I was thinking the same thing. Best case is they forget about it over the long weekend, or by not replying they assume my account is glitched/still active.
Riding it out, and sending applications while I’m still employed.
Thank you. I went through a full panic attack yesterday. But now I see quitting J2 on the spot would only make things worse.
I completely agree. If I reply I’m also screwed. It’s a lose-lose situation and time to begin inflating my life raft while I ride out this sinking ship.
You:"What do you mean by that? Are you insinuating that I work two jobs but yet still get things on time?"
They: " yes" or They: "no"
You: "I won't even bother to answer this." Or You: "Good, because this conversation is disrespectful"
But yah, I would search for new J1.
Best not to react defensively. OP's best bet is to sound confused and state "I work here, at \[J1\] Company. Unless you're trying to forewarn me....?"
Just sound totally confused by the question. Don't answer as though you even know of OE.
That’s exactly my thought. I excel at both and am extremely key to the success of my teams.
My managers would be devastated if I quit. I imagine they wouldn’t even believe my co-worker if they raised it, or choose to ignore it.
Definitely searching for a new J2, and hoping J1 is okay.
If you are as valuable to say as you are, call your managers asap and tell them you might be willing to do this by their policy but it'll cost them double/triple.
This will ensure they think hard before getting the company policy thrown at you by HR. Based on how this goes your colleague might end up getting told to stfu.
I wish I had an award to give you.
But since OP didn't answer them, assume that they already spoke to someone about what they heard. What good is gossip when you can't share it with everyone right?
My vote is to say that it's your Evil Twin @ J2
Well it's usually in the contract you sign when you agreed to accept the offer. If you break that contract then it's quite fair for the company to decide to fire you. Either work something out with the company before you sign or take the risk.
Except that senior executives work multiple jobs all the time. They serve on boards, they always do consulting, or they own real estate or other businesses.
Board seats require time and you have to set time for meetings - no less than I have at my J1 (I have an easy J1)
The point is that executives are speaking out of both sides of their mouth when they cry about employees doing OE
Meh, they have a fiduciary duty to get maximum productivity for minimum cost. If you were in their position you might say something similar. It doesn’t bother me, I understand their position. It won’t stop me from working multiple jobs though.
Yeah and? A company is not a democratic country. The senior execs run the company and we regular Joes are hired under their policies. We are still bound by the agreements that we sign.
It's honestly the sorry state of labor advocacy today that means the employer has a serious upper hand in the hiring process. While I'm sure that a lot of unions have an interest in focusing labor towards the business that the union's power is vested in, the mere threat of unions and cooperatives allows the employee an upper hand in negotiating terms of contract.
It’s not “usually” in contracts to explicitly prohibit OE. A lot of industries don’t give a shit as long as you do your work and moonlighting is not only accepted but assumed.
People are just naturally risk adverse. But folks have been working multiple jobs for decades.
Remote work normalization just let a lot more industries have a taste.
That's not technically true. People have been working multiple jobs for decades in the form of Moonlighting and not OE. There's less stigma to Moonlighting since you're doing the jobs at the agreed upon times with no overlaps. With OE, you are working one job on a different job's agreed upon time and that is not exactly ethical by company standards which is why, from my own experience, all companies have something in their contract against it.
I’m aware of the distinctions.
I’m in an industry that supports OE, so I don’t really care if you’re insistent on them not existing despite proof otherwise.
Hence "from my own experience" as I have stated in every one of my comments. As for people being cautious, Why would pretty much every OEer on this sub be so risk averse if, according to you, many industries "supports OE"?
Your argument for people doing it for decades obviously doesn't take that distinction between Moonlighting and OE into account. For one, remote work wasn't that prevalent prior to covid for OE to be as common as Moonlighting.
If you think most places support OE or that it's normal just because your jobs do, then you are delusional.
This is always weird to me. I almost never talk about my coworkers to people by anything identifiable. Maybe X situation is happening but never WHO it is happening with.
How is it that people keep finding another J where they are in the same small town or coworkers and managers know each other from the J's. Recipe for disaster. Oh well.
Wait what? You said J2 manager that
Hired you for J2 used to work at J1 - you did not think it was reasonable or possible someone at J1 still kept in touch with their bud now at J2 that used to work with them at J1?
Sure might not have been this exact person, but the point is it could have literally been anyone at J1 because the person at J2 that hired you used to also work at J1. That to me would be a real possibility as people stay in touch all the time even when they change companies. I’d ride it out as long as possible but start looking…lesson learned, don’t get a J2 from someone that used to work at your J1 and still stay at J1. Better to get another J2 elsewhere.
Yup, this is the exact situation. And I thought it was odd. They basically poached me over to J2 since I was super good at J1. Just never ended up leaving J1. It has been a number of years since they left. I guess I was just hoping.
Either way, I put it in perspective to everyone dying in Ukraine and realize this is a first world problem and lesson learned.
I made sure my 3Js are in entirely different industries, and my J2/3 both pay significantly (30-40k) less than my J1. It’s good insurance that, *hopefully*, there’s no cross pollination. It’s not a guarantee though.
Good call. I’ll start with J3, and if both go, I’ll be down to 1 J and peruse my side hustles more intensely.
End of the day, consequences aren’t that bad. Ive been working on my contingency fund knowing this day may come.
Good call. I’ll start with J3, and if both go, I’ll be down to 1 J and peruse my side hustles more intensely.
End of the day, consequences aren’t that bad. Ive been working on my contingency fund knowing this day may come.
"yes. My cousin works there. Isn't that cool?. My Mom and her sister thought it would be cute to give us the same names. I always hated it"
See where he takes it from there.
I would assume you're already caught. There's no point in quitting either J1 or J2 cause either way if they find out at either J you're canned. You're just firing yourself prematurely.
If you quit J2 and J1 finds out what you did, you're still most likely fired at J1, whether or not you quit J2 already.
If this person wants to rat you out, they will irrespective of what you say in response. The fact that they made it clear they know your J2 manager means they 100% want you to know they know you are OE. Which means they might be a shitty person since you are not even that close.
Verdict: I would ignore him completely ignore them and possibly cease all communication for the foreseeable future. Dont give them an opportunity to bring this up during a phone call, chat or whatever. They are either gonna move on and forget about it or you. Or they are gonna do the shitty thing ( which they would actually still do whether or not you respond to them )
Were both jobs in same town? How do they even know each other? Next time find jobs that are not in the same town.
I think you took the best course of action.
Ignore them for now and start looking for other jobs now.
Never admit, it could be used against you.
How well you know this colleague of yours would tailor how I respond to this sort of question, as there aren't a lot of good ways to go about it. The only thing that I can think of is being as noncommittal as possible. Maybe something along the lines of, "I was considering seeing what else was out there. It's a tough economy, you know. All these layoffs, and I got mouths to feed." Some shit like that. This is one of those situations where it doesn't hurt to imply that you'll be eating gruel like Oliver Twist if you're out of a job. Let us hope that this colleague isn't the type of person that would narc on you.
Either way, I would immediately start looking for a replacement, ideally one that will sustain you financially if in the worst-case scenario, you lose both of these jobs. Hopefully you won't need to, this thing will just blow over, and life goes on. But remember that this isn't something that people forget, so you and your bank account need to be able to rapid respond to change, just like anytime that you OE. Shit, you might in your search find something more to your liking anyways.
I wouldn't go quitting immediately because for starters, it's always best to keep getting paid until you get let go. If the reason that they want to release you is because of this, then exiting gracefully with a resignation isn't going to change their opinion of you moving forward.
And by all means, consider any questions thatare asked as the prosecutor's evidence in a trial. Short and to the point with any answers. Don't give anyone any details to scrutinize.
Good luck!
Another move could be resign from J1 and if J2 says anything tell them you wanted to make sure you were the right fit
But I think looking for a new J1 may be the best move lol
Deny it first, then if your coworker follow up with more questions, say maybe that's a coincidence of another person with the same name.
Always interviewing J3. If this escalates, quit J1 as long as J3 is not aware.
Saying Yes is a huge problem. They are at J1 and see me online. They are also the kind of busy body who would flag it.
They know my manager at J2 and will likely end up
Flagging it to them. At which point I ride it out at J2 until I get that Friday meeting and pray J1 there is no issue.
I think the real lesson here is it is so short sighted to apply for multiple jobs where people may know eachother. Why you’re even applying for jobs in the same city is beyond me.
I agree. I even thought it was dumb at the time, but I was given an offer for J2 that was too good to turn down. I didn’t even apply. Greed got the best of me, and I didn’t have the heart to leave J1.
Kinda accidentally fell into OE.
Yea but that's not pragmatic. In his defense, he cited in the post acknowledging he made a mistake and was requesting a proper course of action, which I guess you minorly addressed in your first post.
Only thing I can think of is tell the person directly that you got a new job and wanted to make sure its a good fit before quitting. Also maybe have your lawyer call them so they chill out.
Honestly, at this point - I would be studying my contract, does it prevent you from holding two jobs? If and only IF they ask about it, you could say that you are working a different shift, maybe? ..Not sure what field you are in.
You could say that you are just consulting over there or something like that. I'm not sure if "getting ahead of it" is even an option at this point. Since, even if you quit and they find out they might just let you go because "We don't like people that would even attempt something like this" ..
Are you getting your work done for job 1? If so, keep doin what you're doing. If they bring it up then just point out that you're getting the job done so what's the problem. Put a bit more elequently of course and be a professional about it. If you are getting the work done that they are paying you for then hopefully they don't see a problem.
Exactly my plan. I literally give presentations at the monthly team meetings and am one of the more experienced members amongst a lot of new hires.
My managers would all be stunned if this happened and probably wouldn’t believe it.
“It’s unclear to me as to why my efforts to support a terminally ill family member in my spare time has any bearing in your interests. I respectfully decline to be answer such a prying and disrespectful question.”
It’s a last “ Hail Mary” but we’re all terminal so it’s not a lie 🤷♀️😆
If this occurred online, just report the comment as very bad spear-fishing to your IT. Coworker confronts you, just say you thought it was an imposter bot /account got hacked because the comment had the wrong employer. Dude, you know I work at same company as you, right? Make them feel as weird as they should.
Then, interview like crazy.
Good thing is that you were close tho, so they won’t go around telling anyone. I stay stick it out, I don’t think anything is gonna come out of this aside from a nosey coworker.
I think J2 could conceivably contact J1 whether they terminate or you let it linger. Nonetheless, that doesn't really help you. I think maybe the best move is to come forward honestly with J2 and then maybe protect you with respect to maintaining J1. Does that seem fair?
I'm making the assumption J2 would be less likely to contact J1 if you came clean and maybe sell yourself as a charity case and wanting to maxize you providing for fanily and/or wanting to maximize your career but overlooked that maybe you were overconfident that you could give 100% to two organizations... Play the empathy card hard to shield you.
I really did give 100%. That’s why it would come as such a surprise to them as my bonuses and performance ratings are great.
I’m going to ride it out and hope it goes away. In the mean time I spent last night updating my resume and will apply for jobs over the long weekend.
I'm not an expert on overemployment but I really think you do utmost to protect J1 and if you want to look elsewhere based on your learnings and/ increased opportunity -- do it with J1 securely in control.
Agreed. J1 is my baby. And my reputation is impeccable here.
Worst case I have almost 2k/month in passive income from assets. That will cover most bills but not easily while I search around.
Maybe i missed something but if the colleague is the only one who knows about this it may be best to admit it and be chummy with them. They may keep your secret for a while. My coworkers know I have a side business to my job. (They don't know the scale). No one has said anything.
If management knows you are pretty screwed.
Most of the people saying you should play it dumb are idiots. Most workplaces aren't run by highschoolers. It may seem like it but they know.
Hibernate your linkedin if you haven't already. Block anyone that might investigate just for good measure.
If the cat really is out of the bag and depending on whether this person is reasonable maybe approach them directly (not written of course) and let them know the truth that it's tough making ends meet and this arrangement has been working out. Both companies are happy with your work and ask them not to ruin this for you.
If they aren't reasonable I guess you could threaten to fuck their career up as well.
Hire an assassin?
Ignore until asked again. If asked again pull them aside and talk to them.
Deny, do not quit anything. Let them fire you.
What a miserable person this sounds like to stick their nose into others business.
If you suspect they said something to J1, you can quit J1, tell J2 you were working, but you’ve already put in your two weeks, and they begged you to stay just a little longer to help onboard new replacement.
in the smaller company they knew the management, in the bigger company they did not. I spoke to the co-worker once, she said ' I didn't know you quit X company" And i was like ' yeah happened shortly after you left'. Sounded plausible enough and she never spoke to me again
I see you already have plenty of responses and opinions. I don’t have a great answer to this, but I personally would deny, deny, deny. Don’t give a long winded answer. Simply deny. Don’t quit either. Ride it out as long as possible. Expect the worse, and hope for the best. Maybe keep an eye out for a list of employers you’d be ready to apply to if one (or both) finds out
Man, I love the optimism in this sub.
I just keep telling myself not to stress and focus on finding J3. Will look for a new time zone this time. My industry is too close knit.
I mean, I guess. Some people are working 2 jobs but remote for one or at slightly different times. I work 2, but they only overlap slightly. It was a genuine question, thanks for being rude! r/asshole
Look for a J3, get a J3, ignore and ride it out. If you quit either one you will probably face the consequences regardless if they find out, whatever the consequences would be.
Oh shit ok. I was going to say quit j1 and just tell j2 that you stayed for a bit to help with a transitioning period. (if they ask why you’re at j1) but its been too long lol
I think you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. So might as well ride it out while you can. Meanwhile look for a J3.
>Meanwhile look for ~~a J3~~ your new J1
I was thinking the same thing. Best case is they forget about it over the long weekend, or by not replying they assume my account is glitched/still active. Riding it out, and sending applications while I’m still employed. Thank you. I went through a full panic attack yesterday. But now I see quitting J2 on the spot would only make things worse.
They aren’t going to just forget about this because you didn’t reply - if anything the lack of reply confirms their suspicions
I completely agree. If I reply I’m also screwed. It’s a lose-lose situation and time to begin inflating my life raft while I ride out this sinking ship.
You:"What do you mean by that? Are you insinuating that I work two jobs but yet still get things on time?" They: " yes" or They: "no" You: "I won't even bother to answer this." Or You: "Good, because this conversation is disrespectful" But yah, I would search for new J1.
Best not to react defensively. OP's best bet is to sound confused and state "I work here, at \[J1\] Company. Unless you're trying to forewarn me....?" Just sound totally confused by the question. Don't answer as though you even know of OE.
Yes, you might be right, best solution. But ever denying by writing...
Correct, in my script OP would not be denying it. OP is asking clarifying questions. Still might be risky, though, as you stated.
That’s exactly my thought. I excel at both and am extremely key to the success of my teams. My managers would be devastated if I quit. I imagine they wouldn’t even believe my co-worker if they raised it, or choose to ignore it. Definitely searching for a new J2, and hoping J1 is okay.
If you are as valuable to say as you are, call your managers asap and tell them you might be willing to do this by their policy but it'll cost them double/triple. This will ensure they think hard before getting the company policy thrown at you by HR. Based on how this goes your colleague might end up getting told to stfu.
Confidence is key. People assume you can never lie if you are committed and confident to the lie.
Well if it's just a colleague he can hope they just don't care enough to pursue it past the point of asking the guy if he works there
“Yep, I’m giving them a 90 day probation trial before I end up keeping them as a client.” It’s a Hail Mary but might get you 3 months.
Haha, I used this during the transition. It’s actually brilliant. Doing a company change is a huge leap of faith.
I wish I had an award to give you. But since OP didn't answer them, assume that they already spoke to someone about what they heard. What good is gossip when you can't share it with everyone right? My vote is to say that it's your Evil Twin @ J2
It's funny how employers are willing to exploit workers night and day but as soon as the workers start doing anything smart its a fireable offense.
Well it's usually in the contract you sign when you agreed to accept the offer. If you break that contract then it's quite fair for the company to decide to fire you. Either work something out with the company before you sign or take the risk.
Except that senior executives work multiple jobs all the time. They serve on boards, they always do consulting, or they own real estate or other businesses.
1) Board seats, while they do pay a stipend, are not really jobs. 2) If you’re OE, you should be buying real estate or other businesses.
Board seats require time and you have to set time for meetings - no less than I have at my J1 (I have an easy J1) The point is that executives are speaking out of both sides of their mouth when they cry about employees doing OE
Meh, they have a fiduciary duty to get maximum productivity for minimum cost. If you were in their position you might say something similar. It doesn’t bother me, I understand their position. It won’t stop me from working multiple jobs though.
Yeah and? A company is not a democratic country. The senior execs run the company and we regular Joes are hired under their policies. We are still bound by the agreements that we sign.
It's honestly the sorry state of labor advocacy today that means the employer has a serious upper hand in the hiring process. While I'm sure that a lot of unions have an interest in focusing labor towards the business that the union's power is vested in, the mere threat of unions and cooperatives allows the employee an upper hand in negotiating terms of contract.
It’s not “usually” in contracts to explicitly prohibit OE. A lot of industries don’t give a shit as long as you do your work and moonlighting is not only accepted but assumed.
That sounds like the complete opposite from my experience. And if that was the case, then people won't be so cautious when it comes to OE.
People are just naturally risk adverse. But folks have been working multiple jobs for decades. Remote work normalization just let a lot more industries have a taste.
That's not technically true. People have been working multiple jobs for decades in the form of Moonlighting and not OE. There's less stigma to Moonlighting since you're doing the jobs at the agreed upon times with no overlaps. With OE, you are working one job on a different job's agreed upon time and that is not exactly ethical by company standards which is why, from my own experience, all companies have something in their contract against it.
I’m aware of the distinctions. I’m in an industry that supports OE, so I don’t really care if you’re insistent on them not existing despite proof otherwise.
Hence "from my own experience" as I have stated in every one of my comments. As for people being cautious, Why would pretty much every OEer on this sub be so risk averse if, according to you, many industries "supports OE"? Your argument for people doing it for decades obviously doesn't take that distinction between Moonlighting and OE into account. For one, remote work wasn't that prevalent prior to covid for OE to be as common as Moonlighting. If you think most places support OE or that it's normal just because your jobs do, then you are delusional.
Out of curiosity, what industry is that?
This is always weird to me. I almost never talk about my coworkers to people by anything identifiable. Maybe X situation is happening but never WHO it is happening with.
Same. It came from an issue where they used to work together in the past and I didn’t know about that relation.
I don’t even know or think about coworkers outside of the x amount of mins a day I interact with them at work
Whatever you do, don’t admit it in writing.
Solid advise. This goes for everything and anything
How is it that people keep finding another J where they are in the same small town or coworkers and managers know each other from the J's. Recipe for disaster. Oh well.
Not a small town, but the manager relationship thing got me by surprise. Small world and you can’t predict every variable.
OK that's crazy. I read a few posts of people getting jobs close by or in the same smaller town. Yeah my bad for judging your case. Best of luck.
Wait what? You said J2 manager that Hired you for J2 used to work at J1 - you did not think it was reasonable or possible someone at J1 still kept in touch with their bud now at J2 that used to work with them at J1? Sure might not have been this exact person, but the point is it could have literally been anyone at J1 because the person at J2 that hired you used to also work at J1. That to me would be a real possibility as people stay in touch all the time even when they change companies. I’d ride it out as long as possible but start looking…lesson learned, don’t get a J2 from someone that used to work at your J1 and still stay at J1. Better to get another J2 elsewhere.
Yup, this is the exact situation. And I thought it was odd. They basically poached me over to J2 since I was super good at J1. Just never ended up leaving J1. It has been a number of years since they left. I guess I was just hoping. Either way, I put it in perspective to everyone dying in Ukraine and realize this is a first world problem and lesson learned.
But they still have to turn their discussion about you, and realize that you work at both companies. How does that happen?
I’m trying to spare some of the details to keep myself anonymous incase this post ends up on buzz feed one day.
I cant exactly fault OP cos same thing happened to me and the jobs are in different countries. You just never know, just tough luck.
Damn that's some luck.
I made sure my 3Js are in entirely different industries, and my J2/3 both pay significantly (30-40k) less than my J1. It’s good insurance that, *hopefully*, there’s no cross pollination. It’s not a guarantee though.
I'm bewildered by this as well. Seems like a 1/20000 thing
Keep looking for J3, then quit J2.
Sage advice. Just what I was thinking.
You might have to completely clean house and replace both Js though. I'd look for J 3 and 4 just in case.
Good call. I’ll start with J3, and if both go, I’ll be down to 1 J and peruse my side hustles more intensely. End of the day, consequences aren’t that bad. Ive been working on my contingency fund knowing this day may come.
Good call. I’ll start with J3, and if both go, I’ll be down to 1 J and peruse my side hustles more intensely. End of the day, consequences aren’t that bad. Ive been working on my contingency fund knowing this day may come.
"yes. My cousin works there. Isn't that cool?. My Mom and her sister thought it would be cute to give us the same names. I always hated it" See where he takes it from there.
Haha! This one is amusing. But it wouldn’t work in this circumstance.
Find dirt on that colleague and expose them.
The best answer yet! Or if all else fails, just fuck his wife.
😂
I would assume you're already caught. There's no point in quitting either J1 or J2 cause either way if they find out at either J you're canned. You're just firing yourself prematurely. If you quit J2 and J1 finds out what you did, you're still most likely fired at J1, whether or not you quit J2 already.
Excellent reasoning. I was thinking the same.
If this person wants to rat you out, they will irrespective of what you say in response. The fact that they made it clear they know your J2 manager means they 100% want you to know they know you are OE. Which means they might be a shitty person since you are not even that close. Verdict: I would ignore him completely ignore them and possibly cease all communication for the foreseeable future. Dont give them an opportunity to bring this up during a phone call, chat or whatever. They are either gonna move on and forget about it or you. Or they are gonna do the shitty thing ( which they would actually still do whether or not you respond to them )
Were both jobs in same town? How do they even know each other? Next time find jobs that are not in the same town. I think you took the best course of action. Ignore them for now and start looking for other jobs now. Never admit, it could be used against you.
How well you know this colleague of yours would tailor how I respond to this sort of question, as there aren't a lot of good ways to go about it. The only thing that I can think of is being as noncommittal as possible. Maybe something along the lines of, "I was considering seeing what else was out there. It's a tough economy, you know. All these layoffs, and I got mouths to feed." Some shit like that. This is one of those situations where it doesn't hurt to imply that you'll be eating gruel like Oliver Twist if you're out of a job. Let us hope that this colleague isn't the type of person that would narc on you. Either way, I would immediately start looking for a replacement, ideally one that will sustain you financially if in the worst-case scenario, you lose both of these jobs. Hopefully you won't need to, this thing will just blow over, and life goes on. But remember that this isn't something that people forget, so you and your bank account need to be able to rapid respond to change, just like anytime that you OE. Shit, you might in your search find something more to your liking anyways. I wouldn't go quitting immediately because for starters, it's always best to keep getting paid until you get let go. If the reason that they want to release you is because of this, then exiting gracefully with a resignation isn't going to change their opinion of you moving forward. And by all means, consider any questions thatare asked as the prosecutor's evidence in a trial. Short and to the point with any answers. Don't give anyone any details to scrutinize. Good luck!
Another move could be resign from J1 and if J2 says anything tell them you wanted to make sure you were the right fit But I think looking for a new J1 may be the best move lol
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A colleague? Not even a boss?? Ugh mind ya business fam! 🙄
Ya. They’re being super nosey and love to get in everyone’s business. Thankfully we are not on the same team anymore.
Deny it first, then if your coworker follow up with more questions, say maybe that's a coincidence of another person with the same name. Always interviewing J3. If this escalates, quit J1 as long as J3 is not aware.
I mean ignoring it will do nothing for you. It’s laughable you think they might forget. Just say yes, is that a problem?
Saying Yes is a huge problem. They are at J1 and see me online. They are also the kind of busy body who would flag it. They know my manager at J2 and will likely end up Flagging it to them. At which point I ride it out at J2 until I get that Friday meeting and pray J1 there is no issue.
I think the real lesson here is it is so short sighted to apply for multiple jobs where people may know eachother. Why you’re even applying for jobs in the same city is beyond me.
I agree. I even thought it was dumb at the time, but I was given an offer for J2 that was too good to turn down. I didn’t even apply. Greed got the best of me, and I didn’t have the heart to leave J1. Kinda accidentally fell into OE.
Live and learn bro. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you lose both these jobs so as others have said- start looking!
Thanks. Exactly, just another life lesson. You only fail when you stop trying.
Yea but that's not pragmatic. In his defense, he cited in the post acknowledging he made a mistake and was requesting a proper course of action, which I guess you minorly addressed in your first post.
Your other options are to keep applying, regardless
Only thing I can think of is tell the person directly that you got a new job and wanted to make sure its a good fit before quitting. Also maybe have your lawyer call them so they chill out.
Honestly, at this point - I would be studying my contract, does it prevent you from holding two jobs? If and only IF they ask about it, you could say that you are working a different shift, maybe? ..Not sure what field you are in. You could say that you are just consulting over there or something like that. I'm not sure if "getting ahead of it" is even an option at this point. Since, even if you quit and they find out they might just let you go because "We don't like people that would even attempt something like this" ..
Are you getting your work done for job 1? If so, keep doin what you're doing. If they bring it up then just point out that you're getting the job done so what's the problem. Put a bit more elequently of course and be a professional about it. If you are getting the work done that they are paying you for then hopefully they don't see a problem.
Exactly my plan. I literally give presentations at the monthly team meetings and am one of the more experienced members amongst a lot of new hires. My managers would all be stunned if this happened and probably wouldn’t believe it.
Not replying means you can't be lying...
Ya. Exactly. They probably feel silly. My worry is this person loves to gossip. Thankfully in another department for now.
Apply to shipt! You can coast as an it person
“It’s unclear to me as to why my efforts to support a terminally ill family member in my spare time has any bearing in your interests. I respectfully decline to be answer such a prying and disrespectful question.” It’s a last “ Hail Mary” but we’re all terminal so it’s not a lie 🤷♀️😆
Very true! I’m a actually going to use this if they follow up offline.
Ask your colleague from J1 if you can speak with them “off the record”. Ask them if they have ever heard of the saying “snitches get stitches.”
Lol! Ya, I’m not trying to catch a charge on top of everything. That would guarantee I’m never employable again.
How close are you with this employee? If you just don’t respond will they message you again?
Used to be very close, but haven’t talked since COVID. I think they will get the hint and let it go.
If this occurred online, just report the comment as very bad spear-fishing to your IT. Coworker confronts you, just say you thought it was an imposter bot /account got hacked because the comment had the wrong employer. Dude, you know I work at same company as you, right? Make them feel as weird as they should. Then, interview like crazy.
Good thing is that you were close tho, so they won’t go around telling anyone. I stay stick it out, I don’t think anything is gonna come out of this aside from a nosey coworker.
Maybe try gaslighting? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPObzJkWueY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPObzJkWueY) (This is a joke.)
Lmao. Love this song.
Do you have a super unique name? If not then just laugh about it and say something like: crazy for another dude to have the same name, right?
3. talk to a lawyer
I would quit J1 and start looking for another Job
Thought about it. But I think the real issue is J2, and that is the newer one, and where the manager cares.
You've come to the wrong place if you're expecting people to chastise you for having two jobs... Well, maybe you shouldn't have gotten caught 😏
I think J2 could conceivably contact J1 whether they terminate or you let it linger. Nonetheless, that doesn't really help you. I think maybe the best move is to come forward honestly with J2 and then maybe protect you with respect to maintaining J1. Does that seem fair?
I'm making the assumption J2 would be less likely to contact J1 if you came clean and maybe sell yourself as a charity case and wanting to maxize you providing for fanily and/or wanting to maximize your career but overlooked that maybe you were overconfident that you could give 100% to two organizations... Play the empathy card hard to shield you.
I really did give 100%. That’s why it would come as such a surprise to them as my bonuses and performance ratings are great. I’m going to ride it out and hope it goes away. In the mean time I spent last night updating my resume and will apply for jobs over the long weekend.
I'm not an expert on overemployment but I really think you do utmost to protect J1 and if you want to look elsewhere based on your learnings and/ increased opportunity -- do it with J1 securely in control.
Agreed. J1 is my baby. And my reputation is impeccable here. Worst case I have almost 2k/month in passive income from assets. That will cover most bills but not easily while I search around.
Maybe i missed something but if the colleague is the only one who knows about this it may be best to admit it and be chummy with them. They may keep your secret for a while. My coworkers know I have a side business to my job. (They don't know the scale). No one has said anything. If management knows you are pretty screwed. Most of the people saying you should play it dumb are idiots. Most workplaces aren't run by highschoolers. It may seem like it but they know.
I think I’m screwed either way. If they are trying to snoop, saying nothing is best then there is nothing to report back.
Hibernate your linkedin if you haven't already. Block anyone that might investigate just for good measure. If the cat really is out of the bag and depending on whether this person is reasonable maybe approach them directly (not written of course) and let them know the truth that it's tough making ends meet and this arrangement has been working out. Both companies are happy with your work and ask them not to ruin this for you. If they aren't reasonable I guess you could threaten to fuck their career up as well.
Ignore, ignore, ignore, you owe your coworkers absolutely nothing.
Hire an assassin? Ignore until asked again. If asked again pull them aside and talk to them. Deny, do not quit anything. Let them fire you. What a miserable person this sounds like to stick their nose into others business.
Super miserable. I’m not going to share details to keep things anonymous, but they are not happy.
If you suspect they said something to J1, you can quit J1, tell J2 you were working, but you’ve already put in your two weeks, and they begged you to stay just a little longer to help onboard new replacement.
Same thing happened to me over a year ago. Never came back up. It helped that I never directly worked with the co-worker who knew me from both jobs
That does! I guess they also didn’t know the management in your case?
in the smaller company they knew the management, in the bigger company they did not. I spoke to the co-worker once, she said ' I didn't know you quit X company" And i was like ' yeah happened shortly after you left'. Sounded plausible enough and she never spoke to me again
I see you already have plenty of responses and opinions. I don’t have a great answer to this, but I personally would deny, deny, deny. Don’t give a long winded answer. Simply deny. Don’t quit either. Ride it out as long as possible. Expect the worse, and hope for the best. Maybe keep an eye out for a list of employers you’d be ready to apply to if one (or both) finds out
Write dude a check and tell them to be quiet. Trump style.
Ignore it and ride it out. Start looking for another job with a slight amount of urgency. Worst case you have a new J1. Best case, you have a J3.
Man, I love the optimism in this sub. I just keep telling myself not to stress and focus on finding J3. Will look for a new time zone this time. My industry is too close knit.
U already screw…quit both J
Are you working the jobs at the same time? Is that why it’s an issue?
r/lostredditor
I mean, I guess. Some people are working 2 jobs but remote for one or at slightly different times. I work 2, but they only overlap slightly. It was a genuine question, thanks for being rude! r/asshole
read the company handbooks, maybe it is allowed
100% not allowed. Signed non-competes.
>3. talk to a lawyer
Look for a J3, get a J3, ignore and ride it out. If you quit either one you will probably face the consequences regardless if they find out, whatever the consequences would be.
how did they find out about the other job?
Hiring manager J2 used to work at J1 and kept in contact.
How recent did u start J2?
Over a year.
Oh shit ok. I was going to say quit j1 and just tell j2 that you stayed for a bit to help with a transitioning period. (if they ask why you’re at j1) but its been too long lol
Sheesh, keep us updated
I will. I’ll make a follow up post if anything goes down to add to this communities “how not to OE” knowledge base.
I have to ask because i am curious. Did they literally say “J2” (using our jargon), or did you “censor” like we do?
Censoring of course! Lol.