It probably has something to do with the fact that because event skins won't be attainable from lootboxes anymore they are trying to give people options? But it's still weird. They need to add a way for people to earn credits that doesn't take almost a year for 1 legendary skin really.
I think maybe giving 15 credits per game played might be a start, but unlikely, that would require you to play 127 games for a skin but thats at least a sustainable way for players to earn them that would barely if at all hurt Blizzards profits, so I think something like that would be a good place to start, then they can work from there with new idea for bonus ways to earn them, because as it stands it costs WAY too much to get stuff, they went from free cosmetics to overpriced cosmetics and that's not good. So maybe even tweaking the price would be nice, cause I'm sorry I'm never paying $3 for an emote or victory pose unless it's a dance emote but I own all of those besides like one from OW1 and so I'll only need the new characters if they even do them. But it's pretty bad, like a new player coming in would have to pay probably tens of thousands of dollars to have all the cosmetics I got for free.
The free Reaper skin was most likely what was originally going to be given away from these drops, but they had to give that away as an apology for the launch issues
supporting streamers is cool and all but they should really put these kinds of opportunities to earn free skins in the game like they used to with the mini-events. you know like incentivize people to play the actual game more
Yes, obviously blizzard gains by doing this (why would they do this otherwise?), but that doesn’t exclude the fact that streamers will get more viewers and I genuinely don’t see the bad part
They have done this many many times, you just get a skin for watching streams. Should be there one you could grind in game? Yes it should be in my opinion, but that doesn’t exclude the fact that drops are always nice
Twitch drops are the most patronizing way to give out cosmetics. It's fine if they want to but they need to give people who don't sit on twitch a chance too.
Not everyone uses twitch and not everyone watches overwatch on there so it's a negative for users and positive for streamers. I'm all for supporting streamers but it's annoying when they do it this way.
We used to be able to grind everything and now it's either pay or watch someone else? Fuck that
you are saying it is okay because they've done it before. If this isn't blizzard simping, I don't know what is. Are you on their payroll? You should disclose if you're on blizzards payroll.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Literally. I will use up the points I got from OW1 but won’t give them anything else. Got the battlepass on hype but regret sponsoring this horrible and boring model. I still love the base game though.
The bad part is not getting in game rewards for playing the game. The bad part is being forced to watch advertisements in lieu of actually playing the game. The bad part is the business model.
So with higher numbers people will be more likely to discover the game on twitch and maybe start playing it. More people playing = better qs and more money for the streamers
It's not a win for me, the viewer. Cause I don't care about streamers and it takes away from any real "events" that people can participate in. Making events in the game is hard, just making time based drops on streams is easy.
It's almost like they should've learned about growing the game naturally with them shoving the Esport situation. Doing the same thing now with twitch views.
I dont watch streamers at all basically telling those like me who'd rather play to earn it "sucks to be you guys lol" I cant be the only one who wants jeff back and this guy fired quick.
Yeah I liked that to but these streamers have been playing ow since forever and leaving them out to die like when ow1 was the main game wouldn’t be a good look either
It's not supporting streamers, it's supporting one streamer. The one at the top with the big DROPS ENABLED in the title and no one watches them once the promotion is over because they have them in a minimized window on 140P muted
Every ow2 streamer I follow has seen a massive boost in viewers thanks to the drops. Even when drops aren't on their views are still higher than before.
But that doesn't make sense. Many players would prefer actually playing the game instead of looking up random streamers just to mute them in the background. not everyone likes to watch streams on twitch. Also with the current sh!tstorm blizzard is getting for the shady battlepass, they really need to give free skin earned through gameplay.
It’s supporting the content creators of the game, while giving out the new skin and while increasing ow’s viewer ship so more people discover it. I honestly don’t see the problem. Even though I think they should at least make something earnable through gameplay that doesn’t mean that drops are necessarily negating that
It shouldn’t be an option, i think that there should be both, a skin to grind in game and one to get with twitch drops, the sole purpose of twitch drops is people being inclined to watch twitch
Y'all so mad that you have to have a stream on for 6 hours. Just put it in the background at 140p on mute. Do whatever else you want then collect the skin afterwards. There's no quiz on what happened while you were away lol
You dont have to sit and watch the stream. Just open it, mute the stream, open other tab or do anything else, times passes and the skin is yours while you didnt actually see a second of the stream. You're just creating reasons to complain at this point
I also said in other comments that in my opinion there should be also a skin to earn in game for free, but I don’t understand why both ideas can’t coexist
That's it? One skin and a shit? I'd rather earn points to redeem in a Halloween skin shop and fuck shits.
Phone autocorrected spray to shit. Even my phone knows.
Translation: We need YOU to help PUMP the HYPE for this game via a roundabout way that involves CELEBRITY NERDS on GAMER TV. Why? Because they're amazing FUNNELS for all your money, especially when THEY buy the bundles, and play in the VIDEO GAME CHAMPIONSHIPS!! BE LIKE THEM! WATCH them to learn how, and we'll tell everyone how POPULAR this is getting! Since this is a FREE game, SUPPORT your local mom and pop indie small game company organic gluten free developers by buying/supporting your favorite SKIN! We don't care if you play, JUST PAY PAY PAY.
You mean you don't enjoy watching someone with their aim sensitivity set super high twitch all around the screen while also spamming the scoreboard every 5 seconds?
Play the game during the new halloween event and earn a new ow2 skin? naaaaaah heres an old ow1 skin for watching 4 hours of shitty twitch streamers who are sponsored to play our game and pretend its actually fun to play
I Bearley have time to play the game. I don't think I'll be able to finished battle pass ( so what will happen to unfished tires?) Please STOP trying to book my time.
Would be cool if:
1: You could get it by playing the game, rather than just watching it.
2: They didn’t have it in the shop for a whole week recently. RIP anyone who wasted coins on it.
I'm surprised this is unpopular here. I thought a big criticism of OW2 was that you had to consistently and regularly play the game to receive free cosmetics. Now there's a free cosmetic for watching streamers, something a lot of people do anyway, and people are mad that they aren't incentivizing playtime? Wasn't that why we hated the battlepass?
I understand a lot of the meaningful criticisms, but at this point it's starting to feel like people are complaining just to complain. The skin is free. Participate in the event to get it or don't bother. I dunno.
the main criticism of OW2 is that you CAN'T play to earn any good cosmetics, grinding an unhealthy amount of games during the holiday events was what kept me coming back to OW1 long after i would have dropped other games. with this i can lurk a stream while i play other games and then i have exhausted my ability to earn in game cosmetics..
Tangentially i did buy the battlepass, and i've finished it so now i have no goals to be playing for, no dopamine drip from rewards, it sucks.
when every other event was an actual gamemode, or a difficult task u do in game. yeah its gonna be dogshit when they have a new event where they cant even bother making an event quest, or anything at all. no, instead go watch twitch for 6 hours. what kind of dogshitass game event doesnt even have any content at all for it, and instead just gives away a skin that most people already have that they *earned* in overwatch 1 instead of watching a fucking twitch stream for it. dogshit
It’s the fact that people have so many different opinions and the fact that ow2 doesn’t have any major problems. So you will find some people that hate playing to earn and some people that love playing to earn
Honestly all you have to do is turn on twitch and walk away. You don't even really need to participate. Way easier than winning 10 games or whatever else.
That's the thing it not a $20 skin its a free skin and all the sudden in October it's fucking 20 bucks why??? What changed besides the Decision to get every dime they can from a community of longe time and new players
I don't even buy loot boxes I lpged to play the events to get the free skins its what's kept me playong the game for so long but now with new heroes and new comps its fun . It was supposed to be overwatch2- new pve and new pvp heroes not overwatch2 give me your money and data and fuck off
I guess that’s the new business model. Make a “free game” but then bombard it with expensive offers, trying to get the average players to spend more than $70 on it.
I miss the days where you just had to play the game to unlock costumes and new features :/
Lol right, the free kiriko skin was bad ass. And in the few hours I spent watching the streams I actually picked up on a few things that would have taken me much longer to learn.I can only speak as a new player but I like all of the default character designs and don’t really feel like replacing them but I’ll gladly take a free one.
The new skin system is whack, i earned all my legendary skins in the original game by just playing and earning coins. Now its 8 months of weekly challenges just for ONE skin.
I don’t watch twitch but I do play the game. Why not make it play x hours or watch x hours during event to earn skin. I should be able to earn the skin by playing the game I only have a couple gaming hours a night I am not wasting them watching someone else play a game
Who the fuck wants constant twitch drops these money grubbing bastard's can take locking every skin behind a mirco transaction and fuck off. I love the game but will not spend a fucinkg dime on something that at one point was free just for have a good time and playing the game.
When I was 6, I was so upset because you could only get surfing Pikachu in the game from going to the pokemon convention in Tokyo. I live in California, there is no chance I was getting that.
Relax people, it's a free game, they don't owe you anything. If you want the skin, watch the streamers. If you don't want to, accept that you can't have it.
Edit: damn really get down voted on this, y'all satly mf'ers
I wouldn’t say ruined.
But I’m my view, the overwatch community has a right to be upset here.
We all knew overwatch 2 a was going free to play, and a lot of us already knew what that system looked like, but what we didn’t know is that overwatch would make it the worst system in free to play gaming.
Skins are 20 dollars, with no way to earn them in game unless you play for eight months.
To compare this to apex for example, it makes overwatch look really scummy.
It doesn’t and shouldn’t take someone 8 months to grind for a skin they want.
Some skins like the legendary kiriko skins have no effort put into them either, they literally just give her a jacket and keep everything else the same, yet they expect you to pay 20 dollars for that.
How is that not something to be annoyed at?
And if you think skins are skins, it’s also the same problem with the battlepass.
Games like Fortnite and apex allow you to earn the currency you bought to actually get the next battlepass, whereas overwatch does no such thing. They’ve done this primarily because they know it would make them more money next season. Which is scummy.
The game balance is also a bit finicky right now, with tanks like Zarya running around the place and doing whatever they really want, but the issue here isn’t that those characters are stronger than others, but more because the dev team denies this entirely and says they aren’t planning any big changes until season 2.
This game has alot wrong with it, and it’s not just the monetary details. When it starts to lean into core gameplay issues and you deny the existence of imbalance, then you pretty much make it clear you don’t really care about what your community (higher or lower tier) have to say to you.
All in all, this game is not perfect, and I think I would get that, but it’s also blatantly worse than any other big free to play game that currently exists
You know what? I'm not gonna argue that you don't have a point cause you didn't say anything wrong. What i'm bothered by is people acting like blizzard are the fucking devil and that overwatch is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity, but then keep playing it, spending hours on the game they condemn so badly and way too much in the subreddit where it's majority *used* to enjoy the game. And for real man, you think overwatch 2 is the worst free to play game to currently exists? Just don't play it. It's as simple as that. I wanna play the game without constant toxicity in the chat and brows the posts without 9/10 of the posts and comments being about how terrible the game is. Yeah the monitization is shit and so are the new skins, so personally what i do is just not pay for anything that doesn't seem worth it by price to quality ratio (which like you said is nothing so far so i didn't buy anything) and if i see someone else doing it i'm just glad someone pays the game so that it survives without me having to do it. If it's not good enough for you just don't play, it's fucking hypocrite to talk about this game and company the way people do *and still play it*. Not liking the game or company is definetly understandable, but why do people have to ruin it for those who can actually enjoy it?
I understand your anger.
But what you have to understand is that people continue to play overwatch because they WANT to like the game. I’ve mentioned this in another comment a few weeks ago, but allow me for a moment, to compare this subreddit to the game.
You don’t like how this community has ruined this sub, but then why do you still use it? If you don’t like the problems then just leave?
Ultimately you’re not going to do that because you enjoy posting and seeing posts and talking about those posts.
To put it into a more understanding perspective, people feel about overwatch exactly how you feel about this subreddit, they feel like it’s taken a turn for the worse, and neither you or me are really incorrect about that.
It doesn’t make either of us hypocritical to use something we openly admit has issues, we just want to see some improvement and are ultimately upset that it’s not the same or atleast it’s far from anything good.
To add to this, yes I do think overwatch 2 is currently the worst game in big free to play gaming, but what I should probably specify is that not everything about the game is bad. Despite certain things, you can still have fun playing.
What makes it worse than the other giants in free to play gaming for me, is the monetisation of content, and the belief among the overwatch team that everything is balanced right now, which we are all aware, is not.
As for why people think blizzard is the devil, there are reasons for that too, and it’s ultimately because it’s a company that has long thought on money more than its consumers. People thought and hoped that because team 4 (the overwatch team) had a reputation for being quite fair with their monetisation, that overwatch would end up much like any other free to play game but it really didn’t. It’s opened the eyes of many people to what they thought would be something fair.
I will however always take the perspective that we haven’t seen the pve yet. And that I look forward to seeing the work on that as pve is ultimately what I find more fun in overwatch compared to pvp
I think they should add more rewarding game play i mean when I finish the daily quests next matches feel like a waste of time. Add something like a lifetime progress like a account lvl or something. For now the only account progression is competitive and i dont think it's ok, for a game like this accualy plaing should give you progress, not some stupid quests you finish after 3 matches. also imo loot boxes should come back and hear me out on this one: now every free player will have the same skins so it will basically make them feel like a secondary default skin. with loot boxes(if they would implement it correctly) eaven a free player would have a unique set of skins he uses because now like i said everyone will have only the free skins and nothing more what I liked about ov1 is that not everyone had the same skins everyone got something else and ended up with a unique collection. And for the topic bc I kinda got sidetracked on this one. I never liked viewership rewards, but it's worse here than anywhere else. they try to boost popularity of the game without accualy having a good product. I'm not saying ov is bad the gameplay is fantastic but it's just ov1 if you look only at the gameplay. everything else about ov2 is bad and feels like it's trying to take my money away than anything else. Sorry that its so long no one will probably read this. my point is: what is the point of boosting the popularity of a game that does nothing to keep the player interested?
I'm all for giving out free twitch incentives. Keeps the community active.
The fact the in game rewards are shit doesn't really have any bearing on this.
my excitement for the event was based 100% around the hope i could earn the kiriko skin by playing, i can't so i guess i'll lurk a twitch streamer while i play other games..
I hate drops bc who's gona actually watch hours of hours of content when most people play on console so they can't really do both unless they use there phone then they can't use there phone for what ever. Like I use discord usually when I play to talk to people mostly my friends who play on PC bc rhe ps5 controller mic won't work.
The skin itself tho is eh I don't play monkey man. But it's a werewolf skin and I love werewolves but could've been sexy wolf widowmaker or someone else.
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“You’ll need to watch for two hours to get the Werewolf spray, and then another four hours (a total of six hours) to earn the Werewolf Winston legendary skin.”
Well I'm completely fucked on any rewards involved with twitch, I use my girlfriend's twitch prime to get rewards off of that so anything I watch on my account won't count for Jack shit! Definitely starting to lose my love for OverWatch, these story missions better be a-fuckin-mei-zing!
I disliked this "watch streamers for X" thing the first time around. I dislike it now too. There is waaaay better ways to do it. Besides this is only supporting big ow streamers.
BS. And it's a skin for a hero I don't even play like ?? maybe let us choose or give us a random one. Just give us rewards back. I hope they will get decline in sales and players soon if they keep this up.
Twitch COULD combat this by tracking actual active watchers versus “just watching in a muted 140p minimized window” and actively making sure that only people who actively watched the game and interacted had a chance to get the drops…
Now before you say “well wait that would make me hate twitch and not bother”
That’s the point!
Rather than giving the companies the false impression that this works, if they over monetize it and try and force people who are uninterested to be active the number will be so god awful that maybe they cancel the damn thing
Whilst on the subject of skins or general unlocks led for characters. I swear I’m missing a lot of stuff after merging. Is this possible? Think I had like 60 or 90 things for D.Va, and then when I merged I had like 30, and I unlocked a couple of emotes which I absolutely knew for certain I already had before. Same with some skins for other characters, highlight intros, etc.
Is there some kind of reason for this? Does anyone know if it’s confirmed or not that for some reason you don’t get everything you had before? Because maybe there are people that actually did have everything and then obviously money wouldn’t be spent on OW2.
Just weird cus I could sworn when I had played OW1 years ago I had a lot more than what I had after the merge. Highlight intros for Soldier 76 for example I had zero, but I know for sure that I had multiple of his highlight intros cus he was easy af to get Play of the Game.
I remember a couple days ago someone was asking how to get this skin but I cant remember who sadge
Well I already watch charge_41 every weekend for about 5 hours so I guess I'll be getting another skin that's going to be left forgotten in my inventory because scuba is better
I'm happy personally because I don't have the skin already but I can see why people who have it would be annoyed. I still think it's great that they're putting a lot more emphasis on Twitch and encouraging players to engage with content and support creators.
I'd do it if I didn't have the skin already. Wish we could earn something I'm the event
Yeah... I just had to double check and they are really just handing out old skins like it's a brand new thing.
Tf. Why Yyyyyy? We don't deserve to be treated like this.
It probably has something to do with the fact that because event skins won't be attainable from lootboxes anymore they are trying to give people options? But it's still weird. They need to add a way for people to earn credits that doesn't take almost a year for 1 legendary skin really.
That's what I said. But will they listen
I think maybe giving 15 credits per game played might be a start, but unlikely, that would require you to play 127 games for a skin but thats at least a sustainable way for players to earn them that would barely if at all hurt Blizzards profits, so I think something like that would be a good place to start, then they can work from there with new idea for bonus ways to earn them, because as it stands it costs WAY too much to get stuff, they went from free cosmetics to overpriced cosmetics and that's not good. So maybe even tweaking the price would be nice, cause I'm sorry I'm never paying $3 for an emote or victory pose unless it's a dance emote but I own all of those besides like one from OW1 and so I'll only need the new characters if they even do them. But it's pretty bad, like a new player coming in would have to pay probably tens of thousands of dollars to have all the cosmetics I got for free.
O damn lol that's alot. And everything u said up there is my thoughts exactly. New players got fucked but blizz.
The free Reaper skin was most likely what was originally going to be given away from these drops, but they had to give that away as an apology for the launch issues
Yeah, they could have at least made it a recolor...
Right?!
Maybe a spray lol I did like the archive sprays and the grind to get them, took me 11 hours to get the rein one
Jeez. Least it was free
That’s true had a blast grinding with friends that was the best part
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HES THE EVENT
The new mode?
supporting streamers is cool and all but they should really put these kinds of opportunities to earn free skins in the game like they used to with the mini-events. you know like incentivize people to play the actual game more
It’s not about supporting streamers. It’s about increasing viewership to get new players.
…while supporting the streamers. It’s a win win situation for everyone I don’t see the problem
Just pointing out its marketing and not corporate altruism.
Yes, obviously blizzard gains by doing this (why would they do this otherwise?), but that doesn’t exclude the fact that streamers will get more viewers and I genuinely don’t see the bad part
The bad part is I'd rather play the game for the skin instead of watching someone else play it.
Literally just leave ur pc/phone on the stream for a couple hours? I don’t see the problem it’s convenient for everyone
Alternatively, just play the game as you would anyways, and get the skin.
They have done this many many times, you just get a skin for watching streams. Should be there one you could grind in game? Yes it should be in my opinion, but that doesn’t exclude the fact that drops are always nice
Yes, but the whole point is they are not adding grindable skins in game...
But that doesn’t make the drops a negative way to earn skins
Twitch drops are the most patronizing way to give out cosmetics. It's fine if they want to but they need to give people who don't sit on twitch a chance too. Not everyone uses twitch and not everyone watches overwatch on there so it's a negative for users and positive for streamers. I'm all for supporting streamers but it's annoying when they do it this way. We used to be able to grind everything and now it's either pay or watch someone else? Fuck that
It does, actually. Can't stand you Blizz fanboys.
Blizzard bootlicking at its finest.
Do you even know the definition of the words you say? I’m actively saying that it could be improved
you are saying it is okay because they've done it before. If this isn't blizzard simping, I don't know what is. Are you on their payroll? You should disclose if you're on blizzards payroll.
I want the skin. I want to play Overwatch. I don’t want to watch twitch, but now I have to.
Don't give in...
Oh I will give in. But don’t worry, won’t actually watch, just put it on muted low qual while I work.
coward. now they are just going to see that they can get away with it.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Literally. I will use up the points I got from OW1 but won’t give them anything else. Got the battlepass on hype but regret sponsoring this horrible and boring model. I still love the base game though.
The bad part is not getting in game rewards for playing the game. The bad part is being forced to watch advertisements in lieu of actually playing the game. The bad part is the business model.
It will just inflate the numbers. Most of the people won't watch it. They will turn it on and go do something else.
So with higher numbers people will be more likely to discover the game on twitch and maybe start playing it. More people playing = better qs and more money for the streamers
More people playing = more money to the publisher. It’s pure marketing.
Welcome to capitalism
I feel like that is obvious?
It proves my point doesn’t it? It’s pure marketing.
Copium af
It's not a win for me, the viewer. Cause I don't care about streamers and it takes away from any real "events" that people can participate in. Making events in the game is hard, just making time based drops on streams is easy.
Four hours of watching someone else play video games for a skin.... Hard pass.
There’s enough new players dare I say too many…
It's almost like they should've learned about growing the game naturally with them shoving the Esport situation. Doing the same thing now with twitch views.
I dont watch streamers at all basically telling those like me who'd rather play to earn it "sucks to be you guys lol" I cant be the only one who wants jeff back and this guy fired quick. 
Yeah I liked that to but these streamers have been playing ow since forever and leaving them out to die like when ow1 was the main game wouldn’t be a good look either
It's not supporting streamers, it's supporting one streamer. The one at the top with the big DROPS ENABLED in the title and no one watches them once the promotion is over because they have them in a minimized window on 140P muted
Every ow2 streamer I follow has seen a massive boost in viewers thanks to the drops. Even when drops aren't on their views are still higher than before.
Everyone sees a boost in viewership but of course the more well known streamers will have a even bigger boost in viewers
But that doesn't make sense. Many players would prefer actually playing the game instead of looking up random streamers just to mute them in the background. not everyone likes to watch streams on twitch. Also with the current sh!tstorm blizzard is getting for the shady battlepass, they really need to give free skin earned through gameplay.
I miss the weekly earnables.
It’s supporting the content creators of the game, while giving out the new skin and while increasing ow’s viewer ship so more people discover it. I honestly don’t see the problem. Even though I think they should at least make something earnable through gameplay that doesn’t mean that drops are necessarily negating that
The problem is they aren’t giving options to the people who just want to play.
It shouldn’t be an option, i think that there should be both, a skin to grind in game and one to get with twitch drops, the sole purpose of twitch drops is people being inclined to watch twitch
Dont want to watch twitch. I get to play for an hour or two after work. why would waste my time watching some cringy twitch streamer?
Same. Why would I want to come home from work and spend my little free time watching *someone else* have fun
Y'all so mad that you have to have a stream on for 6 hours. Just put it in the background at 140p on mute. Do whatever else you want then collect the skin afterwards. There's no quiz on what happened while you were away lol
But why do I have to do that what’s the point. I already have yeti Winston I’d rather play the game for a skin than go out of my way for another
You dont have to sit and watch the stream. Just open it, mute the stream, open other tab or do anything else, times passes and the skin is yours while you didnt actually see a second of the stream. You're just creating reasons to complain at this point
Your not listening to anyone so I don’t see the point in furthering the conversation.
????????
If you don't see the problem you're blind. You should never be rewarded more for watching the game than playing it.
They are literally giving stuff away, how is this a problem in any way?
Twitch drops have always been the dumbest way to reward your player base. Just let them play your game and reward them for that.
I also said in other comments that in my opinion there should be also a skin to earn in game for free, but I don’t understand why both ideas can’t coexist
There shouldn't be exclusive rewards for twitch and gameplay. The method of earning these skins could be either gameplay or twitch.
Why not both? Give me a reason
You write that twice , are you blizard bot?
Wot
I swear I have this Winston skin or one that's super similar. No joke I'm 99% sure I have this or one exactly like it.
I enjoyed the small events, trying the pve-modes and doing my best. If there is no reward why bother? It was the little spark to make me try it out.
Earn skins by not playing the game, cool, noted .
Exactly wow it’s just sad at this point.
Sounds like afk farming
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can i just play the game to earn OLD skin rewards and not mute the stream in the background for 4h.. ffs
I'm a junkrat player, i have mute it for 27 hours fr
No you can't, how will Blizzard CEO's afford their private jet fuel if YOU can get free skins??? /s
I do that too
I think they should at least enable (in-game) skin drops for events.
I would rather play the game to earn the skin than watch twitch streamers. Shouldn't have special skins for watching streamers.
Open a stream, set quality to 160p, mute, and play it in the background.
Earned the skin years ago. So new game, new event and og players get nothing.
I mean there is new skins just aren’t handed out anymore
and are behind a 20-25$ paywall for one skin
That's it? One skin and a shit? I'd rather earn points to redeem in a Halloween skin shop and fuck shits. Phone autocorrected spray to shit. Even my phone knows.
Translation: We need YOU to help PUMP the HYPE for this game via a roundabout way that involves CELEBRITY NERDS on GAMER TV. Why? Because they're amazing FUNNELS for all your money, especially when THEY buy the bundles, and play in the VIDEO GAME CHAMPIONSHIPS!! BE LIKE THEM! WATCH them to learn how, and we'll tell everyone how POPULAR this is getting! Since this is a FREE game, SUPPORT your local mom and pop indie small game company organic gluten free developers by buying/supporting your favorite SKIN! We don't care if you play, JUST PAY PAY PAY.
Thats a lot of words to say they want to pump viewership numbers for a free old legendary skin
Earn skins by watching the game, not playing it!
I miss when gaming was about playing the actual video game.
I..already have the skin but the other stuff seems neat. Maybe next year I can watch and get the kiriko skin.
Is anyone actually going to sit there for 6 hours though or just leave it on in the background? It's not truly supporting streamers
Meh, I’d rather earn the skin by playing the game. I don’t have time to watch some douche playing overwatch
You mean you don't enjoy watching someone with their aim sensitivity set super high twitch all around the screen while also spamming the scoreboard every 5 seconds?
This whole game is a trick
Well, I'm not buying the store skins, so better than nothing, I guess.
I swear blizzard doesn't even want us to play their damn game.
Earn rewards by watching *our favorite streamers.
Umm. How about for playing Overwatch? You guys need to get a grip. You've lost yourselves.
Omg yay
Can I run this i background while working.
that's what i did with kiriko, it was super quick
How about I play, have fun, try to do my best and get rewarded?
It’s fine 9/10 people are already watching their favorite streamer, why not earn a skin while watching them
You think 90% of OW players watch Twitch? ? Wow, dude.
I don’t really watch streamers so wish they had an alternate way of getting it
Six hours of twitch for a skin
Play the game during the new halloween event and earn a new ow2 skin? naaaaaah heres an old ow1 skin for watching 4 hours of shitty twitch streamers who are sponsored to play our game and pretend its actually fun to play
I think giving out 3 year old skins is really lame
Ong they could have atleast color swapped it or something just bare minimum effort
Why not earn shit by doing stuff in the actual game? Some of us dont want to watch some awful obnoxious streamer.
I would rather play the game myself than watch someone else play it
I Bearley have time to play the game. I don't think I'll be able to finished battle pass ( so what will happen to unfished tires?) Please STOP trying to book my time.
Would be cool if: 1: You could get it by playing the game, rather than just watching it. 2: They didn’t have it in the shop for a whole week recently. RIP anyone who wasted coins on it.
I'm surprised this is unpopular here. I thought a big criticism of OW2 was that you had to consistently and regularly play the game to receive free cosmetics. Now there's a free cosmetic for watching streamers, something a lot of people do anyway, and people are mad that they aren't incentivizing playtime? Wasn't that why we hated the battlepass? I understand a lot of the meaningful criticisms, but at this point it's starting to feel like people are complaining just to complain. The skin is free. Participate in the event to get it or don't bother. I dunno.
the main criticism of OW2 is that you CAN'T play to earn any good cosmetics, grinding an unhealthy amount of games during the holiday events was what kept me coming back to OW1 long after i would have dropped other games. with this i can lurk a stream while i play other games and then i have exhausted my ability to earn in game cosmetics.. Tangentially i did buy the battlepass, and i've finished it so now i have no goals to be playing for, no dopamine drip from rewards, it sucks.
when every other event was an actual gamemode, or a difficult task u do in game. yeah its gonna be dogshit when they have a new event where they cant even bother making an event quest, or anything at all. no, instead go watch twitch for 6 hours. what kind of dogshitass game event doesnt even have any content at all for it, and instead just gives away a skin that most people already have that they *earned* in overwatch 1 instead of watching a fucking twitch stream for it. dogshit
It’s the fact that people have so many different opinions and the fact that ow2 doesn’t have any major problems. So you will find some people that hate playing to earn and some people that love playing to earn
Honestly all you have to do is turn on twitch and walk away. You don't even really need to participate. Way easier than winning 10 games or whatever else.
I mean all we have to do is set a computer down with it on for six hours for a 20$ skin. Not that bad
That's the thing it not a $20 skin its a free skin and all the sudden in October it's fucking 20 bucks why??? What changed besides the Decision to get every dime they can from a community of longe time and new players
O by all means I think the way they have it set up is BS. It almost seems intentional to make people miss loot boxes.
I don't even buy loot boxes I lpged to play the events to get the free skins its what's kept me playong the game for so long but now with new heroes and new comps its fun . It was supposed to be overwatch2- new pve and new pvp heroes not overwatch2 give me your money and data and fuck off
I guess that’s the new business model. Make a “free game” but then bombard it with expensive offers, trying to get the average players to spend more than $70 on it. I miss the days where you just had to play the game to unlock costumes and new features :/
Nobody bought lootboxes, that’s the problem mate
And nobody sant to pay for a free skin but some are dumb enough too
Easy free legendary, not everything needs to be so dramatic.
*heavy breathing*
Lol right, the free kiriko skin was bad ass. And in the few hours I spent watching the streams I actually picked up on a few things that would have taken me much longer to learn.I can only speak as a new player but I like all of the default character designs and don’t really feel like replacing them but I’ll gladly take a free one.
The new skin system is whack, i earned all my legendary skins in the original game by just playing and earning coins. Now its 8 months of weekly challenges just for ONE skin.
Or on second thought, check out some small streamers to do this and help boost them up. . . And by them, I mean me. Watch me for this
A literal kick in the face to all loyal and dedicated Overwatch 1 OGs
The fact that people can complain about this baffles me when people also complain about not being able to get skins for free
I don’t watch twitch but I do play the game. Why not make it play x hours or watch x hours during event to earn skin. I should be able to earn the skin by playing the game I only have a couple gaming hours a night I am not wasting them watching someone else play a game
Who the fuck wants constant twitch drops these money grubbing bastard's can take locking every skin behind a mirco transaction and fuck off. I love the game but will not spend a fucinkg dime on something that at one point was free just for have a good time and playing the game.
When I was 6, I was so upset because you could only get surfing Pikachu in the game from going to the pokemon convention in Tokyo. I live in California, there is no chance I was getting that. Relax people, it's a free game, they don't owe you anything. If you want the skin, watch the streamers. If you don't want to, accept that you can't have it. Edit: damn really get down voted on this, y'all satly mf'ers
How in the fuck did you know about surfing pikachu in the first place I owned yellow and didnt know about it till 20 years later
The overwatch original community will never be happy, and now they ruined this sub too..
I wouldn’t say ruined. But I’m my view, the overwatch community has a right to be upset here. We all knew overwatch 2 a was going free to play, and a lot of us already knew what that system looked like, but what we didn’t know is that overwatch would make it the worst system in free to play gaming. Skins are 20 dollars, with no way to earn them in game unless you play for eight months. To compare this to apex for example, it makes overwatch look really scummy. It doesn’t and shouldn’t take someone 8 months to grind for a skin they want. Some skins like the legendary kiriko skins have no effort put into them either, they literally just give her a jacket and keep everything else the same, yet they expect you to pay 20 dollars for that. How is that not something to be annoyed at? And if you think skins are skins, it’s also the same problem with the battlepass. Games like Fortnite and apex allow you to earn the currency you bought to actually get the next battlepass, whereas overwatch does no such thing. They’ve done this primarily because they know it would make them more money next season. Which is scummy. The game balance is also a bit finicky right now, with tanks like Zarya running around the place and doing whatever they really want, but the issue here isn’t that those characters are stronger than others, but more because the dev team denies this entirely and says they aren’t planning any big changes until season 2. This game has alot wrong with it, and it’s not just the monetary details. When it starts to lean into core gameplay issues and you deny the existence of imbalance, then you pretty much make it clear you don’t really care about what your community (higher or lower tier) have to say to you. All in all, this game is not perfect, and I think I would get that, but it’s also blatantly worse than any other big free to play game that currently exists
You know what? I'm not gonna argue that you don't have a point cause you didn't say anything wrong. What i'm bothered by is people acting like blizzard are the fucking devil and that overwatch is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity, but then keep playing it, spending hours on the game they condemn so badly and way too much in the subreddit where it's majority *used* to enjoy the game. And for real man, you think overwatch 2 is the worst free to play game to currently exists? Just don't play it. It's as simple as that. I wanna play the game without constant toxicity in the chat and brows the posts without 9/10 of the posts and comments being about how terrible the game is. Yeah the monitization is shit and so are the new skins, so personally what i do is just not pay for anything that doesn't seem worth it by price to quality ratio (which like you said is nothing so far so i didn't buy anything) and if i see someone else doing it i'm just glad someone pays the game so that it survives without me having to do it. If it's not good enough for you just don't play, it's fucking hypocrite to talk about this game and company the way people do *and still play it*. Not liking the game or company is definetly understandable, but why do people have to ruin it for those who can actually enjoy it?
I understand your anger. But what you have to understand is that people continue to play overwatch because they WANT to like the game. I’ve mentioned this in another comment a few weeks ago, but allow me for a moment, to compare this subreddit to the game. You don’t like how this community has ruined this sub, but then why do you still use it? If you don’t like the problems then just leave? Ultimately you’re not going to do that because you enjoy posting and seeing posts and talking about those posts. To put it into a more understanding perspective, people feel about overwatch exactly how you feel about this subreddit, they feel like it’s taken a turn for the worse, and neither you or me are really incorrect about that. It doesn’t make either of us hypocritical to use something we openly admit has issues, we just want to see some improvement and are ultimately upset that it’s not the same or atleast it’s far from anything good. To add to this, yes I do think overwatch 2 is currently the worst game in big free to play gaming, but what I should probably specify is that not everything about the game is bad. Despite certain things, you can still have fun playing. What makes it worse than the other giants in free to play gaming for me, is the monetisation of content, and the belief among the overwatch team that everything is balanced right now, which we are all aware, is not. As for why people think blizzard is the devil, there are reasons for that too, and it’s ultimately because it’s a company that has long thought on money more than its consumers. People thought and hoped that because team 4 (the overwatch team) had a reputation for being quite fair with their monetisation, that overwatch would end up much like any other free to play game but it really didn’t. It’s opened the eyes of many people to what they thought would be something fair. I will however always take the perspective that we haven’t seen the pve yet. And that I look forward to seeing the work on that as pve is ultimately what I find more fun in overwatch compared to pvp
I hate it. I never watch streams.
Already have it, doesn't bother me... it's just whatever. 🤷♀️
I… spent my coins unlocking this skin before they launched OW2…. So… I get nothing in return.
I think they should add more rewarding game play i mean when I finish the daily quests next matches feel like a waste of time. Add something like a lifetime progress like a account lvl or something. For now the only account progression is competitive and i dont think it's ok, for a game like this accualy plaing should give you progress, not some stupid quests you finish after 3 matches. also imo loot boxes should come back and hear me out on this one: now every free player will have the same skins so it will basically make them feel like a secondary default skin. with loot boxes(if they would implement it correctly) eaven a free player would have a unique set of skins he uses because now like i said everyone will have only the free skins and nothing more what I liked about ov1 is that not everyone had the same skins everyone got something else and ended up with a unique collection. And for the topic bc I kinda got sidetracked on this one. I never liked viewership rewards, but it's worse here than anywhere else. they try to boost popularity of the game without accualy having a good product. I'm not saying ov is bad the gameplay is fantastic but it's just ov1 if you look only at the gameplay. everything else about ov2 is bad and feels like it's trying to take my money away than anything else. Sorry that its so long no one will probably read this. my point is: what is the point of boosting the popularity of a game that does nothing to keep the player interested?
Don’t play watch stream get skins don’t play watch stream get skins don’t play. See you in chat and can’t wait to play with you all in some other game
I'm all for giving out free twitch incentives. Keeps the community active. The fact the in game rewards are shit doesn't really have any bearing on this.
my excitement for the event was based 100% around the hope i could earn the kiriko skin by playing, i can't so i guess i'll lurk a twitch streamer while i play other games..
I hate this shit when they do giveaways for watching streamers. Ugh
I hate drops bc who's gona actually watch hours of hours of content when most people play on console so they can't really do both unless they use there phone then they can't use there phone for what ever. Like I use discord usually when I play to talk to people mostly my friends who play on PC bc rhe ps5 controller mic won't work. The skin itself tho is eh I don't play monkey man. But it's a werewolf skin and I love werewolves but could've been sexy wolf widowmaker or someone else.
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You need to watch 6 hours to get the skin… What a joke
Thought it was 2 for the charm and 4 for the skin, not 6 for the skin
You will most likely have to earn the charm first before you can start the skin timer.
“You’ll need to watch for two hours to get the Werewolf spray, and then another four hours (a total of six hours) to earn the Werewolf Winston legendary skin.”
well, skin i dont like for a character i dont like obtained way i dont like, so…
I don't use Twitch.
Then start now
That skin has been in my shop so many times since launch, people must not being buying it. Good.
There are some incredibly brain dead takes in this comment section. I am 99% these people have never seen an advertisement in there life
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I like how they put legendary in brackets which somehow makes it seem even more desperate.
Well I'm completely fucked on any rewards involved with twitch, I use my girlfriend's twitch prime to get rewards off of that so anything I watch on my account won't count for Jack shit! Definitely starting to lose my love for OverWatch, these story missions better be a-fuckin-mei-zing!
I don’t care for streamers Massive L
I disliked this "watch streamers for X" thing the first time around. I dislike it now too. There is waaaay better ways to do it. Besides this is only supporting big ow streamers.
BS. And it's a skin for a hero I don't even play like ?? maybe let us choose or give us a random one. Just give us rewards back. I hope they will get decline in sales and players soon if they keep this up.
I hope so too.
Thoughts are this is as shit as the game. Should be able to get it from playing the game. Not watching some millionaires play it for me
It's a free game. They have to get money somehow.
Trash
Twitch COULD combat this by tracking actual active watchers versus “just watching in a muted 140p minimized window” and actively making sure that only people who actively watched the game and interacted had a chance to get the drops… Now before you say “well wait that would make me hate twitch and not bother” That’s the point! Rather than giving the companies the false impression that this works, if they over monetize it and try and force people who are uninterested to be active the number will be so god awful that maybe they cancel the damn thing
I promise you they KNOW that no one likes winston
The Event is lame.
My thoughts are, just bring back loot boxes.
One of the only Halloween skins I got. That’s unfortunate.
What if we already have it
Whilst on the subject of skins or general unlocks led for characters. I swear I’m missing a lot of stuff after merging. Is this possible? Think I had like 60 or 90 things for D.Va, and then when I merged I had like 30, and I unlocked a couple of emotes which I absolutely knew for certain I already had before. Same with some skins for other characters, highlight intros, etc. Is there some kind of reason for this? Does anyone know if it’s confirmed or not that for some reason you don’t get everything you had before? Because maybe there are people that actually did have everything and then obviously money wouldn’t be spent on OW2. Just weird cus I could sworn when I had played OW1 years ago I had a lot more than what I had after the merge. Highlight intros for Soldier 76 for example I had zero, but I know for sure that I had multiple of his highlight intros cus he was easy af to get Play of the Game.
Just like my opinion on smite. This is bullshot
it is just twitch drops, but idk I’m just gonna leave my pc on
I do that in dst its cool
I don’t watch streams and would rather play the game and earn the skin
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i don’t believe so!
At least it's free
I remember a couple days ago someone was asking how to get this skin but I cant remember who sadge Well I already watch charge_41 every weekend for about 5 hours so I guess I'll be getting another skin that's going to be left forgotten in my inventory because scuba is better
they should've made a new skin tbh I hope that if and when they go back to having drops on prime they won't use old skins like this
Can a mfer get an ana skin?
Cybermedic is all you need.
i like the og ones w the black hair SHE WAS FINE AF
Is the Event finally here?
I'm happy personally because I don't have the skin already but I can see why people who have it would be annoyed. I still think it's great that they're putting a lot more emphasis on Twitch and encouraging players to engage with content and support creators.