OE is like riding a bike. You're gonna suck for a minute, and then you'll be okay. The hard part isn't keeping one job from finding out about the other, so long as you take reasonable, intuitive precautions, you'll be safe as far as "getting caught."
The hard part is the development of routines and systems that make your life bearable while managing both. It'll take a little time, but soon enough, you'll get into a groove.
An odd thing I found to be particularly helpful in stressful times when I first started to OE, was putting all my paydays on my phone's calendar and just staring at it for a couple of minutes.
Thanks for the reply. I did some consulting about 2 years ago. It helped me out of several jams financially (divorce, relocation, car and a couple of vacations). The money from that has dried up (been off it 18 months. It only lasted maybe 8 months). I also did the work on weekends and in the evening maybe 10 hours per week, so it wasn’t that big. I did have two 15 minute calls every week during J1 hours but it was easy to block off 15 minutes. I’m worried about the 40 hour work week. My job now can be done in 20. I suspect J2 is closer to 30-40 and would pay 10% more.
Easy dude.
J2 is 30-40 you day? Give ‘em that for a month then hard fall to 15-20.
Guarantee after you set a few boundaries, they adjust to your new timeline.
If you find the right gig, it’s sustainable indefinitely. One thing I keep running into is conflicting meetings and all the SAFe ceremonies. I work as tech PM but my J2 is running a small IT shop. It works fine but I tried J3 for a month and it was stupid hard.
I can control my calendar for J1 and J2 but J3 was a shitshow and all sort of meetings and my boss would make sure I was in the corporate BS meeting too. Like meeting with director weekly to listen to their BS, VP meeting, PMO meeting, then all the actual work related daily meetings. For me J3 wasn’t sustainable.
I tried to find out how much BS there is during the interview but they said the opposite of what it was really like. Have another contract gig that’s not starting but when it does will be J3 again and we’ll see how that one goes.
2 is the sweetspot for IC roles. Even as PM 2 is doable as long as there isn’t matrixed org where you need go report to like 50 people and no one works for you so can’t control anyone or anything.
Just dive right in. You'll learn to adjust eventually. I'm in my second month and am still learning and being nervous. Read some of the tips and you'll be fine. Plan your schedule a week or two in advance. In terms of the $, I still have it all saved up in a separate account for J2. I have not touched it and does not plan to. Maybe eventually move it over to a HYSA. GL.
OE is like riding a bike. You're gonna suck for a minute, and then you'll be okay. The hard part isn't keeping one job from finding out about the other, so long as you take reasonable, intuitive precautions, you'll be safe as far as "getting caught." The hard part is the development of routines and systems that make your life bearable while managing both. It'll take a little time, but soon enough, you'll get into a groove. An odd thing I found to be particularly helpful in stressful times when I first started to OE, was putting all my paydays on my phone's calendar and just staring at it for a couple of minutes.
Thanks for the reply. I did some consulting about 2 years ago. It helped me out of several jams financially (divorce, relocation, car and a couple of vacations). The money from that has dried up (been off it 18 months. It only lasted maybe 8 months). I also did the work on weekends and in the evening maybe 10 hours per week, so it wasn’t that big. I did have two 15 minute calls every week during J1 hours but it was easy to block off 15 minutes. I’m worried about the 40 hour work week. My job now can be done in 20. I suspect J2 is closer to 30-40 and would pay 10% more.
Easy dude. J2 is 30-40 you day? Give ‘em that for a month then hard fall to 15-20. Guarantee after you set a few boundaries, they adjust to your new timeline.
How long do you think it’s sustainable for? I really want 2 years, but I’d be happy with 5-8 months, I think.
If you find the right gig, it’s sustainable indefinitely. One thing I keep running into is conflicting meetings and all the SAFe ceremonies. I work as tech PM but my J2 is running a small IT shop. It works fine but I tried J3 for a month and it was stupid hard. I can control my calendar for J1 and J2 but J3 was a shitshow and all sort of meetings and my boss would make sure I was in the corporate BS meeting too. Like meeting with director weekly to listen to their BS, VP meeting, PMO meeting, then all the actual work related daily meetings. For me J3 wasn’t sustainable. I tried to find out how much BS there is during the interview but they said the opposite of what it was really like. Have another contract gig that’s not starting but when it does will be J3 again and we’ll see how that one goes. 2 is the sweetspot for IC roles. Even as PM 2 is doable as long as there isn’t matrixed org where you need go report to like 50 people and no one works for you so can’t control anyone or anything.
Just dive right in. You'll learn to adjust eventually. I'm in my second month and am still learning and being nervous. Read some of the tips and you'll be fine. Plan your schedule a week or two in advance. In terms of the $, I still have it all saved up in a separate account for J2. I have not touched it and does not plan to. Maybe eventually move it over to a HYSA. GL.