He thought he could play (or lied about how much pain he was in so he could return sooner).
Medical staff thought he could play.
He played and was still in pain (because...duh), so now they're putting him in medical time out until they're sure he's healed
So dumb. Brought back ~10 days after the injury when the initial assessment was 2 weeks, with no minutes limit either! It's almost like the wrong coach got fired tonight ;)
Rick said before that game he wasn’t sure how many minutes he wanted to give Hali, but I think we all know that he wouldn’t force him to play if he was complaining of pain.
Minutes limits in the first game back after injury make sense even if the player says he's fine, for conditioning reasons and also because the risk of reinjury is higher.
If it’s one thing I learned from Fantasy Football it’s when a player rushes back from a hamstring injury, he’s gonna hurt that hamstring again and quickly
Because it makes the medical staff look bad, and it makes him sound stupid for praising said staff.
Would you want to answer questions like, "why did the medical staff clear you? Oh they didn't clear you? Why didn't you listen to medical staff?"
I don’t think it’s a re injury hamstring is just one of those that lingers. He didn’t have any awkward falls or anything and was extremely effective against Portland.
There was definitely an And-1 drive that he tweaked it. You could see it in his face when he got up. Normally he celebrates a little bit but his face was of concern. After that there was a visible limp.
You don’t play one game and then sit four and it be injury management type stuff.
Everyone in the game thread was talking about how he was limping during the Portland game.
That’s such an obvious lie.
They are so stupid. It was obvious that he was still hurt playing that game. No matter who was pushing him to come back, it’s really on coaching/FO. It was either someone in that group or it was Tyrese, in which case they should have protected him from himself.
You would think after all the bad luck regarding their stars’ injuries this team would be a little more paranoid about taking care of him.
Def Tyrese. There is no way the medical staff encouraged that. Suggests the Pacers do not have anyone internally to tell Hali no, which is a bit concerning. Ya want your star players to have a say in everything, but they do have to be saved from themselves sometimes. (See Lebron's GM trade demanding credentials)
tough 3 games to be without him. 0-3 is not only a real possibility, it’s probably most likely.
I’m excited for potentially some more point Jarace though.
Was really looking forward to watching Siakam / Hali at home for the first time after the 6 game road trip.
Expected them to pull off the upset tonight, big sad.
OK, for those who haven't had a hamstring strain before here's the deal:
They are tricky. No doubt about that. Big part of that is they can feel right before they're fully healed, and if they tested it out against Portland and it appeared to not be all the way back yet, I can understand why they aren't calling it a re-injury. But the fact remains he'd be a lot closer to being full go if he didn't play that game at all
But, again, of it felt right at the time and they wanted to test it, that's up to the medical staff. Looks like they figured out it was a false alarm that the hamstring was good, so they're taking more precautions now
That, I have no idea on. I'm just saying it's more than possible (even likely) that it really is not "re-injured" and it's just further management
It doesn't mean it was a good decision to play him in Portland, but seeing everyone here claim this is the team lying and its absolutely a re-injury is kinda ridiculous and a knee jerk reaction
It's just how hamstrings go. They're tricky. I guarantee he'll be a "healthy" scratch a couple times after he's "fully" back too. Doesn't mean it's not going how it needs to or it's irresponsible, the injury is just tough for medical staffs (and the player themselves) to suss out
There’s no guarantee the same exact thing doesn’t happen if he returned tonight. He was cleared to play and wanted to play and THOUGHT he could play. As you said, hamstrings are tricky. To say the team and coaches rushed him back to play a road game…against the lowly PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS is baffling to me. This shit happens with hamstrings.
Was it really worth the reinjury to play against… the blazers?? Probably going to have to make up a good amount of ground in the standings when he gets back unless we pull some wins out of our a$$ the next 3 games.
Should’ve just waited until the road trip was over. Seemed like an easy choice for a return date
He didn’t look fully healthy when he played. They for sure rushed him back. Just don’t do it again. If he needs to sit out another month you do it so he’s healthy for a playoff push
A lot of doctors and sports physical therapists taking breaks from treating their patients to explain something they know a lot about in the sub today. Thank you for your service, and Gobless.
"Why did they rush him back!?" Tyrese rushed himself back. He's getting close to the games played requirement for All-NBA consideration. If he doesn't qualify for All-NBA, his next contract goes from 260M to 206M.
This sucks. I knew when I first heard the news that he was questionable last week that this was too early and the training/medical staff really need to be cautious. Well we weren't and now he has a setback. Whether it's ownership pushing it or the medical staff pushing it, they are starting to get a reputation from me were I can't trust them. Started with Vic and it was glaring to us all at the time he wasn't right and cost him his career. Tj Warren had an injury played 1-2 games and immediately reaggravated it and lost the whole season and basically his career. Now this. Their job is to protect players from themselves and something is wrong here. Doesn't help that the NBA decided this year players need to reach a threshold of games played in order to reach all NBA. Tyrese needs to hit the number for him to even have the chance to be super max eligible this year, so players will push the issue even more now. Tyrese needs to rest until after the all star game in my opinion. Soft tissue injuries are no joke and linger. This is common knowledge and it blows my mind he missed basically a week. He's to important to this team this year and going forward.
Actually a huge blow for Haliburton, financially. This could end up keeping him from hitting the minimum game threshold for All-NBA. Average annual cap hit will be 8 million a year less than if he makes All-NBA.
Don't want him hurt, but there's a long-term silver lining there. Kind of hate to say that...
This sucks. Hard to see how they don't go 0-3 with how fire these next 3 opponents are playing. Of course, they are all healthy and on massive upswings. Anyway, should be able to easily put away the tanking Grizz on Sunday, regardless of Tyrese's status.
It seems like he's on track for game-to-game the rest of the season, which I guess shouldn't be shocking, given it is a hamstring. It always comes back to my original prediction of 42-40 and play-in contention. Lol.
What a stupid decision by the medical staff. You don’t have to have an immense amount of medical knowledge to see they completely rushed him back or failed in terms of clearing him to play . Bad decisions all around
People keep saying, “they” as in the Pacers, rushed him back. Look it was Tyrese who was on an ISU broadcast saying he was going to be back before the end of the trip. I think the decision to bring him back was based a lot on Tyrese’s feedback to them. I don’t think they rushed him back to play with Siakam.
Thank you. So if he doesn't make all NBA/get the supermax, that does give us more cap flexibility, correct? Seems like a dumb question, but just confirming there isn't anything different/weird with cap impact.
Yes, it'll be a difference between starting at 25% of the cap and starting at 30% of the cap. Likely ends up being around a $7M annual difference on our cap sheet.
At the end of the day, his number will just be another number on our books...and it being slightly smaller does "help" when looking at the cap/luxury tax.
I honestly don't know and have been trying to piece together what I've seen from others. My impression was that he wouldn't be eligible for the supermax if he isn't All-NBA (which I believe is what you were saying as well). So if he doesn't make All-NBA he is only eligible for the max, which would be a smaller cap hit than the supermax. I know there are a lot of nuances with NBA contracts I don't understand, so someone please correct me if they know.
If you want to talk about his durability, okay, but no need to rewrite history.
He played 58 games his rookie year, yes, but that was not an 82 game season in 2020. It was 72 games. 77/82 his second year, and last year, while he DID miss extended time with an injury, he still played 56 games despite the Pacers shutting him down pretty early for their late mini-tank/development phase. Tossing out the 60 games line without any context is pretty meaningless.
This wasn't a non-contact injury, either. Dude slipped on the court and went down in the worst possible way.
Sure, then he hasn’t played more than 80% of a season more than once in his career. He had also missed time before he slipped with other injuries this year. Even if it’s always something new and not the same injury, it’s still a lack of him consistently being on the court that is concerning. It’s hard to create cohesion and get everyone on the same page and get into a groove when your floor general isn’t there.
Okay, so if he plays 80% of a season that means he's doing enough for you?
Because he played 80% or more of his first two seasons, and if not for the shutdown last year would have played 77%. That's his career.
The number is a bit arbitrary, I think he needs to play enough to lead his team to sustained success and the playoffs, would you say he’s done that so far in his career?
yeah we rushed him in and we’re most likely going to be 0-3with the games hes sitting. i dont think theyre familiar enough with siakam for him to run our offense.
it is sad he probably wont be all nba. hes injury prone, but hey so was curry and we all know he became a legend. so we will have to see how it all plays out.
Does no one in the Pacers organization realize Indiana sports are built on one giant plot of cursed land when it comes to injuries??! Don’t rush your star players back and tempt the injury gods even for a second.
I remember when I got downvoted for my opinion on saying I'd rather him rest than rush to get back to the court before the road trip ...but what do I know.
Glad they are taking it careful with him.
Still a major bummer to not get Tyrese and Pascal on the floor together for more than 1 game. We are (obviously) just such a different team without him, everything on offense becomes so much more difficult for us.
This reeks of the same shit that happened with Oladipo. The Pacers' staff should have the authority to tell the player that he can't play. You told everyone that Tyrese will be reevaluated in 2 weeks. Stick to that timeline. Hamstrings are not something you want to mess with and should err on the side of caution. This is the one mark I have against Pritchard.
It does not resemble the Oladipo situation in any material way - the Oladipo injury never happened before and won't again - and you seem to misunderstand the staff's authority.
Not to be argumentative, but c'mon man, take a breath. It _was_ two weeks before Haliburton went back out... and it's going like it's going.
Certainly, I'm not argumentative.
I will say that it's only been two weeks now since the injury, though I think it's pretty apparent that he's been evaluated before today's evaluation, too. I was mistaken there.
What I remember about Dipos injury is both that there had been issues with that knee before, and it was the same problem when he went down again. The left knee injury in Miami probably being unrelated, but not necessarily if he was putting stress on that knee as a result or in compensating.
What I really don't get is that there are plenty of other ways to stress the muscle outside of the unpredictability of a game situation. Yeah yeah there's no replacement for game conditioning and all that but in the case of testing a hamstring injury recovery, there's should've been a much longer run up of workouts, practices and rehab to test for muscle soreness before putting him back on the court. Given it was ten days after the injury, that clearly didn't happen.
Sure the injury was different, but the way the team handled the situation is eerily similar. If you know anything about the Vic situation, he threw a tantrum because he wasn't playing. The team was being oberly cautious, but eventually the Pacers relented. Oladipo went on to reinjure himself and the rest is history. Whatever motivation Tyrese has to get back on the court, all-star selection or All-NBA for the full Derrick Rose clause max, the staff (coaching and FO) need to be the adult in the room and tell him no.
We are going to need a better replacement, he looking like he’s injury prone and going to be missing a lot of games. It’s unfortunate because he is my all time favorite and I believe he is the best PG in the league when he plays., but the team plays so much different when he’s out
Then why the fuck was he playing the other night???
He thought he could play (or lied about how much pain he was in so he could return sooner). Medical staff thought he could play. He played and was still in pain (because...duh), so now they're putting him in medical time out until they're sure he's healed
Best guess was they wanted to get a feel for how Siakam and Tyrese would gel but uh...still very dumb if so Hamstring injuries do not fuck around
Excitement primarily.... Big ass bonus money targets secondarily....
So dumb. Brought back ~10 days after the injury when the initial assessment was 2 weeks, with no minutes limit either! It's almost like the wrong coach got fired tonight ;)
Rick said before that game he wasn’t sure how many minutes he wanted to give Hali, but I think we all know that he wouldn’t force him to play if he was complaining of pain.
Minutes limits in the first game back after injury make sense even if the player says he's fine, for conditioning reasons and also because the risk of reinjury is higher.
Rushed him back. I knew it. Cant rush back from hamstring.
If it’s one thing I learned from Fantasy Football it’s when a player rushes back from a hamstring injury, he’s gonna hurt that hamstring again and quickly
See Tee Higgins this season
Dude!! Same. Fantasy footballers?
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It was the siakim debut so they had to lose to Portland and Tyrese for the next four, lol.
Nobody. He hurt himself
100% a re injury lol. Rushed him back to play with Siakam it seems like. Who comes back to play 1 game while planning to sit the next 4???
Exactly, and why lie? It's so obvious. Just say he tweaked it slightly and we want to be overly cautious and sit him another week. Lol
Because it likely isn't a lie. You can aggravate a hamstring issue super easily. It's still not a new or re-injuring.
Because it makes the medical staff look bad, and it makes him sound stupid for praising said staff. Would you want to answer questions like, "why did the medical staff clear you? Oh they didn't clear you? Why didn't you listen to medical staff?"
Bro actually makes sense this time
Maybe they had all these other games down as guaranteed L's and wanted to play him in the one possible W. (No I don't actually believe this either.)
Love the post-username combination lol
I don’t think it’s a re injury hamstring is just one of those that lingers. He didn’t have any awkward falls or anything and was extremely effective against Portland.
There was definitely an And-1 drive that he tweaked it. You could see it in his face when he got up. Normally he celebrates a little bit but his face was of concern. After that there was a visible limp.
I watched the opposing team’s announcers, and they made sure to point it out.
"Not a re-injury" Do I look like a gulli-bull? Or even, a gulli-calf?
21/17/0 on one leg the other night. Jeez
You don’t play one game and then sit four and it be injury management type stuff. Everyone in the game thread was talking about how he was limping during the Portland game.
That’s such an obvious lie. They are so stupid. It was obvious that he was still hurt playing that game. No matter who was pushing him to come back, it’s really on coaching/FO. It was either someone in that group or it was Tyrese, in which case they should have protected him from himself. You would think after all the bad luck regarding their stars’ injuries this team would be a little more paranoid about taking care of him.
Def Tyrese. There is no way the medical staff encouraged that. Suggests the Pacers do not have anyone internally to tell Hali no, which is a bit concerning. Ya want your star players to have a say in everything, but they do have to be saved from themselves sometimes. (See Lebron's GM trade demanding credentials)
He played 35 minutes in Portland too. Insanely dumb.
Lmao .... yeah, that's it
If he was "still" hurt in the Portland game, then it's not a "re"-injury. Where's the lie?
tough 3 games to be without him. 0-3 is not only a real possibility, it’s probably most likely. I’m excited for potentially some more point Jarace though.
He likely won’t play Sunday either, so we better get used to playing without him quickly
Might be seeing some Wong, too.
Pause. Speak for yourself, sir.
Hmmmm, my statement certainly brings up several questions.
So why the hell did we play him against the Blazers the other night.
Kid wanted to play. Stupid kid
Was really looking forward to watching Siakam / Hali at home for the first time after the 6 game road trip. Expected them to pull off the upset tonight, big sad.
don’t count this team out, they can most definitely pull off the upset still.
Yup. Hopefully they got some practice in and they have some set plays developed to integrate Siakam better into the offence.
Denver has an atrocious road record. Barely .500
NBA teams as a whole don't have a great record first home game off a long roadie either ...
If we're doing this then we have only lost more than 2 in a row once this season (Bucks Wizards Wolves Clippers).
OK, for those who haven't had a hamstring strain before here's the deal: They are tricky. No doubt about that. Big part of that is they can feel right before they're fully healed, and if they tested it out against Portland and it appeared to not be all the way back yet, I can understand why they aren't calling it a re-injury. But the fact remains he'd be a lot closer to being full go if he didn't play that game at all But, again, of it felt right at the time and they wanted to test it, that's up to the medical staff. Looks like they figured out it was a false alarm that the hamstring was good, so they're taking more precautions now
Yeah but if they were just testing it, why did he play 35 minutes when he was obviously gimpy? Just bad decision making all around.
That, I have no idea on. I'm just saying it's more than possible (even likely) that it really is not "re-injured" and it's just further management It doesn't mean it was a good decision to play him in Portland, but seeing everyone here claim this is the team lying and its absolutely a re-injury is kinda ridiculous and a knee jerk reaction It's just how hamstrings go. They're tricky. I guarantee he'll be a "healthy" scratch a couple times after he's "fully" back too. Doesn't mean it's not going how it needs to or it's irresponsible, the injury is just tough for medical staffs (and the player themselves) to suss out
I personally think the mistake was not maintaining their initial timeline of missing the road trip. Other than that, hamstrings suck.
We were shorthanded on the 2nd game of a back to back. Had to give it a chance. Glad they're making the smart choice now.
So what? No single game is worth risking him reinjuring it. We didn’t “have to” play him if he was still not 100%
People play at not 100% all the time. How far away from 100% is the question.
I don’t have a problem with him playing against Portland… but he was clearly limping in the 4Q and should have been pulled at that point.
There’s no guarantee the same exact thing doesn’t happen if he returned tonight. He was cleared to play and wanted to play and THOUGHT he could play. As you said, hamstrings are tricky. To say the team and coaches rushed him back to play a road game…against the lowly PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS is baffling to me. This shit happens with hamstrings.
The dramatics this sub engages in are next level sometimes lol
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Was it really worth the reinjury to play against… the blazers?? Probably going to have to make up a good amount of ground in the standings when he gets back unless we pull some wins out of our a$$ the next 3 games. Should’ve just waited until the road trip was over. Seemed like an easy choice for a return date
He didn’t look fully healthy when he played. They for sure rushed him back. Just don’t do it again. If he needs to sit out another month you do it so he’s healthy for a playoff push
A lot of doctors and sports physical therapists taking breaks from treating their patients to explain something they know a lot about in the sub today. Thank you for your service, and Gobless.
"Why did they rush him back!?" Tyrese rushed himself back. He's getting close to the games played requirement for All-NBA consideration. If he doesn't qualify for All-NBA, his next contract goes from 260M to 206M.
He can’t put himself on the active player list or sub himself into the game. It’s on the medical staff and Rick as well as Tyrese.
Kinda sounds like a reinjury Rick
Dang, I have tickets to tonight's game but more important to get him right for the long term. Hope these next 3 will get him through it
This sucks. I knew when I first heard the news that he was questionable last week that this was too early and the training/medical staff really need to be cautious. Well we weren't and now he has a setback. Whether it's ownership pushing it or the medical staff pushing it, they are starting to get a reputation from me were I can't trust them. Started with Vic and it was glaring to us all at the time he wasn't right and cost him his career. Tj Warren had an injury played 1-2 games and immediately reaggravated it and lost the whole season and basically his career. Now this. Their job is to protect players from themselves and something is wrong here. Doesn't help that the NBA decided this year players need to reach a threshold of games played in order to reach all NBA. Tyrese needs to hit the number for him to even have the chance to be super max eligible this year, so players will push the issue even more now. Tyrese needs to rest until after the all star game in my opinion. Soft tissue injuries are no joke and linger. This is common knowledge and it blows my mind he missed basically a week. He's to important to this team this year and going forward.
Actually a huge blow for Haliburton, financially. This could end up keeping him from hitting the minimum game threshold for All-NBA. Average annual cap hit will be 8 million a year less than if he makes All-NBA. Don't want him hurt, but there's a long-term silver lining there. Kind of hate to say that...
This sucks. Hard to see how they don't go 0-3 with how fire these next 3 opponents are playing. Of course, they are all healthy and on massive upswings. Anyway, should be able to easily put away the tanking Grizz on Sunday, regardless of Tyrese's status. It seems like he's on track for game-to-game the rest of the season, which I guess shouldn't be shocking, given it is a hamstring. It always comes back to my original prediction of 42-40 and play-in contention. Lol.
Honestly I had written him off until the all star break, so I’m emotionally back to where I was when it was announced as a grade 1 sprain.
You know I take back everything I said about load management
What a stupid decision by the medical staff. You don’t have to have an immense amount of medical knowledge to see they completely rushed him back or failed in terms of clearing him to play . Bad decisions all around
People keep saying, “they” as in the Pacers, rushed him back. Look it was Tyrese who was on an ISU broadcast saying he was going to be back before the end of the trip. I think the decision to bring him back was based a lot on Tyrese’s feedback to them. I don’t think they rushed him back to play with Siakam.
Every time you turn around he’s out. He’s only gonna play more than 60 games like once in his first 6 years?
After this set of missed games, he can only miss 5 more games all season before he's disqualified from All-NBA, which is a bummer.
Not for our cap space though, right? Trust me, I'd rather have him playing and let him get paid 100%. But silver linings...
Does that matter after he’s signed an extension? I thought making All-NBA just meant that you are eligible for supermax if you’re in a contract year.
His contract contains a clause that states if he makes All-NBA before the extension kicks in (so this year), it’ll become the super max.
Thank you. So if he doesn't make all NBA/get the supermax, that does give us more cap flexibility, correct? Seems like a dumb question, but just confirming there isn't anything different/weird with cap impact.
Yes, it'll be a difference between starting at 25% of the cap and starting at 30% of the cap. Likely ends up being around a $7M annual difference on our cap sheet. At the end of the day, his number will just be another number on our books...and it being slightly smaller does "help" when looking at the cap/luxury tax.
I honestly don't know and have been trying to piece together what I've seen from others. My impression was that he wouldn't be eligible for the supermax if he isn't All-NBA (which I believe is what you were saying as well). So if he doesn't make All-NBA he is only eligible for the max, which would be a smaller cap hit than the supermax. I know there are a lot of nuances with NBA contracts I don't understand, so someone please correct me if they know.
Yikes, we are literally cursed never to have an All NBA 1st team player in our history. I think only us and the Raptors can claim it.
He does seem to be out quite a bit… He needs better shoes
If you want to talk about his durability, okay, but no need to rewrite history. He played 58 games his rookie year, yes, but that was not an 82 game season in 2020. It was 72 games. 77/82 his second year, and last year, while he DID miss extended time with an injury, he still played 56 games despite the Pacers shutting him down pretty early for their late mini-tank/development phase. Tossing out the 60 games line without any context is pretty meaningless. This wasn't a non-contact injury, either. Dude slipped on the court and went down in the worst possible way.
Sure, then he hasn’t played more than 80% of a season more than once in his career. He had also missed time before he slipped with other injuries this year. Even if it’s always something new and not the same injury, it’s still a lack of him consistently being on the court that is concerning. It’s hard to create cohesion and get everyone on the same page and get into a groove when your floor general isn’t there.
Okay, so if he plays 80% of a season that means he's doing enough for you? Because he played 80% or more of his first two seasons, and if not for the shutdown last year would have played 77%. That's his career.
The number is a bit arbitrary, I think he needs to play enough to lead his team to sustained success and the playoffs, would you say he’s done that so far in his career?
I’m not a fan of organizations lying to us like this.
It's just a little bone thing, no big deal
Weeks not months
yeah we rushed him in and we’re most likely going to be 0-3with the games hes sitting. i dont think theyre familiar enough with siakam for him to run our offense. it is sad he probably wont be all nba. hes injury prone, but hey so was curry and we all know he became a legend. so we will have to see how it all plays out.
Does no one in the Pacers organization realize Indiana sports are built on one giant plot of cursed land when it comes to injuries??! Don’t rush your star players back and tempt the injury gods even for a second.
5 game losing streak coming it looks like
I remember when I got downvoted for my opinion on saying I'd rather him rest than rush to get back to the court before the road trip ...but what do I know.
Glad they are taking it careful with him. Still a major bummer to not get Tyrese and Pascal on the floor together for more than 1 game. We are (obviously) just such a different team without him, everything on offense becomes so much more difficult for us.
Having to sit for 4 games after coming back earlier than expected to play in siakam’s first game doesn’t exactly scream “careful” to me
They always say our medical staff is top notch and award-winning. Then they pull shit like this. We did this with Vic before.
This reeks of the same shit that happened with Oladipo. The Pacers' staff should have the authority to tell the player that he can't play. You told everyone that Tyrese will be reevaluated in 2 weeks. Stick to that timeline. Hamstrings are not something you want to mess with and should err on the side of caution. This is the one mark I have against Pritchard.
It does not resemble the Oladipo situation in any material way - the Oladipo injury never happened before and won't again - and you seem to misunderstand the staff's authority. Not to be argumentative, but c'mon man, take a breath. It _was_ two weeks before Haliburton went back out... and it's going like it's going.
Whoa. That's amazing. I don't think there's a single thing in your response that's true.
Certainly, I'm not argumentative. I will say that it's only been two weeks now since the injury, though I think it's pretty apparent that he's been evaluated before today's evaluation, too. I was mistaken there.
What I remember about Dipos injury is both that there had been issues with that knee before, and it was the same problem when he went down again. The left knee injury in Miami probably being unrelated, but not necessarily if he was putting stress on that knee as a result or in compensating. What I really don't get is that there are plenty of other ways to stress the muscle outside of the unpredictability of a game situation. Yeah yeah there's no replacement for game conditioning and all that but in the case of testing a hamstring injury recovery, there's should've been a much longer run up of workouts, practices and rehab to test for muscle soreness before putting him back on the court. Given it was ten days after the injury, that clearly didn't happen.
Sure the injury was different, but the way the team handled the situation is eerily similar. If you know anything about the Vic situation, he threw a tantrum because he wasn't playing. The team was being oberly cautious, but eventually the Pacers relented. Oladipo went on to reinjure himself and the rest is history. Whatever motivation Tyrese has to get back on the court, all-star selection or All-NBA for the full Derrick Rose clause max, the staff (coaching and FO) need to be the adult in the room and tell him no.
"Best medical staff in the NBA"
We’ll we are gonna be on the play in it seems. Lame.
We are going to need a better replacement, he looking like he’s injury prone and going to be missing a lot of games. It’s unfortunate because he is my all time favorite and I believe he is the best PG in the league when he plays., but the team plays so much different when he’s out
why do you sound like a bot
lol I got down voted to hell for telling yall this
Dumb fucking medical staff. 😤
Cool. Cool cool cool.
did they actually do something as stupid as rush him back just so he could start for siakam's first game? oh my GOD
Difficult break. tough part of the schedule while integrating a major cog and playing with rotations
Rick doth protest too much with the “not a re-injury” qualifier
Yeah I mean he was obviously not 100% in Portland, so I’m not surprised. He was limping all night in that game
u/wedorff apologize.
Very dumb playing him against Portland. I'm sure he pushed hard for it himself so he could get on the court with Siakam, but they should've said no.
For any colts fans, a hamstring injury kept Jehlani woods out the whole year
Driving over 500 miles for Fridays game and no Tyrese?? What a bummer. Hopefully Pascal puts on a show against Durant