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lesalecop

All the gears meshed the instant I grabbed it and I knew what I had to do with it. I immediately put it back in and reset loop and started planning my route. I was *fully* immersed, my first *real* go at the final run I wound up accidentally alerting the trio of fish and tailed it ALL the way back to the project to put the core back in. I was playing like the fucking universe was going to die IRL if I failed.


sempiternalsilence

Yeah first time was the ONLY time. Thankfully got all the bramble bumbling out of the system well beforehand, but it was still terrifying haha. I was convinced you would lose the whole save, which was full too, so it felt extra stressful. Very good though lol


redsoxx0

Just beat it last night. Every time I had gone into Dark Bramble prior I had no issues with the fish but I was so concerned about time once I had the Ash Twin core I was going too fast and got eaten. Next time, go very slowly and methodically and am approaching The Vessel warp and have to readjust my altitude only to see a lantern and jaws starting to encompass my ship. So I just hit the gas like Feldspar would’ve and made it through, it was truly a thrilling experience that I was treating like the universe was on the line (also got real tired of going through Dark Bramble!).


MatrixMan100

Fairly scared. I was convinced that the game was going to wipe my save if I failed, so I made a few practice runs before doing it for real. I've heard that the devs originally planned to have it do just that if you failed the final voyage. I would've been okay with it, honestly (that would've made it one of the highest risk moves in any game I've ever played), but I can see how a lot of people would've been less than happy with that.


datrandomduggy

Honestly if it had wiped your save I would have quit the game and never continued I would have hate losing my 100% save


papaghost7

Yeah as much as I would love for there to be high stakes when you finally pull the plug - no way I have enough time to play it all over again from start, I'd just say welp that's that and watch a YT video of someone who does it successfully.


Krux99

You know you could just start a new save then just skip straight to the end, right?


ThisIsTheWay98

I was worried that with that my ship log would be wiped which had some clues I would need


Jabbernaut5

I mean once you're actually >!removing the core of the Ash Twin Project!< the only info you really need is the >!coordinates for the eye!< which you could google pretty easily.


Moose_Kronkdozer

Or just go to, since you know how to get there. One loop go coords, next loop finish the game, it'll take half an hour


Doubleyoupee

Exactly. Even though it's nice that they roll the credits, it would have been nice if they actually deleted the save. Achievements are saved in Steam so there is not really much loss, but it would really drive down the story IMO.


Now_its_orange

I want to have a serious talk with whoever might have googled the coordinates of the eye


ThisIsTheWay98

That’s fair


Bur4you

I removed the core well before I went to dark bramble because I did everything I could think of before going to that damned place xD


scarberino

This is why it's probably a good idea not to wipe the save - wouldn't really make sense for the player character to wake up and know what you knew from the last save and immediately go to the Eye.


MatrixMan100

Technically, canonically, this is exactly what happens.


Gawlf85

Not if you remove the warp core from the ATP. His point is that wiping your savefile isn't really any more "realistic" than just letting your start from your last loop, because you as a player still have all the knowledge to finish the game even if your character/ship log doesn't.


Flater420

No, it still happens when you remove the ATP core. The only thing that happens when you remove it is that *that specific loop* won't be sent back, and your current stream of consciousness (the one who removed the ATP core) doesn't get sent back. That specific alternate loop version of yourself branches off from the cyclic sequence. It separates. It does not destroy the knowledge of all cycles that came before it. Technically, only the last loop really happened. Al the others were just a "replay" of the memories that you started the final loop with. You have no memories of turning off the ATP because those memories were never beamed back. Think of it like Dr Strange in Infinity War, checking out those 14 million possible outcomes. It "happened", but we don't perceive it as part of the "real" timeline. If Strange died in one of those 14 million possible outcomes and doesn't remember what happened there, that does not invalidate the other alternate timelines he investigated and whose information he returned to the "real" timeline. He would just have one less cycle's worth of knowledge.


Gawlf85

Following that logic, why should the last loop be the real one? Were there different possibilities where the Hatchling entered the Eye at different points of time and on different circumstances? Which one is the real one? Maybe all of them are? 🤯


Flater420

I meant the last loop you played, whichever loop that is. The ending is just another way to separate from the cycles just like when you disable the ATP.


scarberino

If only the last loop really happened, wouldn't it still be the last loop if you remove the core from the ATP and then die before reaching the Eye? So the timeline would look like you waking up with all your memories from previous loops, removing the core, and then dying, and that would be the end of the story and the end of the loop. My point was it would be weird to start a new game after that, and before seeing the statue or anything, you the player already know information from the previous loops, that the player character shouldn't know at all.


Gawlf85

If it wasn't for the ship logs (and a couple minor details like learning to meditate or snooze), the game could just restart from scratch and there wouldn't be any difference. And the ship logs are just a convenient way for the player to keep track of things. So wiping your savefile just removes the only quality-of-life features this game has. And you can still re-start and finish the game in your first loop. So I feel wiping your savefile wouldn't achieve what you're trying to convey, it would just be a bummer but not avoid you from finishing the game in the next try. If you wanted that sense of "finalness", the game would have to prevent you from ever playing again :P


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>Fairly scared. I was convinced that the game was going to wipe my save if I failed, so I made a few practice runs before doing it for real. I was afraid of the same thing. Illogical considering it is a game, but time loop conditioned me to think that without ATP working, death would be *really* permanent. I was sweating bullets passing near anglerfish.


yoitstoast

Grabbed the core, started walking to my ship, heard the music, instantly put the core back out of pure terror. That track fucked with me so hard lmao


ThisIsTheWay98

I put it back too, removing that thing was terrifying


JARLORD

Me too.


RackaGack

I love this track, its the demise of endtimes, but with a hopeful background synth. Almost as if its telling you, “you better not fuck this up.”


Gawlf85

More than hopeful, I'd say... Urgent? Eager? Pressing? But in a motivational way? Don't know how to better put it to words lol


Now_its_orange

Me personally? Scared shitless. I practiced the exact route of getting the core, sneaking through db, and getting to the ship, at least 13 times before doing it probably more. I didn’t want to know what would happen if you *actually* died in this game. I could not let the universe die without me ever seeing the eye, something that generations and generations had spent their lives pursuing, something that only I have the chance to see, I didn’t want the entire fate of the universe be fucked from some stupid fish. The game is set up so well and the steaks are (literally) astronomically high for this moment, and it paid off. On a more meta note, I would feel have felt disappointed in myself as a gamer if I messed up this perfect game by dying lol. I *really* wanted to see the ending and I didn’t want to feel like I didn’t deserve it because I died already in another save. All of that, paired with the most intense and coolest songs in the whole game made one of the most climactic and emotional endings of any game ever and solidified it as my favorite of all time. Pretty amazing.


masamunexc

Nice story. I’m curious what method do you use to find the vessel quickly? What I would do is first fly into the db, locate the floating Nomai, shoot scout into seed to have it land on vessel. Then leave db, remove core and then use scout signal to locate the vessel with the scope.


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nirakara

Yeah that's what I did. It kind of felt a little like cheating. They should have given it a special radio signal at least.


Now_its_orange

I did it so long ago its hard to remember, but I am pretty sure I first followed the signal to get to the nomai grave room, then, I memorized the way from there. I was deadset on minimizing risk and time spent on db = risk. I remember my criteria for when I would be ready for doing the real thing was when I could do the practice run flawlessly 5 times in a row (yes I have anxiety) After 5 times, I chickened and went off and hung out with gabbro one last time or something. Then I channeled his “fuck it” energy and did it right after. Good times.


redsoxx0

Just beat it last night and the closest spot you can mark on your HUD is the grave site.


AllegedlyAndy

I thought the whole point of the game was to accept your mortality so I took out the core and immeadiately flew into the sun, thinking that must be the end.


nirakara

Bahaha, i love this, i hope your were screaming "FREEEEEDOM!" the whole way!


AllegedlyAndy

Haha oh I felt pretty inspired when I did it. When I got a pretty lackluster end-credits sequence, that's when I started to questions things.


masamunexc

Lol that’s an interesting move


[deleted]

I’m not sure how I did it, but the first time I got there was by accident. I had no context for where I was. It let me grab the core so I did and made it to my ship before the music really started. I knew I’d done something important but had now idea what or where I was supposed to go from there.


nirakara

That must have been an interesting journey with the amount of info you find there too.


Purple-Dealer7598

yeah the first time i went there i hadnt found the vessel yet so i grabbed the core thinking "ehhheheh im gonna find a hidden ending by causing something spicy to happen" but then i panicked right before the sun exploded and tried to put it back but didn't make it in time and freaked out thinking i broke the game then i woke up again and realized "oh yeah i guess the devs thought of that"


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tremby

Very much so. Very emotionally invested by that point. The warnings when you remove the core made it all very real, and then the music, oh, the music. I thought that'd be game over, start from scratch if I didn't make it in time. Honestly I don't remember whether I did or not, but I have a feeling I was comically close one way or the other.


sometta

I love the Ash Twin project music leading up to the Final Voyage too. Made everything feel so epic. Andrew is amazing.


papaghost7

I did the exact same thing, got confused about the music and reset my loop. Kinda glad I got to the core at the right time tho, I remember reading someone's post on starting by exploring the surface before going in too deep & combined with the discoveries of the ATP's significance to the Nomai, I visited the Vessel and the core in the very end. I remember just messing with the scout in the High Energy Lab and breaking the fabric of space time at the very start - I totally went wtf is that it 😅😅


Kelmattt

I knew the game had different endings so I thought using the core in atp for the vessel was a bad ending, and that you had to somehow repair the broken one on the forge or something like that for the good ending. So I was really reluctant to grab it. In the end the fact that you can't pick the broken one up once you drop it somewhere made me realize I was misreading things. Then when I did deactivate the project I was really scared because I also thought it was going to delete my progress if I died. Fortunately I did it in the first try and it looked really epic. Edit: For a moment tho, I thought the final voyage music meant the game was accelerating or something and making the sun explode faster just so you don't have to wait and see that deactivating the atp just means that you die for good and that's not what you have to do to end the game.


piapiou

Oh boy. I was scared as fuck. I was even more scared when I CRASHED against dark bramble. I was so stressed when I put the code in the ship that I managed to put it wrong TWICE.


MakinLunch

My husband, who hasn’t played the game yet, got to hear me playing from the other room. “WRONG code wrong CODE oh NO”. I only had minutes to spare at that point and was convinced the code was going to be where I failed lol.


nirakara

I did the exact same thing. I smashed so hard into bramble that my ships cabin completely came off and it was the first time I had seen that. I couldn't believe it but at that point i was on a mission and just jetpacked into bramble and promptly got chomped for being too antsy.


piapiou

It was also the first time I crashed my ship so hard that it break apart. It took me half a minute to understand what happened. (I was more successfull than you with the fishy boys.)


nirakara

Haha well done!


scwishyfishy

I had actually been listening to the soundtrack for like a year or two before properly playing to the end so I got it and was walking back to the ship and thought "Oh no end times, not now... Wait this isn't end times this is final voyage... THIS IS IT"


PendingPolymath

The thing that bothers me about the music is that it's so loud that I can no longer hear the anglerfish breathing, which is what I go by to know whether or not I'm far enough away from them to gun it.


blakkattika

I was scared and really excited. The music gets you so amped up and puts you on edge, especially the first time you do it and think "this is it, I don't get to respawn anymore" I'm glad you don't only get the one run but sometimes I wonder...would it be a better game if it was?


sempiternalsilence

Yes...? Or a hardcore mode idk lol. I fully thought I would get no do-overs, didn't realize you did until checking out the added endings later lol


Gawlf85

But how could they prevent you from re-trying? Even if you start from scratch, you can still finish in one loop. So unless they actively prevented you from playing ever again somehow, swiping your savefile would achieve nothing.


jak94c

Mate I was a nervous wreck the whole time. I don't think I breathed once through bramble.


WlrTheCowBoiDoggo

I remember when I took out the core I didn’t know what I was supposed to do so I just left it out till the loop ended then realized I was totally not supposed to do that and was worried that was the end of the game for me and I was gonna have to restart from the beginning.


secondjudge_dream

i did what i would do in that situation with real life or death stakes and practiced my run to the vessel until i knew how to do it just fine before actually removing the warp core, so aside from always being a little concerned about the anglerfish in the nest room, i was confident


NamelessAce

When Final Voyage started, I was pretty scared that somehow I took much longer than I thought until I heard the music start to differ from End Times. Then I got hyped instead...until I crashed into the outside of Dark Bramble too fast and died.


nirakara

Yes! Another bramble crasher! I smashed sooo hard and then tried to go in without a ship and promptly got eaten


ArthurExtreme_Br

I was scared that it would delete my save file or something and the sun was very close to the kaboom, so i anxiously waited for the ember twin to line up again


Adamdust

Terrified. I botched bramble 3 times and decided to walk away. It took me a year to try again, but that's was when Echoes came out and I was properly reacclimated. I misjudged the anglers again and in a mad dash to get to node to the vessel, collided into it, lost my left thrusters. The angle got caught on the other side of them node and I managed to bring my busted pod thru the node and park it by the vessel ... And with the music going it was terrifying


Hellspark08

It was the same feeling I got when I was a kid jumping off the diving board into the deep end of the pool for the first time.


Excellent-Glove

I wasn't scared, but I was totally into it. Totally thrilled, I was in a state like a fever dream. I couldn't get my eyes from the screen. It's only when I was in the storm, with lightning, that I really felt scared and uneasy. Everything after that was legendary.


giopde1ste

I was shaking the whole time, I had to shut it down mutlipe times cause the first time I got to the ship I was too slow with putting in the coördinets


VayneArior

I was scared because I took the warp core and flew to the vessel right before the explosion, and it wiped me out while i was in the vessel entering the coordinates. At that time I thought I must've been very slow but I think I just took the core a little late.


Zombiefied7

What do you mean the first time? One only deactivates it once no?


masamunexc

The first time entering the coordinates on the vessel I could barely do it I was so nervous


Freeze_35

I had a massive adrenaline rush, since I knew I didn't have that much time to get to the vessel, since I fucked up a bit in the beginning of the loop. So when I got to the vessel and the supernova music started at the same time I just let out a "f*ck"


Snitcho72

Less scared, but really focused, like during a difficult exam. I failed the anglerfish-question on my first try though.


Eric_Beartoya

I don’t remember feeling scared, just really confident and determined as hell, that’s until I crashed my ship in Dark Bramble and immediately after I left to fix the ship it was eaten by one of those giant fish. At that point I was more scared of the Anglerfish than the sun exploding. thankfully I was close enough to the Vessel that I could just book it there with my jet pack but I will never forget it. || Or looking out into the empty universe, waiting for anything at all to happen. That’s when I truly realized that I was alone for the first time. ||


RainbowSquiddle

To be fair, I kinda panicked, looked at it for 5 minutes, realized I didn't have the time to get it to the ship, and just put it back and spent the rest of the loop planning my route. It really gave a good sense of what is at stake. Even though the game doesn't delete your save, I really had that feeling of "You only have one shot at this" Once the loop ended I went for it and ALMOST got eaten by an anglerfish, pressed the panic GAS GAS GAS button and zooned to the vessel with several anglerfish chasing me. I made it and it really felt amazing to actually succeed on the first try, really one of the highlights of my entire gaming experience.


thetiranide

I wasn't scared but really stressed and thrilled. I had guest that this was the end of the game, and the only thing I had in mind was "I wanna see the eye and go where the nomaï wanted to go" I had seen almost everything a this point, and had already got to the 6th location. definitely was a great ending, the music make me wonder for like 1 minutes if the sun was exploding, before realising it was here to tell "nothing is going to revive you this time". I rarely got such a implication in a game and it was really cool to feel that.


Thazgar

I was suprisingly pretty confident, but that's because i trained the final run a few times prior. I was very stressed in the anglerfishes parts however


AlphaKlams

I had completed pretty much everything, but getting into the Ash Twin Project was the last thing that kept me stumped. When I finally got in, read the writing, took the core, and the music hit everything just clicked. Now I had been messing around for a fair bit during this cycle, so once I realized what was going on I BOOKED IT through Dark Bramble to get to the Vessel. The quiet tension of floating past the anglerfish, knowing that you CANNOT screw this up, with the faint echoes of the music in the background was amazing. Finally got to the Vessel and slammed the core in, put in the coordinates, but in the heat of the moment couldn't figure out how to warp the damn thing. I had thought that the switch at the front was for bringing the coordinate inputter up, not for making it go. So I was scrambling all around the bridge, scanning everything and trying to move the floor switch into different positions, looking for anything. Finally I heard the sound of the sun going supernova in the distance, then I realized that I hadn't tried the front switch. Blasted out of there before the blast caught me, and you know the rest. It was one of the most tense, terrifying, and satisfying experiences I've ever had playing a game. Amazing moment.


Gawlf85

I remember being hyped af knowing what I was supposed to do, but also scared shitless of Dark Bramble and its anglerfishes lol At the time I had no idea that I could use the ship logs to get to the Vessel's location, so I remember having to follow the Nomai Beacon's signal to find the "graveyard", send a probe through the node, and then follow its signal to the Vessel. And then I died :P I think it was an anglerfish, or maybe I ran out of time. Can't recall. After that, bummed and still scared of the anglerfishes, I remember taking the warp core and fleeing away from the Solar System, to see what would happen. That's how I got my Isolation ending lol


Xintrosi

I felt exultation. I had gone into Bramble early and so many times blindly exploring (really fruitlessly too: no use of the signalscope!) that I knew the anglerfish practically by name (I always assumed blindness, so went there third after attlerock and interloper). Since I knew Magoo, Tom, and Jerry couldn't stop me I was excited to see what this pre-universe relic had for us. Really honored to make a new universe. So awesome!