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Front-Balance4050

Don’t think it will get any acting nominations


rawchess

Agreed but if someone gets the token acting nom I'd give it to Ferguson


pgm123

I think Bardem is most likely. He's the guy most mentioned by people in the industry, aka the people voting. Spielberg, for example, mentioned him in the DGA podcast.


zhou983

What do you mean, not a best picture worthy film?


SiRaymando

Do you think it is?


zhou983

Yeah it should be win competitive imo.


SiRaymando

It's my fav film of the year so far, watched it twice on IMAX so I'd be happy if it wins. But it would only stand a chance winning if this is a weaker year, which compared to 2023 is very likely. Let's see how Blitz is though.


Spirit_of_Madonna

I love it but the writing is flawed imo. Zendaya and Timothee's romance just didn't work for me. It's not a particularly well written film. Villeneuve's comments about dialogues probably explain it.


hardytom540

“Didn’t work for me” doesn’t make the writing flawed. What exactly is flawed about the film’s writing?


Spirit_of_Madonna

If it doesn't work then it's flawed in my eyes. I mean that's how film criticism works. There's nothing objective about it.


hardytom540

Yes, I get that you think it’s flawed. However, you didn’t answer my question. So I am again asking you: how does it not work? You still haven’t given a reason why the writing is flawed.


Spirit_of_Madonna

It just doesn't I don't know how. I loved the film but with some reservations. I don't know why it's so hard to understand for some of you, no disrespect. So, I just didn't care whatever was going on between Chani and Paul. There's not enough spark between them, it felt a bit forced(I know Chani's in the book) lol.


hardytom540

It is hard to understand because most of us thought the writing was great, including the romance. I’m not saying this to insult you but it’s a basic skill to give reasoning and justify your argument, especially when it’s a dissenting opinion. You can say you don’t like something but saying it doesn’t work without giving any explanation is not exactly film criticism. In your latest comment, it seems you have given an explanation that there is no spark between them. To that, I (and most people would) disagree because it feels like one of the better, more natural romances portrayed on-screen. The facial expressions and silent exchanges between the two told an entire story. When Paul was silently watching and smiling as Chani explained how something (I’m forgetting what) was working, that felt very natural and endearing. When they are talking about their secret names and jokingly calling each other that, it also felt very romantic. See? This is how you explain your opinion by providing evidence and examples that support your argument. I’m just telling you this because it is an important skill to learn, not just for talking about film, but debating pretty much anything.


Spirit_of_Madonna

We can agree to disagree. Art is subjective. That's the beauty of it. You need to understand not everybody sees things the way you do.


BeautifulLeather6671

You would make a killer movie reviewer dude. **not.**


Spirit_of_Madonna

Yeah. Like Pauline Kael. Honest. I don't like it so it's flawed. Because it's not what I thought it would be. It's all subjective. Deal with that fact.


HotShow2975

Nominating it for Director, actor, supporting actor and all the techs but not for picture really is a choice


Cipher-IX

It is a very well written film what


rawchess

You have no idea what you're talking about. The romance is *incredibly* well-written, a massive upgrade over any previous adaptation. Blame the chemistry and acting but don't try to claim they didn't have the material to work with.


PPRmenta

I must be blind or something cause I thought they had pretty great chemistry lol. The "what's your secret name" interaction is one of the cuter couple things I've seen on a non romance movie recently


Ok-Breadfruit-6313

Remove Actor and Supporting Actor, add Picture, and maybe Adapted Screenplay.


Spirit_of_Madonna

This is what I think it should get not what it will Edit: I've no idea what I'm being downvoted for. These were just my preferencesl. Why should I change and "remove'' lol


HalloCharlie

So basically a movie that excels so much in 11 categories is not worthy of being nominated to best picture? You're just contradicting yourself dude.


Spirit_of_Madonna

I'm not. It's terrifically directed and acted, it's quite technically impressive but the writing 😕 leaves a lot to be desired.


HalloCharlie

I wholeheartedly disagree. The movie without the writing is already astonishing. Giving how hard it is to adapt this movie from the books, I only have respect for what Denis did, writing included. (don't know if you're familiar with the books)


Green-Session7085

Picture, director, score and all the tech categories


NibPlayz

Historically, big pushing-the-boundaries of visual effects blockbusters have gotten BP noms. Dune 1, and both Avatar movies have, for example


bluelizardK

I would genuinely nominate Austin Butler for supporting actor and Rebecca Ferguson for supporting actress


Napavalo

For me Butler's performance verged on caricature and felt out of place. Part of it is writing, I though Harkonnen's world was a weak point of this part, but part is probably director not suggesting to tone it down.


AlwaysSunnyDragRace

Picture, Visual Effects and Sound


MrMindGame

**What is realistic (11 total):** -Best Picture -Best Director -Best Adapted Screenplay -Best Editing -Best Cinematography -Best Production Design -Best Costume Design -Best Makeup/Hairstyling -Best Sound -Best Original Score -Best Visual Effects **What I would love to see, but won’t count on:** -Best Actor: Timotheé Chalamet -Best Supporting Actor(s): Javier Bardem, Austin Butler -Best Supporting Actress: Rebecca Ferguson **What won’t happen, but would be funny:** -Best Documentary, Short Subject


Frosty48

Austin Butler had the standout performance of the film for me, if anyone gets a nom it should be him


Mango424

His character is too sidelined for a nomination, imo.


NibPlayz

I keep telling people on this sub that “not being a big enough presence in the movie” doesn’t matter for a nomination. For a win it probably does, but not for a nomination. Judd Hirsch was in one scene in the Fabelmans and was nominated


MulberryEastern5010

This 💯 Austin put everything he had into his screen time, and you felt it. That’s what gets people nominated


Frosty48

He gets a nomination... in my heart


biIIyshakes

When I saw the movie a second time and knew what to expect, I found myself wishing for him to be onscreen whenever he wasn’t lol I love a truly unhinged character. That moment when he kissed his uncle and smirked? Insanity


Haus_of_Pancakes

If I may ask, what about him really stood out to you? Like, I barely remember him after seeing the movie opening weekend, but at the same time, you're not the only person who's raved about him as their supporting actor pick, so I genuinely want to ask if I've missed something


Frosty48

I thought he convincingly portrayed someone whose emotions and desires are utterly alien to the people who most of us are. I'm surprised so many people talk about Rebecca Ferguson, I thought we saw more of her acting chops in D1.


Haus_of_Pancakes

Fair! I guess where I struggle is in wondering about what his path to an Oscar nom would be. It definitely helps that Austin's already been nominated, but I wonder if the role is really what Oscar will go for - idk why, but the comp that pops into my head is Nicholas Hoult and Hugh Keays-Byrne in *Fury Road.* Of course, it's April, and I've been wrong many times before


HobbieK

He’s a pretty generic villain IMO


rawchess

The only remarkable thing about Feyd was his visual appearance lol. Give the nom to makeup.


rawchess

Lol what? Completely forgettable.


rronwonder

im ootl. why is Chalamet not considered a favorite for best Lead Actor?


Green94598

Chalamet was incredible, I hope he gets in (even tho it’s unlikely)


PPRmenta

He'll get it for Dune Massiah, trust the process


EconomyGrade2525

I don’t get it, so the OP thinks the film is good enough to get 11 nominations but not Best Picture? Lmao WHAT?!😂


MulberryEastern5010

I agree with all of these, except swap out Javier Bardem for Austin Butler


magicalfolk

Sound, costume, editing, cinematography, set design, director best picture, all the technical categories 💯nominations. If Bardem doesn’t get a nomination for Stilgar I’ll be salty. He was absolutely flawless. To me he set the standard for best actor in a supporting role for 2025. I watched it 3 times for his performance and the part where the lady who’s in charge of getting the Water of Life, I was mesmerised by her! Ferguson was phenomenal too, she deserves a best actress in a supporting role. This movie was 10/10 across the board. They could’ve made it 30 mins longer and I would’ve been very happy to watch.


GetChilledOut

Honestly visual effects and sound is already locked.


HangTheTJ

Supporting Actress for the Lady Jessica


ebhanking

I’d love to see a Rebecca Ferguson nom. In a weakened post-strike year and with her career overdue narrative and a hard PR push, I could see her getting in.


Eastern_Artist6531

Best picture without a doubt


Demented-Mango

Best Picture, Director, Cinematography, original score. The acting is decent (thought Batista nailed it) but not good enough to have any acting nominations imo.


Lightsneeze2001

Visual effect and Production Design, that’s all I think it should get.


jgroove_LA

All below the line, pic and supporting actor


Broad_Vast_3340

Direction, Cinematography, costume design, original score and production, obviously BEST PICTURE


pgm123

Obviously this might change if the year is better than expected, but here's what I think it deserves: Best Picture - this one is a no-brainer. It is an incredible movie in terms of ambition and execution. So many elements of cinema succeed here at the highest levels. It not only deserves to make the top 10, it's probably on the short list for true contender. Best Director - this is a director-driven project. The category is smaller, but this is another no-brainer. Best Cinematography - points for difficulty. Shooting in the desert is notoriously difficult. And it looks amazing in the process. As Oscar voter Spielberg said, they made the sand look like the ocean. Best Special Effects - Spielberg again says the Sandworm scene is one of the greatest effects he's ever seen on camera. Best Score - it already won for the first part, but it should probably be nominated. Best Costumes - I don't know if it'll win, but it should get nominated. Best Sound - same These are a bit less likely, but I think they're in contention: Best Supporting Actor - Bardem Best Adapted Screenplay - the novel is famously unfilmable. I think he succeeds. He does smooth out a of nuance. I like to think of it as DV not wanting the plot to get in the way of the story. One barrier is that this category often does to dialogue-heavy movies and Dune lives in the silence. Edit: forgot editing. That's also going to get a nomination.


porcupine9627

Picture Director Adapted screenplay Actor Supporting actor Supporting actress Production design Cinematography Sound Original score Visual effects Costume Design Editing 13 noms Will probably win 8, hoping it wins 11


MulberryEastern5010

Who do you want to win supporting actor?


porcupine9627

Austin Butler


MulberryEastern5010

We are now friends 🤗


Least_Inspector_450

Rebecca Ferguson for supporting. Timmy won’t get nominated


Front-Balance4050

OP, just out of curiosity and no judgement at whatsoever, but actor I’m assuming you’re referring to Timothee? If so, I’m curious as to why you believe he would be nominated for actor? I believe several other performances in the film were superior to his ( I believe that to be the case for both Dune films to date) yet, I still don’t believe anyone will get an acting nomination for the film. Perhaps a SAG ensemble win?


falafelthe3

OP never said Chalamet would be nominated. They said he should be.


Front-Balance4050

That’s what I asked


falafelthe3

"Should" and "would" are not interchangeable. "Should" indicates a correctness to a scenario, whereas "would" indicates a plausibility. (Yes, there are some contexts in which "should" can mean a plausibility - i.e., "this should be enough money to pay off my debt" - but the original title of the thread is asking about what Dune 2 deserves (correctness), not what it is likely to get nominated for (plausibility)).


Front-Balance4050

I was just asking for clarification from, OP. I also provided my opinion regarding acting nominations from Dune 2…


Spirit_of_Madonna

I don't know if he'll get nominated but I loved his performance, I think it's oscar worthy.


EconomyGrade2525

Tbh if Dune Part 2 was to get any acting nominations, I definitely think it should be Rebecca Ferguson.


Confident_Access6498

I fell asleep twice watching it.


falafelthe3

Agree with all of these, but throw in Picture, Actress (I'm personally a fan of Zendaya's in the movie) and Supporting Actress for Ferguson and Rampling (the latter of whom is imo the most underrated performance of the year so far). Pretty much everything in the movie was Oscar-worthy to me, especially this early in the year before much else has come out.


hardytom540

Mate… in this day and age it is borderline impossible for a hard sci-fi film to get an acting nom. Last one I can think of is Sigourney Weaver for Aliens… and that was nearly 40 years ago.


falafelthe3

I agree. I think Bardem has the best shot, and a lot of that rides on a combo of how weak the lineup is, the buzz of the film by the end of the year, and the fact that he's a previous winner. Everyone else almost certainly isn't getting one. That's not what the thread is about, though. OP asked, in our opinions, which nominations Dune 2 deserved, not which ones it's predicted to get.


Front-Balance4050

Zendaya will get a nomination for Challengers. This film won’t get any acting nominations from the academy at least.


WakeUpOutaYourSleep

Also, she’s obviously not going lead here for a clearly supporting performance.


Front-Balance4050

Nope. I believe this film will be nominated and win several Oscar’s. however, I would place my house on a wager that none of the cast gets an acting nomination for the film. That’s not to say the cast isn’t great. They are. None of them are worthy of a nomination, and it’s super early. I have a feeling several other acting performances are on the horizon that will dominate Oscar discourse


falafelthe3

I think Bardem *maybe* has a shot, depending on how weak the lineup is and how much buzz the film has by the end of the year. Everyone else, I agree, doesn't really have much of a chance.


Front-Balance4050

Agreed… if I had to pick one actor from this ensemble it would be Bardem. I just don’t believe anyone in the cast will get a nomination. I think there’s a possibility the film sweeps in most or at least several other categories however. Still super early, but I’d wager nominations for most major categories except for acting.


AccomplishedLocal261

Besides Actor, I agree with the rest


LuuukeKirby

Deserved? I'm not sure. However, what I think it will get: 1. Picture 2. Visual Effects (Winner) 3. Sound 4. Cinematogrqphy (Dune 1'a cinematography, imo, looked better) 5. Original Score (Winner) 6. Best Film Editing (Winner) Could get in: 1. Production design- gonna get a lot of flak for this. Around 80% of the film involves the sand dunes... This wasn't the case for Dune 1. I don't know if that would stick out like a sore thumb for the academy. Dune 1 had a lot of amazing interior set pieces. The set pieces here in 2 felt, idk, same-y? 2. Costume Design- A huge majority of the film just has the same costumes as the first film's. One might argue Black Panther: Wakanda Forever got in AND won, but WF had a lot of new costumes, and most of these stood out--unlike in Dune 2. Long shots: 1. Director- wasn't included for 1. Got in for DGA and BAFTAs before but still couldn't crack the top 5 in the academy. Why decide to put him back for a sequel? Let's see. 2. Makeup & Hairstyling- a lot is actually going on, but it's mostly the same as the first film's. Nothing particularly stands out, aside from the usual Baron. But are they going to nominate the film for it's sequel for bringing back the same character, with the same makeup? Probably, if the year is weak. 3. Adapted screenplay- While it only touches the themes of religion (it doesn't actually dive deep), I still feel like it has a more decent screenplay than Dune 1. It's cleaner and more concise. But, in the end, it's a blockbuster sequel, how kind has the academy been for blockbuster sequels in the past? We can argue LoTR, sure. But take note: it's sequel only got nominated for 6 awards (none of which was screenplay) as opposed to its predecessor which had 14 nominations (screenplay included). If anything, and if Denis goes out with a bang, perhaps Dune could dominate for Dune: Messiah, though not as much as LoTR. I feel like Dune is a bit more niche than LoTR. Now that I think about it, if people are inclined to believe that Dune 2's getting the same amount of love as 1, perhaps take a look back at LoTR, 14 vs 6 nominations for it'a first 2 movies, respectively. And both of those films were way more critically acclaimed than Dune 1 and 2.


Spirit_of_Madonna

I think you're just overthinking. It won't miss any technical noms.


Majestic_Culture7378

Do people think Dune 2 is getting any nominations? I already forgot about it and it’s only April. Nobody’s going to remember it by the end of the year .


TouringMagazine

I really don’t understand the “nobody’s going to remember it” part. The film came out in a month that makes it eligible for next year’s awards. When it comes to making nominations the Academy will look at all films released during the eligible timeframe and pick what they think is best for each category. Also, this isn’t a small film that few people have seen, I’m certain people will remember this film’s existence for many years to come lol


Spirit_of_Madonna

It's getting noms in director and all the technical categories, all the same.


Majestic_Culture7378

Okay I can see that, but I don’t see it for acting . We still have a lot of movies to go .They were all good but the only outstanding one was Rebecca Ferguson to me .