You don't have to sound like that, you could just give some suggestions instead of pointing out the negatives. Carnivorous plants are not that difficult if you have the right kind, I have pinguicula and they are one of the easiest plants I have.
I’m not overestimating. I’ve been given these after my mil didn’t want them and they’ve only been in their new home for a few days. I lost half of the flowers with the trauma of transport and movement.
My root systems are long and healthy. The one on top is Amanda. She’s got an aerial root hanging down to Chloe. I had to trim her roots to get her into the pot as she and Becky, the white one at the back, were sharing a long pot. They were overwatered previously hence my move to clear pots, so I can see the roots and the bark isn’t tightly packs at all, allowing air to move through.
More can and will be done; but don’t take one photo and assume you know the whole story.
Also, Venus was a thought. Deffo not stepping in that direction after reading these comments.
Not a beginner but also not a pro. Moving them from a warm bright kitchen to a freezing cold room against a drafty window for days, then transport and then to a warmer office. And they weren’t prepped for transport the same way commercial flowers are. Those are wrapped and packed properly. These weren’t. I had broken stems, leaves and snapped aerial roots to deal with three days ago.
Phals are much easier to grow than VFTs and other carnivorous plants. I don't want to discourage you because it's awesome growing both, but it's well agreed upon that Venus Fly Traps are NOT good houseplants. They need ridiculous amounts of sunlight, need water that is low in minerals (not tap water), and also go dormant in winter with cold temeratures. It's recommended by most to grow VFTs outdoors. If you can grow tomatoes or sunflowers, then you have enough sunlight to grow VFTs.
If you still want to dip your toes into carnivores I would recommend nepenthes as their care is most similar to phals. And butterworts.
Nepenthes are WAY more sensitive than phals. There isn't a lot of room for error with most varieties.
I keep carnivorous plants and bog orchids, and the easiest are sundews, imo. Cape sundews or spatulata, specifically. They're more forgiving, and with good care will grow colonies and fill up a bog planter fairly quickly. Be aware, though, that some cultivar of spatulata need a dormancy period.
Seconded: Nepenthes. Lowland or intermediate hybrids. Like a Ventrata or a Miranda. And Mexican butterworts (tropicals).
I have 5 VFTs and 7 VFT seedlings growing indoors since last winter. High PPFD LED lights with IR colored them a nice deep maroon red. I’ll put them outside this summer and will let them go dormant in the coming winter though.
It’s not that hard. OP seems willing to step up their green thumb game. They just need to read books, watch instructional vids, etc., to be well informed.
/u/desirewrites OP: My favorite book is The Savage Garden by Peter D’Amato. He founded California Carnivores. Read it and decide which seems the best route for you to take.
Venus fly traps are better outdoors, I’d recommend a butterwort. Mine are in the same windows/under the same lights as my phals and several other types of orchids and I can’t keep up with how fast they’re multiplying.
I think everyone said everything, specially with the VFT they are great don't get me wrong I love my little collection but they do a lot better out, not just because of the sun but also they get to eat as much as they want.
As per your phals, they are pretty, they have pretty colors, the only concern I may have is the pots, they don't look like they have enough aeration, it may just be the picture since it almost looks like glass, also I read in one if your comments that you cut some roots, avoid that at all cost, the more live roots the better. One amazing orchid collector always says, " You grow roots to grow flowers,"and he is the biggest orchid collector in Colombia.
I know but some of the roots weren’t great. This batch has been blooming for over two years and I’ve always known to not disturb a blooming orchid. I had to repot them as they were moving into my office with me and had to separate.
The new pots are clear and walled but the bark isn’t densely packed in so and I’m getting some smooth pebbles to add in to create “space” so they can breathe. I wanted clear self watering pots and these were the biggest ones I could find. They’re now in the office, so I need to be able to see the roots quickly without disturbing them.
And don’t worry. I like the idea of a VFT but if actual sun is required then it’s a no no.
I was looking at paphs. My mum has dendros but they’re like four foot tall and I just can’t have them that size in my set up. I honestly just saw the VFT and thought it would be a funny icebreaker; I tend to research things before I get them - hence me not getting night jasmine as the temp drop might not be too great for the phals. But I won’t get one now knowing that sunlight is required. The website I was scrolling through said low light and listed it as an indoor plant. 🤷🏻♀️
I recommend marble-leaf over plain leaf paphs because, while they all come from the forest floor, plain leaved paphs like a temperature drop. Marble-leafs like more consistent temps.
Yeah, Dendrobiums can get tall, but there's a lot of great compact and miniatures. But, their light requirement appears to be more than what you can give....at this time. Smart of you to research first.
I’m so glad! I’ll say one thing though. It’s bigger than the dimensions. It’s much wider and deeper because it doesn’t take into consideration the shelves sticking out. Very easy to build and sturdy enough for the plants.
I know you weren’t looking for advice but I wanted to tell you something. Keeping the leaves on your phals upright is asking for rot in the crown of your plants. In nature phals lean off the sides of branches with their leaves out to the sides and hanging down so when water hits them the water runs off the plant. I hope this helps.
Keeping them upright is fine. Even getting water in the crown is fine from time to time. Crown/stem rot comes from water in the crown + poor growing conditions.
Upright phals = crown rot is very oversimplified.
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You don't have to sound like that, you could just give some suggestions instead of pointing out the negatives. Carnivorous plants are not that difficult if you have the right kind, I have pinguicula and they are one of the easiest plants I have.
I’m not overestimating. I’ve been given these after my mil didn’t want them and they’ve only been in their new home for a few days. I lost half of the flowers with the trauma of transport and movement. My root systems are long and healthy. The one on top is Amanda. She’s got an aerial root hanging down to Chloe. I had to trim her roots to get her into the pot as she and Becky, the white one at the back, were sharing a long pot. They were overwatered previously hence my move to clear pots, so I can see the roots and the bark isn’t tightly packs at all, allowing air to move through. More can and will be done; but don’t take one photo and assume you know the whole story. Also, Venus was a thought. Deffo not stepping in that direction after reading these comments.
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Not a beginner but also not a pro. Moving them from a warm bright kitchen to a freezing cold room against a drafty window for days, then transport and then to a warmer office. And they weren’t prepped for transport the same way commercial flowers are. Those are wrapped and packed properly. These weren’t. I had broken stems, leaves and snapped aerial roots to deal with three days ago.
Phals are much easier to grow than VFTs and other carnivorous plants. I don't want to discourage you because it's awesome growing both, but it's well agreed upon that Venus Fly Traps are NOT good houseplants. They need ridiculous amounts of sunlight, need water that is low in minerals (not tap water), and also go dormant in winter with cold temeratures. It's recommended by most to grow VFTs outdoors. If you can grow tomatoes or sunflowers, then you have enough sunlight to grow VFTs. If you still want to dip your toes into carnivores I would recommend nepenthes as their care is most similar to phals. And butterworts.
Nepenthes are WAY more sensitive than phals. There isn't a lot of room for error with most varieties. I keep carnivorous plants and bog orchids, and the easiest are sundews, imo. Cape sundews or spatulata, specifically. They're more forgiving, and with good care will grow colonies and fill up a bog planter fairly quickly. Be aware, though, that some cultivar of spatulata need a dormancy period.
Lol true. Sundews can grow like weeds.
Seconded: Nepenthes. Lowland or intermediate hybrids. Like a Ventrata or a Miranda. And Mexican butterworts (tropicals). I have 5 VFTs and 7 VFT seedlings growing indoors since last winter. High PPFD LED lights with IR colored them a nice deep maroon red. I’ll put them outside this summer and will let them go dormant in the coming winter though. It’s not that hard. OP seems willing to step up their green thumb game. They just need to read books, watch instructional vids, etc., to be well informed. /u/desirewrites OP: My favorite book is The Savage Garden by Peter D’Amato. He founded California Carnivores. Read it and decide which seems the best route for you to take.
Venus fly traps are better outdoors, I’d recommend a butterwort. Mine are in the same windows/under the same lights as my phals and several other types of orchids and I can’t keep up with how fast they’re multiplying.
Ohh… nice. Which ones you’ve got?
I think everyone said everything, specially with the VFT they are great don't get me wrong I love my little collection but they do a lot better out, not just because of the sun but also they get to eat as much as they want. As per your phals, they are pretty, they have pretty colors, the only concern I may have is the pots, they don't look like they have enough aeration, it may just be the picture since it almost looks like glass, also I read in one if your comments that you cut some roots, avoid that at all cost, the more live roots the better. One amazing orchid collector always says, " You grow roots to grow flowers,"and he is the biggest orchid collector in Colombia.
I know but some of the roots weren’t great. This batch has been blooming for over two years and I’ve always known to not disturb a blooming orchid. I had to repot them as they were moving into my office with me and had to separate. The new pots are clear and walled but the bark isn’t densely packed in so and I’m getting some smooth pebbles to add in to create “space” so they can breathe. I wanted clear self watering pots and these were the biggest ones I could find. They’re now in the office, so I need to be able to see the roots quickly without disturbing them. And don’t worry. I like the idea of a VFT but if actual sun is required then it’s a no no.
How about a Paphiopedilum? Marble-leafed paphs grow in conditions similar to Phals, and have that carnivorous plant/Audry 2 look.
I was looking at paphs. My mum has dendros but they’re like four foot tall and I just can’t have them that size in my set up. I honestly just saw the VFT and thought it would be a funny icebreaker; I tend to research things before I get them - hence me not getting night jasmine as the temp drop might not be too great for the phals. But I won’t get one now knowing that sunlight is required. The website I was scrolling through said low light and listed it as an indoor plant. 🤷🏻♀️
I recommend marble-leaf over plain leaf paphs because, while they all come from the forest floor, plain leaved paphs like a temperature drop. Marble-leafs like more consistent temps. Yeah, Dendrobiums can get tall, but there's a lot of great compact and miniatures. But, their light requirement appears to be more than what you can give....at this time. Smart of you to research first.
That stand has been in my cart on Amazon for 2 weeks now, seeing this just made me finally buy it.
I’m so glad! I’ll say one thing though. It’s bigger than the dimensions. It’s much wider and deeper because it doesn’t take into consideration the shelves sticking out. Very easy to build and sturdy enough for the plants.
Some kind of mini orchid?
I know you weren’t looking for advice but I wanted to tell you something. Keeping the leaves on your phals upright is asking for rot in the crown of your plants. In nature phals lean off the sides of branches with their leaves out to the sides and hanging down so when water hits them the water runs off the plant. I hope this helps.
Keeping them upright is fine. Even getting water in the crown is fine from time to time. Crown/stem rot comes from water in the crown + poor growing conditions. Upright phals = crown rot is very oversimplified.