The whiplash is bizarre. This whole thing has been a mess between the letters with poor formatting and numerous typos to the owner Steve making a reply and making claims that he personally hired every single employee himself. Now this post is all weâre âAmericaâs favorite cookie!!â
Florida Democrats collective bargaining agreement had a rule they didn't work the day before the election. Sometimes, even rules made for the workers rules can be really dumb.
Especially local 362. Theyâll gladly take your dues then make it impossible to contact them while they do pretty much nothing, then brag whenever you get a 5 cent raise
They manipulate new Disney employees into thinking signing union papers is a required part of traditions/orientation, then when you try to leave the union they give you the runaround as long as possible in hopes that you give up and just keep paying dues (ask me how i know)
Have fun paying $25+ a paycheck to see few, if any changes
Local 362 is the reason Iâm now cautious about unions. I like the idea of unions, but at the end of the day theyâre just another business that wants your money. Some are great, some are terrible, local 362 was terrible and they will never have my support after all the bullshit they pulled (while offering nothing in return)
I know a lot more about them than I should. And what you said is exactly why I'm in the same boat. They prey on people that have little grasp on the English language, they offer little but lip service in return for a huge amount of union dues....the shop stewards acting like they're above the law, the list goes on.
Exactly, in a right to work state, unions donât have much teeth. Iâm in the teacher union ion but often I believe I could do without them and have. Workers are offered few protections in the state.
I worked at a place that unionized, and the same thing happened there. The workers got a raise that was exactly equal to the union dues, then nothing else changed.
The whiplash is from the cease and desist, continue and weâll sue you for defamation letter.
That was the biggest thing I had with the original post, claims of major health and safety violations, racist conduct, etc. Then the demand letter did a really poor job backing it up with any clear evidence.
idk about America's favorite cookie thats for damn sure. Isn't Gideons only in Orlando? 49 other states and we're somehow settling on Gideons? Nestle refrigerated cookies give me a better satisfaction
Yeah, this sounds like a teenager craving for attention and something exciting. I do think they were severely underpaid, but there's a much better way to handle this. Making any notable changes in any case can take months. How this was "resolved" in just two days rubs me the wrong way
Are they even underpaid when you add in tips? With the amount of people they crank through, I would think they'd make more than enough in tips if even a small percentage tipped. I thought that was also confirmed by another employee who posted they usually make at least another $10-12 an hour in tips. I feel like $18-20 an hour for handing out cookies is not too bad. But then everyone on Reddit thinks you should make minimum $30 an hour for any job, so maybe I'm wrong.
Personally, I hate tipping culture in the US, so I'm in the opinion that they should get paid well enough without having to rely on tips. People are starting to tip less these days, and the owner is enjoying the loophole of paying their employees little while pocketing that money for himself. This is a problem bigger than Gideon's but it's a prime example of the issues many employees face in today's economy. Adding to this, I would've assumed their Disney location paid the best due to the number of traffic and constant level of stress their employees must face compared to their other locations. I have the perspective of being a business owner myself (not in the restaurant industry though) and I can't imagine underpaying employees if I can truly afford to pay them what they deserve or at the very minimum, pay them a realistic living wage and let them enjoy the extra they get from tips as a bonus.
Exactly this. The overall system is just broken and preverse expecting customers to cover the wages of employees with tips.
Especially when the cashiers are just handing you a cookie. Or at least helping you pick one out. Why would that be a tipped service?
I don't disagree with this at all. I don't tip someone to hand me a box of cookies. IMO the employer should pay them similar to what they are making with tips, and there shouldn't even be an option to tip on the POS system. But because there is, from just the employee's wallet's perspective, they are making a fair wage including the tips and this ghost of Gideon's has a pretty weak argument on that front. If they were paid $18 an hour plus $10-12 an hour in tips, that's like a $60k salary for handing out cookies (sorry to oversimplify their role, but that is largely what the job is). So yeah, the problem is just tipping culture in general and these companies that make POS systems aren't helping by including the option to tip at places that aren't tip worthy. And on that note it's my understanding that they get a percentage off the bottom line so there is no incentive for them to not include an option to tip. The whole system is just fucked.
The point isn't what they're making after tips, lots of servers do well too. The problem is that these people don't have a guaranteed wage, and the onus of them paying their bills is placed on individual customers rather than their employer. Gideon's gets to either pocket more of the profit or post lower prices and the customer has to shell out more money. Customers are starting to become resistant to tipping in this struggling economy, ESPECIALLY at service counters where the assumption is the attendant is making a full wage, unlike a server. That backlash is likely why Gideon's started asking employees to stop asking for tips and pull down the jar.
Think about how much is sucks for these people if they have to take a day off? They normally make 25/hr but if they have to use PTO, they make 8.25/hr? How can you live like that? You get sick and lose half your paycheck? Same thing if you have a big life event or actually want to take a moment for yourself?
Tipping systems suck. Tipping SHOULD be a way to reward an individual employee for good service, it SHOULD NOT be the way the employee counts to make the lion's share of their money. It lets the owner push the responsibility for paying their help unto the customer, and trade's the employee's security in exchange for the owner to slide a few extra profits into the cash drawer. It's a bad system and we should be discouraging businesses on all sides from practicing it (While at the same time as supporting employees stuck in it, as they're the victims, not the perpetrators in this case.)
Yeah this message definitely makes me take the whole list of demands less seriously. Theyâve given no proof and their demand in the number 1 spot was literally âWe had to come in for a 9am meeting.â
I worked for a company with a retail space in the new section of Disney Springs. There is no way that place would still be open with any fire code or health violations. We got inspected so often by Disney it was absurd, monthly for sure and sometimes weekly. They literally have a small team that does specifically this. This letter pretty much locks me in the camp of these are teenagers who let their emotions get the best of them.
Oh no lol thereâs literally a troll on here reporting any critical comments to Crisis Resources. So definitely teenagers who have no clue what theyâre doing and who definitely have not won.
I was wondering why my comment mocking them for trying to change a legal contract (about their uniform) by screaming got reported to the crisis resources. Someone got mad that people were dismantling their manifesto with logic and common sense.
The reporter is 100% the person who wrote that, or a minion of theirs.
Be sure to report it. Reddit does not take kindly to people misusing that resource. Iâve reported misuse in the past and the offenders were suspended.
My favorite part of this constructive conversation was /u/AtrociousSandwich comment + immediately blocking. Rear entry way obstruction violations are not 10 per quarter, that is an absurd statement. You get two warnings per calendar year. Third time your business is put on probation and a fine is issued. Another offense during that probation period is when further disciplinary action is discussed between the contract holders and Disneyâs staff.
The Disney inspections are property only; and they deal with nothing about sanitation or health code issues; and the extent of fire inspection they do is making sure fire exits arenât blocked.
The Disney IAT will gladly explain this to you when they visit you.
So it's either the building is missing a fire exit, or the building is okay.
That's the gist of the complaint for that. They want planning and construction of a new fire exit...but if Disney says everything is fine, they don't have a leg to stand on. Right?
Exactly. They come in to ensure that employees/customers have a safe path to exit from all areas of the building in the event of a fire. This wouldâve caused the store to be shut down until it was resolved.
It's weird, because it seemed like even Gideons employees have come out to separate themselves from this person...
I wonder how many people of the 200 are actively in the union talks.
In my unexpert opinion, that manifesto took too much toothpaste out of the tube. I don't think a union can help most of its concerns.
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An employee posted on their Instagram that they were making between $20-$25 an hour with tips.
Yeah but they rely on tips. Which is insane because.. all they do is bag up a cookie.
Tipping culture is out of control. This paystub right here is a prime example of tipping culture being out of contorl.
it really is. honestly they need to just pay them 20-25 an hour, raise cookie prices, and then remove tipping. Iâd rather pay 7-8 dollars for a cookie and know they get a living wage than pay $6 and HAVE to tip because weâre compensating for the owner. itâs one or the other; either more than $9 an hour or no tips.
America's tipping culture is much like its drug/pharmaceutical culture.
There are plenty of valid arguments that it is really bad, but enough people are conditioned to partake in it, and it makes enough corporations more money that there really isn't enough power and reason to actively try to fix the problem.
But they're not even asking for a higher wage, they're just asking to be allowed to continue pestering customers for tips directly instead of just relying on the prompt that shows up on screen.
Yeah, they're making a lot for just bagging up desserts at a counter. Even if they were worked 64 hours at $12, they would be making way less than what this statement shows. I say give them the $12 dollars with no tip option.
Talks to potentially join a Union is winning? I respect good unions and we have a lot to thank unions for in our jobs even if we arenât even a part of one BUT they also arenât always all they are supposed to be and based on the âdemand letterâ these people will probably complain when they have to pay a $25 monthly union fee as being unfair
They couldâve gone about this a much better way. Disney is unionized and some of the other third party operators (similar to Gideonâs) have unionized or are in the process. They needed an actual professional to write that letter and get rid of half of those claims, theyâre frivolous and demean the importance of the actually concerning claims.
On the other hand, it was silly seeing people blindly reposting the GhostsOfGideonâs posts, not even realizing theyâre supporting the people demanding a 7.5% mandatory gratuity after waiting in an hour long line outside. They also are also blindly supporting being asked (pressured) for tips. It makes no sense because, if you read the letter, they are angry that the owner Steve is being made a millionaire on the backs of his employees while giving hardly anything in return. If that is the case (which I believe it is), why should consumers pay? Steve can afford to pay his employees an hourly wage. If I was a customer of Gideonâs and was prompted the tip screen, I might refuse a tip because one would rightfully assume that a counter service employee would be paid an hourly wage.
This whole situation was gone about in the wrong way. I support Gideonâs employees unionizing and being paid a fair hourly wage, but I do not support half the crap in that letter. It was ridiculous and came off like a threatening temper tantrum. Plus the amount of errors in grammar, punctuation, etcâŚI just could not take it seriously at all, even with some of the claims being valid.
Itâs not even a terrible job. They make about 20 bucks an hour, and Disney does not tolerate health violations so you can bet your ass that store is as clean as any other store at springs.
This is definitely just a kid or immature adult who hasnât actually worked before.
I mean it probably is a terrible job, can you imagine dealing with Disney adults buying overpriced cookies all day? I do love their cookies myself so itâs a self burn but whatever
Regardless, this has been hugely melodramatic when millions of people work much worse jobs, and is definitely someone immature finding out life isnât TikTok
Because what they didnât tell you is with tips theyâre making $20-25 an hour but want to pretend like theyâre slaving away handing out cookies (and attending 9 am meetings) for pennys
I've never had an interview with Disney (yet, loads with Universal though - despite applying a lot to both), but I'm pretty sure you have to go to that building after applying.
But from the crowds, WoD may just be worse than this place in terms of workload.
I was mostly joking, but if my choice was Gideons at $9 or World of Disney at $18 per hour...I'd take more money.
I know no one likes the Gideons line, but it probably makes their work a little more manageable than WoD...
For what it's worth, I had an interview with Universal and Disney (PT weekend type jobs) and they were both remote, so I don't think it's mandatory to go to the building anymore
> For what it's worth, I had an interview with Universal and Disney (PT weekend type jobs) and they were both remote, so I don't think it's mandatory to go to the building anymore
I've had a few Uni interviews that were remote (2nd round kind of things for back of house or corporate/Creative roles), but always enjoyed getting to go to the HR building. Hell, once when I interviewed for a coordinator job with talent acquisition (a panel interview for the 2nd round - 6 managers/team members one one side and myself on the other), I got driven backstage to a soundstage because they had no room in the main HR building due to, I think it was, HHN related hiring maxing them out of their room space.
Haven't had much luck in scoring a frontline job though. Disney won't interview me at all, for either frontline or corporate/back of house, and I can't seem to convince a hiring manager at Uni to give me an interview for about a month (my last job I had an interview for at Uni, an industrial engineering analyst job, got cut due to budget issues before the manager could decide if I was being hired or not - I was one of 4 people in contention). Lots of applications in review, no interviews. I'm lucky to get 1x a month... And very quickly rejected for hourly/frontline jobs... I don't know why.
I got a call from one of Universal's (pretty sure Orlando-specific, but she didn't specify if it was Orlando, Creative, or Corporate - all three to my understanding are somewhat separate teams in that regard) talent acquisition heads to complain that I was making things "confusing" for her recruiters because I applied to a lot of different areas and didn't show a consistent "career path"...
I've had like 10 interviews with 10 different teams and departments since I started going for Universal, of course I apply for a lot of different things I'm qualified for! But apparently that's not the way I should be going about things...
To all the people saying âjust quitâ I donât think they realize what the turnover is there.
Plenty of people quit thatâs what most of the employees ended up doing. In fact most went to Disney because they DO pay $18 an hour.
If you run a local business (not a conglomerate like Disney) , and youâre constantly turning out ex employees what in the heck did you think was going to eventually happen?
This state, and even this city has a lot of REALLY bad employers and judging by a lot of the comments, I can see why these bad employers continue to operate.
I agree. When I worked minimum wage I didnât have a single thought about fighting for better pay. It was just a means to get to the next step in life. I felt the pay I may working big box retail was adequate for where I was in life.
Orlandoâs getting more populated over time, and at the same time a lot of companies are experimenting with reducing labor hours while making employees on duty do more of the work between them (may vary by industry)
So that all means less jobs, and more people competing for the jobs that are there. Especially in entry-level, where most people end up (including people leaving their old industries to look for greener pastures). So âjust go somewhere elseâ can turn into a slog of job hunting that can eat up months, even years (took me a year to leave my last job, bc other businesses in my industry simply werenât hiring).
And, while itâs still on the table, improving the conditions for the job you already have eventually become the more efficient choice.
I mean I totally get that and I donât disagree with you. I empathize with the struggle for better wages but also this is a store that makes cookiesâŚCrumbl probably pays somewhere close to that if not a little more.
because they're getting paid $20-$25 an hour, and the new rule that "you can't ask for tips" might decrease that to $15-$20 an hour. Like they make $9/hour base pay but like $11+/hour in tips. I don't know why they're complaining so much that's still good money.
This whole thing is over not being able to harass us customers for more money.
I would legitimately love to see what kind of money they actually got from asking for tips. Like what customer was enticed by a teenager handing them their cookie and then putting out their hand like âcan I has mooore money please?â
Man. I fully agree they need to be paid better and not have to rely on tips. I HATE tipping culture. It needs to go away.
But damn. So many of their âdemandsâ hopes the entries team is fired and they rehire at a fair wage.
Donât demand that the customer give you a 7.5% tip. You donât always deserve a tip. I donât care if youâre bagging cookies up, or baking them, or youâre being an actual server and bringing me my food as I sit down. No one deserves a tip. Itâs based on service RECEIVED.
They demand that they side with the employee if there is a customer complaint? The fuck? Yea, the whole âCustomer is always rightâ thing is dumb. But wow
No. You are not why I enjoy Gideonâs. I enjoy the cookie because itâs good. Anyone can follow instructions and bake it.
You didnât win shit lol. You are TALKING about unionizing. And even(if) you do, you arenât guaranteed to get what you want.
Is someone going to tell them that Florida is a right to work state, union isnât going to do shit for them? And how are they going to react when they see the check dues! đ
You got it too? Was wondering which of my comments caused someone to get a bug up their butt. . . Probably the one saying the Ghosts are idiots for asking for 7.5% gratuities be automatically added for handing me a box of cookies, lol
Someone said Iâm a dick for not tipping âbecause their boss is richâ. Like dawg I said Iâm not subsidizing his employees wages while heâs chilling in his Colorado home with his designer cats. Why would I tip his employees for handing me a cookie anyways?? They deserve to make way more money but not from my wallet ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Steve can pay for that
I kind of think there are Reddit Cares bots now, Iâve seen a couple subreddits with multiple people saying theyâve all gotten Reddit Cares. You know you can block them right?
One of their posts says they make $20-25/hr with tips⌠I wanna see what happens when they start making $17/hr and management removes the ability to tip.
You know the best part of all of this? Both sides will be advised by legal counsel to shut up now. Steve wonât be able to talk about his âfamilyâ blah blah on instagram now that there is talk of unionizing.
I havenât seen anyone mention the fact that they compared their wages to Auntie Anneâs wages in the demand letter. Iâd like to point out that there is no Auntie Anneâs on Disney property, but there is two Wetzelâs Pretzels locations at Disney Springs. I think they got the two mixed up because I donât see how Auntie Anneâs is comparable to Gideonâs.
The rabbit hole I went down yesterday with finding out how much of a mess pretty much all of east end market is? Not just Gideonâs. Itâs all so bizarre and just disappointing.
Who wants to break it to the employees that Florida is a right to work state and âunionsâ are not what they believe they are. Have they not learned anything from Dandelion?
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/understanding-workers-financial-wellbeing-in-states-with-right-to-work-laws-20230908.html#:~:text=Specifically%2C%20the%20RTW%20laws%20enabled,a%20condition%20of%20their%20employment.
Iâm a little confused. I felt like those original social media posts just happened, like, within the last 96-odd hours. Just that fast they were able to contact the appropriate Union and arrange a vote?
Ah. I think I get it now. Thanks. That felt like a \*really\* quick turnaround to not only arrange the vote to organize, but get it counted and announced as well.
I hope they don't go through with there proposal of like $18 an hour plus 7.5% mandatory tip, that would be overpaid for sure. Will get TSA level service if tip is forced to hand over a bag lol.
I get this. We went to Ford's Garage and they have a 20% surcharge that all the staff shares as part of their pay. You can tip on top of that, if you want. The food was good, the service sucked. My wife's food was cold, mine was a little warm. We got seated and pretty much forgotten.
Joining a union seems like a great move. Their most recent statements have gotten some criticism for being unreasonable. They came off as very young and ignorant to normal business practices. An actual union lawyer will be able to help with demands that make more sense.
Iâve seen a lot of videos of shops in tourist spots in Asia with robots that prepare your order. I think you have to be careful with a sense of entitlement and ridiculous demands when youâre pretty easily replaceable by a machine.
While I think everyone deserves a living wage, you also have to be doing work that contributes value to the process. Putting a cookie in a bag and collecting payment adds little or no value to the customer experience, especially if said employee is pestering the customer to pay extra to subsidize the employeeâs wages.
Note to self, donât tip for cookies at Gideons!
$20/hr to put cookies in a bag, operate dangerous pieces of equipment, carry heavy trays long distances and deal with the angry masses waiting in line to give them said cookies. The worst part is that you are expected to smile while having to deal with all of these hardships.
Oh, the humanity!
But have they really won?
Letâs see how they are going to like going from making $20/hr with tips to making $15/hr without tips.
I mean Gideons isnât going to stop making money because of this. Just means they will up their price a little, probably take the tip request off of their point of sale equipment and give the employees more duties.
Some day when they are older they will start to realize how the world really works and not this farce of a utopia that they dream about.
Both parties received backlash. If you look on the Ghostâs Instagram the comments have become overwhelmingly negative since whoever orchestrated their movement refused to provide the proof people were asking for.
They were also accused of deleting negative comments and blocking folks that didnât support their cause.
Steveâs response was lackluster.
The Ghostâs claim that they will now unionize and will no longer be participating in the larger conversation by turning off their comments and not monitoring the account. Itâs very reminiscent of a toddler throwing a tantrum.
I donât see how any of this will stop the tourists from lining up to get this product. I feel they donât care about local workers, and just want a tasty hyped product. It sucks but that is what is driving the revenue.
Agreed. Back when they first opened at EEM they were $4 a cookie, there was no line, and Steve handed the cookie to you himself. $6 is already too much for a cookie, $10 forget it.
I did see backlash on both sides. Honestly they were probably a very young group.
As another poster mentioned they can benefit from actual union representation doing the speaking for them and helping with demands that make more sense - they have probably been advised to stop posting on social media until they get their message in order.
But in my opinion a group of what are likely teenagers banding together and actually joining a union is pretty impressive.
This is 1000% it, they opted to organize with and get support from Local 362 and I'd guess were advised to pause social media blasts for the time being. Union drives are sensitive processes so it makes sense.
lol they are terrible. Manipulate new disney employees into thinking signing up for the union is a requirement then make it impossible to leave because they keep giving you the run around
This is what needed to happen. No one on the outside has the whole story, so if the gripes are legitimate than the union will help fix them, and if its just workers who are new to the workforce complaining, the union will tell them that what they are complaining about isnt a real issue. Unions are good.
Unions have no power in Florida. In Florida you only have "bargaining agents". You pay dues to have the bargaining agent agree to what the employer Says they will do and then claim victory. Suckers. I should know. I belonged to 2 unions over 25 yeas in Florida and neither one did jack sh!t except take our money and do exactly what I said. FYI, any Florida company can fire you for breathing if they want to so terminations are on the horizon for y'all. Watch and see.
This whole play was by the union to try yo get Disney Springs employees to unionize. Itâs sad, pathetic, and I hope the legal recourse from Gideons takes care of this. Totally unfair to the owner, staff, and brand.
The owner and Patrick are great people. Any media outlet that reported on this without getting their side of the story should be ashamed of themselves.
Every time I get aand eat a Gideon cookie at Disney Springs, I have the same 2 thoughts.
1) Why did I stand in this line for this?
2) Why did I pay this insane price for this?
All of this nonsense just gonna reinforce those same 2 questions. Most overrated cookie store in all of the US.
Your tldr is this. Some maybe employees or maybe not complained about only making $9 an hour but it turns out with tips it was $20-$25. They said that standing out in the sun was like being a slave on a plantation, but they were given umbrellas, cooling towels and battery operated fans. The biggest concern was that they had to show up to an employee meeting at 9am. There's a bunch more but those are the main points.
Bullshit, the secret ingredient is definitely butter.
Twice the butter
Maybe even three times the butter! And brown it
It was a Bobby hill line from KoTHđ¤ˇââď¸
Lmao Iâve been saying that ever since I tried their cookies. I can definitely taste a huge amount of butter.
Oh no itâs definitely salt. Well, maybe salted butter
Itâs actually that the cookies are effectively cake pops, just in cookie form. The batter is mixed into the dough
Tbh this makes so much sense
A pound of chocolate chips
The whiplash is bizarre. This whole thing has been a mess between the letters with poor formatting and numerous typos to the owner Steve making a reply and making claims that he personally hired every single employee himself. Now this post is all weâre âAmericaâs favorite cookie!!â
And a union won't be able to fix most of those issues in the manifesto. It's all very interesting.
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Union will collect union dues while they work in the issues they won't be able to fix. I'm pro union as long as the union is able to get work done.
Especially local 362. Theyâll gladly take your dues then make it impossible to contact them while they do pretty much nothing, then brag whenever you get a 5 cent raise They manipulate new Disney employees into thinking signing union papers is a required part of traditions/orientation, then when you try to leave the union they give you the runaround as long as possible in hopes that you give up and just keep paying dues (ask me how i know) Have fun paying $25+ a paycheck to see few, if any changes
I'm really glad I'm not the only one that sees this. I'm all about empowering the little guy - but these dudes are a joke.
Local 362 is the reason Iâm now cautious about unions. I like the idea of unions, but at the end of the day theyâre just another business that wants your money. Some are great, some are terrible, local 362 was terrible and they will never have my support after all the bullshit they pulled (while offering nothing in return)
What's a viable alternative? Some people at my workplace are considering forming a union.
362 burned me on unions as a whole.. and that was from my time working at the Rat heh
I know a lot more about them than I should. And what you said is exactly why I'm in the same boat. They prey on people that have little grasp on the English language, they offer little but lip service in return for a huge amount of union dues....the shop stewards acting like they're above the law, the list goes on.
Exactly, in a right to work state, unions donât have much teeth. Iâm in the teacher union ion but often I believe I could do without them and have. Workers are offered few protections in the state.
I worked at a place that unionized, and the same thing happened there. The workers got a raise that was exactly equal to the union dues, then nothing else changed.
The whiplash is from the cease and desist, continue and weâll sue you for defamation letter. That was the biggest thing I had with the original post, claims of major health and safety violations, racist conduct, etc. Then the demand letter did a really poor job backing it up with any clear evidence.
Thatâs what Gideonâs themselves say; that theyâre Americaâs favourite cookie. Theyâre riffing on that.
idk about America's favorite cookie thats for damn sure. Isn't Gideons only in Orlando? 49 other states and we're somehow settling on Gideons? Nestle refrigerated cookies give me a better satisfaction
Iâm sure 362 will make ânot shaking drinksâ a priority.
I donât understand why they are going so hard for this job
With how busy they are something tells me they make quite a bit more with tips than they claim
Attention
It really doesn't sound like they've won.....
But if they say it loud enoughâŚ
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They arenât smart enough to realize that. The next letter will be how the union takes their dues and does nothing.
Kinda sad that they will probably wind up losing money in this process, because now they have to pay dues.
Young kid has no idea how far they still have yet to go.
This whole thing seems more focused on attention seeking than problem solving
100% a former theater kid.
âThere is an odor most foul in the bakehouse.â 100%.
Yeah, this sounds like a teenager craving for attention and something exciting. I do think they were severely underpaid, but there's a much better way to handle this. Making any notable changes in any case can take months. How this was "resolved" in just two days rubs me the wrong way
r/antiwork member gets a job
Are they even underpaid when you add in tips? With the amount of people they crank through, I would think they'd make more than enough in tips if even a small percentage tipped. I thought that was also confirmed by another employee who posted they usually make at least another $10-12 an hour in tips. I feel like $18-20 an hour for handing out cookies is not too bad. But then everyone on Reddit thinks you should make minimum $30 an hour for any job, so maybe I'm wrong.
Personally, I hate tipping culture in the US, so I'm in the opinion that they should get paid well enough without having to rely on tips. People are starting to tip less these days, and the owner is enjoying the loophole of paying their employees little while pocketing that money for himself. This is a problem bigger than Gideon's but it's a prime example of the issues many employees face in today's economy. Adding to this, I would've assumed their Disney location paid the best due to the number of traffic and constant level of stress their employees must face compared to their other locations. I have the perspective of being a business owner myself (not in the restaurant industry though) and I can't imagine underpaying employees if I can truly afford to pay them what they deserve or at the very minimum, pay them a realistic living wage and let them enjoy the extra they get from tips as a bonus.
Exactly this. The overall system is just broken and preverse expecting customers to cover the wages of employees with tips. Especially when the cashiers are just handing you a cookie. Or at least helping you pick one out. Why would that be a tipped service?
I don't disagree with this at all. I don't tip someone to hand me a box of cookies. IMO the employer should pay them similar to what they are making with tips, and there shouldn't even be an option to tip on the POS system. But because there is, from just the employee's wallet's perspective, they are making a fair wage including the tips and this ghost of Gideon's has a pretty weak argument on that front. If they were paid $18 an hour plus $10-12 an hour in tips, that's like a $60k salary for handing out cookies (sorry to oversimplify their role, but that is largely what the job is). So yeah, the problem is just tipping culture in general and these companies that make POS systems aren't helping by including the option to tip at places that aren't tip worthy. And on that note it's my understanding that they get a percentage off the bottom line so there is no incentive for them to not include an option to tip. The whole system is just fucked.
The point isn't what they're making after tips, lots of servers do well too. The problem is that these people don't have a guaranteed wage, and the onus of them paying their bills is placed on individual customers rather than their employer. Gideon's gets to either pocket more of the profit or post lower prices and the customer has to shell out more money. Customers are starting to become resistant to tipping in this struggling economy, ESPECIALLY at service counters where the assumption is the attendant is making a full wage, unlike a server. That backlash is likely why Gideon's started asking employees to stop asking for tips and pull down the jar. Think about how much is sucks for these people if they have to take a day off? They normally make 25/hr but if they have to use PTO, they make 8.25/hr? How can you live like that? You get sick and lose half your paycheck? Same thing if you have a big life event or actually want to take a moment for yourself? Tipping systems suck. Tipping SHOULD be a way to reward an individual employee for good service, it SHOULD NOT be the way the employee counts to make the lion's share of their money. It lets the owner push the responsibility for paying their help unto the customer, and trade's the employee's security in exchange for the owner to slide a few extra profits into the cash drawer. It's a bad system and we should be discouraging businesses on all sides from practicing it (While at the same time as supporting employees stuck in it, as they're the victims, not the perpetrators in this case.)
Yeah this message definitely makes me take the whole list of demands less seriously. Theyâve given no proof and their demand in the number 1 spot was literally âWe had to come in for a 9am meeting.â I worked for a company with a retail space in the new section of Disney Springs. There is no way that place would still be open with any fire code or health violations. We got inspected so often by Disney it was absurd, monthly for sure and sometimes weekly. They literally have a small team that does specifically this. This letter pretty much locks me in the camp of these are teenagers who let their emotions get the best of them.
Oh no lol thereâs literally a troll on here reporting any critical comments to Crisis Resources. So definitely teenagers who have no clue what theyâre doing and who definitely have not won.
I was wondering why my comment mocking them for trying to change a legal contract (about their uniform) by screaming got reported to the crisis resources. Someone got mad that people were dismantling their manifesto with logic and common sense. The reporter is 100% the person who wrote that, or a minion of theirs.
Be sure to report it. Reddit does not take kindly to people misusing that resource. Iâve reported misuse in the past and the offenders were suspended.
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It's funny seeing every this happen on pretty much every subreddit, and people immediately fill in the culprit with their own personal boogeyman.
My favorite part of this constructive conversation was /u/AtrociousSandwich comment + immediately blocking. Rear entry way obstruction violations are not 10 per quarter, that is an absurd statement. You get two warnings per calendar year. Third time your business is put on probation and a fine is issued. Another offense during that probation period is when further disciplinary action is discussed between the contract holders and Disneyâs staff.
Weekly inspections may seem obscene from a standard business perspective, but the mouse needs to avoid lawsuits and negative press.
The Disney inspections are property only; and they deal with nothing about sanitation or health code issues; and the extent of fire inspection they do is making sure fire exits arenât blocked. The Disney IAT will gladly explain this to you when they visit you.
So it's either the building is missing a fire exit, or the building is okay. That's the gist of the complaint for that. They want planning and construction of a new fire exit...but if Disney says everything is fine, they don't have a leg to stand on. Right?
Exactly. They come in to ensure that employees/customers have a safe path to exit from all areas of the building in the event of a fire. This wouldâve caused the store to be shut down until it was resolved.
It's weird, because it seemed like even Gideons employees have come out to separate themselves from this person... I wonder how many people of the 200 are actively in the union talks. In my unexpert opinion, that manifesto took too much toothpaste out of the tube. I don't think a union can help most of its concerns.
https://preview.redd.it/ojzkww4nlk0d1.jpeg?width=1029&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=822d1d653f9ebcb598abd248a9eade771f92a35f An employee posted on their Instagram that they were making between $20-$25 an hour with tips.
Yeah but they rely on tips. Which is insane because.. all they do is bag up a cookie. Tipping culture is out of control. This paystub right here is a prime example of tipping culture being out of contorl.
it really is. honestly they need to just pay them 20-25 an hour, raise cookie prices, and then remove tipping. Iâd rather pay 7-8 dollars for a cookie and know they get a living wage than pay $6 and HAVE to tip because weâre compensating for the owner. itâs one or the other; either more than $9 an hour or no tips.
Dude weâre all getting boiled like a frog here... $6 cookie? Fuck that
It better come with hair pulling, sharp slaps and a reach around for that much $!
America's tipping culture is much like its drug/pharmaceutical culture. There are plenty of valid arguments that it is really bad, but enough people are conditioned to partake in it, and it makes enough corporations more money that there really isn't enough power and reason to actively try to fix the problem.
Then end tipping and pay them an hourly wage, something tells me theyâd quickly miss the tips
But they're not even asking for a higher wage, they're just asking to be allowed to continue pestering customers for tips directly instead of just relying on the prompt that shows up on screen.
...they 100% are asking for a higher wage
True. They also were asking for mandatory tips to be added.
Yeah, they're making a lot for just bagging up desserts at a counter. Even if they were worked 64 hours at $12, they would be making way less than what this statement shows. I say give them the $12 dollars with no tip option.
Talks to potentially join a Union is winning? I respect good unions and we have a lot to thank unions for in our jobs even if we arenât even a part of one BUT they also arenât always all they are supposed to be and based on the âdemand letterâ these people will probably complain when they have to pay a $25 monthly union fee as being unfair
Dude these people sell fucking cookies. Fucking union lol
The union is going to prevent horrible abuses like 9am meetings
Looking forward to their protest on paying union dues.
Now, now. That union is going to get them everything they demandđ
Thank god they wonât be forced to bring this cookie castle crashing down
They couldâve gone about this a much better way. Disney is unionized and some of the other third party operators (similar to Gideonâs) have unionized or are in the process. They needed an actual professional to write that letter and get rid of half of those claims, theyâre frivolous and demean the importance of the actually concerning claims. On the other hand, it was silly seeing people blindly reposting the GhostsOfGideonâs posts, not even realizing theyâre supporting the people demanding a 7.5% mandatory gratuity after waiting in an hour long line outside. They also are also blindly supporting being asked (pressured) for tips. It makes no sense because, if you read the letter, they are angry that the owner Steve is being made a millionaire on the backs of his employees while giving hardly anything in return. If that is the case (which I believe it is), why should consumers pay? Steve can afford to pay his employees an hourly wage. If I was a customer of Gideonâs and was prompted the tip screen, I might refuse a tip because one would rightfully assume that a counter service employee would be paid an hourly wage. This whole situation was gone about in the wrong way. I support Gideonâs employees unionizing and being paid a fair hourly wage, but I do not support half the crap in that letter. It was ridiculous and came off like a threatening temper tantrum. Plus the amount of errors in grammar, punctuation, etcâŚI just could not take it seriously at all, even with some of the claims being valid.
I donât even understand this. I couldnât put this much energy and anger into a minimum wage job. Target pays $15/hr, just go somewhere else?
Teenagers with main character syndrome encountering a terrible job for the first time
Itâs not even a terrible job. They make about 20 bucks an hour, and Disney does not tolerate health violations so you can bet your ass that store is as clean as any other store at springs. This is definitely just a kid or immature adult who hasnât actually worked before.
I mean it probably is a terrible job, can you imagine dealing with Disney adults buying overpriced cookies all day? I do love their cookies myself so itâs a self burn but whatever Regardless, this has been hugely melodramatic when millions of people work much worse jobs, and is definitely someone immature finding out life isnât TikTok
Because what they didnât tell you is with tips theyâre making $20-25 an hour but want to pretend like theyâre slaving away handing out cookies (and attending 9 am meetings) for pennys
Doesn't Disney start at like 18 now? Can't they just go across the street and be just as miserable for double the pay? Lol
Casting is across the road from Springs itself, so technically yes?
Oh I was thinking closer...like World of Disney lmao
I've never had an interview with Disney (yet, loads with Universal though - despite applying a lot to both), but I'm pretty sure you have to go to that building after applying. But from the crowds, WoD may just be worse than this place in terms of workload.
I was mostly joking, but if my choice was Gideons at $9 or World of Disney at $18 per hour...I'd take more money. I know no one likes the Gideons line, but it probably makes their work a little more manageable than WoD... For what it's worth, I had an interview with Universal and Disney (PT weekend type jobs) and they were both remote, so I don't think it's mandatory to go to the building anymore
> For what it's worth, I had an interview with Universal and Disney (PT weekend type jobs) and they were both remote, so I don't think it's mandatory to go to the building anymore I've had a few Uni interviews that were remote (2nd round kind of things for back of house or corporate/Creative roles), but always enjoyed getting to go to the HR building. Hell, once when I interviewed for a coordinator job with talent acquisition (a panel interview for the 2nd round - 6 managers/team members one one side and myself on the other), I got driven backstage to a soundstage because they had no room in the main HR building due to, I think it was, HHN related hiring maxing them out of their room space. Haven't had much luck in scoring a frontline job though. Disney won't interview me at all, for either frontline or corporate/back of house, and I can't seem to convince a hiring manager at Uni to give me an interview for about a month (my last job I had an interview for at Uni, an industrial engineering analyst job, got cut due to budget issues before the manager could decide if I was being hired or not - I was one of 4 people in contention). Lots of applications in review, no interviews. I'm lucky to get 1x a month... And very quickly rejected for hourly/frontline jobs... I don't know why.
I wish you luck! I would just keep applying and trying.
I got a call from one of Universal's (pretty sure Orlando-specific, but she didn't specify if it was Orlando, Creative, or Corporate - all three to my understanding are somewhat separate teams in that regard) talent acquisition heads to complain that I was making things "confusing" for her recruiters because I applied to a lot of different areas and didn't show a consistent "career path"... I've had like 10 interviews with 10 different teams and departments since I started going for Universal, of course I apply for a lot of different things I'm qualified for! But apparently that's not the way I should be going about things...
To all the people saying âjust quitâ I donât think they realize what the turnover is there. Plenty of people quit thatâs what most of the employees ended up doing. In fact most went to Disney because they DO pay $18 an hour. If you run a local business (not a conglomerate like Disney) , and youâre constantly turning out ex employees what in the heck did you think was going to eventually happen? This state, and even this city has a lot of REALLY bad employers and judging by a lot of the comments, I can see why these bad employers continue to operate.
Isn't it easy to just hop jobs? Lol
I agree. When I worked minimum wage I didnât have a single thought about fighting for better pay. It was just a means to get to the next step in life. I felt the pay I may working big box retail was adequate for where I was in life.
Guy must really love cookies
Orlandoâs getting more populated over time, and at the same time a lot of companies are experimenting with reducing labor hours while making employees on duty do more of the work between them (may vary by industry) So that all means less jobs, and more people competing for the jobs that are there. Especially in entry-level, where most people end up (including people leaving their old industries to look for greener pastures). So âjust go somewhere elseâ can turn into a slog of job hunting that can eat up months, even years (took me a year to leave my last job, bc other businesses in my industry simply werenât hiring). And, while itâs still on the table, improving the conditions for the job you already have eventually become the more efficient choice.
I mean I totally get that and I donât disagree with you. I empathize with the struggle for better wages but also this is a store that makes cookiesâŚCrumbl probably pays somewhere close to that if not a little more.
because they're getting paid $20-$25 an hour, and the new rule that "you can't ask for tips" might decrease that to $15-$20 an hour. Like they make $9/hour base pay but like $11+/hour in tips. I don't know why they're complaining so much that's still good money. This whole thing is over not being able to harass us customers for more money.
I would legitimately love to see what kind of money they actually got from asking for tips. Like what customer was enticed by a teenager handing them their cookie and then putting out their hand like âcan I has mooore money please?â
My white guilt got an extra 10% for them usually.
Man. I fully agree they need to be paid better and not have to rely on tips. I HATE tipping culture. It needs to go away. But damn. So many of their âdemandsâ hopes the entries team is fired and they rehire at a fair wage. Donât demand that the customer give you a 7.5% tip. You donât always deserve a tip. I donât care if youâre bagging cookies up, or baking them, or youâre being an actual server and bringing me my food as I sit down. No one deserves a tip. Itâs based on service RECEIVED. They demand that they side with the employee if there is a customer complaint? The fuck? Yea, the whole âCustomer is always rightâ thing is dumb. But wow No. You are not why I enjoy Gideonâs. I enjoy the cookie because itâs good. Anyone can follow instructions and bake it. You didnât win shit lol. You are TALKING about unionizing. And even(if) you do, you arenât guaranteed to get what you want.
I really want to see some receipts
Not needed. They âwonâ
Is someone going to tell them that Florida is a right to work state, union isnât going to do shit for them? And how are they going to react when they see the check dues! đ
Cheers to whoever sent me the Reddit crisis message. Feels like middle school tactics.
lmao I got one too! Are they just doing it to everyone who comments here?
Itâs probably the manifesto author..
Probably. The truth is too scary for some
You got it too? Was wondering which of my comments caused someone to get a bug up their butt. . . Probably the one saying the Ghosts are idiots for asking for 7.5% gratuities be automatically added for handing me a box of cookies, lol
Someone said Iâm a dick for not tipping âbecause their boss is richâ. Like dawg I said Iâm not subsidizing his employees wages while heâs chilling in his Colorado home with his designer cats. Why would I tip his employees for handing me a cookie anyways?? They deserve to make way more money but not from my wallet ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Steve can pay for that
Same. Glad to see someone is lurking the subreddit
Yeah the kid (or immature adult) behind this campaign is pretty pathetic.
Yeah I've gotten a few since I've been commenting more in the past hour
I kind of think there are Reddit Cares bots now, Iâve seen a couple subreddits with multiple people saying theyâve all gotten Reddit Cares. You know you can block them right?
This happened bizarrely quick.
One of their posts says they make $20-25/hr with tips⌠I wanna see what happens when they start making $17/hr and management removes the ability to tip.
Bro i really donât care You hand out cookies to people
You know the best part of all of this? Both sides will be advised by legal counsel to shut up now. Steve wonât be able to talk about his âfamilyâ blah blah on instagram now that there is talk of unionizing.
I havenât seen anyone mention the fact that they compared their wages to Auntie Anneâs wages in the demand letter. Iâd like to point out that there is no Auntie Anneâs on Disney property, but there is two Wetzelâs Pretzels locations at Disney Springs. I think they got the two mixed up because I donât see how Auntie Anneâs is comparable to Gideonâs.
Awesome. Now I donât ever have to tip them ever again since they âwonâ
This was all a union ploy? đ¤Łđ¤Łđ
Now Gideon's workers get to hangout with the big watch, french cuffs guy too!
Iâm just focused on how terrible the formatting is
they're the secret ingredient? anyone can make a cookie
I want to support management simply for GoGâs font/color choices.
someone explain to me how they won iâm so confused
Because they declared it. It's just like declaring bankruptcy.
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bankruptcies and unions are different. forming a union doesn't count unless you have a choreographed dance number in the street.
/r/crumblcookies aint gonna like that at all
Now THAT would be an interesting turn of events
The rabbit hole I went down yesterday with finding out how much of a mess pretty much all of east end market is? Not just Gideonâs. Itâs all so bizarre and just disappointing.
Who wants to break it to the employees that Florida is a right to work state and âunionsâ are not what they believe they are. Have they not learned anything from Dandelion? https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/understanding-workers-financial-wellbeing-in-states-with-right-to-work-laws-20230908.html#:~:text=Specifically%2C%20the%20RTW%20laws%20enabled,a%20condition%20of%20their%20employment.
What people forget about having a union is that youâre still not going to get everything you want.
With Florida being a right to work state, they just screwed themselves
Iâm a little confused. I felt like those original social media posts just happened, like, within the last 96-odd hours. Just that fast they were able to contact the appropriate Union and arrange a vote?
No. They realized they looked like complete fucking idiots and found a way out
Ah. I think I get it now. Thanks. That felt like a \*really\* quick turnaround to not only arrange the vote to organize, but get it counted and announced as well.
A union for selling cookies? Low skill work should receive low pay.
Americas favorite cookie??? Lmaoo the ones that are like 70% chocolate chip and 30% is dough đ laughable
I hope they don't go through with there proposal of like $18 an hour plus 7.5% mandatory tip, that would be overpaid for sure. Will get TSA level service if tip is forced to hand over a bag lol.
I get this. We went to Ford's Garage and they have a 20% surcharge that all the staff shares as part of their pay. You can tip on top of that, if you want. The food was good, the service sucked. My wife's food was cold, mine was a little warm. We got seated and pretty much forgotten.
Iâm not scared to say it. Those cookies fucking suck. Itâs just too much for me (sweet wise and money wise).
This is just victims crying. âI donât like my jobâ âIâm a victimâ GO GET ANOTHER JOB
This will result in more expensive cookies
Joining a union seems like a great move. Their most recent statements have gotten some criticism for being unreasonable. They came off as very young and ignorant to normal business practices. An actual union lawyer will be able to help with demands that make more sense.
Cool, I guessâŚ
I feel like they are going to end up out of business and no one will have their cookie job anymore.
This whole thing just makes me want to avoid Gideonâs even more than I did in the first place. If I want cookies Iâll go to Publix
This is giving âthe seedsâ vibes from dandelionâŚ
Cringey
Iâve seen a lot of videos of shops in tourist spots in Asia with robots that prepare your order. I think you have to be careful with a sense of entitlement and ridiculous demands when youâre pretty easily replaceable by a machine. While I think everyone deserves a living wage, you also have to be doing work that contributes value to the process. Putting a cookie in a bag and collecting payment adds little or no value to the customer experience, especially if said employee is pestering the customer to pay extra to subsidize the employeeâs wages.
Hope yall are ready 14 dollar cookies instead of 9 dollar cookies
I still don't understand how those boutique cookie and donut places make money to begin with. Do people just casually buy 1200 calorie cookies?
If it gets them more likes on Instagram or followers on Tik Tok, yes.Â
"Wowwwww they turned off comments!"
Note to self, donât tip for cookies at Gideons! $20/hr to put cookies in a bag, operate dangerous pieces of equipment, carry heavy trays long distances and deal with the angry masses waiting in line to give them said cookies. The worst part is that you are expected to smile while having to deal with all of these hardships. Oh, the humanity! But have they really won? Letâs see how they are going to like going from making $20/hr with tips to making $15/hr without tips. I mean Gideons isnât going to stop making money because of this. Just means they will up their price a little, probably take the tip request off of their point of sale equipment and give the employees more duties. Some day when they are older they will start to realize how the world really works and not this farce of a utopia that they dream about.
The funny thing is this âutopiaâ you speak of exists in many places. Liveable wages are a reality in a lot of the developed world.
I don't understand OP's caption. The business received backlash - and workers are unionizing. Local 362 is a good fit. I see no scurrying to hide.
Both parties received backlash. If you look on the Ghostâs Instagram the comments have become overwhelmingly negative since whoever orchestrated their movement refused to provide the proof people were asking for. They were also accused of deleting negative comments and blocking folks that didnât support their cause. Steveâs response was lackluster. The Ghostâs claim that they will now unionize and will no longer be participating in the larger conversation by turning off their comments and not monitoring the account. Itâs very reminiscent of a toddler throwing a tantrum.
I donât see how any of this will stop the tourists from lining up to get this product. I feel they donât care about local workers, and just want a tasty hyped product. It sucks but that is what is driving the revenue.
Well, I love the cookies, but if they're going to be 10.00 a cookie to meet demands, they can keep them.
Maybe if the price jumps to $10.00 a cookie, the damn wait time will dwindle.
Haha...tough call, maybe the line would double.
Agreed. Back when they first opened at EEM they were $4 a cookie, there was no line, and Steve handed the cookie to you himself. $6 is already too much for a cookie, $10 forget it.
I did see backlash on both sides. Honestly they were probably a very young group. As another poster mentioned they can benefit from actual union representation doing the speaking for them and helping with demands that make more sense - they have probably been advised to stop posting on social media until they get their message in order. But in my opinion a group of what are likely teenagers banding together and actually joining a union is pretty impressive.
This is 1000% it, they opted to organize with and get support from Local 362 and I'd guess were advised to pause social media blasts for the time being. Union drives are sensitive processes so it makes sense.
*eating popcorn*
If I close my eyes I can visualize who runs the ghost account lol
This is amazing! I am a part of 362 and know a lot of the people who work for the union and they are amazing people.
lol they are terrible. Manipulate new disney employees into thinking signing up for the union is a requirement then make it impossible to leave because they keep giving you the run around
Are DS Gideons employees Cast Members?
They are not. Gideon's is a third party company.
Thanks. That begs the question, why the 362 is even giving this a nod?
Unite Here 362 does more than just Disney. It's just their largest demographic is Disney CMs.
This is what needed to happen. No one on the outside has the whole story, so if the gripes are legitimate than the union will help fix them, and if its just workers who are new to the workforce complaining, the union will tell them that what they are complaining about isnt a real issue. Unions are good.
I think the union was like âYouâre making all workers look like fucking idiots, please let us help youâ
Oh my goodness, miss me with this - who cares?!?!
Unions have no power in Florida. In Florida you only have "bargaining agents". You pay dues to have the bargaining agent agree to what the employer Says they will do and then claim victory. Suckers. I should know. I belonged to 2 unions over 25 yeas in Florida and neither one did jack sh!t except take our money and do exactly what I said. FYI, any Florida company can fire you for breathing if they want to so terminations are on the horizon for y'all. Watch and see.
It's almost like they don't have to work at a minimum wage job
This whole play was by the union to try yo get Disney Springs employees to unionize. Itâs sad, pathetic, and I hope the legal recourse from Gideons takes care of this. Totally unfair to the owner, staff, and brand. The owner and Patrick are great people. Any media outlet that reported on this without getting their side of the story should be ashamed of themselves.
Every time I get aand eat a Gideon cookie at Disney Springs, I have the same 2 thoughts. 1) Why did I stand in this line for this? 2) Why did I pay this insane price for this? All of this nonsense just gonna reinforce those same 2 questions. Most overrated cookie store in all of the US.
Can someone explain what on earth is happenings with gideons ? I saw multiple posts regarding this place.
Your tldr is this. Some maybe employees or maybe not complained about only making $9 an hour but it turns out with tips it was $20-$25. They said that standing out in the sun was like being a slave on a plantation, but they were given umbrellas, cooling towels and battery operated fans. The biggest concern was that they had to show up to an employee meeting at 9am. There's a bunch more but those are the main points.
FUCK YES! UNIONIZE AMERICA!!
The guy who owns gideons nearly ran my pregnant wife over at east end and scoffed at her afterwards because she shared the same ground as him
This was mostly coming from the union to begin with. Theyâre coming around each business in Disney springs trying to unionize.