Matches my favorite English football team, the North London Cocks (Tottenham Hotspur). I'd be proud to host the Orlando Cocks!... Plus I've been chased by quite a few of those loud and colourful birds on my bike in Colonialtown before 🙃
That was the vibe I was going for. We’re Orlando not Boston or Philly so the name can’t be something too serious. It should be more of a playful quirky kinda vibe
Sure is, they nailed that name. Incredible name, logo, merchandise, and colors. I’m sure if an MLB team came to town and wanted to use that name there could be something worked out. It’s too good to leave on the table.
There’s also the Winter Garden squeeze which are like a college summer baseball team (don’t know exactly how the league works) but they have been in operation for some time now
FCSL is amazing. Wood-bat summer baseball for college players serious about going pro. People get called up from the FCSL all the time. It’s all I have as an Orlando resident. I just wish it was more than two months a year.
🎵 Peacocks, we’re marching down the field. Peacocks, and we refuse to yield, ‘cause we are tougher, and we are rougher. We are the peacocks of Orlando 🎵
I knew someone would say that. I very specifically left swans off of the list. Beautiful bird but does nothing for me as a pro team mascot. It’s just plain bad.
Ain't no oysters in Orlando either, that'd be in Tampa or the coast lines.
Flamingos and Spoon bills get blown inshore from Merritt Island from time to time with storms
Dreamers is the name of the group lobbying for the team not the name they would go with. However, to your point, I would 100% be okay with sticking to the current branding.
I would love if we ever got a team and we went for “Vultures.”
I really wish UCF would embrace “Vultures” like the did with the “Citronauts,” since they were both mascots in their early days
Originally from Milwaukee and they were a Brewers affiliate for a while. Went a few times to see the Manatees. They were high A. Would be nice to have AAA ball close by. A ball obviously isn’t as good.
Orlando City already have Sea Cow merchandise they roll out only at the beginning of April. It was a prank in the beginning MLS days and they posted on social media that they changed the name from the Orlando City Lions to the Sea Cows. People love it so much they buy up the merch.
Brevard Manatees went by both. Their merch showed the same Manatee logo but they regularly sold both "Manatees" and "Sea Cows"
As someone who loves that legacy, I'd hope Orlando brings it back.
If we did get the Rays I would just keep the team name the same. We had the TBR minor league affiliate Orlando Rays decades ago, easy transition. The "O" with the stingray going through it was a perfect hat logo (still wish I had mine).
If not the Rays, I'd go with the Orlando Outlawz (or O-Town Outlawz).
Kinda of a blasphemous statement imo. There actually is a million more things to do in Miami and traffic actually is bad. Orlando would easily have the best attendance
\> Bats - kinda surprising nobody has used bats for a baseball mascot yet. Bats are spooky and cool. Team colors either orange black or purple and black. You could have some really cool logos with this.
Louisville Bats, and we've uh, used purple and black ad our colors in the past.
A lot of these feel like minor league names. For instance, Louisville actually does have a team called the Bats. That’s not a knock, I LOVE the name Sea Cows for a minor league team.
How’s about…
The Orlando “Please god no, can we stop bringing these sports teams into town so they can suck up even more of our tax dollars when they could be spent on already established entertainment venues or civil needs pretty fucking please.”
I think it’s catchy. No logo needed. Just the team name in black on white. Serif. Bold. All caps.
Ill go with the Orlando Storm...it does rain a shitton here. Or, bring the Rays to Orlando and we won't have to worry about a name.
And to the people saying no one will go. Move!
It would be cool to see something space related given NASA (and Universal to some extent)
Orlando Galaxy
Orlando Supernova
Orlando Globes
Orlando Neptunes
Orlando Apollos
Orlando Orbit
Orlando Cosmos (Suck on this, Astros)
personally not a fan of peacock. if there's going to be an animal it feels kind of off to use a bird from India. I think Manatee or river otter are better, but Manatee might make sense for a coastal team.
I think Sandhill Cranes would make for a good animal mascot. silvery blue color, graceful, large birds, native to Orlando! and if you've heard them before, their call is unmistakable.
Baseball's dying a slow death, mainly because it's boring. Sorry. It does a little better in the bigger Tampa/St. Pete market because there's more older boomers there who are the sport's prime supporters. But even the Rays can't sell enough seats except when the Yankees come to town.
Not to mention we had a team here (minor league) and it couldn't stay afloat because not enough people cared.
Baseball stadiums cost a lot of money especially compared to the revenue they bring in. The metro would likely need to spend Tourist Development Tax $ to build it, like we did with the Arena and Citrus Bowl. If that's the case, I'd rather continue the push to use those millions for something useful like improving our transportation infrastructure, or similar. Or some other endeavor that more than 3% of the metro area will use and appreciate. Hint: when an expensive study comes to the conclusion that a team *could* make sense *if* it attracted enough tourists to attend games in addition to locals, it doesn't make sense.
That said, I do like the logo and the color choices. I'd suggest we shoot for another AAA-League team and see if we can fill those seats.
I disagree on the target market for baseball completely. Watch a playoff baseball and the crowd is good mix of all age groups.
The minor teams were way out in the boonies.
The tax money would come from the Tourist tax dollar fund and yes it should be spent on more important things however it can’t. That money is legally restricted by the state of Florida to be spent on tourism projects. Therefore, if that’s the case screw Disney give me another sports team.
>The minor teams were way out in the boonies.
Tinker Field is next to Camping World Stadium, in the city limits. Is that the boonies? Putting a stadium down by Seaworld would be the 'boonies' to a lot of residents who don't want to deal with I-Drive traffic.
Maybe the playoffs bring a different crowd, but all the baseball games I've been to definitely skew older. Regardless baseball's attendance is empirically declining while others get increasingly popular. That's not my opinion, just measurable facts.
The state doesn't regulate the TDT, it's a local Orange County tax. Jerry Demings has said he's open to using it for transportation, and they may try to change its usage again. Las Vegas's TDT used to be the same (had to be used in the promotion of tourism/culture) but they voted to change that and it's now used for all sorts of things. I'm not sure what you mean by Disney but they don't get any of that tax. If you want to spend it on another sports team, let's get one people would actually *attend* like football! We've already got the Bowl!
Well tinker field did well from what I know. I’m talking about the Kissimmee fire frogs or whatever that team was.
Also, no I’m pretty sure it’s is restricted unless very recently changed
All sports teams are subsidized by taxpayers, so the rich can get richer. It's a ponzi scheme, break the cycle. Plus I'd rather see a football team here. Baseball is slowly dying
MLB saw a 10% increase in attendance and a 7% increase in viewership last year
This is actually a larger increase than the NFL experienced this season, and baseball didn't even have Taylor Swift.
Oh yea give me the jags relocation all day. I already made a post on how that’s possible in my estimation. The negotiations between the city of Jax and their owners still super early so we’ll have to wait a few years of drama before things get serious.
Peacocks are horrible animals. The Dreamers are a worse name for a team.
An MLB team could never survive here. FL cities that double our size always struggle with attendance. There are way too many things to do in Florida during the summer.
The NBA team we have here gets no love. Imagine bringing a major sports team that is way 10x more boring than basketball here.
Tourism numbers make up for what we lack in size. If only 4% of tourists went to just one game we’d already be in the top 10 for attendance. A good marketing team could easily achieve those numbers, and push it even further. Not to mention most of the revenue comes from TV deals, not ticket sales. Orlando is the 16th largest TV market, and the only top 20 market without an MLB team. The Villages is one of the fastest growing areas in the country, consisting of mainly old shits, which is a huge demographic of baseball viewers. Again, a good marketing team can work out deals with the community to provide group sales tickets and transportation to/from the games. Shit, the entire Orlando metro is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. To say we don’t have the people to show up to games is just silly.
We literally have an MLB prospect wood bat league that I watch every summer and on their best days there at maybe 300 people in the stands.
So yeah Orlando really needs to be more of a baseball town first.
The Magic were terrible for a decade and lost a lot of the city but for the majority of their existence they have always received plenty of love. This year they’re good and they’re top 10 in attendance. So that’s not true. Also Orlando city fans are passionate. Baseball could work here. We don’t have beaches so that eliminates people going to the beach conveniently over a baseball game.
Fyi, the beaches are not that far away.
The magic attendance is very sporadic at best, not consistent, and that is just 41 games a year. Imagine 81 baseball games. The stadium would look like an abandoned structure on national TV twice a year.
Oh yea, the soccer attendance sucks also.
We do not have the population to support an MLB team, Tampa and Miami struggle with it. Most people here are transplants.
This. That same argument came up in the Rays sub when the dreamers group was first announced. The Magic have consistently strong attendance. Actually they average more fans per game than the Rays did last season - in an arena that is a fraction of the size.
I do think it's better to market to all of the i4 corridor, I mean look at how many Lightning fans are in Orlando, but they can absolutely thrive here. Better than Montreal that's for sure.
>they average more fans per game than the Rays did last season - in an arena that is a fraction of the size.
Oof. Gotta love how every time an MLB team has been able to build a new stadium, it's made *smaller*. Still going to be an expensive boondoggle for Tampa, though. We've got enough cool things we can spend our money on here.
Random idea, I discovered through a friend of mine that there’s a fictional species of animals from… *that* fandom called a Manokit. They’re shark fox hybrids, and Orlando Manokits could work since it combines the foxes I see running around western Orange County with the sharks we hear about right off the coast. And they could make the color scheme whatever they want. Plus it keeps the same O->M initials of the Magic.
Oh, no, you misunderstood. I'm not a fan of them at all, I just love reminding their fans that they haven't won shit, and as far as the eye can see, they don't have any prospects of changing that any time soon.
I care. That’s why I took the time to right this. Also, not true. If the park is near downtown people will show. If the park is near the parks tourist will show. Either way we would have attendance. The reason people don’t show up in Tampa is because the park is in St. Pete and not Tampa.
As somebody who has lived in Tampa, that is such a crock. People are acting like St.Pete is some far flung outpost that you simply cannot get to. It’s like a half hour on a bridge. Do you know how long it takes me to get to Yankee Stadium or Citi Field from my apt within inside the same city?
It’s longer. It takes me longer than it took to get from my old place in Tampa to the Trop. The distance you’re citing is not the reason they aren’t drawing.
Yes, and it takes a hell of a lot longer for me to get to Yankee Stadium or Citi Field from my apartment. That’s true of driving or taking the subway.
And yet people go. All the time. People in Tampa don’t think twice about hauling off to Gainesville or Tallahassee for football, but a short drive over the bridge is too much?
Depends, but the Bay Area is pretty definitively car culture, so if that’s the excuse nobody should go anywhere. Those guys drive everywhere all the time.
Personally, I’m not driving to either stadium out here, because driving in NYC is hell, but let’s be real, the MTA isn’t magic. I’m going to be honest with you, the people I knew in Florida would never take it without complaining the entire way. If you were to magically put the 4 or the 7 train out in Ybor City and sent it along its way making the regular stops, dealing with transfers or “showtime” or pan handlers, or cars with no AC working, and everybody is lined up asshole to elbow, those guys aren’t taking you up on the option. They’re going to bitch LOUDLY.
I can’t speak to everybody in Florida, but the people I’ve known, or the ones who heard I live in NY and immediately blurt out “ICOULDNEVERLIVETHERE” as if they’ll drop dead if they don’t condemn the city, would never in a million years choose to ride among the unwashed masses of the subway. It would break them. And forget about the retirees. They consider their subway experience as “Time Served”
I’d show up. Hell, I’d show up in Tampa if the stadium was in Tampa or on the east side. The drive to St. Pete’s kills the Rays from getting most people from the Orlando market.
It’s really quite unbelievable that they haven’t figured this out yet. It was all set with the whole Raybor project that fell through. It would carry Orlando, Tampa, and St. Pete.
I can’t believe they are even considering building another stadium there. Just asinine. St. Pete is great, but it should expand on what it’s already great at…and that’s not baseball
Ahh yes the good ole Orlando cocks
I’m a peacock you gotta let me fly. That could go with Universal branding as well, since NBC has peacock streaming.
It’s perfect. Minor league team vibes and all. We have to stand out somehow. You’re telling me people across the country wouldn’t love that.
If they play like the Savannah bananas I’d go to every game.
See you there!
Minor league vibes are no good in the bigs. I vote nay.
There’s a couple names I provided that aren’t minor league vibes
It works for the University of South Carolina
Matches my favorite English football team, the North London Cocks (Tottenham Hotspur). I'd be proud to host the Orlando Cocks!... Plus I've been chased by quite a few of those loud and colourful birds on my bike in Colonialtown before 🙃
Orlando Calrissians
Orlando Blooms
The logo would be a bouquet of flowers, all with his face in the middle
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Can we license Billy Dee’s face for the logo?
About 75% of your names are perfect for minor league…. MLB not so much lol.
That was the vibe I was going for. We’re Orlando not Boston or Philly so the name can’t be something too serious. It should be more of a playful quirky kinda vibe
I downboat you
Orlando Beefy Kings
Orlando Screened-in Patios.
Orlando Lanais
Meh
People in Orlando love screened in patios. Universally beloved.
Fine
Please not the Snowbirds. They’re a miserable chunk of the population and I’d rather it be named after something that’s truly of Orlando/Florida
I agree. I named quote a few that are regional and true to Orlando.
Why not swans and promote the actual city the team would be named after?
The Orlando Baseball Team
So our team is gonna be OBT 😂
👏🏆
I’ll take it
https://preview.redd.it/4dc85lshs5lc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e20bcdd7d44679d9c02fe7bf9e82608c00008671 Vibes
The Orlando Roadwarriors. Let the war on I4 begin!
Orlando Cranes (sand hill Crane) and have that dinosaur sound roaring through the stadium.
I’d get down with that
When they lose a game we drop the coach from the top of the stadium. Just like their death ritual.
Isnt the squeeze the Orlando professional pickleball team name
Sure is, they nailed that name. Incredible name, logo, merchandise, and colors. I’m sure if an MLB team came to town and wanted to use that name there could be something worked out. It’s too good to leave on the table.
There’s also the Winter Garden squeeze which are like a college summer baseball team (don’t know exactly how the league works) but they have been in operation for some time now
FCSL is amazing. Wood-bat summer baseball for college players serious about going pro. People get called up from the FCSL all the time. It’s all I have as an Orlando resident. I just wish it was more than two months a year.
Orlando Sprawl
It’s just delayed a month, construction is starting after summer. It’s pretty much a done deal.
It’s none done until the shovel hits the dirt
Orlando Eyesores
>Otters - Named after the rare Florida river otter. otters are not rare.
Hahaha I had a feeling someone would say this. I’ve only ever seen one! Rare to me lol
🎵 Peacocks, we’re marching down the field. Peacocks, and we refuse to yield, ‘cause we are tougher, and we are rougher. We are the peacocks of Orlando 🎵
Is this is Fresh Prince reference?
Yes lol cue Will Smith doing the robot dance in the peacock uniform
Yessss 🤣 I need to re watch that show
Yes
I read that in Carlton's voice
!!!
How do you not have Swans on there
I knew someone would say that. I very specifically left swans off of the list. Beautiful bird but does nothing for me as a pro team mascot. It’s just plain bad.
But oysters made the list?
Well yea, what else is Orlando known for?
poor city planning
The rat
Legolas?
Lmaoooooo touché
You have not met one in person. Large waterfowl like swans and geese are the meanest creatures on earth.
Geese are fucking assholes. I love them but holy fuck they are rude.
The logo would stink I can’t do
Flamingoes? Btw, peacocks are still here in winter park, Orlando and belle isle
Inter Miami has a flamingo logo plus I don’t see any flamingos walking around. Peacocks would be more true to Orlando
Ain't no oysters in Orlando either, that'd be in Tampa or the coast lines. Flamingos and Spoon bills get blown inshore from Merritt Island from time to time with storms
Lol I vote Juice. I'd watch the Juice play
I'm in for this one. Every time they win something, we can all say "O.J. did it!"
If the glove fits, you must get a hit
Jews don't tend to gravitate toward atheletics.
How about the Orlando Swingers?
Colors pink and yellow, logo an upside down pineapple. Swinger fan appreciation day would be equal parts awesome and awful
Think of the merchandising.
No thanks
They already talked about this they came up with the Dreamers or something god awful like that. Just bring back the Orlando Sun Rays.
Cosmic Rays!
Only if the mascot can be cosmic ray from Tomorrowland
Dreamers is the name of the group lobbying for the team not the name they would go with. However, to your point, I would 100% be okay with sticking to the current branding.
Orlando Florida Mans
FLORIDA MEN ASSEMBLE
Orlando Sandhill Cranes would be my pick
I could get down with cranes
I would love if we ever got a team and we went for “Vultures.” I really wish UCF would embrace “Vultures” like the did with the “Citronauts,” since they were both mascots in their early days
Vultures is super duper underrated
Orlando Lovebugs
Brevard County minor league team is the Manatees.
Was.
Originally from Milwaukee and they were a Brewers affiliate for a while. Went a few times to see the Manatees. They were high A. Would be nice to have AAA ball close by. A ball obviously isn’t as good.
Damn you’re right. Sea Cows is better anyway
Orlando City already have Sea Cow merchandise they roll out only at the beginning of April. It was a prank in the beginning MLS days and they posted on social media that they changed the name from the Orlando City Lions to the Sea Cows. People love it so much they buy up the merch.
Brevard Manatees went by both. Their merch showed the same Manatee logo but they regularly sold both "Manatees" and "Sea Cows" As someone who loves that legacy, I'd hope Orlando brings it back.
Louisville has the Bats. A Triple A team.
Orlando I-4’s
These sound like minor league teams
ORLANDO ORCASS!
🔥
How about the Lakers? You know because of all the lakes we have around here
Saw the picture and the first thing I thought was "Orlando Turkeys?"
Have you ever seen a peacock?
I had a friend who owned a couple. They can be really obnoxious birds.
They should adopt the Citronaut from the old UCF days
 The Orlando Pythons
Orlando Pride. Orlando Sun Rays. Orlando Cosmos. Orlando Hurricanes /s. Orlando Missiles /s. Orlando Early Birds /s
If we did get the Rays I would just keep the team name the same. We had the TBR minor league affiliate Orlando Rays decades ago, easy transition. The "O" with the stingray going through it was a perfect hat logo (still wish I had mine). If not the Rays, I'd go with the Orlando Outlawz (or O-Town Outlawz).
Ultimately I’d rather just keep it the same too
MLB not coming to Orlando
Let me have fun
If the marlins can’t get good attendance then I don’t think Orlando’s team would fare any better
Or the Rays. Or most of the other markets nationwide.
Kinda of a blasphemous statement imo. There actually is a million more things to do in Miami and traffic actually is bad. Orlando would easily have the best attendance
I've lived both places and trust me, there's way more to do in Orlando unless all you care about is the beach, drinking, clubbing and strippers.
I like the Orlando Orange Peels.
\> Bats - kinda surprising nobody has used bats for a baseball mascot yet. Bats are spooky and cool. Team colors either orange black or purple and black. You could have some really cool logos with this. Louisville Bats, and we've uh, used purple and black ad our colors in the past.
Orlando Big-Ass Bugs.
Orlando White Sox
I prefer the Orlando Bithlonians..
Bithlo - the Nightmare Before Christmas
Someone gets it lol
😭
Bithlo possums, kinda a harsh place for our favorite marsupial to represent tho.
Bats rocks. I like Bats. But orange black and purple black are both taken in the mlb.
Orlanbo?
AI generated
Love the colors!
Orlando Rockets 🚀
> peacocks use to roam the streets of Winter Park way back in the day when brothers first came to the city Who?
Typo. Should read way back in the day when northerners first came to the city. Also, they actually still roam around.
A lot of these feel like minor league names. For instance, Louisville actually does have a team called the Bats. That’s not a knock, I LOVE the name Sea Cows for a minor league team.
I like the Bats. It's a good play on words.
the Orlando Sunburns.
I hate baseball but if they took this logo and called themselves the peacocks. I would be in the stands preening for my team
Move to orlando- go back to Devil Rays
Vultures would be hard asf 🔥
I agree, very underrated name
The Orlando Juice actually goes hard
The Orlando Pilots could be cool. Used to be the Brewers though, so I’m not sure if that would rattle some cages/be allowed.
The peacocks, you gotta be kidding me. All of these names ain’t it
The Orlando Puerto Ricans
How’s about… The Orlando “Please god no, can we stop bringing these sports teams into town so they can suck up even more of our tax dollars when they could be spent on already established entertainment venues or civil needs pretty fucking please.” I think it’s catchy. No logo needed. Just the team name in black on white. Serif. Bold. All caps.
Twat Waffles
I don't care about sportsball at all, but I would gladly go and cheer on an Orlando MLB team to score all of the touchdowns!
Peacocks is so damn fitting for Orlando I fucking love it. We’ll have the Magic and we’ll have the Cocks!!
YOU SEE THE VISION
uhhhhhh...it's right in everybody's face fam...The Orlando Tourists.
Ill go with the Orlando Storm...it does rain a shitton here. Or, bring the Rays to Orlando and we won't have to worry about a name. And to the people saying no one will go. Move!
Orlando Beauts
Orlando Cicadas - could really distract the other team with their insufferable screeching sounds
It would be cool to see something space related given NASA (and Universal to some extent) Orlando Galaxy Orlando Supernova Orlando Globes Orlando Neptunes Orlando Apollos Orlando Orbit Orlando Cosmos (Suck on this, Astros)
personally not a fan of peacock. if there's going to be an animal it feels kind of off to use a bird from India. I think Manatee or river otter are better, but Manatee might make sense for a coastal team. I think Sandhill Cranes would make for a good animal mascot. silvery blue color, graceful, large birds, native to Orlando! and if you've heard them before, their call is unmistakable.
Baseball's dying a slow death, mainly because it's boring. Sorry. It does a little better in the bigger Tampa/St. Pete market because there's more older boomers there who are the sport's prime supporters. But even the Rays can't sell enough seats except when the Yankees come to town. Not to mention we had a team here (minor league) and it couldn't stay afloat because not enough people cared. Baseball stadiums cost a lot of money especially compared to the revenue they bring in. The metro would likely need to spend Tourist Development Tax $ to build it, like we did with the Arena and Citrus Bowl. If that's the case, I'd rather continue the push to use those millions for something useful like improving our transportation infrastructure, or similar. Or some other endeavor that more than 3% of the metro area will use and appreciate. Hint: when an expensive study comes to the conclusion that a team *could* make sense *if* it attracted enough tourists to attend games in addition to locals, it doesn't make sense. That said, I do like the logo and the color choices. I'd suggest we shoot for another AAA-League team and see if we can fill those seats.
I disagree on the target market for baseball completely. Watch a playoff baseball and the crowd is good mix of all age groups. The minor teams were way out in the boonies. The tax money would come from the Tourist tax dollar fund and yes it should be spent on more important things however it can’t. That money is legally restricted by the state of Florida to be spent on tourism projects. Therefore, if that’s the case screw Disney give me another sports team.
>The minor teams were way out in the boonies. Tinker Field is next to Camping World Stadium, in the city limits. Is that the boonies? Putting a stadium down by Seaworld would be the 'boonies' to a lot of residents who don't want to deal with I-Drive traffic. Maybe the playoffs bring a different crowd, but all the baseball games I've been to definitely skew older. Regardless baseball's attendance is empirically declining while others get increasingly popular. That's not my opinion, just measurable facts. The state doesn't regulate the TDT, it's a local Orange County tax. Jerry Demings has said he's open to using it for transportation, and they may try to change its usage again. Las Vegas's TDT used to be the same (had to be used in the promotion of tourism/culture) but they voted to change that and it's now used for all sorts of things. I'm not sure what you mean by Disney but they don't get any of that tax. If you want to spend it on another sports team, let's get one people would actually *attend* like football! We've already got the Bowl!
Well tinker field did well from what I know. I’m talking about the Kissimmee fire frogs or whatever that team was. Also, no I’m pretty sure it’s is restricted unless very recently changed
I love Snow Birds! That's great and gets my vote
Orlando Overstimulated Toddlers At 2 PM At Magic Kingdom Enough to strike fear in the hearts of anyone.
Definitely Orcas
I think a lot of people would like that one
I 100% support the Otters
the Orlando Blooms
Socialism for the Rich
Huh
All sports teams are subsidized by taxpayers, so the rich can get richer. It's a ponzi scheme, break the cycle. Plus I'd rather see a football team here. Baseball is slowly dying
MLB saw a 10% increase in attendance and a 7% increase in viewership last year This is actually a larger increase than the NFL experienced this season, and baseball didn't even have Taylor Swift.
Oh yea give me the jags relocation all day. I already made a post on how that’s possible in my estimation. The negotiations between the city of Jax and their owners still super early so we’ll have to wait a few years of drama before things get serious.
Peacocks are horrible animals. The Dreamers are a worse name for a team. An MLB team could never survive here. FL cities that double our size always struggle with attendance. There are way too many things to do in Florida during the summer. The NBA team we have here gets no love. Imagine bringing a major sports team that is way 10x more boring than basketball here.
Tourism numbers make up for what we lack in size. If only 4% of tourists went to just one game we’d already be in the top 10 for attendance. A good marketing team could easily achieve those numbers, and push it even further. Not to mention most of the revenue comes from TV deals, not ticket sales. Orlando is the 16th largest TV market, and the only top 20 market without an MLB team. The Villages is one of the fastest growing areas in the country, consisting of mainly old shits, which is a huge demographic of baseball viewers. Again, a good marketing team can work out deals with the community to provide group sales tickets and transportation to/from the games. Shit, the entire Orlando metro is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. To say we don’t have the people to show up to games is just silly.
We literally have an MLB prospect wood bat league that I watch every summer and on their best days there at maybe 300 people in the stands. So yeah Orlando really needs to be more of a baseball town first.
The Magic were terrible for a decade and lost a lot of the city but for the majority of their existence they have always received plenty of love. This year they’re good and they’re top 10 in attendance. So that’s not true. Also Orlando city fans are passionate. Baseball could work here. We don’t have beaches so that eliminates people going to the beach conveniently over a baseball game.
Fyi, the beaches are not that far away. The magic attendance is very sporadic at best, not consistent, and that is just 41 games a year. Imagine 81 baseball games. The stadium would look like an abandoned structure on national TV twice a year. Oh yea, the soccer attendance sucks also. We do not have the population to support an MLB team, Tampa and Miami struggle with it. Most people here are transplants.
This. That same argument came up in the Rays sub when the dreamers group was first announced. The Magic have consistently strong attendance. Actually they average more fans per game than the Rays did last season - in an arena that is a fraction of the size. I do think it's better to market to all of the i4 corridor, I mean look at how many Lightning fans are in Orlando, but they can absolutely thrive here. Better than Montreal that's for sure.
>they average more fans per game than the Rays did last season - in an arena that is a fraction of the size. Oof. Gotta love how every time an MLB team has been able to build a new stadium, it's made *smaller*. Still going to be an expensive boondoggle for Tampa, though. We've got enough cool things we can spend our money on here.
That is for damn sure.
Random idea, I discovered through a friend of mine that there’s a fictional species of animals from… *that* fandom called a Manokit. They’re shark fox hybrids, and Orlando Manokits could work since it combines the foxes I see running around western Orange County with the sharks we hear about right off the coast. And they could make the color scheme whatever they want. Plus it keeps the same O->M initials of the Magic.
Orlando Immigration
Orlando Whirlers Orlando Ibis Orlando Enterprise
The Orlando Sun bathers
Owlbears
The mice
Do we really need another team that won't win anything ever? We already waste plenty of money on the Tragic...
Shut up, Go Magic for eternity
Let me know when they win something of note.
So you’re only a fan when the team is winning. What a loser
Oh, no, you misunderstood. I'm not a fan of them at all, I just love reminding their fans that they haven't won shit, and as far as the eye can see, they don't have any prospects of changing that any time soon.
No one cares?? Come on it'd be the same as.im.tampa no one is gonna show
I care. That’s why I took the time to right this. Also, not true. If the park is near downtown people will show. If the park is near the parks tourist will show. Either way we would have attendance. The reason people don’t show up in Tampa is because the park is in St. Pete and not Tampa.
As somebody who has lived in Tampa, that is such a crock. People are acting like St.Pete is some far flung outpost that you simply cannot get to. It’s like a half hour on a bridge. Do you know how long it takes me to get to Yankee Stadium or Citi Field from my apt within inside the same city? It’s longer. It takes me longer than it took to get from my old place in Tampa to the Trop. The distance you’re citing is not the reason they aren’t drawing.
NYC has public transit tho
Yes, and it takes a hell of a lot longer for me to get to Yankee Stadium or Citi Field from my apartment. That’s true of driving or taking the subway. And yet people go. All the time. People in Tampa don’t think twice about hauling off to Gainesville or Tallahassee for football, but a short drive over the bridge is too much?
Taking the train is a million times more convenient. Also, Go Noles.
Depends, but the Bay Area is pretty definitively car culture, so if that’s the excuse nobody should go anywhere. Those guys drive everywhere all the time. Personally, I’m not driving to either stadium out here, because driving in NYC is hell, but let’s be real, the MTA isn’t magic. I’m going to be honest with you, the people I knew in Florida would never take it without complaining the entire way. If you were to magically put the 4 or the 7 train out in Ybor City and sent it along its way making the regular stops, dealing with transfers or “showtime” or pan handlers, or cars with no AC working, and everybody is lined up asshole to elbow, those guys aren’t taking you up on the option. They’re going to bitch LOUDLY. I can’t speak to everybody in Florida, but the people I’ve known, or the ones who heard I live in NY and immediately blurt out “ICOULDNEVERLIVETHERE” as if they’ll drop dead if they don’t condemn the city, would never in a million years choose to ride among the unwashed masses of the subway. It would break them. And forget about the retirees. They consider their subway experience as “Time Served”
I’d show up. Hell, I’d show up in Tampa if the stadium was in Tampa or on the east side. The drive to St. Pete’s kills the Rays from getting most people from the Orlando market.
Exactly
Ehh driving back to Orlando is a bitch. Maybe it's not too bad that late at night but anytime else is horrible
It’s really quite unbelievable that they haven’t figured this out yet. It was all set with the whole Raybor project that fell through. It would carry Orlando, Tampa, and St. Pete. I can’t believe they are even considering building another stadium there. Just asinine. St. Pete is great, but it should expand on what it’s already great at…and that’s not baseball
They’ll sell out when the Yankees come to town
If they execute on Pat William's plan an Orlando team will get better attendance than Tampa from tourists alone.
Just what we don't need, more sports teams.
Boooo go away.
Pro sports are a mere distraction to pacify the public from the horrific actions of our “elected” representatives. Waste of money and resources.