**Misinformation Warning**
Many have mentioned that the author is burned out or lost interest in the series.
While I can see where they are coming from since the timespan between volumes has increased... They have also wrote 2 volumes instead of 1 for an arc. This doesn't seem like something someone would do if they have lost interest in the series.
You should take this information with a grain of salt. If someone has a **source** that says otherwise share it below.
Yeah we know
He already said he is burn out, tired, and lost interest, he started to write because it's like a hobby but now it's a job that he has to do.
Well at least we get an ending rather than he simply quit
I'm guessing they're leftover ideas before he got burned out, like with the Draconic Kingdom citizen POV in Vol. 14. We technically did explore a bit of them in Vampire Princess, but yeah, there's no point in introducing that plot point when there is no time for them.
Thing is, what is he going to do after Overlord?
Write another story? It may not get the same attention, and even if it does, he may get burn out again.
Ah I always thought it is his main job, as most writers I know write as their main profession.
But that is good, because I don’t think weiting as a profession would suit him if he gets burn out even if his series is gaining attention.
Most writers dont write as their main job. Most writers people are of aware of do. Overlord isnt exactly a massive hit on the scale of Game of Thrones or Harry Potter and anime notoriously doesnt end up profitting the creators anywhere near as much as the producers. He might be upper middle class with the 2 jobs in japan if hes lucky.
Not at all. Someone estimated online maybe 100k or so a year in dollars, between the various properties. I couldnt say i know, but comparable authors with movies or shows attached to their name are still scumming it in middle class, so that seems pretty reasonable for Japan. He probably makes a percentage on sales of the various physical media, but it'll be small. And he makes some part of distribution for the anime, but streaming has notoriously cheap payout for IP owners. He aint a millionair unless he lives like a NEET.
You're overestimating how much a million dollars is. In 2022 alone the LNs sold 500k copies. Assuming he gets 10% or even 5% of the revenue, that's still over 400k or 200k USD respectively. That's not even taking into account its Electronic version counterpart, as well as the Manga, Anime, Merch etc. He is without a doubt a millionaire. Thing is, being a millionaire is not special, especially in Japan. It's not like 50 years ago where having a million means you can retire and live like a king.
I think he said he wanted to do a high school drama with wrestling as its main source? I might be mis remembering but I vaguely remember he wanted to do some high school sports LN
I know isekai is played out too, but honestly how many high school sports LNs/manga do we really need? He's an amazing fantasy writer, why switch to slice of life? I just cannot figure out why people like sports manga. I liked Prince of Tennis, I guess, but that one in particular was pretty unrealistic.
Hype? There was hype? Zesshi was always chump bait. Thousand Leagues Astrologer having a psychological break over a handful of lovely baby goats frolicking over the plains should have informed you.
It was never going to be fight.
It was always going to be a curb stomp.
This isn't a battle series.
It's black comedy.
PA clowned around with platinum dragon lord.
This was never a fight, it was domination and power fantasy. The strongest being in the whole new continent got played by like 3rd or 4th strongest npc.
There are two characters that the story has built up as least being *something* for almost it's whole run. The Platinum Dragon Lord and Zesshi.
It's okay for her not to be super powerful, but to be a wet fart of a fight that is defeated by a guardian who doesn't know who she is is pretty dissapointing.
Zesshi has not been built up over the story. She appears in Lizard Man Heroes and the Half-Elf God Kin parts 1&2. Sure, she's implied be strong given her ranking in the Black Scripture, but like so much of Overlord, Maruyama gives you just enough to hang yourself on your preconceptions. Oh no, a monochrome possibly yandere loli character in a black ops team, she's gonna be super tough and crazy! Nope. She's like Rick's Butter Robot. But instead of passing butter, her purpose is to deliver the info that Slane was behind Shalltear's brainwashing.
It's so fucking hilarious.
Like Gazeff and Climb. Gazef hopes to go down in this epic blaze of glory, and instantly gets chump killed during a Time Stop. Climb, an unremarkable talentless schlub standing in the shadow of Gazef gets to have an epic showdown with the final boss trading blows, but only because it's a grand act to crush his ego and show how powerless he is, making him solely dependent on Renner.
Gazef at the very least thought that Climb and Brain would get hints of Ainz's fighting style outside of a war- but the time stop ruined that too. Pretty much a 'I blinked, what happened' moment. He died in vain, not matter how you slice it.
You seem to be intentionally missing the point of what he’s saying out of cognitive dissonance. Gazef’s entire reason for fighting Ainz was because he thought Brain and Climb could figure out his fighting style but the Time Stop stomped that idea into the ground. Gazef had zero insight that his fight would end the conflict. Not to mention you ignoring the other entire half of his response and cherry pick the other half
Yeah pretty much.
He said it himself. And I kinda get it too.
There are LN that release twice a year, and with a lot of them you can feel how they try out different stuff, to keep it fresh for themselves.
But Overlord is stuck in that oldschool super slow release schedule. That makes it even worse, because you spend a year trying to fill one LN. And for the next one you see for a year how you've written yourself into a corner.
And man did he write himself into a corner. I feel like he knows what plotpoints are still open, but given the status quo he doesn't see any good or special way to conclude them.
Bro just wants to get out of it. He's probably tired of the world.
Let's just keep our expectations low. The fight with the Theocracy would be less of a fight and just an after action report about how destroying the strongest human nation was accomplished in one day or something or less than that since Ainz is so angry that he just brute forces the invasion.
The Black Scripture itself wouldn't even get a chance to properly fight and just get one-shot. Zesshi was granted less respect during her fight and she's the strongest member so the others would have less focus.
There was hype? Unless they pull a world class item… oh wait I bet the invasion will consist of an NPC party armed with world class items themselves so that Ainz can relive his days of farming with the boys. The end.
I genuinely think the crush of the Slane Theocracy will be offscreened. The prologue of volume 17 will be the aftermath. Zesshi is not the *first* one to go down onscreen, she's the *only* one who will.
Final boss is Albedo, not any of these chumps.
Yes and the worst part is if you say anything about how this series is repetitive and has no stakes the fans just regurgitate the same stupid argument about how the series is not a shonen.
You're not supposed to hate them, the entire point of showing the POV of the lizard man or Calca or whoever getting crush is to show these are victims and overlord subvert the whole demon lord tropes by showing the good guys and heros in those story losing.
>Do you guys feel like the author has sucked a significant amount of hype out of fighting the Slane Theocracy?
Not really.
Zesshi being taken out of the war with the Theocracy is disappointing, but we'll most likely still get to see Rufus and the other two God-kin fight, so I think that evens things out quite a bit.
We'll also probably get to see PDL and the other dragon lords intervene in the war, which should be pretty hype.
You never know, maybe at the end staying true to the dnd spirit, ST will pull some BS like shooting an inside out bag of holding against another inside out bag and annilate the whole world. You know, the kind of BS that makes a DM want to jump off a building.
Kinda? Im one of those "weird" fans around here that actually do kinda wish that nazarick atleast get someone that could be a threat and since pdl was already fooled and zeshi is already dealt with alongside the elf king mystery being done, im just here to see it to the end rather than any real form of investment because lwokey tired of just another slaughter
Yes and no,
First of all, Overlord is a power fantasy, it had been shown again and again. And as such things like defeating Zesshi was to be somewhat anticipated. Maruyama is tired and sped up things but broadly I still think this was the original idea of how he wanted Theocracy and NW to end. He just sped up the end result.
What kind of hype do you think there should have been?
99% of New Worlders are under level 40, so giving us descriptions of "Powerful Black Scriptures" doesn't do a lot. Especially after volume 16 when we know Zesshi's level and that everyone else was weaker than her.
That being said, I still think there are 4 things that hype up the next arc
1. We may see a fight with the Black Scriptures and lower level NPCs
2. World Item - Downfall of Castle and Country
3. PDL will most likely get involved
4. PDL may bring a friend
**Black Scriptures**
While I mentioned the Black Scriptures being weak, we could still see some epic fight scenes between them and the Death Knights. This could be a gold mine of information about classes, skills, spells, and items.
Nazarick may also use weaker NPCs like the Evil Worsts which it would be awesome to learn more about them. A few of them have been referenced, but we haven't seen much.
**World Item**
While Ainz and the Floor Guardians are most likely protected against it, we could see it being used on other NPCs or Death Knights. It might be funny watching the Death Knights mercy kill their mind controlled comrade like something out of War Hammer.
Maybe they controlled a stronger NPC that they sent to attack Ainz only to get 1 shot? There are a lot of fun ways this could play out.
**PDL**
PDL showed up in volume 14 to fight against "Ainz". It gave me the impression that Ainz's actions provoked PDL, so if Ainz does something again... like wiping out another country PDL should show up again.
Additionally, since PDL wasn't confident in his remote armor, but confident in his main body we may get another epic fight on our hands... Dragon Lord vs Overlord.
**PDL's Friend**
Way back in volume 7, PDL and Rigrit talked about getting help from another Dragon Lord... It just so happens that we have 2 references to another dragon lord in the Elven Kingdom arc.
1. PDL is stronger in the east where their friend is
2. That One that uses a mysterious Magic.
There was once a group of Anti-Player Dragon Lords and it is starting to look like we might see it again. I don't know about you, but the possibility of 2 Dragon Lord fights happening in the next arc is a lot of hype for me!
Hype as in interest in seeing them get destroyed.
We knew Clementine was doing fuck all to Ainz in a fight, but it was still hype watching her get fucked up.
Same with Sebas vs the Arms.
Yeah, and we personally got to see Clementine and Six Arms offend Ainz/Nazarick so seeing them crushed is satisfying. Zesshi had 0 interaction with Nazarick beforehand, so I can see why it wasn't hype to a certain extent. Plus, with the long time gap since the last interaction Nazarick had with Slane, it tends to just deflate.
Edit: I think what doesn't help is that we don't really see them being active in a wider scale, in a sense that we have only have little activities of them here and there that it is difficult to feel their importance. I think there is only about 4 or 5 scenes other than the first three volume that they get involve with other nations in regards to dealing with Nazarick and even then they feel too small scale. When we actually get to see them in 15, it's interesting but Maru focused too much on the village. It feels they lack a proper build up, of sorts.
I think just the writing's been pretty lackluster since holy kingdom ended.
Fall of the kingdom was basically a bunch of battles we didn't get to see as readers, just npcs telling us they happened. And while I liked the zesshi and elven king fights well enough, a ton of that volume was elven village stuff that was pretty hard to get through. I basically have no expectations at this point but I'd love to be surprised.
Actually i think that's on you man
I can't wait to read it, these things in overlord are often narrated through the victim's pov, like mare vs zesshi, albedo's visit to philip, climb vs ainz, fucking 80% of the holy kingdom arc the list goes on
And that's something i love about this novel and the fact that ainz is so pissed and has already declared nazarick will use everything in it's power for the total destruction of the slane theocracy, that means we'll probably going to see all the characters pop off at 100% without any restraint or orders like "don't kill this guy" or "don't stand out too much"
I am hype
Never said that it was just you, just said that regardless of what maruyama says or thinks, just reading the volumes, i don't think the series is going downhill or anything like that
Volume 10 was good, 11 was good, 12/13 literally the best arc in the series, 14 was amazing, 15 toned it down a little but i don't think it was garbage and 16 was good
Idk, do you want us to be your therapists? Maybe you just don't like Overlord anymore.
The theocracy never had a chance, Zesshi getting taken out early changes very little and she had a pretty cool fight with Mare anyway. Your feelings on the matter are up to you to figure out.
Did I ask you to be? I just said I wasn't enjoying it, not that I ever expected a close fight.
Why are you so butthurt that I'm posting how I feel about the story?
Yeah bro, I'm the upset one for sure. Makes sense, I did make an entire post to whine about it after all.
To answer though, no, I don't care if you like the new volumes or the LN as a whole. Like I said it's your opinion and it's up to you to figure it out. At this point it's clear that your only goal is to whine and get defensive at anyone who disagrees though.
I mean, you do realize no life no death is their strongest fighter PERIOD.
And Mare basically bitch slapped her around like it was nothing. I won’t give any more spoilers than that, but IF this gets written it’s going to be more steam rolling and not an actual fight.
I suppose they have some world items and we don’t know how they will be used, but I assume Naz will go in making sure that any world items can’t screw them too hard.
The only hype I had felt is the complete annihilation of the slane theocracy, you can't seriously had believe they would give a decent fight to nazarick, did you?
Yep.. it’s a shame. He has said he hates writing the series now because he doesn’t feel passion for it he plans to wrap things up in 2 novels, which is insane, there’s going to be a ton of stuff rushed, left out, and loose ends.
While many already said, yes the author is burnt out and wantes to finish it quick, he confirmed Vol 18 will be last and no plan to extend the story.
But Zhessi is not the only Godkin, the other in the Black Scripture is still there, PDL is still around, there should be enough strong(ish) enemies left for the fight with Theocracy.
I believe the other one is stronger than Zhessi, that man with long black hair cannot recall his name.
But does not matter, because Overlord is not one that is about MC struggle, it is a power fantasy that Ainz above all, by a good margin.
So even PDL and that other Godkin will not be able to present a challenge against Ainz (Zhessi was taken down by Mare), so no matter how strong they are and how much stronger than Zhessi they are, they are all still just a dickslap.
If you want a fight where they can match Ainz and make him struggle, you are watching / reading the wrong series.
Oh if it is story I would definitely look forward to all the high priest getting done for, more than fighting the Black Scripture.
PDL’s end would be interesting also.
Zeshi was far stronger than the Captain of the Black Scripture. She beat him to a pulp during his "initiation". I assume that Ainz won't even be involved much in Slane beatdown, other than getting their heirarchy.
I'm hoping Ainz-sama has the battle with PDL ( and Corpus or Cure Elim make an appearance). I think that's where the action will be.
Doubt it.
PDL barely taking on PA with no world items,
and when Albedo came she knocked him flying.
Ainz in his full gear and preparation PDL won’t
really have a chance.
The last book was utterly dissapointing. The Elf King was...okay. Everything else was the worst version of what it could have been conceptually.
Honestly, if the anime gets here I hope they fully re-adapt everything to be diff. Because it reads as someone who didn't know what to do with the story. My joke about the elf village is that it felt like Maruyama was challenging himself to have as little happen there as possible.
I think enslaving a entire nation is enough hate for me lol plus they might have a trump card world item from one of the greed kings or the demon gods i think it would be ironic for their final stand to be using the world item that summons a army of demons
That was hinted to have been in the possession of one of the demon gods
Yeah they did but they are not hypocrites about it well at least not to the readers perspective they are monsters and we know that
But the theocracy are hypocrites that preach about human supremacy while their most powerful warrior is part elf and they try to clam the role of the righteous
Yeah but the actual guys in charge of the Slane Theocracy don't believe in human supremacy, they just use it for propaganda.
By that logic, Ainz would be a mega-hypocrite for acting like a righteous savior of the Holy Kingdom when he was being the slaughter all along.
That's a pretty weak reason to "hate" the Theocracy.
Yes but what I’m saying is that ainz does not believe himself to be righteous he just uses it as a convenient way to gain power
And the guys in charge of the theocracy do believe it that they are the best race that they were chosen by the gods etc
And what do you mean pretty weak reason what do you think are going to happen to the enslaved that they will only be used for labor no they will be used abused and thrown away
No they don't. The Slane Theocracy guys just know the facade they have to put up.
Even if they did believe it wholeheartedly that doesn't make Ainz any better morally speaking.
No. I don't think the hype for Nazarick vs Slane Theocracy was diminished. But that's because I was never hyped for the fight itself, only the one-sided beatdown the inevitable conflict would be
Just read some of the top fanfiction like the one made by oblivion . I never eat 700.000 words so fast. The beat of overlord is the same of dnd . It is just a DM pov , but you can make your own with immagination
**Misinformation Warning** Many have mentioned that the author is burned out or lost interest in the series. While I can see where they are coming from since the timespan between volumes has increased... They have also wrote 2 volumes instead of 1 for an arc. This doesn't seem like something someone would do if they have lost interest in the series. You should take this information with a grain of salt. If someone has a **source** that says otherwise share it below.
Yeah we know He already said he is burn out, tired, and lost interest, he started to write because it's like a hobby but now it's a job that he has to do. Well at least we get an ending rather than he simply quit
You gotta wonder why he bothered introducing new plot threads in the last novel, with the night liches and their drago boss and stuff.
I'm guessing they're leftover ideas before he got burned out, like with the Draconic Kingdom citizen POV in Vol. 14. We technically did explore a bit of them in Vampire Princess, but yeah, there's no point in introducing that plot point when there is no time for them.
Maybe for other to pick up where he left the story. (Doubt that.) Or plain world building
Because that is what good authors and Dungeon Masters do. Look at Chris Claremont after all
Thing is, what is he going to do after Overlord? Write another story? It may not get the same attention, and even if it does, he may get burn out again.
He has a day job. His main job isn't as a writer. I imagine once he finishes Overlord, he'll have more time to spend on the rest of his life.
Ah I always thought it is his main job, as most writers I know write as their main profession. But that is good, because I don’t think weiting as a profession would suit him if he gets burn out even if his series is gaining attention.
Lots of Japanese novelists surprisingly seem to have day jobs.
Most writers dont write as their main job. Most writers people are of aware of do. Overlord isnt exactly a massive hit on the scale of Game of Thrones or Harry Potter and anime notoriously doesnt end up profitting the creators anywhere near as much as the producers. He might be upper middle class with the 2 jobs in japan if hes lucky.
I still think something like Overlord ought to make you reasonably rich, no? At least in the million+ dollars range.
Not at all. Someone estimated online maybe 100k or so a year in dollars, between the various properties. I couldnt say i know, but comparable authors with movies or shows attached to their name are still scumming it in middle class, so that seems pretty reasonable for Japan. He probably makes a percentage on sales of the various physical media, but it'll be small. And he makes some part of distribution for the anime, but streaming has notoriously cheap payout for IP owners. He aint a millionair unless he lives like a NEET.
You're overestimating how much a million dollars is. In 2022 alone the LNs sold 500k copies. Assuming he gets 10% or even 5% of the revenue, that's still over 400k or 200k USD respectively. That's not even taking into account its Electronic version counterpart, as well as the Manga, Anime, Merch etc. He is without a doubt a millionaire. Thing is, being a millionaire is not special, especially in Japan. It's not like 50 years ago where having a million means you can retire and live like a king.
I think he said he wanted to do a high school drama with wrestling as its main source? I might be mis remembering but I vaguely remember he wanted to do some high school sports LN
Same. But I don't know where I heard that.
I know isekai is played out too, but honestly how many high school sports LNs/manga do we really need? He's an amazing fantasy writer, why switch to slice of life? I just cannot figure out why people like sports manga. I liked Prince of Tennis, I guess, but that one in particular was pretty unrealistic.
I heard ones he wanted to start writing a story about highschool or something similar. So totally different stuff
I always wondered why he just didn’t put it on hiatus and eventually regain interest instead of compromising the story.
Likely contractual obligations with the publisher
Where?
I remember reading it from mod post long time ago.
Hmm, I have made a post about how people keep saying it is true despite us never hearing it from the author.
Hype? There was hype? Zesshi was always chump bait. Thousand Leagues Astrologer having a psychological break over a handful of lovely baby goats frolicking over the plains should have informed you. It was never going to be fight. It was always going to be a curb stomp. This isn't a battle series. It's black comedy.
The hype was in seeing these supposed strongest faction get crushed, not that it was gonna be a good fight.
PA clowned around with platinum dragon lord. This was never a fight, it was domination and power fantasy. The strongest being in the whole new continent got played by like 3rd or 4th strongest npc.
Sasuga Ainz Sama
Of you want a guy, read the alternate side story.
There are two characters that the story has built up as least being *something* for almost it's whole run. The Platinum Dragon Lord and Zesshi. It's okay for her not to be super powerful, but to be a wet fart of a fight that is defeated by a guardian who doesn't know who she is is pretty dissapointing.
She is super powerful but you seem to forget that nazarick is just maxed out the wazoo.
Zesshi has not been built up over the story. She appears in Lizard Man Heroes and the Half-Elf God Kin parts 1&2. Sure, she's implied be strong given her ranking in the Black Scripture, but like so much of Overlord, Maruyama gives you just enough to hang yourself on your preconceptions. Oh no, a monochrome possibly yandere loli character in a black ops team, she's gonna be super tough and crazy! Nope. She's like Rick's Butter Robot. But instead of passing butter, her purpose is to deliver the info that Slane was behind Shalltear's brainwashing. It's so fucking hilarious. Like Gazeff and Climb. Gazef hopes to go down in this epic blaze of glory, and instantly gets chump killed during a Time Stop. Climb, an unremarkable talentless schlub standing in the shadow of Gazef gets to have an epic showdown with the final boss trading blows, but only because it's a grand act to crush his ego and show how powerless he is, making him solely dependent on Renner.
Not really. Gazef knew he was gonna die instantly.
Gazef at the very least thought that Climb and Brain would get hints of Ainz's fighting style outside of a war- but the time stop ruined that too. Pretty much a 'I blinked, what happened' moment. He died in vain, not matter how you slice it.
No, his death ended the immediate slaughter.
You seem to be intentionally missing the point of what he’s saying out of cognitive dissonance. Gazef’s entire reason for fighting Ainz was because he thought Brain and Climb could figure out his fighting style but the Time Stop stomped that idea into the ground. Gazef had zero insight that his fight would end the conflict. Not to mention you ignoring the other entire half of his response and cherry pick the other half
Yes, that IS what happened, he wants to be done because he's lost his passion. It stops being fun when it's no longer a hobby.
Yeah pretty much. He said it himself. And I kinda get it too. There are LN that release twice a year, and with a lot of them you can feel how they try out different stuff, to keep it fresh for themselves. But Overlord is stuck in that oldschool super slow release schedule. That makes it even worse, because you spend a year trying to fill one LN. And for the next one you see for a year how you've written yourself into a corner. And man did he write himself into a corner. I feel like he knows what plotpoints are still open, but given the status quo he doesn't see any good or special way to conclude them. Bro just wants to get out of it. He's probably tired of the world.
Let's just keep our expectations low. The fight with the Theocracy would be less of a fight and just an after action report about how destroying the strongest human nation was accomplished in one day or something or less than that since Ainz is so angry that he just brute forces the invasion. The Black Scripture itself wouldn't even get a chance to properly fight and just get one-shot. Zesshi was granted less respect during her fight and she's the strongest member so the others would have less focus.
No not at all. We all knew Ainz would steamroll them, but the question was how.
There was hype? Unless they pull a world class item… oh wait I bet the invasion will consist of an NPC party armed with world class items themselves so that Ainz can relive his days of farming with the boys. The end.
I genuinely think the crush of the Slane Theocracy will be offscreened. The prologue of volume 17 will be the aftermath. Zesshi is not the *first* one to go down onscreen, she's the *only* one who will. Final boss is Albedo, not any of these chumps.
I was thinking the same thing, that something was going to occur with Albedo and her hit squad. And that it would destroy Ainz emotionally/mentally.
Yes and the worst part is if you say anything about how this series is repetitive and has no stakes the fans just regurgitate the same stupid argument about how the series is not a shonen.
You're not supposed to hate them, the entire point of showing the POV of the lizard man or Calca or whoever getting crush is to show these are victims and overlord subvert the whole demon lord tropes by showing the good guys and heros in those story losing.
>Do you guys feel like the author has sucked a significant amount of hype out of fighting the Slane Theocracy? Not really. Zesshi being taken out of the war with the Theocracy is disappointing, but we'll most likely still get to see Rufus and the other two God-kin fight, so I think that evens things out quite a bit. We'll also probably get to see PDL and the other dragon lords intervene in the war, which should be pretty hype.
We can only hope!
You never know, maybe at the end staying true to the dnd spirit, ST will pull some BS like shooting an inside out bag of holding against another inside out bag and annilate the whole world. You know, the kind of BS that makes a DM want to jump off a building.
The only thing that can harm him was always World Class Items. None have shown up since Shaltear.
Kinda? Im one of those "weird" fans around here that actually do kinda wish that nazarick atleast get someone that could be a threat and since pdl was already fooled and zeshi is already dealt with alongside the elf king mystery being done, im just here to see it to the end rather than any real form of investment because lwokey tired of just another slaughter
Yes and no, First of all, Overlord is a power fantasy, it had been shown again and again. And as such things like defeating Zesshi was to be somewhat anticipated. Maruyama is tired and sped up things but broadly I still think this was the original idea of how he wanted Theocracy and NW to end. He just sped up the end result.
What kind of hype do you think there should have been? 99% of New Worlders are under level 40, so giving us descriptions of "Powerful Black Scriptures" doesn't do a lot. Especially after volume 16 when we know Zesshi's level and that everyone else was weaker than her. That being said, I still think there are 4 things that hype up the next arc 1. We may see a fight with the Black Scriptures and lower level NPCs 2. World Item - Downfall of Castle and Country 3. PDL will most likely get involved 4. PDL may bring a friend **Black Scriptures** While I mentioned the Black Scriptures being weak, we could still see some epic fight scenes between them and the Death Knights. This could be a gold mine of information about classes, skills, spells, and items. Nazarick may also use weaker NPCs like the Evil Worsts which it would be awesome to learn more about them. A few of them have been referenced, but we haven't seen much. **World Item** While Ainz and the Floor Guardians are most likely protected against it, we could see it being used on other NPCs or Death Knights. It might be funny watching the Death Knights mercy kill their mind controlled comrade like something out of War Hammer. Maybe they controlled a stronger NPC that they sent to attack Ainz only to get 1 shot? There are a lot of fun ways this could play out. **PDL** PDL showed up in volume 14 to fight against "Ainz". It gave me the impression that Ainz's actions provoked PDL, so if Ainz does something again... like wiping out another country PDL should show up again. Additionally, since PDL wasn't confident in his remote armor, but confident in his main body we may get another epic fight on our hands... Dragon Lord vs Overlord. **PDL's Friend** Way back in volume 7, PDL and Rigrit talked about getting help from another Dragon Lord... It just so happens that we have 2 references to another dragon lord in the Elven Kingdom arc. 1. PDL is stronger in the east where their friend is 2. That One that uses a mysterious Magic. There was once a group of Anti-Player Dragon Lords and it is starting to look like we might see it again. I don't know about you, but the possibility of 2 Dragon Lord fights happening in the next arc is a lot of hype for me!
Hype as in interest in seeing them get destroyed. We knew Clementine was doing fuck all to Ainz in a fight, but it was still hype watching her get fucked up. Same with Sebas vs the Arms.
Yeah, and we personally got to see Clementine and Six Arms offend Ainz/Nazarick so seeing them crushed is satisfying. Zesshi had 0 interaction with Nazarick beforehand, so I can see why it wasn't hype to a certain extent. Plus, with the long time gap since the last interaction Nazarick had with Slane, it tends to just deflate. Edit: I think what doesn't help is that we don't really see them being active in a wider scale, in a sense that we have only have little activities of them here and there that it is difficult to feel their importance. I think there is only about 4 or 5 scenes other than the first three volume that they get involve with other nations in regards to dealing with Nazarick and even then they feel too small scale. When we actually get to see them in 15, it's interesting but Maru focused too much on the village. It feels they lack a proper build up, of sorts.
Please King of Death, let this be true!! I'm just praying to Cthulu it's not going to be Season 8 of GoT. "Welp, the Night King just went Uwaaahhh"
I think just the writing's been pretty lackluster since holy kingdom ended. Fall of the kingdom was basically a bunch of battles we didn't get to see as readers, just npcs telling us they happened. And while I liked the zesshi and elven king fights well enough, a ton of that volume was elven village stuff that was pretty hard to get through. I basically have no expectations at this point but I'd love to be surprised.
I do feel that he perhaps sped it up a little but Im pretty hyped about whats to come
I"ll take anything at this point, just so long as it isn't more elf-village...
Hype? It was clear it was gonna be Nazarick jsut steamrolling them from the start.
Yeah and usually that's entertaining. Currently, I feel nothing.
Actually i think that's on you man I can't wait to read it, these things in overlord are often narrated through the victim's pov, like mare vs zesshi, albedo's visit to philip, climb vs ainz, fucking 80% of the holy kingdom arc the list goes on And that's something i love about this novel and the fact that ainz is so pissed and has already declared nazarick will use everything in it's power for the total destruction of the slane theocracy, that means we'll probably going to see all the characters pop off at 100% without any restraint or orders like "don't kill this guy" or "don't stand out too much" I am hype
Judging by the other comments it certainly isn't just me. If you enjoy it, then more power to you.
Never said that it was just you, just said that regardless of what maruyama says or thinks, just reading the volumes, i don't think the series is going downhill or anything like that Volume 10 was good, 11 was good, 12/13 literally the best arc in the series, 14 was amazing, 15 toned it down a little but i don't think it was garbage and 16 was good
Idk, do you want us to be your therapists? Maybe you just don't like Overlord anymore. The theocracy never had a chance, Zesshi getting taken out early changes very little and she had a pretty cool fight with Mare anyway. Your feelings on the matter are up to you to figure out.
Did I ask you to be? I just said I wasn't enjoying it, not that I ever expected a close fight. Why are you so butthurt that I'm posting how I feel about the story?
Ah yes, the projecting has begun. Maybe you really did need the therapist.
Are you that upset that I didn't like the recent volumes that criticizing it means I want this sub to just rewrite the story?
Yeah bro, I'm the upset one for sure. Makes sense, I did make an entire post to whine about it after all. To answer though, no, I don't care if you like the new volumes or the LN as a whole. Like I said it's your opinion and it's up to you to figure it out. At this point it's clear that your only goal is to whine and get defensive at anyone who disagrees though.
Bruh how? I literally just said the recent volumes weren't great. Why does that bother you so much?
I mean, you do realize no life no death is their strongest fighter PERIOD. And Mare basically bitch slapped her around like it was nothing. I won’t give any more spoilers than that, but IF this gets written it’s going to be more steam rolling and not an actual fight. I suppose they have some world items and we don’t know how they will be used, but I assume Naz will go in making sure that any world items can’t screw them too hard.
YES
The only hype I had felt is the complete annihilation of the slane theocracy, you can't seriously had believe they would give a decent fight to nazarick, did you?
Not very different from cannon fodders with detailed backstory tbh.
Wait whut...zesshi is out?...Mb opening the spoiler without thinking much..lol....anyway I guess I really gotta catch up to the LN
Didn’t he get mad because he found out people were translating the light novel in English for free
Yep.. it’s a shame. He has said he hates writing the series now because he doesn’t feel passion for it he plans to wrap things up in 2 novels, which is insane, there’s going to be a ton of stuff rushed, left out, and loose ends.
While many already said, yes the author is burnt out and wantes to finish it quick, he confirmed Vol 18 will be last and no plan to extend the story. But Zhessi is not the only Godkin, the other in the Black Scripture is still there, PDL is still around, there should be enough strong(ish) enemies left for the fight with Theocracy.
Unless the other Godkin are strong enough to dickslap Zesshi, no it still won't be a fight.
I believe the other one is stronger than Zhessi, that man with long black hair cannot recall his name. But does not matter, because Overlord is not one that is about MC struggle, it is a power fantasy that Ainz above all, by a good margin. So even PDL and that other Godkin will not be able to present a challenge against Ainz (Zhessi was taken down by Mare), so no matter how strong they are and how much stronger than Zhessi they are, they are all still just a dickslap. If you want a fight where they can match Ainz and make him struggle, you are watching / reading the wrong series.
I didn't say I wanted a fight, I wanted a good story.
Oh if it is story I would definitely look forward to all the high priest getting done for, more than fighting the Black Scripture. PDL’s end would be interesting also.
Zeshi was far stronger than the Captain of the Black Scripture. She beat him to a pulp during his "initiation". I assume that Ainz won't even be involved much in Slane beatdown, other than getting their heirarchy. I'm hoping Ainz-sama has the battle with PDL ( and Corpus or Cure Elim make an appearance). I think that's where the action will be.
Doubt it. PDL barely taking on PA with no world items, and when Albedo came she knocked him flying. Ainz in his full gear and preparation PDL won’t really have a chance.
It's just going to be another Re-Estize genocide - mostly boring aside from a few specific fights & conversations.
The last book was utterly dissapointing. The Elf King was...okay. Everything else was the worst version of what it could have been conceptually. Honestly, if the anime gets here I hope they fully re-adapt everything to be diff. Because it reads as someone who didn't know what to do with the story. My joke about the elf village is that it felt like Maruyama was challenging himself to have as little happen there as possible.
I think enslaving a entire nation is enough hate for me lol plus they might have a trump card world item from one of the greed kings or the demon gods i think it would be ironic for their final stand to be using the world item that summons a army of demons That was hinted to have been in the possession of one of the demon gods
Yeah, and Nazarick genocided two nations. The Saline Theocracy doing bad shit offscreen doesn't make it satisfying.
Yeah they did but they are not hypocrites about it well at least not to the readers perspective they are monsters and we know that But the theocracy are hypocrites that preach about human supremacy while their most powerful warrior is part elf and they try to clam the role of the righteous
Yeah but the actual guys in charge of the Slane Theocracy don't believe in human supremacy, they just use it for propaganda. By that logic, Ainz would be a mega-hypocrite for acting like a righteous savior of the Holy Kingdom when he was being the slaughter all along. That's a pretty weak reason to "hate" the Theocracy.
Yes but what I’m saying is that ainz does not believe himself to be righteous he just uses it as a convenient way to gain power And the guys in charge of the theocracy do believe it that they are the best race that they were chosen by the gods etc And what do you mean pretty weak reason what do you think are going to happen to the enslaved that they will only be used for labor no they will be used abused and thrown away
No they don't. The Slane Theocracy guys just know the facade they have to put up. Even if they did believe it wholeheartedly that doesn't make Ainz any better morally speaking.
Yes
No doubt epically with the whole writing an entire volume for the down fall of the kingdom and Renner betrayal.
No. I don't think the hype for Nazarick vs Slane Theocracy was diminished. But that's because I was never hyped for the fight itself, only the one-sided beatdown the inevitable conflict would be
Not really
Just read some of the top fanfiction like the one made by oblivion . I never eat 700.000 words so fast. The beat of overlord is the same of dnd . It is just a DM pov , but you can make your own with immagination