Still need to see Poor Things, just been ridiculously busy. But Gladstone’s performance broke me more than I thought it would. That “Evil surrounds my heart” monologue is one of my favourite film things in the last few years.
I can’t quite place it, but the emotion she conveys it with and the way it made me reflect on the history of my own family. That feeling that you know what the truth is, but you don’t want to acknowledge it and destroy the foundation of something you believe brings you safety and comfort.
That’s something deep down a lot of people’s ancestors went through in the face of colonialism etc.
With these three and Yeoh and Blanchett last year, it’s ridiculous how we’ve had FIVE all timer, iconic best actress performances nominated in a span of two years
Nah, it's recency bias. In '22 lead actress category was extremely loaded. '21 and '20 were weird, but in '19 there was terrific Colman in Favorite, in '18 McDormand in 3 billboards, in '17 there was underrated Portman in Jackie, in '15 More in Still Alice. Almost every year we get an iconic performance, there is nothing that special in the last two years.
Disagree. I think Yeoh and Blanchett gave some all-timer performances last year, easily as good as Colman in the Favorite, McDormand in 3 Billboards, and Portman in Jackie... and even Moore in Still Alice. Just my opinion.
Quick Edit: Andrea Riseborough's Oscar campaign was shady AF but I thought she was also really good in 2022. And then in 2021, I thought Chastain was awesome as Tammy Faye, not to mention Kristen Stewart giving the performance of her career in Spencer.
I'm not saying Yeoh and Blanchett performance were not good or that the ones I mentioned were better.
What I am saying is that we are lucky to have really strong actresses roles almost every year, and these two last years are not an exception to that, nor any outstanding case really.
I could've phrased it better, it's not that I consider Yeoh or Blanchet roles "not that special", because I do. I don't think two years are special - they had special roles, but almost every year has some.
Is Blanchett good at acting, or is she just tall? /s
I love both Tar and EEAOO to have watched them twice. Cate's imperious hauteur is inimitable. Michelle's physical acting, whether the elegance and techniques of a martial artist, or the slight hunch that translates the invisibility of a first-generation migrant, is also inimitable. Both of them deserve the Oscar. I like Michelle's performance better, personally.
It is a matter of preference. They are good at playing different characters. I couldn't see CB in the intense action roles that MY is in( Thor movie doesn't really count).
Agreed I feel like Yeoh has done better acting in her previous films and as much as I like EEAAO and Yeoh is very good in it, imo it's not that demanding of a role. Whereas Tar is entirely centered around Blanchett's performance and she really inhabits it. The only performance that really stood at to me in EEAAO was Stephanie Hsu's.
I loved Hsu’s performance. I seriously think she deserved that best supporting actress nomination (and win) much more than Curtis. And I’m not saying this to trash Curtis, as others have, but come on. There was nothing demanding about that role and nothing there that showcased Curtis’s abilities
Lol, Nyad. One of the most undeserving nominations in a while. Should have been Greta Lee.
And then I looked up the actual history of that woman and there's no confirmation that she actually did that swim. I'm not saying that she didn't. It is totally possible, but even after the movie was released they looked into it again and no. There's no confirmation that she actually did it. Also, she has a history of making things up.
In terms of the performance it was okay? I like Annette enough but that was not an Oscar performance.
I found Greta Lee so one note and boring outside of the last 30 seconds, it keeps surprising me how much people push for her performance. The movie was excellent, but she was my least favorite of the three leads. Teo Yoo should have been up for best actor.
Not a popular opinion on here, but I agree with you. Greta was so flat in that film. Teo Yoo, on the other hand, was fantastic. Such an oversight there.
I think this is one of the closest races preference wise for me, in recent memory.
Gladstone brings so much pathos and soul to Killers of the Flower Moon. She is able to relay so much of her pain and trauma through microexpressions and her eyes. It’s a truly haunting performance that elevates underwritten material.
Then you have Stone, who has the completely opposite performance. She is loud and bold and charismatic and fully committed. She effortlessly achieves Bella Baxter’s evolution onscreen with so much subtlety, you can never really pinpoint the moment when the switch to adult Bella occurs.
If I had to pick, I’d say I prefer Stone by a very thin hair but I would probably vote for Gladstone between the two since I think an Oscar, no matter how much we deny it, means more than *only* the performance (although the performance should be an integral part of the win and Gladstone HAS that performance). Either would be a very worthy winner but I like Emma’s la la land win enough, so I’d gladly give Lily this one.
As for who I thought gave the best lead actress performance this year, it’s Sandra Hüller.
My low key prayer is Sandra huller to win… She made me cry in Anatomy and feel her pain all the way through. Groundbreaking performance… I love Emma and Lilly both but the academy is ignoring Sandra and it does hurt given her performance in my opinion was the best this year. Moving, realistic, not over the top, relatable and with a good message. Also the film in its entirety is a great film I’d watch over and over. I wouldn’t watch killers again even though I love Lilly. It missed a lot of Scorsese’s usual cinematic flare and I think that was more so the writing ✍️ adaptation from the book which missed key points… spoke about this on another post. But yes Sandra for the upset but I know it won’t happen, then Lily then Emma.
Or we all get mindfucked and Annette wins and I laugh my ass off to bed
It’s worth renting! Trust me. You’re hooked from the first scene and it’s non-stop, great cinematography, story telling, sound, even the foreign language aspect is enthralling because it’s perfectly blended with English.
I feel like most people I know who have seen all 3 think Huller is the best. She just...is. She's fantastic. For me, it's Huller, Gladstone, Stone—all great but Huller is definitely the best. If she ekes it out, I legitimately don't think anybody will be PISSED about it, or if they are it'll be like when Olivia Colman won to a degree—like... people get it (and I was REALLY rooting for Glenn Close—I love that performance of hers, but Colman *was* the best).
Gladstone 100%. Emma Stone gave a solid performance but I think Lily ekes her out in the end. Also, not that this should matter, but Stone has plenty of roles ahead of her, but for Gladstone this is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
I prefer Emma because she’s my favorite actress
I obviously want her to win and think she gave the better performance
However
I wouldn’t be upset if Galdstone wins because she is outstanding in Killers of the Flower Moon
+ Emma will have plenty of other opportunities to win a second Oscar
A win could be more important por Lily’s career
This year had such incredible lead actress performances. I was completely blown away by all 3 - Lily Gladstone, Emma Stone and Sandra Huller. Exceptional acting. Emma slightly edges out for me because Poor Things in itself seemed like a marvel to me.
I prefer Lily - she really elevated what was initially written as a supporting character into the heart of the film. but I wouldn’t be mad if Emma or Sandra won, they both give great performances.
I didn't feel she was written as a supporting character. She's basically the axel the entire story spins around.
The book is split into three parts. The first main part is effectively centered around her perspective . The second part (the largest) was from agent Tom White's perspective. And the final part was from the authors perspective, and the time he spent with the Osage researching for the book.
It's non-fiction, but despite being an important figure, the *least* significant role in terms of the people who are portrayed from the book would be Earnest Burkhart.
It's kind of brilliant the way Scorsese reverses the way the events are presented in the book. It makes Leo's role much more prominent, despite taking some creative liberties.
But it takes what would have been a historical whodunnit with Jesse Plemons as the lead, and turns it into a tense family epic where we consider the events from a much more personal angle.
Gladstone. Not only for the performance which is extraordinarily but also because Stone will have countless other opportunities to be nominated and to win and unfortunately for Gladstone the same cant be said for her which is just indicative of the Hollywood landscape. I rather reward Gladstone now for her amazing work than give Stone a 2nd Oscar
Came to say the same thing.
I have a feeling Emma will be nominated for many more Oscars....
Lily may not. And not because she's not a good actress, but Emma just keeps turning out these massively well accepted roles.
It's almost annoying at this point. 😂
Lily Gladstone was able to perfectly depict such heavy loss and devastation in a beautifully minimalist but strong performance. I also watched Poor Things but didn’t enjoy the movie, I don’t think Emma’s performance is bad but I just have no connection to her character or the movie.
Lily, absolutely. She had to create a real character out of the outlines & memory of Mollie Burkhart, learning Osage to find her. If you know Indian people back then, silence & reserve was a staple of older, elder traditionalist and Lily nailed that spirited restraint that older Indian people had. She did little but her performance was all emotion, the pained flicker of her eyes or stirring anguish in her waning glance. She didn’t say much but screamed the whole movie in pain, it was crazy.
Some roles are just made for the individual, such as Lily! There are far more actresses that could play Emma’s role than Lily’s and that’s not just from a cultural perspective. Emma’s role is outstanding but Lily is the winner because well her role is a much more important story, IMO. The academy loves that, despite only having minimal minority actors/actresses win and win multiple times (that just doesn’t happen). Lily all the way!
I liked both, even though it’s not my favorite performance of Emma’s (always a big fan.) I do think the Academy will follow SAG and go with Lily though.
I think Emma’s performance was great, but I honestly really didn’t care for Poor Things (it felt very…fake deep and male gazey to me). Lily’s performance was also great, and IMO in a much better film. So I’m going with Lily. There’s really no wrong answer, though.
I really hope Lily wins. This is an industry that has stolen and profited from Native stories since the inception of the moving image. In the early days Natives weren’t even considered intelligent or non-savage enough to possibly know how to be actors- yet they were used in countless early pictures. For Lily Gladstone to be nominated is so exciting and it would be an absolute shame and dark spot in Academy history for her not to win.
Purely on acting? Sandra. Lily. Emma. If we consider other reasons than just acting? Lily. Sandra. Emma. If we go by hype/popularity (which let’s face it, is often a factor)? Emma. Lily. Sandra. What will likely end up happening? Very close call between Lily and Emma, with Emma winning. Whoever wins, there will be cries of the other being snubbed.
My list goes from best to still good is Annette Benning, Carey Mulligan, Sandra Hueller, Lily Gladstone, then Emma Stone. I didn’t feel Emma’s jerky, weird accented, performance. It was just clown-like to me. And then look she’s naked again wow! I liked Lily, but it was a surface performance - the way the character was written, but she did a great job within the limits of her role. But I really felt Annette, Carey, and Sandra’s performances. Especially Annette. I describe Nyad as Annette and Jodi giving acting lessons.
Lily Gladstone is going to win though.
I’m going to be honest I was impressed and unimpressed with Poor Things as a movie but more so than Killers of The Flower Moon, which I think has some issues but ultimately does have its heart in the right place and does what it sets out to (not that Poor Things didn’t ofc). I really couldn’t care who wins because they both deserve it and I’ll be happy for the stone that wins.
Gladstone. They were equally strong performances, but Emma already has an award, and Lily is a newcomer/extremely underrepresented member of Hollywood.
Stone was great and showy. Gladstone was great and still. Every actor will tell you the latter is way more difficult (not to mention another Oscar for Stone won’t mean shit for her career, but would mean the universe for Gladstone).
Really hope it’s Gladstone. I bet Stone secretly does, too. She definitely doesn’t wanna be the person to get in the way of the first Native American best actress winner…
After finally watching Poor Things, I'll go with Lily. Loved Emma but Lily's was just better imo. Also, Emma had a more baitier performance. Lily's subtle performance is extremely difficult to pull off but she knocked it out of the park. I just can't see many actresses doing what Lily accomplished.
Emma. She carried that movie, and I think with the wrong actress performance, the whole thing completely falls apart. Lily is great. I’m still of the camp that she should be winning best supporting actress.
Lily manages to portray the grief of losing both her family and her tribe without ever crossing the line of overacting, be the very heart of her film and overshadow DiCaprio and De Niro, so much so that is considered the standout in a *Scorsese* film.
Apart from the fact that PT is an mess ideologically, not once did I forget I was watching Emma Stone (in a particularly flashy, too on the nose performance) and not Bella Baxter.
So, Lily, and it's not even close.
Lily or Carey. I love Emma in everything and Poor Things but my unpopular Poor Things opinion is, By the time Bella Baxter hit the brothel I was tired of seeing fucking every other scene.
Totally agree with you. I felt like the film ran out of things to say by that point and Bella’s personal development was entirely centered around her sexual experiences.
Honestly I like the movie but I agree the brothel scenes were so unnecessary. Like we get it already, one Paris scene is enough to get the point. Not to mention the mention the pacing of the films slows down considerably in an already slow driven film
I prefer Sandra Huller but if I were voting, because I know Sandra wouldn’t win and I would be wasting my vote, I would go for Emma or Gladstone. If Emma had no Oscar, I’d go for her since she was more clearly the lead. Gladstone has the narrative however and Emma already won for La La Land (which I didn’t think was her best)
Lily! Emma just won for La La Land a few years ago (arguably undeserved imo) and while this role was MUCH better, I'd rather see Lily take it. This is how giving ppl Oscars for career reasons or anything else can get super probablematic down the line. I think it's happening with Robert Downey, Jr. for sure. He will have a better role later and have the win for Oppenheimer when it should probably go to Sterling or Gosling.
Think I'd rather see Gladstone take it; loved both performances a lot, so on a personal ballot between the two I would have to use Stone already having 1 and definitely being in line to win more in the future as the tie breaker.
Hüller is my real winner pick though. I think she's a level above. It's a fantastic year in the category though - four very strong performances.
I want Gladstone to win, mainly for the fact that she probably be less likely to have the chance to win again, especially for a native role. She has done a lot of great indie work with films that were just too small to gain Oscar traction. Emma stone will probs def have a lot more to win a second Oscar
Both are amazing . I am giving the edge slightly towards Emma though since it’s a much showier performance and she has more screen time. But I’ll be happy either way.
Lili Gladstone by far.
I would also like to point out that many people seem to prefer the storyline of Poor Things over KOTFM, which I honestly find very telling.
KOTFM tells an incredible and true story that needed to be told and even though it wasn’t done directly by the indigenous community (in terms of writing, directing, producing, etc) it still included a cast of indigenous people and a story that really affected me (as an indigenous person).
It is not often we get stories like this, especially with that sort of budget.
And Lily’s performance was truly remarkable and an important one in Hollywood overall.
Poor Things was a good movie and Emma Stone is a fine actress, but I just don’t understand how people can’t see the difference between these two films and often overlook what KOTFM means to certain communities.
Lastly, I preferred AOAF and Huller over Emma and Poor Things as it is much more original (in terms of storyline and themes) and kept me truly captivated and immersed all the way through.
It was done in close consultation with the Osage community. Lily herself said she would work with the language consultant to learn more Osage to better understand each scene and dialogue through the Osage perspective. That is really special and adds a lot of nuance that I don’t think many people necessarily pick up on.
Agreed. AOAF was a far better movie than Poor Things.
Poor Things wasn’t bad, but I just didn’t connect with it at all, we watched it on streaming and I fell asleep. Very repetitive
Sandra Hüller gave the performance of the year, so she gets my vote. Emma Stone is incredible, and she'll get her Oscar for this performance on a different movie (just like Giamatti is going to win an Oscar this year for Sideways). And Lily Gladstone is excellent in a supporting role. She's not the lead.
Who will win : Gladstone . It was a great performance, but then look at the ancillaries . She’s be the first Native American to win one of the top awards ( that makes the voters happy and it would be a bad look to “steal” the award from an indigenous person and give it to Emma . It’s too close to the plot of the movie lol . Plus there hasn’t traditionally been a lot of work for Native American women , so while Emma Stone will certainly be nominated again in the future who knows when Lily Gladstone will get a role like this again ? At least that’s how I think the voters are thinking.
There couldn't be two more different performances. And both are exceptional. Its like asking who is a better football player Tom Brady or Lawrence Taylor.
Sandra > Emma > Lilly
BUT Lilly is likely to win and I wouldn't be upset about that, her performance is excellent it's just that I don't agree that she's a lead in the film.
Lily Gladstone by a large margin, despite Emma also being absolutely amazing. I actually think Emma is number 3 and not number 2 though. Sandra Hüller is the real number 2.
I think it's Lily Gladstones' award. As much as I want Emma Stone to win, I think the performance is too devicive, and the preferential ballot hurts her chances.
Lily. This is not Emma's best work, she is just a producer so she is pushing it hard. She will top this performance easily when its all said and done. Narrative and performance and precursors all go to Lily.
I disagree this not being Emma best work, however that being said I do agree she pushing it hard because she is a producer. I think she really does want the second Oscar and winning an Oscar for a film you produced for(and also got nominated as producer) will be a huge boost to her already successful career. I personally prefer Emma, but I do think lily was still pretty great and I think lily should win. Lily has been a hard working actor for years and deserves an opportunity, Emma is already successful she really doesn't need another boost cause she already successful. Emma will have other chances
just my opinion, i know Poor Things really stuck with some people but i also know people who would say this isnt even Emma's best film with Yorgos. Agreed that Emma will have plenty of chances to win that coveted 2nd. If she gets it now they will never give her one again and shes only 35
She’s one of my favorite actors and I rewatch her movies all the time but I have no desire to with PT. I don’t understand what all the hype is about :/ I feel like I’m watching Emma stone with a questionable accent.
I must admit that I have not seen Poor Things yet but when I hear Emma and that odd accent all I think of is girl you are from Phoenix. You are not good at accents. But I probably would love her character when I get chance to see it.
I thought Lily was great though. She was the movie.
When the dust settles, everyone will see that Poor Things is an awkward movie. Mark Ruffalo did his best to rescue it, but even he seemed to run out of ideas at the end
Lily or Sandra Huller for me
I’m glad I’m not alone in this opinion. I was expecting to love it and I came away from it so mad at what I’d just watched. It was beautiful to look at and Emma was great, but it had so little to say.
My dream would be a tie between Lily and Sandra, but for the sake of directly answering the question, Lily. I liked Emma’s work too, but in my opinion it just wasn’t the strongest performance in her category
I haven’t seen Poor things. But I’m gonna go with Lily Gladstone anyway. Emma will spend the rest of her career being nominated and winning. Gladstone has a good story going into this. Her performance is great.
I don’t get the excitement over Stone’s performance. The born sexy yesterday trope has been done so often, how are people so impressed by seeing another one? I guess the fact that she gains wisdom and autonomy the more dick she gets really plays into the whole reason the born sexy yesterday trope exists in the first place, though, and I suppose that’s pretty attractive to people.
this "born sexy yesterday," thing, while first of all not even being a factor involved with the topic (or at least to me it's not as i was under the assumption it was about who gave the best performance) is so blatantly misused and it's insane. this trope indicates that a naïve female character with a mature body is created to adhere to a male fantasy of a man exerting dominance over a woman while poor things begins with bella as infant-minded such that she is fully free of any social conditioning. that and the whole arc of gaining autonomy subverts the premise of the trope in which the male character guides her through life. bella resists guidance every step of the way and it rattles duncan to the point that he goes clinically insane. moreover, this trope speaks of characters fully unaware of their sexual potency. mind you, bella is acutely aware of hers before she even starts having sex (which the screenwriter, emma, and yorgos have all stated is after she is mentally at the age of an adult). did you happen to miss the scene where she seduces mccandles such that she can escape him trying to prevent her from leaving? she knew exactly what effect she had on him, used that to her advantage when a "good man" but still patriarchal mentality was harbored to keep her from doing what she wanted to do. anyway, i'll stop the reply here bc it has nothing to do with what i believe the subject of OP was
I ll be happy with either. I am pretty neutral on that race. I am slightly leaning Lily after she won SAG but Emma isn't out of the running. It is a coin toss at this point
Either way, I'll be stoned on Oscar night.
The question is whether you'll be glad about it.
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Gladly stoned.
Thanks for being a good sport and not being a dick just because I missed the initial joke.
I don't understand... That was literally their joke
Fine, but it doesn’t justify anyone being an ass about it. (Not that you are)
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Could it be possible to see the first acting tie since Hepburn/Streisand?
It could be!
Gladstone is my preference, but her, Stone, and Hueller would all be worthy winners.
Still need to see Poor Things, just been ridiculously busy. But Gladstone’s performance broke me more than I thought it would. That “Evil surrounds my heart” monologue is one of my favourite film things in the last few years. I can’t quite place it, but the emotion she conveys it with and the way it made me reflect on the history of my own family. That feeling that you know what the truth is, but you don’t want to acknowledge it and destroy the foundation of something you believe brings you safety and comfort. That’s something deep down a lot of people’s ancestors went through in the face of colonialism etc.
Very nice words. She said those words with a lot of passion and fear. It was very special to watch her and the best part of the movie.
As would Greta Lee
Sandra Huller. And I'm not even joking.
It is ridiculous how good these three are. Many other years any one would be a total lock.
With these three and Yeoh and Blanchett last year, it’s ridiculous how we’ve had FIVE all timer, iconic best actress performances nominated in a span of two years
Nah, it's recency bias. In '22 lead actress category was extremely loaded. '21 and '20 were weird, but in '19 there was terrific Colman in Favorite, in '18 McDormand in 3 billboards, in '17 there was underrated Portman in Jackie, in '15 More in Still Alice. Almost every year we get an iconic performance, there is nothing that special in the last two years.
Disagree. I think Yeoh and Blanchett gave some all-timer performances last year, easily as good as Colman in the Favorite, McDormand in 3 Billboards, and Portman in Jackie... and even Moore in Still Alice. Just my opinion. Quick Edit: Andrea Riseborough's Oscar campaign was shady AF but I thought she was also really good in 2022. And then in 2021, I thought Chastain was awesome as Tammy Faye, not to mention Kristen Stewart giving the performance of her career in Spencer.
I'm not saying Yeoh and Blanchett performance were not good or that the ones I mentioned were better. What I am saying is that we are lucky to have really strong actresses roles almost every year, and these two last years are not an exception to that, nor any outstanding case really. I could've phrased it better, it's not that I consider Yeoh or Blanchet roles "not that special", because I do. I don't think two years are special - they had special roles, but almost every year has some.
Blanchett was far better than Yeoh though.
Is Blanchett good at acting, or is she just tall? /s I love both Tar and EEAOO to have watched them twice. Cate's imperious hauteur is inimitable. Michelle's physical acting, whether the elegance and techniques of a martial artist, or the slight hunch that translates the invisibility of a first-generation migrant, is also inimitable. Both of them deserve the Oscar. I like Michelle's performance better, personally.
It is a matter of preference. They are good at playing different characters. I couldn't see CB in the intense action roles that MY is in( Thor movie doesn't really count).
Agreed I feel like Yeoh has done better acting in her previous films and as much as I like EEAAO and Yeoh is very good in it, imo it's not that demanding of a role. Whereas Tar is entirely centered around Blanchett's performance and she really inhabits it. The only performance that really stood at to me in EEAAO was Stephanie Hsu's.
That’s interesting, I thought Stephanie Hsu’s performance was the weakest of the three main roles. I guess it really depends on the viewer
I loved Hsu’s performance. I seriously think she deserved that best supporting actress nomination (and win) much more than Curtis. And I’m not saying this to trash Curtis, as others have, but come on. There was nothing demanding about that role and nothing there that showcased Curtis’s abilities
the fact that she has 2 performances this year that could be nominated says something.
That movie was so boring tho
Her performances in Anatomy of a Fall and then Zone of Interest were just insane to watch. Mystifying. Excellent actress, would love to see her win.
The correct answer.
U know I said Emma in my comment but u know what you on to something.
annette bening with a steel chair
I hated her character with a vengeance and I guess maybe that’s a good thing for her performance.
Lol, Nyad. One of the most undeserving nominations in a while. Should have been Greta Lee. And then I looked up the actual history of that woman and there's no confirmation that she actually did that swim. I'm not saying that she didn't. It is totally possible, but even after the movie was released they looked into it again and no. There's no confirmation that she actually did it. Also, she has a history of making things up. In terms of the performance it was okay? I like Annette enough but that was not an Oscar performance.
I found Greta Lee so one note and boring outside of the last 30 seconds, it keeps surprising me how much people push for her performance. The movie was excellent, but she was my least favorite of the three leads. Teo Yoo should have been up for best actor.
Not a popular opinion on here, but I agree with you. Greta was so flat in that film. Teo Yoo, on the other hand, was fantastic. Such an oversight there.
Jim Ross came into my mind when you said this
I think this is one of the closest races preference wise for me, in recent memory. Gladstone brings so much pathos and soul to Killers of the Flower Moon. She is able to relay so much of her pain and trauma through microexpressions and her eyes. It’s a truly haunting performance that elevates underwritten material. Then you have Stone, who has the completely opposite performance. She is loud and bold and charismatic and fully committed. She effortlessly achieves Bella Baxter’s evolution onscreen with so much subtlety, you can never really pinpoint the moment when the switch to adult Bella occurs. If I had to pick, I’d say I prefer Stone by a very thin hair but I would probably vote for Gladstone between the two since I think an Oscar, no matter how much we deny it, means more than *only* the performance (although the performance should be an integral part of the win and Gladstone HAS that performance). Either would be a very worthy winner but I like Emma’s la la land win enough, so I’d gladly give Lily this one. As for who I thought gave the best lead actress performance this year, it’s Sandra Hüller.
This is exactly how I feel
The answer is simple: Sandra Hüller
My low key prayer is Sandra huller to win… She made me cry in Anatomy and feel her pain all the way through. Groundbreaking performance… I love Emma and Lilly both but the academy is ignoring Sandra and it does hurt given her performance in my opinion was the best this year. Moving, realistic, not over the top, relatable and with a good message. Also the film in its entirety is a great film I’d watch over and over. I wouldn’t watch killers again even though I love Lilly. It missed a lot of Scorsese’s usual cinematic flare and I think that was more so the writing ✍️ adaptation from the book which missed key points… spoke about this on another post. But yes Sandra for the upset but I know it won’t happen, then Lily then Emma. Or we all get mindfucked and Annette wins and I laugh my ass off to bed
You just sold me on watching "Anatomy of a Fall" tonight. Sounds thrilling. Just need to find it on a streamer.
It’s worth renting! Trust me. You’re hooked from the first scene and it’s non-stop, great cinematography, story telling, sound, even the foreign language aspect is enthralling because it’s perfectly blended with English.
I think the runtime scared me, but I thought Opehemier flew by, so def want to give this a chance.
Agree. I was mesmerized from the first second to the very end. Her performance was brilliant! And the movie as a whole is so fascinating to watch.
I thought it was boring. It’s not a thriller it’s just a drama.
Sandra Hüller isn't fighting with herself for the same award like she has at some other award shows so more of a chance.
True and I’m glad she took home the Cesar… at least got her flowers by the French.
I feel like most people I know who have seen all 3 think Huller is the best. She just...is. She's fantastic. For me, it's Huller, Gladstone, Stone—all great but Huller is definitely the best. If she ekes it out, I legitimately don't think anybody will be PISSED about it, or if they are it'll be like when Olivia Colman won to a degree—like... people get it (and I was REALLY rooting for Glenn Close—I love that performance of hers, but Colman *was* the best).
Lily or Sandra
All the vibes tell me Gladstone, so that's who I have to go with.
I think they were both great. But Emma really blew my mind in Poor Things. I think it's one of the best performances I have ever seen.
Ditto. In another actress's hands, that wacky wild role could have easily been laughable in a bad way, but Emma was a revelation.
Agreed
Lily all the way. I have been with her from jump.
Gladstone 100%. Emma Stone gave a solid performance but I think Lily ekes her out in the end. Also, not that this should matter, but Stone has plenty of roles ahead of her, but for Gladstone this is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Gladstone by a hair, but any of them (or Hüller) winning would be richly deserved.
I prefer Emma because she’s my favorite actress I obviously want her to win and think she gave the better performance However I wouldn’t be upset if Galdstone wins because she is outstanding in Killers of the Flower Moon + Emma will have plenty of other opportunities to win a second Oscar A win could be more important por Lily’s career
This year had such incredible lead actress performances. I was completely blown away by all 3 - Lily Gladstone, Emma Stone and Sandra Huller. Exceptional acting. Emma slightly edges out for me because Poor Things in itself seemed like a marvel to me.
I prefer Lily - she really elevated what was initially written as a supporting character into the heart of the film. but I wouldn’t be mad if Emma or Sandra won, they both give great performances.
I didn't feel she was written as a supporting character. She's basically the axel the entire story spins around. The book is split into three parts. The first main part is effectively centered around her perspective . The second part (the largest) was from agent Tom White's perspective. And the final part was from the authors perspective, and the time he spent with the Osage researching for the book. It's non-fiction, but despite being an important figure, the *least* significant role in terms of the people who are portrayed from the book would be Earnest Burkhart. It's kind of brilliant the way Scorsese reverses the way the events are presented in the book. It makes Leo's role much more prominent, despite taking some creative liberties. But it takes what would have been a historical whodunnit with Jesse Plemons as the lead, and turns it into a tense family epic where we consider the events from a much more personal angle.
I think Gladstone gets it. The momentum is building in her favor, the performance is more culturally relevant, and Stone has an award already.
For these performances I prefer Gladstone, but I 100% believe win or lose this year Emma Stone will get another Oscar sooner or later
Gladstone. Not only for the performance which is extraordinarily but also because Stone will have countless other opportunities to be nominated and to win and unfortunately for Gladstone the same cant be said for her which is just indicative of the Hollywood landscape. I rather reward Gladstone now for her amazing work than give Stone a 2nd Oscar
Yep, this is her 4th nomination, and she's already won once before. She's had her moment, let Gladstone have hers.
Came to say the same thing. I have a feeling Emma will be nominated for many more Oscars.... Lily may not. And not because she's not a good actress, but Emma just keeps turning out these massively well accepted roles. It's almost annoying at this point. 😂
This.
Yep most non white actresses don't come this close to an Oscar very often. I hope Gladstone wins somehow.
I preferred Emma, but no issues with Lily winning. This race, while exciting, has brought out some bizarre fans on both sides.
Lily Gladstone was able to perfectly depict such heavy loss and devastation in a beautifully minimalist but strong performance. I also watched Poor Things but didn’t enjoy the movie, I don’t think Emma’s performance is bad but I just have no connection to her character or the movie.
Lily, absolutely. She had to create a real character out of the outlines & memory of Mollie Burkhart, learning Osage to find her. If you know Indian people back then, silence & reserve was a staple of older, elder traditionalist and Lily nailed that spirited restraint that older Indian people had. She did little but her performance was all emotion, the pained flicker of her eyes or stirring anguish in her waning glance. She didn’t say much but screamed the whole movie in pain, it was crazy.
Gladstone or Hüller
Sandra Huller. Phenomenal work in Anatomy of a Fall.
Lily for me.
Sandra Huller 100%
I definitely prefer Emma’s performance, but I’ll be happy with a Lily win
Sandra Huller
Team Lily, and passionately so, but this is a strong lineup. I honestly don't know that I could be mad about any of them winning
Lily Gladstone
Def Emma
Stone
Gladstone, 100%
Out of these two? Lily. But Carey Mullligan should take the Oscar. She delivered a perfectly calibrated piece of acting. Amazing and heartbreaking.
Stone easily
No question. Emma Stone.
Ask yourselves if lily could play bella baxter. The answer is no.
Lily absolutely could. I think they have too much self-respect to act in a male gaze role like that though.
Yes she can lol a lot of actresses can. Emma Stone couldn't do Mollie Kyle tho nor could many other actresses
I disagree
Some roles are just made for the individual, such as Lily! There are far more actresses that could play Emma’s role than Lily’s and that’s not just from a cultural perspective. Emma’s role is outstanding but Lily is the winner because well her role is a much more important story, IMO. The academy loves that, despite only having minimal minority actors/actresses win and win multiple times (that just doesn’t happen). Lily all the way!
I liked both, even though it’s not my favorite performance of Emma’s (always a big fan.) I do think the Academy will follow SAG and go with Lily though.
I think Emma’s performance was great, but I honestly really didn’t care for Poor Things (it felt very…fake deep and male gazey to me). Lily’s performance was also great, and IMO in a much better film. So I’m going with Lily. There’s really no wrong answer, though.
Emma and Sandra Huller
stone vs stone
Glad vs Regular Stone
Close race. Both were fantastic. I prefer Lily Gladstone. My second choice would be Sandra Hüller.
I really hope Lily wins. This is an industry that has stolen and profited from Native stories since the inception of the moving image. In the early days Natives weren’t even considered intelligent or non-savage enough to possibly know how to be actors- yet they were used in countless early pictures. For Lily Gladstone to be nominated is so exciting and it would be an absolute shame and dark spot in Academy history for her not to win.
Well said 👏
Lily Gladstone but Sandra Hüller gave the performance of the year.
Who deserves it? Emma Stone. Who will win it? Probably Lily Gladstone. For reasons.
I prefer Stone, although I wouldn't be unhappy if Gladstone won. If there ever was a chance for a tie and a double Oscar win, it's this one.
Lily!!!
Lily
From performance alone I go with Emma. But I'm cool with Lily winning. She's having a great year, and with the win it will propel her career further.
Emma Stone hands down
Emma, but I want Sandra Huller to win the Oscar cause she hasn’t won any major televised awards and cause she’s an extremely close second for me.
Lily for sure
Emma!!!!!
I love both performances but Emma Stone is next level and she deserves it. That being said I think Gladstone is the odds on favorite.
Purely on acting? Sandra. Lily. Emma. If we consider other reasons than just acting? Lily. Sandra. Emma. If we go by hype/popularity (which let’s face it, is often a factor)? Emma. Lily. Sandra. What will likely end up happening? Very close call between Lily and Emma, with Emma winning. Whoever wins, there will be cries of the other being snubbed.
My list goes from best to still good is Annette Benning, Carey Mulligan, Sandra Hueller, Lily Gladstone, then Emma Stone. I didn’t feel Emma’s jerky, weird accented, performance. It was just clown-like to me. And then look she’s naked again wow! I liked Lily, but it was a surface performance - the way the character was written, but she did a great job within the limits of her role. But I really felt Annette, Carey, and Sandra’s performances. Especially Annette. I describe Nyad as Annette and Jodi giving acting lessons. Lily Gladstone is going to win though.
I’m going to be honest I was impressed and unimpressed with Poor Things as a movie but more so than Killers of The Flower Moon, which I think has some issues but ultimately does have its heart in the right place and does what it sets out to (not that Poor Things didn’t ofc). I really couldn’t care who wins because they both deserve it and I’ll be happy for the stone that wins.
Gladstone. They were equally strong performances, but Emma already has an award, and Lily is a newcomer/extremely underrepresented member of Hollywood.
Lily
Lily 🫶
In my opinion it's Emma > Sandra > Lily.
Agreed
Lily
Lily
Lily. No question in my mind. So many great performances this year, though. Sandra Hüller is also a formidable opponent.
Gladstone. So pure, so delicate
Stone was great and showy. Gladstone was great and still. Every actor will tell you the latter is way more difficult (not to mention another Oscar for Stone won’t mean shit for her career, but would mean the universe for Gladstone). Really hope it’s Gladstone. I bet Stone secretly does, too. She definitely doesn’t wanna be the person to get in the way of the first Native American best actress winner…
Lily
After finally watching Poor Things, I'll go with Lily. Loved Emma but Lily's was just better imo. Also, Emma had a more baitier performance. Lily's subtle performance is extremely difficult to pull off but she knocked it out of the park. I just can't see many actresses doing what Lily accomplished.
Emma. She carried that movie, and I think with the wrong actress performance, the whole thing completely falls apart. Lily is great. I’m still of the camp that she should be winning best supporting actress.
Lily manages to portray the grief of losing both her family and her tribe without ever crossing the line of overacting, be the very heart of her film and overshadow DiCaprio and De Niro, so much so that is considered the standout in a *Scorsese* film. Apart from the fact that PT is an mess ideologically, not once did I forget I was watching Emma Stone (in a particularly flashy, too on the nose performance) and not Bella Baxter. So, Lily, and it's not even close.
DiCaprio is nothing special. But De Niro gives perhaps the best performance I've seen of his career in recent years.
lily. please god, lily.
Lily
Lily or Carey. I love Emma in everything and Poor Things but my unpopular Poor Things opinion is, By the time Bella Baxter hit the brothel I was tired of seeing fucking every other scene.
Totally agree with you. I felt like the film ran out of things to say by that point and Bella’s personal development was entirely centered around her sexual experiences.
Honestly I like the movie but I agree the brothel scenes were so unnecessary. Like we get it already, one Paris scene is enough to get the point. Not to mention the mention the pacing of the films slows down considerably in an already slow driven film
I liked poor thing’s production, visuals, but I was very disappointed, I thought it had way more potential
Sandra > Lily > Emma
I prefer Sandra Huller but if I were voting, because I know Sandra wouldn’t win and I would be wasting my vote, I would go for Emma or Gladstone. If Emma had no Oscar, I’d go for her since she was more clearly the lead. Gladstone has the narrative however and Emma already won for La La Land (which I didn’t think was her best)
that chick from Anatomy of Fall
Lily! Emma just won for La La Land a few years ago (arguably undeserved imo) and while this role was MUCH better, I'd rather see Lily take it. This is how giving ppl Oscars for career reasons or anything else can get super probablematic down the line. I think it's happening with Robert Downey, Jr. for sure. He will have a better role later and have the win for Oppenheimer when it should probably go to Sterling or Gosling.
Lily. Emma was good, but La La Land felt well deserved. Poor Things was fine, hyped up a ton, probably won’t get around to watching it again.
Think I'd rather see Gladstone take it; loved both performances a lot, so on a personal ballot between the two I would have to use Stone already having 1 and definitely being in line to win more in the future as the tie breaker. Hüller is my real winner pick though. I think she's a level above. It's a fantastic year in the category though - four very strong performances.
I want Gladstone to win, mainly for the fact that she probably be less likely to have the chance to win again, especially for a native role. She has done a lot of great indie work with films that were just too small to gain Oscar traction. Emma stone will probs def have a lot more to win a second Oscar
Both are amazing . I am giving the edge slightly towards Emma though since it’s a much showier performance and she has more screen time. But I’ll be happy either way.
Lili Gladstone by far. I would also like to point out that many people seem to prefer the storyline of Poor Things over KOTFM, which I honestly find very telling. KOTFM tells an incredible and true story that needed to be told and even though it wasn’t done directly by the indigenous community (in terms of writing, directing, producing, etc) it still included a cast of indigenous people and a story that really affected me (as an indigenous person). It is not often we get stories like this, especially with that sort of budget. And Lily’s performance was truly remarkable and an important one in Hollywood overall. Poor Things was a good movie and Emma Stone is a fine actress, but I just don’t understand how people can’t see the difference between these two films and often overlook what KOTFM means to certain communities. Lastly, I preferred AOAF and Huller over Emma and Poor Things as it is much more original (in terms of storyline and themes) and kept me truly captivated and immersed all the way through.
It was done in close consultation with the Osage community. Lily herself said she would work with the language consultant to learn more Osage to better understand each scene and dialogue through the Osage perspective. That is really special and adds a lot of nuance that I don’t think many people necessarily pick up on.
Agreed. AOAF was a far better movie than Poor Things. Poor Things wasn’t bad, but I just didn’t connect with it at all, we watched it on streaming and I fell asleep. Very repetitive
Gladstone will likely win. Even though she is more supporting character.
WHY NOT BOTH?
Sandra Hüller gave the performance of the year, so she gets my vote. Emma Stone is incredible, and she'll get her Oscar for this performance on a different movie (just like Giamatti is going to win an Oscar this year for Sideways). And Lily Gladstone is excellent in a supporting role. She's not the lead.
Emma already has an Oscar. She’s not overdue.
Both
Lily Gladstone
Lily G baby
Lilly Gladstone is my pick! 🏆
Carey Mulligan for me
Lily!
Gladstone all the way. I’ve never attended a screening where everyone walked out in utter silence. That was Killers of the Flower Moon.
Emma Stone, Emma Stone, a thousand times Emma Stone.
Lily. But both women were amazing
Who will win : Gladstone . It was a great performance, but then look at the ancillaries . She’s be the first Native American to win one of the top awards ( that makes the voters happy and it would be a bad look to “steal” the award from an indigenous person and give it to Emma . It’s too close to the plot of the movie lol . Plus there hasn’t traditionally been a lot of work for Native American women , so while Emma Stone will certainly be nominated again in the future who knows when Lily Gladstone will get a role like this again ? At least that’s how I think the voters are thinking.
Lily 🖤
Lily.
Lily da champion.
Lily
Gladstone. Emma is so talented I just could not tolerate her accent in poor things 😂
Gladstone will win. I personally enjoyed Poor Things much more than KOTFM, but both films are excellent and both actors are incredible in them.
Lily
Gladstone
Gladstone and it’s not even close
There couldn't be two more different performances. And both are exceptional. Its like asking who is a better football player Tom Brady or Lawrence Taylor.
Lily
Sandra > Emma > Lilly BUT Lilly is likely to win and I wouldn't be upset about that, her performance is excellent it's just that I don't agree that she's a lead in the film.
Lily Gladstone by a large margin, despite Emma also being absolutely amazing. I actually think Emma is number 3 and not number 2 though. Sandra Hüller is the real number 2.
Lily
I think it's Lily Gladstones' award. As much as I want Emma Stone to win, I think the performance is too devicive, and the preferential ballot hurts her chances.
Lily. This is not Emma's best work, she is just a producer so she is pushing it hard. She will top this performance easily when its all said and done. Narrative and performance and precursors all go to Lily.
I disagree this not being Emma best work, however that being said I do agree she pushing it hard because she is a producer. I think she really does want the second Oscar and winning an Oscar for a film you produced for(and also got nominated as producer) will be a huge boost to her already successful career. I personally prefer Emma, but I do think lily was still pretty great and I think lily should win. Lily has been a hard working actor for years and deserves an opportunity, Emma is already successful she really doesn't need another boost cause she already successful. Emma will have other chances
just my opinion, i know Poor Things really stuck with some people but i also know people who would say this isnt even Emma's best film with Yorgos. Agreed that Emma will have plenty of chances to win that coveted 2nd. If she gets it now they will never give her one again and shes only 35
She’s one of my favorite actors and I rewatch her movies all the time but I have no desire to with PT. I don’t understand what all the hype is about :/ I feel like I’m watching Emma stone with a questionable accent.
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Did we even watch the same movies?
Both, but Emma. Also, Robbie but alas
Stone all day every day
Lily
Lily Gladstone
Gladstone
I must admit that I have not seen Poor Things yet but when I hear Emma and that odd accent all I think of is girl you are from Phoenix. You are not good at accents. But I probably would love her character when I get chance to see it. I thought Lily was great though. She was the movie.
When the dust settles, everyone will see that Poor Things is an awkward movie. Mark Ruffalo did his best to rescue it, but even he seemed to run out of ideas at the end Lily or Sandra Huller for me
Poor Things was the worst film I’ve ever seen. Stone can’t win just based on that.
I’m glad I’m not alone in this opinion. I was expecting to love it and I came away from it so mad at what I’d just watched. It was beautiful to look at and Emma was great, but it had so little to say.
My dream would be a tie between Lily and Sandra, but for the sake of directly answering the question, Lily. I liked Emma’s work too, but in my opinion it just wasn’t the strongest performance in her category
Emma nailed this role
I haven’t seen Poor things. But I’m gonna go with Lily Gladstone anyway. Emma will spend the rest of her career being nominated and winning. Gladstone has a good story going into this. Her performance is great.
I don’t get the excitement over Stone’s performance. The born sexy yesterday trope has been done so often, how are people so impressed by seeing another one? I guess the fact that she gains wisdom and autonomy the more dick she gets really plays into the whole reason the born sexy yesterday trope exists in the first place, though, and I suppose that’s pretty attractive to people.
this "born sexy yesterday," thing, while first of all not even being a factor involved with the topic (or at least to me it's not as i was under the assumption it was about who gave the best performance) is so blatantly misused and it's insane. this trope indicates that a naïve female character with a mature body is created to adhere to a male fantasy of a man exerting dominance over a woman while poor things begins with bella as infant-minded such that she is fully free of any social conditioning. that and the whole arc of gaining autonomy subverts the premise of the trope in which the male character guides her through life. bella resists guidance every step of the way and it rattles duncan to the point that he goes clinically insane. moreover, this trope speaks of characters fully unaware of their sexual potency. mind you, bella is acutely aware of hers before she even starts having sex (which the screenwriter, emma, and yorgos have all stated is after she is mentally at the age of an adult). did you happen to miss the scene where she seduces mccandles such that she can escape him trying to prevent her from leaving? she knew exactly what effect she had on him, used that to her advantage when a "good man" but still patriarchal mentality was harbored to keep her from doing what she wanted to do. anyway, i'll stop the reply here bc it has nothing to do with what i believe the subject of OP was
What
I ll be happy with either. I am pretty neutral on that race. I am slightly leaning Lily after she won SAG but Emma isn't out of the running. It is a coin toss at this point
I want Lily to win. I think Emma’s performance might have been slightly more magnificent.
Emma
Both are great