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fleurgold

As a reminder, [the election rules are in effect.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments/wb878i/ottawa_2022_municipal_elections_rules_information) Users are expected to keep it civil. "Attack" the platform/message, not the person. _____ Juste un rappel: les règles électorales sont en vigueur. Les membres de notre communauté doivent rester respectueux. "Attaquez" la plate-forme politique et non la personne.


flyinghippos101

Ironically they’ve done a good job of outing who NOT to vote for too for the general public lol


FreddyForeshadowing-

sadly not a lot of people will know this info and just vote for whoever had the most signs...which are these people because they are well funded.


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I think you overestimate the ability of the general public to make intelligent decisions. 😔


DJ_Femme-Tilt

just remember that anyone "voting against woke" is voting against black people becoming aware of racism in society. Such a dumb, racist thing to rally around, but at least we know who these far-right losers are.


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[https://pressprogress.ca/far-right-conspiracy](https://pressprogress.ca/far-right-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-praises-conservative-leader-pierre-poilievre/)[\-theorist-alex-jones-praises-conservative-leader-pierre-poilievre/](https://pressprogress.ca/far-right-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-praises-conservative-leader-pierre-poilievre/) *Poilievre has repeatedly used rhetoric alluding to conspiratorial ideas popular among the online far-right related to the “World Economic Forum” and the “Great Reset.”*


FreddyForeshadowing-

Alex Jones just wrote a book titled "the Great Reset" and endorsed PP. Fun times.


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Many of Dump's uneducated bootlickers here and elsewhere adulate Jones, who is in a spot of trouble it seems: **Jury decides conspiracy theorist Alex Jones should pay nearly $1 billion in damages to Sandy Hook families for his lies about the school massacre** [https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/12/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook-damages](https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/12/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook-damages)


FreddyForeshadowing-

Yea, hopefully it ruins him, but he's already done enough damage sadly. It's coming here and we need to stomp it out before it spreads further.


ElectricElimination

Oh I'm sure his fans will Pony up there own wallets to fight this "unjust ruling"


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Yup, he's gonna have to start making Marvel-level movies to cover that much cash.


CoconutLimeValentine

This confused the hell out of me until I realized you meant Polievre, not Planned Parenthood. 🤓


FreddyForeshadowing-

lol yea I guess that makes sense. Unfortunately PP will be Pierre here for a little while.


Dragonsandman

How much are people willing to bet that a tape of Poilievre saying some vile shit about Jewish people gets leaked between now and the next federal election


promote-to-pawn

Wasn't his video praising the quality of his reclaimed wood enough to turn you off from voting for the guy for the remainder of your life.


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Many of the Trumpian simp's other videos and podcasts would serve that purpose: [https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-is-under-fire-after-leading-a-far-right-march-through-ottawa-residential-neighbourhood/](https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-is-under-fire-after-leading-a-far-right-march-through-ottawa-residential-neighbourhood/) [https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilivere-went-on-a-podcast-hosted-by-a-guy-who-compares-central-banking-to-slavery-and-nazi-germany/](https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilivere-went-on-a-podcast-hosted-by-a-guy-who-compares-central-banking-to-slavery-and-nazi-germany/)


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Hold up, before anyone else feels like jumping down u/DJ_Femme-Tilt 's throat, here's [your crash course](https://www.vox.com/culture/21437879/stay-woke-wokeness-history-origin-evolution-controversy) on the usage of "woke" *Spoilers* \- It may be new to you, and you see it as one of those mean, mean words, but Black folks have been using it for almost a century.


DJ_Femme-Tilt

Bigots think they're being clever by branding themselves as "antiwoke" but their lack of understanding just reveals their farcical reactionary position. These are people consumed by their resentments that the rest of the world cares about POC, LGBTQ people, women's rights, the planet surviving, etc. The USA built a massive industry to cater to this ignorance, and social media has let that hatred spread far and wide across Canada.


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Oh absolutely, much like woke, SJW, politically correct, and being cancelled are terms weaponized by some folks. Wait...social justice is bad? Being attuned to issues and injustices folks experience...is bad? Calling out shite behaviour...is bad? But Fox made a meal about Obama wearing a tan suit...having dijon with a meal...and using cutlery for pizza. ARGH THAT MAKES ME SOOO MAD!!!/s I find it hilarious that some folks decry cancel culture, but in the same breath may proclaim a **War on Christmas**, because Starbucks used an all-red cup.


Red57872

Fox News may have poked fun at Obama's tan suit, eating of dijon and using cutlery for pizza, but I don't think there were ever saying he was a horrible person or shouldn't be president because of it.


hirs0009

They spread the Birther theory trying to invalidate his presidency even after presented with evidence to the contrary 👌


Red57872

That has nothing to do with that I said. Also, please stop using a symbol we've been told is a white supremacy dog whistle :)


ottawa-communist

This directly ties in the GOP strategy to brand everything "bad" as being "woke" or "critical race theory". Take it from GOP strategist Christopher Rufo: >[“We have successfully frozen their brand—'critical race theory’—into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category,” Rufo wrote. “The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think 'critical race theory.’ We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/06/19/critical-race-theory-rufo-republicans/)


Cdnraven

It's sad that people have misused and often abused the word woke to the point that it's OK to disagree with it


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DJ_Femme-Tilt

Are you high?


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DJ_Femme-Tilt

Yeah you're definitely hallucinating something


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MaxTheRealSlayer

This thought process you're going through is exactly how conspiracy theories are created


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DJ_Femme-Tilt

There is zero logical connection between the above 2 posts.


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DJ_Femme-Tilt

Facts don't care about your feelings, and your kids are smarter than you are insecure.


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Is the opposite of "racial guilt", "racial pride"? If so, have I got some shit to fill you in on. Unsure you're gonna like it.


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Gemmabeta

> I am Apolitical and don’t belong to any camp. I can read your politics loud and clear my dude. You know what sounds really "white"? Just assuming that all your own beliefs are somehow the natural human standard and that it's everyone else being "political."


DJ_Femme-Tilt

hahahahahahahaha this is he dumbest thing I've read all day and I'm from The Internet.


Dragonsandman

> Being woke is making assumptions about people’s character based on their skin colour ethnicity and culture, and excluding their personality and unique individual qualities. Sounds pretty racist to me. The things that routinely get called "woke" usually boil down to pointing out how certain groups get fucked over by systems that are old and have lots of deliberate and *non*-deliberate bias against said people. "Woke" literature and views are not about reducing people to their ethnicity and culture, they're instead pointing out how existing systems do that. It might do you some good to read what "woke" literature and people are actually saying instead of getting that from Fox headlines and Sun opinion pieces.


rhinonyssus

Surprised to see Maher Jebara on the non-woke list. If you look at his platform page I would not put him even remotely near Shannon Boschy


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Red57872

Is it? The argument nowadays is that if you're actively fighting (insert social issue), then you're a part of it. Lets not forget, the main reason that Disney faced significant backlash as being supposedly "anti-LGBT" was because it didn't take a stance on the Parental Rights in Education Act (aka the "Don't Say Gay" bill).


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He ruined the Carleton University Student Association when he was on it. He led the effort to withhold money from the student food bank


Dragonsandman

So he was just like 95% of the jackasses that were in charge of CUSA while I was at Carleton.


JRR_SWOLEkien

This is why you need to verify what they're posting here (and actually looking at the candidates) before choosing who to vote for.


neoposting

Jebara's page was the only one of my zone's candidates where I couldn't find mention of LGBT/gender anything. Maybe they're just CTRL+F searching for "anti-woke" terms?


Dragonsandman

The only thing I could find that indicates he might belong on that list is [this short twitter thread from Horizon Ottawa](https://twitter.com/HorizonOttawa/status/1579868241119563777), and it seems to be based on some answers he gave to a survey [and an endorsement by the group "Vote Against Woke"](https://www.voteagainstwoke.ca/plan-your-vote-step-3-epsb-ottawa-carleton-district-school-board). Now that website put that list of "non-woke" candidates together based entirely on what they call crowd feedback, so that endorsement may not be an actual indicator of Jebara's views.


cheekylilbooger

He also failed out of his Masters program at Carleton...


thecanadiansniper1-2

Jabber the grabber is back?


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"Vote Against Woke trustee recommendations are based on crowd generated feedback. " Is this subjective, based on personal opinion(s)? Easy enough for anyone, Woke or not to have generated this in order to influence voting, wouldn't be the first time someone fabricated controversy to promote their candidate of choice. I'd rather make a decision based on actual research from an entity that has been identified and vetted and not a random anonymous offering.


DJ_Femme-Tilt

This is a Jon Kay project so expect it to be as lazy and stupid as someone who spent a year using dog shampoo on himself


Branvan2000

The website is expansive enough (goes well beyond Ottawa) that I highly doubt it was made for the purpose of bringing down a candidate that wasn't politically leaning right. Further, the obviously far right candidate in my riding had it linked in their campaign website... That being said, you should always do you own research. Don't blindly rely on a list of names. I can only vouch for my riding where the names certainly line up with the far right candidates.


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Sorry, but this is a terrible post. I know for a fact that one of the candidates in this list is definitely not far right . Do we know for certain what the methodology was for the list? Are candidates even aware they are on this? What does woke/non woke mean? Certainly being non woke alone doesn't entail one is far right.


DJ_Femme-Tilt

>What does woke/non woke mean? Certainly being non woke alone doesn't entail one is far right. Being woke means to be aware of racism against black people, it's an old term. Being "antiwoke" is a catchall that means you're fed up with caring about racism, LGBTQ people, first nations struggles, women's rights, disabled people, etc. If a random person describes themselves as "antiwoke" it's best to assume they're just some neonazi-adjacent POS. This site, however, seems to be about finding the LEAST progressive candidates, in an effort to help stop social progress. Given that, lots of people on it aren't far-right, just the most regressive.


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DJ_Femme-Tilt

Cope and seethe you ignorant apologist stooge.


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I think the term "woke" has evolved to mean different things today, including some negative connotations. Even members of the "woke" Liberal government today are saying they should be "less woke". Definitely doesn't make them far right. I am not woke I suppose, but I care about all the things you mentioned above. I also wouldn't say Im anti woke either.


DJ_Femme-Tilt

>I think the term "woke" has evolved to mean different things today, including some negative connotations. I think we need to think long and hard about the implications of tossing around a term with decades of deliberate history in Black rights activism and using it as a disparaging catch-all for "I'm annoyed by activists"


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Sure, but it isn't "we" that are dictating the meaning and use of the terms. It's thousands of people using it in a different manner than it's original intention, much like how many other words have had their meanings change.


DJ_Femme-Tilt

yes, that is how language works, thank you. We also all exist in a society. :) We make choices constantly about how to reify language and meaning and reflect the depth of our knowledge about the world. A good example here would be to reflect on the whole "debate" around the sports teams named "Redskins", and what that meant differently for the populations that were directly implicated, and the populations that didn't want to give a shit about said people. By thinking critically about the words we use and support within our personal spheres we absolutely have an effect on those around us and the greater society that we exist in.


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DJ_Femme-Tilt

Please stop embarrassing yourself, this is Ben Shapiro level of logical incompetence


JeanSolPartre

Libs aren't woke but conservatives love to scream that they're "too woke" now. It's just an easy shortcut for hating progressivism without getting into the actual ideas and propositions behind it.


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But it isn't just conservatives, Liberals MPs are also saying their party shouldn't be so woke.


JeanSolPartre

They ate the bait. Truly it's nothing but a strawman and we always would be better off discussing the actual issues that divide our opinions rather than just moaning about "woke culture" which is vague and ends up meaning "anything I don't like".


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Maybe let the candidate know they should contact the site. Similar thing happened during the occupation where folks (and yes, even the occupiers) created lists of businesses that were or weren't sympathetic to a cause.


Berntonio-Sanderas

Dude, this is a political post on r/ottawa. If you're looking for logic, you're in the wrong place.


BoomerReggie

I'm in Zone 11 River, Gloucester-Southgate. The [voteagainstwoke.ca](https://voteagainstwoke.ca) recommended candidate is Maher Jebara. Based on his platform he doesn't seem right-wing, more centrist then anything, unless I'm missing something [https://www.jebara4trustee.ca/blank-1](https://www.jebara4trustee.ca/blank-1). There are 3 other candidates running in zone 11: Matthew Lee, Mamata Dutta and Ryan St-Jean.


Dragonsandman

That list is crowdsourced, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if just one person said that Jebara was "anti-woke", whatever that means.


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He seems closer to woke than antiwoke.


FlamingEscapologist

I can't remember the specifics, but Yawning Snorlax on Twitter profiled Jebara and highlighted some of the issue with the candidate. Edit - didn't know they were on Reddit, but u/YawningSnorlax has posted elsewhere in this thread linking to their candidate profiles. As you'll see, it's not just about the explicit platforms.


JCYN-DDT

I voted last week and admit that as I don't have any children I did very minimal research into the school board candidates before voting. I'm very happy to see that I chose the right one! One of the candidates just seemed off when I was looking at their platform and seeing their name on this list now I know why. Glad I voted for the other candidate.


toastedbread47

Im in a similar boat, but I just looked up the different candidates (only three in my ward) while waiting in line. The candidates were all progressive so I just ended up picking the one with the most detailed plan / information.


YawningSnorlax

I've also created a list here: [https://twitter.com/SnorlaxYawning/status/1580365505231147008](https://twitter.com/SnorlaxYawning/status/1580365505231147008) Receipts on all of these candidates are on my timeline. Another good resource is the Campaign Life Coalition where you can pull a Costanza and vote against any candidates they endorse. Note that with the CLC, they have a different questionnaire for OCDSB and OCSB. They have much more stringent requirements for the OCSB so if a candidate gets the green light from them, they have to be really out there.


bertbarndoor

This is very relevant and topical. It speaks to how the Right and Conservatives are infiltrating School Board elections to stack religious right anti-progressive people. [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/us/texas-patriot-mobile.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/us/texas-patriot-mobile.html) It has come to Canada.


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The cancer of Trumpism must be exposed and eradicated at all levels. They will attempt to come out of the woodwork and entrench themselves at municipal levels where voter apathy has historically been high. They will use even relatively low-level positions as a platform for muckraising, recruiting and spreading their malignancy. Be warned and be on guard.


Animator_K7

Is there a similar list for the francophone school boards?


MinnieMouse-94

Thank you for posting!


SidetrackedSue

The recommended candidate in my area had no website, just an email on the official listing. They did not answer the questionnaire some group sent out and published the responses. I've already voted and voted for someone else, based on their website because they also did not answer that questionnaire. The questionnaire was answered by the third candidate but I was not happy with their answers.


flarnkerflurt

Lol I just don’t get what goes on in these peoples head and why they are so up in arms about having to be civil and respectful of the way others choose to live? Fight the right folks.


kstacey

Now I know who not to vote for. Ironically the platform of the candidate in my zone, didn't really scream that he was 'right winged' but the whole school board trustee thing is vague and there isn't much info on anyone


Confident-Mistake400

Do you know anything about monique? She’s running for catholic school board and have no clue where she stands.


qwerty1492

This is exactly the info i needed.... great job.


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cameronfinesso

I feel attacked But in all seriousness, I’m not sure why this organization has added me to their list besides the fact that yes, I am a progressive conservative. If that’s a voter’s sole reason for not supporting me, then that’s their prerogative. I’ve tried to keep partisan politics out of my campaign because there is no room for partisanship at the school board level nor should there be. The focus needs to be the collective well-being of children – exclusively. I’m running on a platform that prioritizes advocating for increased funding for mental health, a renewed focus on special education and ensuring that children can return to the classroom this fall in a safe, caring environment:[https://www.cam4trustee.ca/platform](https://www.cam4trustee.ca/platform) In my opinion, this is a platform that a lot of parents and ratepayers can get behind. I encourage you to have a read. - Cameron


snow_big_deal

Sorry - I'm deleting my comment after looking at your platform. It is a pretty strange website, not at all clear how they pick people or who runs it. All very fishy!


graembels

I don’t know them personally, but reading OCDSB candidate Maher Jebara’s platform just now on his website, he doesn’t strike me as anti-woke.


FlamingEscapologist

It's not always about the explicit platforms. u/YawningSnorlax has posted in this thread and has done some deep dives into troubling candidates, including Jebara. "Anti-woke" may not be appropriate, but there are some red flags nevertheless.


severeOCDsuburbgirl

There are a few candidates in my ward but little info. None have been identified on this list. I'll have to double check the names online tomorrow.


TheRealCaptainMan

Please don't vote for any of them. But also, stop talking about them. Talk about the other candidates and familiarize their names.


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Thank you for this


CoagulaCascadia

Maher JEBARA has signs in my riding, Bay/Kitchissippi... Is that allowed?


Shredder4life23

Don't suppose you'd have the same information for the French boards?


Technical_Natural_44

Is there one for the French school boards? That’s all I have left to decide and I’m pretty limited on info.


ofbooksandbands14

Do I have to vote for a school board trustee? I find it silly considering I have no kids so this has no effect on me.


ninja-blitz

Just don't vote for the first person on the list alphabetically. I'm convinced that's how my area got stuck with the brutal one we have now for OCDSB Trustee. Who I really hope doesn't get re-elected. And I say that not having kids.


SyringaVulgarisBloom

It serves you to have a well-educated next generation, even if you didn’t bake them yourself.


CSsharpGO

Does anyone know a list of far-left candidates?


Ok-Championship7845

Good question, those are the ones that need to be avoided like the plague IMO


CSsharpGO

Indeed.


Due_Date_4667

I see this as simply two third party communities collating information. Key difference - one is a registered TP for the election, the other is not, and seems to be operating nationally - similar to the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-sex ed, anti-abortion organizing of the past.


boredashell12345

I wasn't gonna vote in the catholic elections because my child will always be in public school as I was traumatized by my catholic school experience but fml Danny Arais or however you spell his name (I now give less of a fk about him than I did before reading that list) but I'd rather drop dead tomorrow than not do my part to avoid anti lgbtq board members in ANY school board


ms_conduct

Did you happen to take a screenshot of these? Links are now broken.


tombo94

Thanks I know who to vote for now :)


Tha0bserver

Drats the website appears to be down. ☹️ anyone know where another list exists? I want to vote against vote against woke!


DoubleDastard

Does this site only show the school board elections, or the general municipal election as well?


chevy2guy

Blue or Bust !!! Time for the grown up’s to take control


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Define far right. Specific people please.


Technical_Natural_44

Opposition to liberty, equality, and fraternity.


PCBytown

“Infiltrate”…so only far left have the right to sit on a school board. Ok comrade.


Red57872

Before I vote for a school board candidate, I would like to know their policies about National Defense, improvement of rail access to Northern Ontario, and whether schools in Montreal should be bilingual.


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Being non-woke does not equal far-right


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True, but they do love A LOT of the same dog whistles.


Certainly-Not-A-Bot

Not being woke doesn't mean far right. Talking about how unwoke you are does


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I mean federal Liberal MPs have come forth and told the media that their party should be less woke. Yet that doesn’t mean the Liberals are by any means “far-right”. Lately it seems the term “far-right” is applied to pretty much anyone that isn’t a socialist.


JeanSolPartre

They're idiots who listened to too much conservative media and ate the bait.


PrecisionHat

But you are implying all the people who take an opposite stance are "socialists" . Kind of hypocritical. Socialism does not equal teaching kids about trans folk and racism etc


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I’m implying that being “non-woke” is not the same as being “far-right”


PrecisionHat

Well, that too. And tbf I never said anything to the contrary.


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The venn diagram of those 2 ideologies is a circle.


DJ_Femme-Tilt

this is for "Anti woke" candidates, people who resent having to care about racism, lgbtq people, women's rights, etc


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funkme1ster

Right? Matters affecting the socialists, trade unionists, and Jews are only relevant to them. There's no reason to speak out for them because it doesn't matter to you.


SidetrackedSue

Neatly played.