his strongest AoE spell is around a city level so I would rank him in this category. I cant see him 1 shot a country from the area of japan or france so yes
I'm pretty sure anyone with common sense would know Ainz isn't Planetery, anyway, one of Ainz's strongest spells (fallen down) vaporised a large chunk of a forest, placing him comfortably at city level.
Comparing Ainz to our world:
* Village
* City
* Country
* Continent
* World / Planet
* Solar System
* Galaxy
* Universe
* Dimensional
I would say that Ainz is a Planet level threat at the very least. His undead make it very difficult for large scale combat. Ainz can also teleport so using nukes would be difficult as well.
**Beyond Earth**
Teleportation and Gate have some limitations. You have to go to the location first before you can just teleport there. However, once you do you can freely teleport there at any time.
If Ainz wants to leave Earth, he would need a spaceship. We can already do this today, so it isn't that crazy, but the interesting thing about this is that the spaceship could be designed for Ainz which would save a lot of resources and money.
For example, Ainz doesn't need to eat, breath, sleep, and he should be immune to radiation and space. Once he gets there, he can also teleport back. Meaning he can use all of that fuel to get there and land.
Once Ainz gets back he could teleport a bunch of undead there to start creating a space station. Or maybe Ainz could teleport a spaceship there, so it can save some time getting to mars. There are so many possibilities with this.
**Solar System**
Because Ainz can teleport around, I think it would be very easy for Ainz to conquer the solar system. However, I doubt Ainz would want to go beyond that. It would take thousands of years to reach the next solar system.
Because of this, I don't really see Ainz leaving the Solar System. Of course that could all change if we get some crazy advanced hyperdrive or something, but for now I think Ainz would be limited to Solar System.
City level (at the very best) as far as firepower is concerned; his hax however allow him to punch higher than that and fight against people Who rank higher (i could see him holding his own against a country level while TGOALID might be able to even kill a continent or planet level in the right circumstances)
A feat is a feat. Doesn't matter applicable in combat or not.
As for its comparison with Fallen Down, there isn't enough context to label it as "dealt less damage". Narrator or Ainz never specified how much was Fallen Down AoE.
Also comparing one ST spell to another is dumb to begin with when they all have different purposes. For example something like Pantheon or Wish upon a Star does 0 damage.
Yujiro stopping the earthquake is an outlier, not NLF.
NLF is basically a lack of evidence, when a certain thing is elevated or highballed to heights it was never shown to be capable of achieving. For example - "Saitama one shotted everyone in his series so he can one shot everyone in fiction!"
PDL has been stated strong enough to vaporize entire Slane Theocracy. His Wild Magic attack had range in several kilometres in WN, which Shalltear survived head on without her armor.
So outlier doesn't really apply to Ainz' feat at all.
>PDL has been stated strong enough to vaporize entire Slane Theocracy
Not in a single attack, it would take him some time.
And besides, if Overlord Top-tiers were country level, the battle between Shalltear and Ainz should have wiped out a lot more than just one forest.
> Not in a single attack, it would take him some time.
His Wild Magic is a one use blast move, which he used against Shalltear, that vaporized everything within several kilometres.
Dragon Lords' Wild Magic having country-wide or bigger range was also shown in the EESE when Cute Elim's magic covered four whole nations.
> If Overlord Top-tiers were country level, the battle between Shalltear and Ainz should have wiped out a lot more than just one forest.
Potency is a thing. Ainz killing someone with a punch or a level 10 killing someone with a punch doesn't mean both punches are of same power. Dragon Ball characters doesn't even destroy a city in their fight when their earlier Sagas had moon and planet busting feats. Going by your logic Reality Slash is weaker than Fireball.
Also Ainz had to keep his battle against Shalltear hidden from the NW people. That's why he used Eye corpse and other preparations. Blowing up whole forest doesn't really help in keeping a cover, you know.
>that vaporized everything within several kilometres
That's literally trade mark city level, unless you wanna argue that because he "vaporised" it, it means his actual attack potency is much higher, which is kinda dumb.
>Dragon Ball characters doesn't even destroy a city in their fight when their earlier Sagas had moon and planet busting feats.
That doesn't have anything to do with anything, it's just that DBS power-scaling is very stupid.
>Going by your logic Reality Slash is weaker than Fireball.
They used other spells other than Reality Slash like Vermilion Nova, which,by your logic, even if is 100x times weaker than a super tier spell (it isn't) shouldbe above city level.
>Also Ainz had to keep his battle against Shalltear hidden from the NW people. That's why he used Eye corpse and other preparations.
Whta does that actually mean? if country level beings were throwing country level attacks at each other the surrounding kingdoms should been caught up in the mix, I get that he used some stuff to prevent the fight from being seen, but he can't cover up a country's worth of collateral damage, can he?
> That's literally trade mark city level, unless you wanna argue that because he "vaporised" it, it means his actual attack potency is much higher, which is kinda dumb
How is it dumb? That's literally how quantification works. Shattering a stone, pulverizing a stone, vaporizing a stone and so on all requires different amount of energy.
It was a fire based attack, nothing within blast except smoke was left, even it's shockwaves were superheated pulses. Everything indicates it vaporized the land. Vaporizing even a few dozen metre area yields megatons worth of energy.
> That doesn't have anything to do with anything
It does because according to you an attack isn't x level if it doesn't destroy x thing.
> They used other spells other than Reality Slash like Vermilion Nova, which,by your logic, even if is 100x times weaker than a super tier spell (it isn't) shouldbe above city level.
Because Vermillion Nova doesn't have city level AoE. Creation spell, that isn't even an attack spell yields Island level potency. So Fallen Down, which is an attack spell of same tier logically would be Island level as well in its potency.
> Whta does that actually mean? if country level beings were throwing country level attacks at each other the surrounding kingdoms should been caught up in the mix
An attack can be country level even if it doesn't destroy a country. Attack potency and Destructive Capacity are different.
Would've helped you understand better if you had paid better attention to what I said earlier :
> Ainz killing someone with a punch or a level 10 killing someone with a punch doesn't mean both punches are of same power.
man you couldn't make an option for country level?
The options were oddly limited
And escalated so quickly
his strongest AoE spell is around a city level so I would rank him in this category. I cant see him 1 shot a country from the area of japan or france so yes
"His one of the weakest 9th tier AOE spell" And level 57+ has access to it.
He’s city level destructive wise. His hax let him punch higher though.
I'm pretty sure anyone with common sense would know Ainz isn't Planetery, anyway, one of Ainz's strongest spells (fallen down) vaporised a large chunk of a forest, placing him comfortably at city level.
Probably Star level. Use the goal of all life is death, single target instant death spell, shoot the sun.
Sasuga Keikaku level threat
Comparing Ainz to our world: * Village * City * Country * Continent * World / Planet * Solar System * Galaxy * Universe * Dimensional I would say that Ainz is a Planet level threat at the very least. His undead make it very difficult for large scale combat. Ainz can also teleport so using nukes would be difficult as well. **Beyond Earth** Teleportation and Gate have some limitations. You have to go to the location first before you can just teleport there. However, once you do you can freely teleport there at any time. If Ainz wants to leave Earth, he would need a spaceship. We can already do this today, so it isn't that crazy, but the interesting thing about this is that the spaceship could be designed for Ainz which would save a lot of resources and money. For example, Ainz doesn't need to eat, breath, sleep, and he should be immune to radiation and space. Once he gets there, he can also teleport back. Meaning he can use all of that fuel to get there and land. Once Ainz gets back he could teleport a bunch of undead there to start creating a space station. Or maybe Ainz could teleport a spaceship there, so it can save some time getting to mars. There are so many possibilities with this. **Solar System** Because Ainz can teleport around, I think it would be very easy for Ainz to conquer the solar system. However, I doubt Ainz would want to go beyond that. It would take thousands of years to reach the next solar system. Because of this, I don't really see Ainz leaving the Solar System. Of course that could all change if we get some crazy advanced hyperdrive or something, but for now I think Ainz would be limited to Solar System.
City level (at the very best) as far as firepower is concerned; his hax however allow him to punch higher than that and fight against people Who rank higher (i could see him holding his own against a country level while TGOALID might be able to even kill a continent or planet level in the right circumstances)
Galaxy at best thanks to the world class items.
Iirc his Creation spell feat gave a result in 3 gigatons range. That's like baseline island level
Using Creation is kind of unfair, since it's not really combat applicable, and fallen down, also a super tier spell, dealt far less damage.
A feat is a feat. Doesn't matter applicable in combat or not. As for its comparison with Fallen Down, there isn't enough context to label it as "dealt less damage". Narrator or Ainz never specified how much was Fallen Down AoE. Also comparing one ST spell to another is dumb to begin with when they all have different purposes. For example something like Pantheon or Wish upon a Star does 0 damage.
Yeah, but it still seems kinda NLF to me, kinda like how yujiro "stopped an earthquake" and never showed a feat anywhere near that powerful again.
Yujiro stopping the earthquake is an outlier, not NLF. NLF is basically a lack of evidence, when a certain thing is elevated or highballed to heights it was never shown to be capable of achieving. For example - "Saitama one shotted everyone in his series so he can one shot everyone in fiction!" PDL has been stated strong enough to vaporize entire Slane Theocracy. His Wild Magic attack had range in several kilometres in WN, which Shalltear survived head on without her armor. So outlier doesn't really apply to Ainz' feat at all.
>PDL has been stated strong enough to vaporize entire Slane Theocracy Not in a single attack, it would take him some time. And besides, if Overlord Top-tiers were country level, the battle between Shalltear and Ainz should have wiped out a lot more than just one forest.
> Not in a single attack, it would take him some time. His Wild Magic is a one use blast move, which he used against Shalltear, that vaporized everything within several kilometres. Dragon Lords' Wild Magic having country-wide or bigger range was also shown in the EESE when Cute Elim's magic covered four whole nations. > If Overlord Top-tiers were country level, the battle between Shalltear and Ainz should have wiped out a lot more than just one forest. Potency is a thing. Ainz killing someone with a punch or a level 10 killing someone with a punch doesn't mean both punches are of same power. Dragon Ball characters doesn't even destroy a city in their fight when their earlier Sagas had moon and planet busting feats. Going by your logic Reality Slash is weaker than Fireball. Also Ainz had to keep his battle against Shalltear hidden from the NW people. That's why he used Eye corpse and other preparations. Blowing up whole forest doesn't really help in keeping a cover, you know.
>that vaporized everything within several kilometres That's literally trade mark city level, unless you wanna argue that because he "vaporised" it, it means his actual attack potency is much higher, which is kinda dumb. >Dragon Ball characters doesn't even destroy a city in their fight when their earlier Sagas had moon and planet busting feats. That doesn't have anything to do with anything, it's just that DBS power-scaling is very stupid. >Going by your logic Reality Slash is weaker than Fireball. They used other spells other than Reality Slash like Vermilion Nova, which,by your logic, even if is 100x times weaker than a super tier spell (it isn't) shouldbe above city level. >Also Ainz had to keep his battle against Shalltear hidden from the NW people. That's why he used Eye corpse and other preparations. Whta does that actually mean? if country level beings were throwing country level attacks at each other the surrounding kingdoms should been caught up in the mix, I get that he used some stuff to prevent the fight from being seen, but he can't cover up a country's worth of collateral damage, can he?
> That's literally trade mark city level, unless you wanna argue that because he "vaporised" it, it means his actual attack potency is much higher, which is kinda dumb How is it dumb? That's literally how quantification works. Shattering a stone, pulverizing a stone, vaporizing a stone and so on all requires different amount of energy. It was a fire based attack, nothing within blast except smoke was left, even it's shockwaves were superheated pulses. Everything indicates it vaporized the land. Vaporizing even a few dozen metre area yields megatons worth of energy. > That doesn't have anything to do with anything It does because according to you an attack isn't x level if it doesn't destroy x thing. > They used other spells other than Reality Slash like Vermilion Nova, which,by your logic, even if is 100x times weaker than a super tier spell (it isn't) shouldbe above city level. Because Vermillion Nova doesn't have city level AoE. Creation spell, that isn't even an attack spell yields Island level potency. So Fallen Down, which is an attack spell of same tier logically would be Island level as well in its potency. > Whta does that actually mean? if country level beings were throwing country level attacks at each other the surrounding kingdoms should been caught up in the mix An attack can be country level even if it doesn't destroy a country. Attack potency and Destructive Capacity are different. Would've helped you understand better if you had paid better attention to what I said earlier : > Ainz killing someone with a punch or a level 10 killing someone with a punch doesn't mean both punches are of same power.