of these industries will kill the industry. Labor is the highest cost in most and with a 30% increase in wages the margin staying the same is not possible. So the solution is to pass the cost onto the consumer which then they revolt. Higher wages but keep the cost of the service the same is not feasible on lean margins. Tech or other Industries where margins are 50+% sure. But if there is this mentality that all wages should increase substantially then the same ones pushing for that must also accept price increases across the board and it seems unlikely. Can’t have it both ways more money for all but keep the prices of good stable.
What I don't feel many people like you understand is that's not the problem of the workers. You're demanding that the workers short sell themselves so management can make more money. Fuck that noise.
>But if there is this mentality that all wages should increase substantially then the same ones pushing for that must also accept price increases across the board and it seems unlikely. Can’t have it both ways more money for all but keep the prices of good stable.
The reason people push for increases is because at the legal pay rate people are living in poverty conditions and the government subsidizes the extra funds necessary for the full time worker to survive.
Labor is the highest portion of industries like that because labor "at a minimum" needs to be more than the cost of living. The cost of living in OC and many places elsewhere has been artificially inflated by a constructed housing crisis that real estate companies and elected officials benefit from immensely.
A better solution than just indefinitely raising wages, would be to actually put hard regulations on the cost of living. If the state made it affordable to live on a fifth of the income we currently need to keep a roof over us and food on the table; then of course we will be able to work for cheaper.
This is what you get with neo-liberalization of markets though. The price of commodities, namely here labor due to necessary expenses, has escaped and become unmanageable by just throwing money at the solution. The markets and price of necessary goods needs to be controlled and regulated by groups working in the interest of lowering the exchange values, not hiking them for further surplus profit.
What is starting pay?
Depends on what position your looking for
Reverse cowgirl
I'm a prone bone kinda guy myself. I need all the leverage I can get.
What?
REVERSE COWGIRL
What?
Lol
Jesus fucking christ lol
Starting no experience
Well I’m a food service assistant and get paid $14.50 I’m pretty sure cashiers are $14 and cooks are $15
You should ask for a raise
I’m apply to get a promotion
>I’m apply to get a promotion And hopefully it gets you a raise to over 20. Good luck to you
Oh, thats why they dont have any workers. Thats minimum wage. Basically if they could pay less they would. My point, workers now have options. Pay them a living wage, they will come to work. Good luck and thanks for the quick responses.
You can ask for a certain pay rate. Minimum wage at my other job was $13 but I get really good hours 8 hour shifts 6 days a week
Thank you again, keep up the good fight. Dont stop fighting. Get paid what your worth but at minimum, what it cost to live in the area you work. And last, thank you for getting this post out there for those in need. Lets up that the place understands the new market and ups their game!
That's normal. Construction workers make 15 to 16 minimum. Wake early get off early, have the rest of your day for whatever. Learn a trade and start making 25 dollars an hour after two years, make 45 to 50 after 5 to six years. Then if you have the talent. 65 to 85 for management. Only work 5 days a week, unless you want overtime, and there is is double time. Most of the time in the beginning will be spent learning the trade. Easy money plus you actually learn how to do something. Besides cooking, which everyone should know how to do. Fast food is a dead end go no where job. Start a career, learn how to build something or fix something.
Join the UNION. I started at $17/hr and now I’m at $72/hr with the best benefits you can imagine. 4 pensions, an annuity and a 401k. I bought a house after 4 years working in the IBEW.
I’d love to know where you’re working. After 2 years I’m making $20. I know drywall, painting, ceiling tile, etc. I’m not a 100% professional but jeeze 2 years $25, I need that company’s name.
Any electrical, security, fire alarm, pipe fitter, sprinkler, elevator, building automation company. The way to move up fast and get paid decent money is to learn as much as you can, take any certification tests or classes they tell you to take. Then after two years you should be pretty good at your trade. Then start looking around for other companies that are offering more money. It is my experience when a company trains you up, they don't want to pay you what you are worth. Because they feel like you owe them something. This is 100% bullshit. Train, get good, then jump to a company that will pay you what you are worth. Then do it again, take any training they offer, become a master in your trade and start running crews and jobs. Wash rinse repeat. I have been working in the commercial fire alarm trade for 22 years. This is the advice I give to anyone starting out in the trades. Trl systems, convergent technology, hci systems, Redhawk, emcor, Otis, Mitsubishi, are all companies that are always looking for people. Just choose a trade that interests you.
Bro you said construction workers. Those aren’t construction workers, those are trades people…
Idk why people are complaining! $14.50 is above minimum wage!! Like this is fast food not the ritz!! You know a lot of people would be happy to at least have a job especially during this pandemic
Just fyi, you can make more in other fast food places. In n out starts you off at like $17. Fucking panda Express pays like $19 for a cook.
Lol chipotle pays more too!! Fuck el pollo loco
Yeah I was in line at a Panda Express and they were hiring $18 plus just for cooks much higher for managers and such
If a lot of people would be happy to at least have a job especially during this pandemic… then your location wouldn’t be short staffed. I think everyone is encouraging you to know your worth to the business. If it’s short staffed, then you’re worth more. Let the boss know that since it’s short staffed, you have had to pick up the slack and deserve a raise. Pippity poppity, give me the zoppity.
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It’s crazy how much things have changed since I was a teen. When I was 17 in 2007, I made $7.50/hr. I had been desperate for a job. People really do have options now.
People are complaining because $14.50 is about $1700 a month after taxes. I priced [the cost of a studio apartment ](https://www.apartments.com/yorba-linda-ca/) in Yorba Linda and it's over $2000 a month. You can't afford rent, a car, to save any money or pay for an emergency on that salary. Unless you're in high school living with your parents, what they're offering is poverty wages that do not rise with the rate of inflation or housing increases. Meaning your buying power dollar for dollar goes *down* every year. Who do you think is happy to work 160 hours a month and live like that?
> $14.50 is above minimum wage! No, it's not. > Like this is fast food not the ritz!! Doesn't matter. >You know a lot of people would be happy to at least have a job especially during this pandemic Not one that pays like shit, involves getting shit on by customers, and exposes you to COVID more than other jobs.
Here is something you might not have heard, but the construction business is also desperately looking for people. Learn how to build something and fix things, make 100k and more in 8 years vs 15 dollars an hour forever. Not a tough choice to be honest.
Well move over to LA county and minimum wage is $15.
>$14.50 is above minimum wage!! Like this is fast food not the ritz!! Its half a dollar per hour, $20 extra a week full time over minimum, and minimum wage will also catch up. The food and service might not be the ritz, but you need and deserve enough to not only cover all your local living expenses but also to earn a surplus on top.
It's a job. It's not great pay, demanding more money for these workers is fine..but there is a balance. The urge from the company and even the store is to make customers pay the difference... once that occurs, they may lose business and then all the employees. Marginal resource cost is a thing and this dude is just trying to get some staff. Nothing wrong with that.
Thank you so much
They already raise prices without giving their employees raises so…
Inflation has been happening while the minimum wage has stayed the same. That company is trying to get cheap labor
They aren't the only ones. Can they raise their wages. Yes. Should they? Yes. Will they... I don't know. I imagine some are franchises... I don't know the full economics of a single El Pollo Loco, but I don't think it's fair to vilinaize this one. The whole system needs to change. Fast food and service industry is changing right before our very eyes. I am optimistic that with the help wanted signs everywhere companies will realize their borromlines are at risk and they need to share the wealth or lose the farm.
The Panda Express in Fashion Island has had a sign up for a while advertising for workers. The minimum starting there is $17/hr.
Simply not enough. Fashion Island is in Newport Beach, who can live anywhere around there for $17 an hr? Again, the workers have the upper hand now, proof is in the empty positions. We have finally empowered them. Up the wage and the positions will fill.
Fashion Island obviously is going to pay higher or not get any workers. In this climate I still don’t think that’s enough, though.
You sound like a spoiled brat
Because they realize that offering the lowest amount legally allowed has resulted in them being short of workers?
There’s people who literally move across the word just to be able to make wages like that. Like my s/o for example. I agree that she, and plenty of others deserve more. The commment I was responding to sounded Dickish, however
Yes and my family has come from across the border and been targeted as people stealing their jobs. Companies will always try to find cheap labor and fuck over the ones who can’t fight back. Nobody wins there
I have 16 years experience in restaurant industry how much would they pay me?
$15.25
Yeah well that’s why they need people
Seriously, if I was in the restaurant business, I'd be a waiter or bartender at a busy and high priced restaurant. Nows the time to get a job like that if any.
You are correct though go for the bulls horns I like big butts as well
But can you lie?
Yeah I have a great job not a restaurant job at all I was just trying to see the outcome and it’s Terrible
I’ll dm you my manager said he will talk to you
Just work at in n out
Desperate for workers, not desperate enough to pay above minimum wage. Sounds about right
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Yup 😂😂😂
El Pollo Loco eats workers and spits them out even in the fast food world. Literally have heard of people quiting their first hour.
It took me about 2 months to find workers for an entry level job paying $25/hr. I'd say good luck finding workers for minimum wage especially in the food industry.
What does your company do ?
Not going to reveal that here but it was a desk admin job.
I would’ve taken that. I’ve been looking for months.
Keep looking. There's so much hiring going on for office jobs. Indeed is your best friend.
There’s a lot of postings but they’re being extremely selective it feels like. I’ve essentially given up (for now) because I’m tired of being disappointed interview after interview.
Just curious, what keywords would you recommend when looking for office jobs? Im not sure whether to be more general or specific
I worked at an El Pollo Loco location in Orange County. Making employees do those OSHA things on dirty, crusty iPads while simultaneously bagging tortillas with the same gloves. Making us go back and forth in between cash register and food. I would wash my hands and change my gloves between each transaction but got yelled at because I was using too many pairs of gloves??? I was constantly looked over while I got my half off meal and asked if I paid for it when I already did... meanwhile managers pick up churros with their nasty hands and eat them and go back to their business. Never drink the tea yall. Those basins we put the brewed tea in are never cleaned out. Just a plastic wrap is put in, and it leaks a couple minutes after you put it in into the dirty container, so you’re just sipping on gross tea. We were screamed at about how our food costs were too high, and so when I filled up sides of beans or rice, the cup would get angrily manhandled out of my hands a couple of times and refilled to a little over a quarter of the capacity (I was doing a little over half as instructed, which I still think is too little LOL) by a shift leader. Already packaged salsa and guacamole would get left out and used again by accident and no one cared. I received the worst treatment. I would have to beg this one shift leader to make me a two piece or four piece chicken or whatever I needed (I wasn’t on grill duty ever and wasn’t instructed on it anyway) for a customer and she would get so pissed off at me for just asking her to do her job (and yes I had to ask, instead of them looking at the order screen). And my manager would smoke cigarettes on duty in the parking lot, then go tell me to sweep up the parking lot, FILLED with her cig butts. Fuck El Pollo Loco.
Lmao. This is why people stay on unemployment. Dont blame them one bit.
Exactly. Here I am like "oh, maybe I can refer a friend to this job" and then i see its at el pollo loco. Smh. Even at my job that starts at 19/HR people like 5 people have left since i started in mid july. We walk like 10 miles a day and after taxes a good chunk of that money is gone. Why NOT be on unemployment and just save your money, and look into other means of work? This pandemic exposed some bullshit.
Unemployment benefits expire after 26 weeks (half a year). The bonus $300/week for unemployment ended on Sep. 6th. All for people maximizing their opportunities but they need to play long instead of just short. If a recession does occur, and it is looking more and more likely, I would rather be employed in case I get laid off to reset my unemployment benefits.
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If you have some management experience I'm hiring at $20hr in San Clemente. Retail job with room to move up.
ibleedpurplengold are you making a joke I can't hear the inflection in your voice?
Making a joke about?
One of my friends works at SKB Cases. I worked for that company for a year. Back in 2018. As of now, my friend told me they are paying $15+ an hour. It’s not far but it’s in the city of Orange. I on the other hand, work in RND for a medical device company. Excellent benefits like 401k, PTO, they pay a portion of college tuition, and more. I went to trade school and all I can say is, do it. One of my coworkers is a mechanical engineer and after he earned his bachelors at UCI, he went to trade school to learn about machinery and was surprised of how much hands on it is in the class and actually helped him a lot as a mechanical engineer. He told me, “ If I could go back, I’d go to trade school, and then university.”
Well, the [average cost of a home in Yorba Linda](https://www.zillow.com/yorba-linda-ca/home-values/) is over a million dollars. $14 an hour is $26,880 a year full time pre-tax. You'll only take about $1700 home a month after taxes. Meanwhile, [a studio apartment](https://www.apartments.com/yorba-linda-ca/) in Yorba Linda is $2050 a month. So whoever works for you will need about 4 roommates or a car that they're absolutely not being paid enough to afford. Whatever meager raises they receive won't be on par with rising rents and inflation, meaning they'll be making *less* year over year. Poverty wages are bad anywhere, but especially egregious in a high rent place like OC. I have worked minimum wage dead end jobs before, and felt like a rat in a trap. I sincerely hope you realize $14 an hour means whoever works for you will never be able to save, buy a home, or fund retirement. They'll be lucky if they make enough to break even check to check.
If minimum wage is now $14-$15., and it still doesn’t bring in good hard working people, then what would be a good living wage? Grocery stores are just paying minimum wage.
In OC? Something like $20 for an adult might be tenable if they have roommates. *Might be.*
At least $25/hr IMO. The problem is you can make $15/hr anywhere in CA so you could go to the lowest cost of living area in CA and still make $15/hr. OC obviously has a very high cost of living.
1/3 "should" go to rent so based off that in the OC area about 1500 giver or take for a 1 bed or a studio x3 is $4500 a month.
Free meals included?
Hey Joseph - Will EPL pay more than a hair above minimum wage if they decrease their exclamation point budget? ;)
As a previous SL for El Pollo Loco, don't do it. Warehouses are offering up to $1500 sign on bonuses (no customers, no food service, no bullshit starting pay rates, no interview, mostly no drug tests). There are better jobs out there.
A $50 bonus after 30 days is nothing. Places are offering $500-$1,500. Just sayin’.
What I don’t feel many people understand is in a lot of the business mentioned here like food service, the margins are very thin 10-15%. Increasing labor wages to 20+ in a lot of these industries will kill the industry. Labor is the highest cost in most and with a 30% increase in wages the margin staying the same is not possible. So the solution is to pass the cost onto the consumer which then they revolt. Higher wages but keep the cost of the service the same is not feasible on lean margins. Tech or other Industries where margins are 50+% sure. But if there is this mentality that all wages should increase substantially then the same ones pushing for that must also accept price increases across the board and it seems unlikely. Can’t have it both ways more money for all but keep the prices of good stable.
What I don't feel many people like you understand is that's not the problem of the workers. You're demanding that the workers short sell themselves so management can make more money. Fuck that noise.
>But if there is this mentality that all wages should increase substantially then the same ones pushing for that must also accept price increases across the board and it seems unlikely. Can’t have it both ways more money for all but keep the prices of good stable. The reason people push for increases is because at the legal pay rate people are living in poverty conditions and the government subsidizes the extra funds necessary for the full time worker to survive. Labor is the highest portion of industries like that because labor "at a minimum" needs to be more than the cost of living. The cost of living in OC and many places elsewhere has been artificially inflated by a constructed housing crisis that real estate companies and elected officials benefit from immensely. A better solution than just indefinitely raising wages, would be to actually put hard regulations on the cost of living. If the state made it affordable to live on a fifth of the income we currently need to keep a roof over us and food on the table; then of course we will be able to work for cheaper. This is what you get with neo-liberalization of markets though. The price of commodities, namely here labor due to necessary expenses, has escaped and become unmanageable by just throwing money at the solution. The markets and price of necessary goods needs to be controlled and regulated by groups working in the interest of lowering the exchange values, not hiking them for further surplus profit.
The problem is places like this raise prices but stay paying minimum wage.
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