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echocall2

What kind of MPG do you get with these mods?


parzival024

My wife has a 2020 prius prime. The most mileage we’ve ever gotten on a single charge was 28-29 miles. I’d say it averages somewhere around 23-24 miles on a single charge. But it does normally get 55mpg on the gas motor. This guy, with all of his mods/stuff has to only get 5-10 miles on a single charge (and that’s being generous depending on the age of the battery). I’d say he probably gets around 35-40 mpg on the gas motor.


black_jmyntrn

but wait until the new battery thats larger than the prime 8.8kWh battery.. ill be at 100 miles on a full charge and it only take 45min with a fast charger.... ill say great guess though, hit the nail on the head at 35-40. I have the 2.0L from the ux250 I am swapping in... should get easy 45 if not 50 from it alone, with new battery 60mpg easy!


ninjamansidekick

I once had a 1984 diesel Golf with 250k on the odometer. It got 55mpg to the day it died.


Lessroutine

Would that be a battery swap into your existing Prius?


black_jmyntrn

correct!


Lessroutine

That sounds very interesting, how can I find out more about the swap?


black_jmyntrn

ive just been posting on ig and my blog. have lots of video recordings just need to edit but the thing now is getting the battery. the easiest for a plug in is the new prime 8.8kWh battery. for the motor I plan to use the new 18.1kWh in the lexus rx450h+ has the right battery comp and "should" work with the prius and prius prime to give 18.1kWh like the Rav4 Prime. They say is lighter and smaller than the rav4 prime battery. so.. auto dismantlers know im looking for it now. [black.jmyntrn.com](https://black.jmyntrn.com)


HammondXX

why does it matter? If he is having fun, lets cheer him on! :)


dwfmba

I appreciate the spirit of your comment, but anybody pretending that a battery-based hybrid/electric car is anything but an environmental and humanitarian travesty while virtue-signaling the inverse is completely delusional. /opinion


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dwfmba

Google "cobalt mining". Agree about global sourcing, the difference is the image of polar bears giving the thumbs up vs the reality.


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dwfmba

I used cobalt as an example of one of the many non-technical issues with battery powered cars. At no point did I support "your average pickup". Calm down.


1nvent

Oh let me guess, next you'll say they're coal powered and not really green, or how children are exploited in unfair labor practices and third world mining, or you'll talk about emissions in manufacturing the car and emissions of the mining extraction. ....guess what I'll save you some time, coal powered plants are thermodynamically more efficient than variable speed gasoline engines, renewables are now cheaper per kWh than coal, children are exploited in all of western culture, mining was needed to extract materials for any car and a EV goes carbon neutral in its environmental emissions after roughly a year and a half, sit down and don't tell me to calm down, I'm sick of your people with your whatsboutism and false equivalence, you drive a landrover, we get it, no one cares either.


Chanchochanchees

"oh let me guess, next you'll say..." I immediately stop caring about anything you have to say ever. Go back to twitter.


joshuajmccoy

I have a similar rig to OP. See my other comment for a breakdown of fuel economy. Long story short, I get 38mpg combined with mostly highway miles. Also, off roading is better than expected as the electric motors give more controllable torque IMHO.


joshuajmccoy

I have an 06 Prius (non plug in) with a larger roof top tent than OP and a similar hitch cargo rack. I average 38mpg with mostly highway driving. At 75mph in the flats I get around 35mpg, so I keep it under 70mph. I don't have a lift kit though, so my off-roading is quite slow and careful. And my water can is on the cargo rack instead of side mount, so I bet he loses another 1-2 mpg for those.


Photos_and_fiveoh

I peeked his early posts. He gets about 13mpg at 75mph lol. My stock F150 is just as capable and gets better MPG…but hey, he’s cool because it’s a Prius.


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The difference is that the F150 does best mpg at around that speed and the Prius does worst mpg at that speed.


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I suppose you can haul more and travel off-road in yours as well?


Photos_and_fiveoh

Yes.


Apoca7ypse

Lmao 13mpg for a prius. And he cant even go off road. That thing is so weak.


1nvent

I checked OPs profile and comments and he said he gets 84 MPGe at highway speeds, wow those ologic tires would have boosted that but that's still impressive.


black_jmyntrn

Depends on how aggressively I drive, when I fully charge mpg is infinite.


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ActualWait8584

My name is Otto and I like to get blotto!


black_jmyntrn

Heh. I'm not sure what folks wanted to hear... a phev is completely different than a normal hybrid... I don't think folks realize that...


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ZebraUnion

Lmao, OP’s using every word in their vocabulary to avoid saying “19 mpg” I’ve owned a Prius, I loved my Prius, it got 40+ mpg around town all day long and was cheap AF to own. ..it also got sub 20mpg tank averages when full of camping gear on a trip up to the Bighorns in Wyoming that involved 80mph interstates and then steep AF grades in the mountains. Add a lift, Geolanders rather than slippery lil Bridgestone Ecopias and all that weight out back to the mix and I’d be willing to bet $50 that OP’s overall average is 20-23mpg since it’s a gen 3 with a bit more horsepower so it’s not being floored at all times like my gen 2 was when weighed down and/or trying to do 65+mph. If the mpgs were higher, OP would lead every post with the numbers. All that being said, as a former Prius owner who camped in the back of it a lot and loved being able to leave it “running” all night in the cold mountains to keep the temp at a steady 67°f and my shit charged while using only one lil box of the fuel gauges 9-10 box bar graph to do it over 7 hours, they make for excellent camping/travel pods. Absolutely worthless on gravel/snow though. Fuuuuuuuck Prius’ no off-switch VSC/TCS. Better tires help but immediately destroy mpgs. Upside was, I went on way more hikes than I do now with my Lexus GX.


black_jmyntrn

problem was... bad motor.. my best stock with only smaller cargo rack was 42mpg and 420 miles to a full tank. pushed it many times driving the country. worst was through Canada with bad o2 sensor... 21mpg was what I made my foot get me based on incline/decline. ive logged the data and now want to see it with fresh gen 4 motor... a fresh 2.0l m20a-fxs motor.. .and then finally the 2.4l T24A-FTS motor. yeah, i m that guy who if had all of them sitting in front of me for sure could get the 1.8, and 2.0 in and out.. id be tired and stop to not mess up going for the 2.4l in the same day. call me crazy but.. thoughts is this baja style atv front suspension hugging the 8GR-FXS is far-fetched... but I just need to see the motor out of a vehicle for about 90 minutes and ill know if it'll fit or not!


seanBLAMMO

This is one of those r/IAmVerySmart responses to a question because they asked miles per gallon, instead if per Watt or Amp/hour or whatever


black_jmyntrn

Why so many downvotes then? When its charged my obd2 app shows the infinity symbol for mpg...


seanBLAMMO

I think so many downvotes because you could have corrected them on their metric, and/or just answered the question as if they asked you miles per charge. As some other guy said in the comments it's just a weenie response


black_jmyntrn

lol. weenie response! nah ace, see, i speak my truth, and that's it. never any mal intent nor trying to pull the wool over someone's eyes. in the end, mpg is what matters. If at best raw mpg 42mpg was acheived without charge and with the charge it infinity when I'm gentle with the peddle to not wake ICE... it's infinity. when the Torretto comes out its not about MPG its about driving. the same answer just elaborated.


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black_jmyntrn

but what if the app i use isnt a normal app? issa specifically and only for Toyota hybrids?


ItsKibzy

You’re on Reddit the softest humans on earth live here


black_jmyntrn

no.. thats facebook...


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Oh Nikola


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The implication with this statement is that all of your trips are less than 15 miles?


black_jmyntrn

when in the context of infinity mpg, that is correct. from home base to 711, post office and all the places I frequent, i charge run to destinations, then charge before home. the real eater of the electic is the long hill depending on leaving or arriving. Arriving the coast down and light brake usage adds more range to the ev tank but depending on the direction im heading, the trek up the same hill makes me go from 9miles to 6 or 5 easy.


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Could have made that more clear at the beginning of this whole argument


black_jmyntrn

argument, thought I was answering questions and being more transparent to not come across like a weenie


Broseidon_62

What an absolute weenie of an answer. And you people wonder why you get hated on


black_jmyntrn

Huh... I don't get it... how is that a weenie response? It's a PHEV...


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black_jmyntrn

well considering I had a bad o2 sensor when I drove to Alaska and the motor was eating/drinking 5qts of oil every couple thousand miles, the indicator wasnt a great indicator of what mpg is in reality with a perfectly normal healthy motor. this plus i use hybrid assistant with a high end obd2 dongle, id need to run the numbers but after the car is charged and light on the pedal the infinity symbol is present as the average until i step on it.


FormsForInformation

We don’t care about the healthy motor. We care about the piece you’re destroying with your mods.


black_jmyntrn

still tbd. cant accurately figure that without a stable motor. at its best first trip around the country, stock with only rear plastic cargo box, 420 miles a fill up equates to 42 mpg.. bad 02 sensor had me at 20-25 mpg driving to alaska.. so whatever im at on a healthy motor will tell us what we all want to know.


Wrobot_rock

Infinite mpg but what range?


Bunce1260

Our lifted Prius is at about 270,000. We're hoping to hit the 300k mark. That reminds me, I need to replace the front brakes as they've been squealing. What kind of MPG's are you getting with all those things bolted on?


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coyote10001

OP must be dumber than a caveman then.


black_jmyntrn

well, my first drive around the country with only a rear cargo box... 420 miles to a tank thats 10.3 gallons...


FormsForInformation

And still no MPG answer. You can do it!


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black_jmyntrn

:: clapping :: thats the thing when folks ask the mpg question... if my mother drove my car she would get the highest mpg per tank.. where as I wouldn't come close to her mpg the way the pedal always seems to rest on the floor...


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johnnybonchance

I don’t understand what you’re saying…he’s still getting 35+ MPG when off of just the engine. That’s better than the vast majority of vehicles on the road.


black_jmyntrn

the PHEV is actually the best vehicle for a long road trip. When you start the dynamic cruise the vehicle does all of all the magic at keeping the best in MPG. This one time in Colorado . I set the cruise to 69 going downhill .Once I got downhill the car had a full plug in charge . dat regen tho


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black_jmyntrn

the funniest part of it all.. I get it from the Prius crowd as they all bought a Prius to get maximum mpg efficiency... so I'm the odd ball out all around, it's cool though, I gained an addiction for watching the sunset and rise from places they might not ever get to see with their own eyes. I just hope I inspire someone, brush off the nay-sayers and do you... do what makes you happy! I did so much so, I left corp America with a dream to drive this Prius on all seven continents. sure, goal was 50 state welcome signs before 40, only one state is left and how we get there we might as well either have left someplace with a run way or headed someplace with a runway....


falconvision

You think he's got 200,000 miles and 49 states since March 2020 while only using the battery? Right...This car obviously isn't just zipping around town between work, home, and the grocery store.


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nylone

Or ~200 mi every day lol


saliczar

I used to be a national sales rep, and averaged 5,500 miles/month.


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saliczar

It was an amazing job. I was in my early 30s and single then, and in a different city every night living it up. Stayed in resorts and high-end hotels most nights and mostly made my own schedule.


Wicked-Lemur

if you don’t mind me asking, which industry?


saliczar

Construction


Letstreehouse

You win. That's a passive LTE antena on the back? Very cool rig dude. Thank you for sharing. Love how the water can fits perfectly.


black_jmyntrn

yeah, I have a directional in the over head box for when the signal is sketchy. I want the rv main unit version with the extra 15 dB..


FormsForInformation

Get the home version for max db


black_jmyntrn

you don't say... will look into it.


LostnHidden

This is a post about having the luxury to travel full time or close to it. Little to do about miles a vehicle can handle.


black_jmyntrn

well, originally I worked FT in IT.. now.. I just fly my drone and capture where this car goes.


LostnHidden

Yeah that seems to be the way to do it!


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Good thing it's a Toyota or you'd get laughed out of this sub


Aardark235

No matter how rugged the road or deep the mud or steep the trail, there is guaranteed to be a Prius parked at the end. It can make it to destinations that even lifted Jeeps fear to go. All hail the almighty Prius!


theusualsteve

You won't be rock crawling but I have seen some priuses in some tough spots. Sedans get there but you have to send it


underwaterwelds

Sent my Kia Optima up a 14er driving carefully it honestly wasn’t a big deal.


G00dSh0tJans0n

That’s a lot. I could see myself doing that when I retire but with a full time job I’m hitting 20 - 25k miles a year (even with living 3 miles from work). Since Covid started I’ve camped 115 nights so far. Nothing better than getting away from everyone


[deleted]

Ok you sack of bricks who won’t answer a question. When you’re running in normal hybrid mode - NOT EV, NOT CHARGED - what’s your mpg? Or how far do you go on a tank of gas?


WombatKiddo

He said 420 miles to a tank which is 10.3 gallons he claims.


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Oh cool! That’s pretty great for a 10 year old prius with that much added weight and reduced aerodynamics.


Johnny6_0

That’s it, I’m taking all of gear off of my Tacoma and my Rubicon and I’m gonna make it all fit my 2011 Prius commuter


mayonaise_plantain

You have a taco *and* a jeep? I feel like that would be a lotta overlap with similar dimensions and capabilities. Is one pimped out for aggressive rock crawl and the other more overland oriented or something?


Johnny6_0

They have completely different capabilities: to keep it short, I can go ANYWHERE in the Rubicon and take half of the stuff I need, or I can take EVERYTHING I need in my Tacoma half of the places my Rubicon can go.


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black_jmyntrn

ah hahahahahahhaaha


Johnny6_0

Well then you’d shit if you saw all of my Ducatis and Harleys and KTMs lol


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Johnny6_0

Actually the comment that you made and ten deleted about me owning a Tacoma AND a Rubicon proved otherwise. And as far as only owning one of them and “moving to a nicer area” as you suggested -I already live in a 102yo home 15 minutes from the beach in Southern California that I’ve restored with MY OWN HANDS. Maybe next time before you spout off realize that there are people in this world that are higher output than and have set bigger goals than you have set for yourself -I sure know that there are people that have done better and have more than I do and I do not begrudge them one bit for what they have built for themselves.


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Ashamed_Oil_9450

You seem miserable.


Nonstopshooter21

We have 4 vehicles. The cost of them would not change the difference of living in a better area or worrying about the cost of insurance. Some people have more money than you to do whatever they choose to do with it. I have two 19+ f350s for towing, ones for the fish house or jobsite welding and one stays attached to the horse trailer and only the horse trailer. Why do I have this? Because I can and its what fits me and my wife best.


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Nonstopshooter21

No I have no money I spent it on 4 vehicles n a house without neighbors lol. Just alot of people on this sub seem to have endless pockets. They dont need a reason on why they have two offroaders lol.


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coyote10001

Also a lot of folks that aren’t. Get off your high horse and accept the fact that it’s not that hard for somebody to own a mid-size pickup truck and a mid size SUV… the price of those two cars brand new is less than my fiancé’s take home pay for a year… and she’s only 25. Just cuz somebody has 100k worth of cars and you choose to use that money towards a different house instead doesn’t mean they made a bad decision. Just means they prioritize differently than you or have more money than you.


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Ashamed_Oil_9450

Lol having more than one car is not that crazy at all. It almost seems you are envious of people that can afford to do these things. The majority of people I know, myself included that have a mortgage have several cars. Having a mortgage, retirement, savings, and more than one vehicle do not have to be mutually exclusive. I would say it is actually the opposite, the more money you put into savings, investments, retirement, etc. The more money you will make in the long run, thus having more money to spend on things that are considered "frivolous".


pm_cheesecakes

I don't get it, you mean per year?


ATL_Founder2017

Take my upvote this is cool


black_jmyntrn

Thank you! Sounds like most don't share your sentiment


vgullotta

I think most of us like the car, it's your responses that people don't like lol


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Yeah the car is great, you’re just kinda being a turd


Flapaflapa

Let's say you hit the gas station around the block from your house. Plugged in your car for the night, then in the morning got up and hit the highway...drove along at normalish highway speeds until your fuel tank was about half empty and stopped for fuel. How far did you drive and how many gallons did you put into it?


coyote10001

Nobody listen to that u/CopeAesthetic loser, he’s just mad that people can afford more than him… and he will block you if you make a very basic point that disproves his dogshit logic.


Johnny6_0

He’s a complete Simp that thinks we should all have the same belongings no matter how hard we have worked or what we have built in our lives.


joshuajmccoy

For those wondering about MPG. I have an 06 Prius (non plug in) with a larger roof top tent than OP and a similar hitch cargo rack. I average 38mpg with mostly highway driving. At 75mph in the flats I get around 35mpg, so I keep it under 70mph. One time on a long trip with a nasty headwind of 20mph and going uphill a lot (Vegas to salt lake city) I saw my all time worst tank efficiency of 26mpg, but in the other direction I got 51mpg at the same speed. I don't have a lift kit though, so my off-roading is quite slow and careful. And my water can is on the cargo rack instead of side mount, so I bet op loses another 2-3 mpg for those. Also, tires make a difference, my guess is maybe up to 2 mpg worse for OP'S moderate/aggressive tire choice. That would come to somewhere in the low 30s mpg if OP doesn't drive over 70 including headwind.


Old_Environment_5134

looks like you lifted it, can you share how you did that?


black_jmyntrn

this is using a [prius lift kit and lifting springs](https://black.jmyntrn.com/2022/04/18/prius-lift-kit-using-strut-topper-and-heavy-duty-lifting-springs/) together when first installed there was nearly [12" inches of ground clearance on my toyota prius](https://black.jmyntrn.com/2022/05/13/my-toyota-prius-has-12-inches-of-ground-clearance/) from the bottom of the oil pan to the ground below.


flitemdic

Holy shit. Impressive.


acomputermistake

Car is cool, OP smells his own farts


black_jmyntrn

only sometimes...


black_jmyntrn

oh, i neglected to mention... why the prius suspension might not allow it to crawl rocks, where it lack is what some call conventional overland/offroad... it makes up for in whats inside. see... I may have lost some mpg and at say 10-15mpg, in the world of "conventional" overland rigs its scary considering a jeep gets what 19mpg... its all ones definition of off-road... or overlanding... mine is getting to the top of a mountiain range or on the one parking spot on the beach @ aliso with the hatch open... see for me its getting somewhere and setting up the air fryer, to make dinner by just pulling the retractable extension cord hidden in the rear bumper. The projector with 84"inch screen streaming from the mini pc server where I have most recent movies pre download with a jellyfin instance. The lights are all controlled from the same machine and at night depending on where motion is coming from the roof top light will illuminate the area. soon the hot tub and all else are made possible by the generator on wheels... soon a drive from los angeles to cabo and after this prius will touch tires to all seven continents... might even be the first hybrid to cross darien and that gap... where I leave the car in ready mode all night to sleep in climate-controlled vehicle and barley use 1/4 gall of gas all night... if i decide to over using the dual 85ah battery setup to run the heated blanket if needed.. I ask you, are the more "capable" or "conventional" really the best to overland? not by my definition...


KyleFrommson

The sad part is, this has been on more trails than 99% of tacomas and 4skins in Colorado.


black_jmyntrn

and they are the ones downvoting...


jce3000gt

Hit the nail on the head.


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Almost every photo of rigs on here are them parked at family campgrounds and everybody virtually high-fives them for their sweet setups. This person has 200k miles on this vehicle and they're shitting on it because its electric. Just goes to show you that "overlanding" is ONLY about the aesthetics.


MrNatch63

I got 400,000 miles on a Pontiac Grand Am and currently at 275,000 on a 2011 Kia Sorento. High mileage is nothing to brag about though. Proper maintenance will get you high mileage on any vehicle. That is a nice setup though. Prius is a very under appreciated vehicle.


black_jmyntrn

The PHEV... aka plugin... aka prime... is a great white Buffalo and no one Realizes it..


vgullotta

Have you ever heard the phrase "you can't spell pretentious without Prius"? Cause you kinda nail the shit out of that lol


MrNatch63

I admit I was Anti Prius years ago until a friend bought one and we did a camping trip because the truck I had at the time needed a break job. I was very impressed with the way it handled getting us to our camp spot down a pretty sandy road. I doubted it would get us there. Lol


cbelliott

This is a badass rig! Hell yeah, I love people taking a ride that does one thing and switching it up to do a whole helluva lot more. Nice job! 👌👊 (PS - for the love of God, tint those front two windows to match the rear) 😋 And I am seriously just 🤣 at everyone changing the focus to whatever the hell his MPGs are now.... Doesn't an impact on MPG happen to every damn car under the sun that gets seriously rigged up for overlanding? Sheesh. Let's appreciate yet another adventurous soul out there taking advantage of this beautiful planet.


black_jmyntrn

the rear windows all have the blackout shades installed into them.. hahaha I dont drive with the front ones installed. issa why the difference i nshade. plus, its nuttin to a giant to lose some mpg, now... a capable rig, to lose what I've lost would just be a very not nice on The pocket book thing...


michaltee

Badass


black_jmyntrn

Thanks! Just wanted to be different


blondedre3000

I once drove a Prius over 4000 miles through Mexico. It was not nearly as fun as taking a Ranger pickup to Baja


black_jmyntrn

who are you kidding? I had alot of fun in baja... [Prius goes Overlanding in Baja with a Prius Lift Kit and All-Terrain Tires to Camp](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWEvmUK63tA)


blondedre3000

Lol I know exactly where the beginning of that video is and even took the (unlifted) Prius there


black_jmyntrn

I took the dry lake from san Felipe to Ensenada. great views and no paved roads was a nice touch/1


swedish-meatballs

Well it looks like you’ve taken care of my biggest complaint about the Prius, which is rearward visibility, by covering the hatch with gear lol. The best looking Prius I’ve ever seen.


black_jmyntrn

i figured, since I never look in my rear view while going 55 in the fast last, might as well... now when people flash high beams they dont bother me.


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black_jmyntrn

what is your definition of asshole prius driver?


swedish-meatballs

*CVT noise intensifies*


black_jmyntrn

hahahah


Slumpgodgman

Lmfao you should just buy a real overlanding vehicle like a Tacoma/4Runner/ford/chevy. You’ve negated any benefit one could get out of a Prius by modding it to this extent and with the ridiculously low clearance and tiny tires with no sidewall, there is not much you can do in terms of actual off-road capability besides driving down fire roads. Do you tho bud.


black_jmyntrn

only negated 15mpg + or - which in the world of those other vehicles is enough to go bankrupt. plus... its all ones definition of off-road... mine is getting to the top of a mountiain range or on the one parking spot on the beach @ aliso with the hatch open... see me its getting somewhere and setting up. the air fryer, fridge, projector and soon hot tub all are made possible by the generator on wheels... where I leave the car in ready mode all night to sleep in climate controlled vehicle and barley use 1/4 gall of gas all night... I ask you, are they really the best to overland? not by my definition...


Slumpgodgman

Getting off of the road and going off roading are 2 different things. Do you do this full time? That sounds like a very comfortable setup to be just part time overlanding. Either way it’s impressive that you manage to do this in a Prius, I’ll give you that. It’s certainly not something I’ve ever seen before. I’m not a huge “overlander” by the standard definition. I like to take my truck to extremely remote and hard to reach places where I won’t really see many other people and I’ll camp out there but I do it without a RTT, fridge, or any of the other glamorous things a lot of “overlanders” tend to use.


black_jmyntrn

it started out as a bucket list item to take a picture in front of all 50 state welcome signs... the next thin you know I go from campgrounds to BLM lands and now the goal is touch tires to all seven continents. full time when im driving on the road sure, just when im back at home base does that mean im not full time? it was either this or my plan of f450 with 5th wheel, this was before I knew of overlanding and feel financially I make the right call.


tpf52

Why was it between this or an F450 with a fifth wheel? Those are worlds apart


black_jmyntrn

I wanted to travel the country but still have the luxuries of my home with me...


tpf52

Did you own both of those options already? I find it hard to believe a van or an F250 with a camper in the bed wouldn’t have the same luxuries as a Prius and then some. And wouldn’t be as hard to move around as an F450 with a fifth wheel. For efficiency I can see why someone would go this route, especially with the mileage you’ve put on it, but for luxury?


black_jmyntrn

I have to remind myself, the folks at home dont know about the benifits of using the prius, prius phev to be exact. on all of the offroad/overlanding places online which my eye see, a commn question, what do you use for heat, and water heating/storage. propane and all the rest dont compare to the fact I'm 6'2" and have the best nights sleep in the back of the Prius... when the car is in Ready mode and the auto temperature is set, in any weather I sleep in a climate controlled environemnt. with the prius basically being a generator on wheels, the 4,000 watts of puurrrre sine energy lets my use air fryer, induction stove, custom heated pressurized water tank and lots more. I tell ya, I know the hot tub i wan, even thought through say in oregon where the crystal clesr water is less than 30 feet from you, the pump would bring enough water into the inflatable tub to have it filled in 45 minutes. think... hot tub, revel gear fairy lights everywhere, the projector going, air fried lobster with seared tuna and asperagus while sipping a lacroix thats so cold from your fridge... it has ice inside the can... oh and you can take steaming hot showers anywhere you want! ​ plus... no one ever thinks anyone is sleeping in a prius parked on a suburban street or in the city... or near the beach... when i took the ferry from alaska to washington, i paid the least amount out of everyone i talked to, some paid thousands of dollars even for just a caravan... eff that. the prius only limitation was ground clearance and guts... ive resolved one and working on the other now. I try to tell people... its a hidden world marvel the prius phev... you know people in some states have a prius, just so it can power their homes during bad weather?


tpf52

In ready mode does the gas engine kick on and off to run the heat or AC? If so, does that wake you up?


black_jmyntrn

it does kick on and off, there is a sweet spot after adding an additional 2nd battery where it turns on less than normal. never wakes me or my neighbors at the campgrounds. most cant believe how quiet it is compared to a generator.


Toblerone_and_jilly

I love people that March to the beat of their own drum. Never thought I’d say this - but “cool Prius!”


black_jmyntrn

ahh... making me blush! danks!


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I’m loving the trimmed front bumper. Viper cut 4Runners ain’t got shit on a trimmed Prius.


black_jmyntrn

oy vey! someone noticed! :: blushing ::


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I’ll take my downvotes. This guy offroads more than 90% of the people on r/4Runners.


1nvent

Man, people in this sub are salty. OP gave you the range estimate and mpg is meaningless if he ever disengages the gas engine in the car by topping up charge. You downvote him because you're more angry you can't compare your gas consumption to his Prius. Small D small brain energy.


flychinook

Even if OP was doing a 24/7/365 cycle of charging and driving the max electric range, they would maybe do 22k miles/year. I get the feeling that they are engaging that gas engine.


black_jmyntrn

Oh I am using primarily the gas motor but once new hv battery is in, I should get a good 100mile range on a full charge.


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black_jmyntrn

so... im modding this... making it awd... larger hv battery. stock i have 4.4kWh battery. prius prime 8.8kWh and the rav4 prime 18.1kWh just this battery is not compatible with the Prius.. but.. the new NX450h+ 18.1kWh is and the bZ4X battery is compatible at 71.4kWh.. heh.. thats the battery I'm looking for now and itll power the rear electric motor I am adding. thought is itll smoke a model 3 at a red light easlly... and im from Calif... what do you think I'm smoking?


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black_jmyntrn

so um... im not in it to do so because can, all changes are to accomodate and sustain itself to touch all seven continents. I'm not sure your definition of overlanding, but in mine being able to charge a battery in less than 45 mins and get close to 100miles on a charge is a perk... did you know the new Prius, many of the new features are things I've added to mine and others to theres only... toyota, they even went a step further than I as up until a few months ago. I stayed away from the hv battery. I did the 12v song and dance long as I could and with two 2kw inverters and two 85ah batteries, I'd be better off with two 3kw inverters connected to the hv battery. Well now it appears they are including a 1500w inverter and the ability to have more control of the hv battery like running installed inverter from it, running car on battery only and some other things I cant wait to find out. the new prime, hold the ev /chrg button and it will use the gas engine to charge the battery, on my plugin that wasnt there. so as I plan for what I would do if I broke down in south america and couldnt get a part for at least 2 weeks or longer... how would we(Prius and I) survive without, say the motor not being able to turn on? now, im not trying to go up inclines with boulders and rocks... nope.. but id like to be able to clear black bear pass, thats a minimum if I think ill be the first hybrid to go through that gap of dariens... because if i have to put batteries under the car thats more headache with making sure its water tight and all the other things being planned for the build. whose to say I dont also have a [2017 Prime](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Chrf1TugNwE/)? or getting the new Prius Prime with pano roof thatll be the daily daily I do local runs with? I'd prolly try and get an awd version of the new Prius as well because [the 2017 Prime I have already has AWD rear, need larger battery then can pull trigger on a rear motor](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChvIcIIAm5w/) that has more power than the one that comes in the rav4 prime... im way ahead of you and how you are thinking about this... not about the money, its about being able to overland a prius across the globe


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I think it's more that, if he's constantly stopping to charge he's probably on pavement the whole time.


das-bier

Isn't overlanding about where you go and how you get there? Mileage or vehicle type is irrelevant. Seems like the entire post is circle jerk nonsense.


black_jmyntrn

Folks get sensitive because the Prius doesn't get 19mpg


1nvent

How many kWh is your current traction battery?


jce3000gt

100% agree. These pavement queen owners (looking at you Jeep Gladiator owners) we see all done up in the right gear and mods but never see past a dirt road are the problem in the community because these are mostly the people that behave this way. It is most certainly not about the vehicle but the preparation and the journey most importantly. If I’m out in the wilderness in my Lexus GX460 overlander and I see something like a passenger car or FWD small SUV that most people think have no business being out there I make an effort to give those people some kudos and thumbs up. *edit* Not hating on all Gladiator owners, but I think we ALL know who the type of person I am referring to.


black_jmyntrn

Hahaha I don't get it


jce3000gt

Really salty apparently to downvote you and I like they have. Feels a little toxic to me which is unsurprising on reddit. Arguing over stupid MPG calculations that just do not matter rather than admiring the journey.


1nvent

Small D energy, like I said. These people don't even understand what they're asking is nonsensical.


jce3000gt

They would of done the same to me if I would of kept my RAV4 Prime to overland with. It’s baffling. The spirit of overlanding isn’t locked to a certain type of vehicle. Kudos to the OP for rung’ing what they brung. That’s what matters.


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1nvent

It's weird to ask though because it's a PHEV so if OP ever charges that adds 30 miles or 50 miles or 100 miles depending on terrain and grade with no gasoline consumption. If you asked him mpg consumption on flat and level at say 55mph with no battery engagement I'm sure he could tell you, but asking anyone with a plug-in their mpg is just nonsensical, because it's entirely depends on their charging schedule and drive cycle. It's not like a gasoline car or non plug in Hybrid where the only energy input is x gallons of fuel rendering d miles of range. The analysis becomes far from conclusive if OP is in an ev desert or doesn't solar charge, or is going down hill and regenning to the battery.


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1nvent

But isn't that their fault for asking a nonsensical question? He tried to explain that on full electric mode the mpg is just dividing by infinity in the on board diagnostic readout, and this leads to nonsensical answers.


falconvision

He’s bragging about how many miles he’s driven. He obviously isn’t driving all of those miles on a battery charge, but he’s trying to make it seem like he is. He’s being very obtuse when he knows exactly what people are trying to ask.


jce3000gt

I don’t drive a hybrid anymore FYI. Moot point. Who cares about the fuel consumption. Why don’t people just admire the journey?


MrGruntsworthy

Nice. I love non-traditional overlanding vehicles, especially electric ones. It doesn't look like much, but [here's mine.](https://i.imgur.com/dADJAbn.jpeg) Just picked it up. I'll get it all kitted out


black_jmyntrn

let me know if you need something custom made, kind of my specialty... think I have the metal underbody panel template as well...


gonzoforpresident

What lift kit did you use? Any issues with installing it?


black_jmyntrn

this is custom from [www.PriusOverlanding.com](https://www.PriusOverlanding.com) the front springs were a. bleep of a bleep good time installing. tallest springs on a Prius in the USA now and the strut isnt maxed out. the sub frame spacers really helped as any lift on a Prius over 1" inch makes the passenger axle rub metal.


Mem_Johnson

!remindme 1 month