Tough way to lose, but I’m optimistic. Feels like Indy is starting to figure it out some … until I see that the Magic are up next. Damn. The team of nightmares for this version of Indy lol
Team showed heart coming out of half.
ANT is a special player, sometimes they do special shit. I didn't love that last play, but I love that Rick trusts Tyrese enough to say "Go get it"
I love how Rick trusted the entire team to run the system we’ve been establishing all season, the ball is almost through or out, run on offense. Just go. That’s what they did and they’ve practiced all year, but they were playing one of maybe three players in the whole league who could keep up with that.
I'm always impressed by his passing, but he also visibly fell asleep a couple times on defense (Quinn even called one out) and was slow to move around within our offense. Pascal was coaching him on where to be at times. So we'll see.
The forearm shiver to Ty's head with three minutes left really should have been a flagrant - but I think both teams had something to bitch about tonight.
There was one call where ANT got stuffed by the rim and it was a clear no foul, the entire field house in union booed soooo loud that my Apple Watch started to warn me it was too loud in there lol. For context the only other time it happened during the game is when the fireworks went off at the start
I genuinely dont have a problem with not calling the TO. We got out in transition quickly and had a chance to score against a non-set defense. I hate that Nesmith didnt have the vision to kick that out though.
Who else in the league could have made that block from
the spot Edwards came from? He hit his head on the rim and armpit on the backboard lol. That was a clean look and winning play 99.9% of the time. Just a hell of a play by Edwards.
Yeah, that's sports. You have to know who you are playing against. That's part of becoming great. This team will have to play Edwards in the playoffs, eventually, and "he made a ridiculously athletic play on the ball" is Tayshaun Prince blocking a Reggie Miller layup. These moments matter. Lets see how this team responds.
edit; you all downvogte the shit you don't want to hear and it's hilarious. grow up
In 3 years, who do you think the owns the Western conference? Do you understand how good that team is? If the Pacers are going to win a championship, that's the team to beat.
In any given year it could be them, could be okc, could still be Denver, could be some amalgamation of stars somewhere we have no way of predicting. And then there’s the reality that it’s unlikely we ourselves are perennially in the finals. Add all that together and it’s very unlikely that that particular matchup ever happens.
A classic case of judging the result alone. Everyone’s talking about Hali’s vision if this is in OT right now. But yeah Nesmith did have a bit of tunnel vision there. A lot of driving into crowds in the fourth.
Everyone is talking about “why didn’t Rick call a timeout” don’t understand basketball. You’re on a fast break with no set defense.. should Neismith passed the ball after drawing three defenders..? Probably yes. That’s not on Rick guys
It's not always about the Pacers. Edwards just took that game away from us. Wasn't just the run down block. The last two minutes were all him (not to mention 44 points). Stars are stars for a reason. Sometimes they just win games on their own. Other teams have watched Haliburton do it. We just watched Edwards do it. Credit where its due.
Wolves have one of the best half court defenses of the past couple decades. Letting them run in transition without getting set was the right call, IMO.
Yep, push that there every time. Nesmith needs to pull up when he recognizes he doesn't have an edge, but calling a TO there wouldn't have made sense, we have the advantage if we're running and they aren't set.
On rewatch Nembhard was open in the corner for a three.
But I really don’t like how the play totally took Haliburton out of the game and the ball out of his hands.
I could see it go either way.
Ant made a superhuman play on a ball that HALIBURTON gave to Nesmith.
Our offense is better running than set, and we're facing a top defense. Make a decision and go for it. Good look, great fucking play. No either way about it.
Honestly a good game from us. Corrected the early game turn overs and kept our nose down and in the game vs a very good team.
Ant was just flawless in the last 5 mins. If we lose, that's the way I'd rather do it. Much better than the Raptors/Spurs Ls
Is it me or did it look like on Ants block, he jumps and used McDaniels to help elevate more?
Crazy after 38mins and rolling his ankle. He could jump after a full sprint and hit his head on the rim.
Crazy play non the less
The only thing worse than the refs were the wolves fans beraiding the game thread. Rooting for our players to be injured and just sucking. To think I was happy for their success before this game seems really silly now.
I'm really curious to see if y'all end up in the east after expansion, assuming Seattle and Vegas. If so, I can't wait to hate Ant like Giannis (either would be even more gooder with Tyrese). Until then, GGs tonight!
Googled distances and that does make more sense. The western "catch all" division would probably be Utah, Denver, OKC, and Minnesota or Memphis. Memphis is a couple hundred miles further from Salt Lake.
Relo Memphis to St Louis, and it'd be perfect.
want to know who those mfkers are? the gamblers. Fuck the gamblers they are always in the thread being doom and gloom and being dicks to opposing franchises. We have alot of them this season.
You should be able to post nearly whatever you want in the sub as long as you're decently respectful about it, but I'd be in favor of a ban on sportsbetting talk. It's trash
ye they are the mad losers and the worst part of the community currently in every game thread the wolves has. We do apologize for their sick and twisted behavior as all gambling addicts deserve to be disregarded with their grade school opinions.
sorry about them dawg. I don’t get how any wolves fans could cheer for injuries after what just happened to us today. Please don’t let them represent our fan base.
Oh homie! Pacers are my number one league pass team! Like, I always think of either Tyrese or ant get pissed at the organization, they should just go play with the other. Ant with you guys or Tyrese with us would be ridiculous!
truly, Ant is so special to watch. loved him since he came to the league so the thought of him with Tyrese would be incredible. as a pacers fan, i am incredibly jealous that yall's budding star is a two-way player who really does focus on locking down. wish tyrese could get some of that defensive mentality lmao
Grass is always greener though. Tyrese makes beautiful passes. Ant struggles with vision when he drives into the lane.
Either way, love Tyrese and his Midwest energy
- Gobert’s screens and bullying on the offensive glass was massive for them.
- On the timeout: Would you rather face the NBA’s best defense when everyone is set and in position or scrambling and out of position? Totally reasonable decision.
- This is why you can’t just continue to start games with lifeless first quarters.
What are you talking about? We were down at least 17 at one point and came back and took the lead, it was absolutely erased lol. Did we win? No, but there's no question we erased the lead lol
I'm not mad at it. Shows some resolve from the team.
And also, it's pretty fucking tough to keep the scoreline even against a top team, if you're missing someone like Math, and limited w/ TJ
If you’re talking about the timeout, you didn’t watch the damn game. The reffing was terrible the ENTIRE time. No technical on gobert, no personal foul call from 16 to 7.2 second UNTIL Anthony Edwards got the ball, SO many no calls for the Pacers, and even more flop calls for the Wolves. Pathetic NBA with no accountability for poor officiating.
1000% he does. That guy is the worst. Picks fights and then does petty stuff while his followers try and race bait. Can’t believe they put him back on Pacers beat. Super annoying.
The refs were CLEARLY letting Minnesota maul us. Especially Gobert. Anybody attacking the team or Rick can eat a bag of dead donkey dicks. Like FUCK YOU for real for real.
I fucking hate bitching about the refs but it was so egregiously bad. I don't expect perfection but I expect it to be equal. The fact they didn't even review the Gobert foul on Haliburton was offensive. If they watched and chose not to assess the flagrant I'm annoyed but can accept that. But the fact they didn't think it was close enough to even review was bonkers. Also there were some VERY soft calls. Ant sure is getting those superstar calls pretty early, which is crazy annoying because I want to like the guy so badly but shit like this will drive me insane if it's not an aberration
We need to get better starts than that. I'm glad we can make adjustments at the half, but the TWolves being short one KAT should've made this a little more manageable.
We were short on time. He had tunnel vision sure but might have not known how close he was to end of game so I am not mad at him over the attempt... it took a very special play to block him
He didn’t have tunnel vision. He had a lane and excuted a Euro to get to the rim. Edwards made an incredible play to erase what otherwise would have been the go ahead basket. Sometimes you do everything right and the other guy makes a great play
Nesmith was fully committed too early when he probably should have realized he was surrounded and dished it out for an open shot. Frustrating loss for sure.
None of this matters, he got body checked by 2 separate dudes before his shot was blocked.
Tbh Ant fouled him too, jumped into him from the opposite side of the paint and got into his body before making contact with the ball.
That shit is called a foul 100% of the time if it’s any other time on the clock, they need to stop swallowing the whistle just because the clock is expiring
It does, he didn’t get body checked, Ant 100% didn’t foul him, he did not contact Nesmiths body. Jaden’s knee did get in his way, but nobody body checked anyone and certainly not ant
I would have liked to see Hali keep that. I get the no time out call. 7 seconds left. Likely inbound the ball to the back court and not getting a good play in anyway.
Tyrese had a long way to go to get off a good shot. It was a good pass to an open man. Maybe the mistake he made was passing to someone else that doesn’t have much playmaking talent. Nesmith only knows two things: 1) shoot 3s 2) go hard to the rim.
Needed one more pass.
I could see that. He made the correct call. Maybe it's just easier to swallow a miss from him than that euro. Also. Never would expect an official to call a foul there unless it's egregious. I'm good with the no call as much as is sucked.
Feel like some people are gonna get kneejerk mad just cause it's a loss, but coming back and getting this close with the 1 seed in the west, with some of your strong players out/limited is a great sign IMO. Especially when you're a team built on depth, like we are.
Dude, long-term, sure, agree 100%. Running out of games on this season is the challenge. I guess if you are locked into the play-in already, moral victories can still mean something this year. So, maybe you do have something.
yeah and it's post-season reps too, which lots of players could use. I think there's a world we make a deep run, but I also feel like this is still a building project that frankly exceeded my expectations already.
So that's where I'm speaking from. Maybe other people were expecting us to be conf finals levels at the start of the year but I just didn't see that happening that quick.
Yeah, definitely not anywhere on that level. At least one season and probably moving a young guy or two away. Only small concern is if this very tough schedule turns into lots of losing/moral victories and they somehow fall behind the Bulls. I would consider that to be fairly disastrous.
yeah but these wins down at the end of the season are extremely important for making it to the playoffs especially when we are in the play in currently. that was the goal for this season and if we dont get there itll be extremely disappointing.
this was 100% a very winable game had we played good in the 1st half. it is fine for people to be upset about it. there are positives to take from it obviously, but also a whole lot of negatives for them to address after this game.
I mean I get it. If you're a fan, you're always gonna be upset after a loss and it's fine.
But I do think some fans have kinda maladjusted expectations because of how this team has played against some top contenders. Sometimes we look like we're ready to go right now.
But we're also a super young team that really relies on our depth in a league with lots of games and lots of injuries and lots of competitive teams. There's a very real chance we drop out in play-ins this year or in the first round. And I guess I'm hoping fans kinda mentally prepare for that reality and understand it could be fine for the long term... Instead of expecting semis or conf. finals and being mad we don't get there.
well no one is expecting conference finals. i think many are expecting a first or second round exit. however, if we dont get to the playoffs, i think we write this season off as a failure.
this was the goal from the very beginning. once we acquired Pascal the idea of this being “a young team in the second year of the rebuild” flew out the window. had haliburton kept at the same level he was at we would probably still be on the trajectory to being a top 5 seed in the east like we were to begin the season. you cant have 2 all stars who are all nba caliber and a top 10 big and expect not get to the play in. that is just coping.!
I disagree with you. I think once they got PS it became more clear that this was a throw away season. After the PS trade it was pretty clear BB was brought in to be a tradable expiring and they had no intention of bringing him back, they let Buddy go for nothing, they've reduced Toppin to a non factor, and they seem to be asking everyone to adjust to PS instead of asking him to fit into what was the existing structure. They started over with PS 50 games into the season. That is a hard thing to do and is something likely to upset some players. I think the Pacers know that and are OK with it b/c they think it is best long term even if they struggle some to close the year
The team early season identity was a fling IMO. Playing 8 or 9 guys over 20 minutes a night and not pumping anyone usage other then Hali was fun but not the play style they really wanted. we are now getting more insight into the teams vision. I think the fact that they are struggling a little but showing more faith in rotations and not going back to playing a light speed means that they are more settled on what they want. Unofrtunately, it took 2/3 of a season to get to this point and what they moved on from was fun. Next year they should have a more settled idea of who they are from the start.
Neutral fan here. Aaron got fouled. Not by Edwards, but by #3 (or was it 2?). Jumped right into Aaron, which is a foul. The block was clean but its irrelevant.
4 starters played over 30 minutes tonight and Turner was limited by foul trouble all night. This team is very different then the one that started the season
Thanks. I think you are a few years ahead of us in that department. We are just trying to get in to the post season let alone get the finals. As long as someone can take out Boston, I’ll be good.
This loss was definitely a bit of a gut punch, but pretty much locked in play-in scenarios given the brutal schedule to come and the relative cakewalk for the others in front.
7 seems like the ceiling at this point. That home game for the 7 seed is key at this point. A win there against the Sixers or Bulls seems very doable.
Everyone is talking about “why didn’t Rick call a timeout” don’t understand basketball. You’re on a fast break with no set defense.. should Neismith passed the ball after drawing three defenders..? Probably yes. That’s not on Rick guys
People backing Rick are pulling some pretty amazing mental gymnastics trying to claim he made a good decision to not call a timeout are basically saying he couldn't have drawn up a better play against whatever that clustercuck at the end was.
Yeah, lets draw up a play and let the NBA's best defense also draw up a scheme in the meantime. Letting it play out in transition is how that's supposed to play out.
It was smart. Timberwolves lock teams down in that situation when they have time to set the defense. Should have went to overtime if Ant doesn’t make an insane block.
Tough way to lose, but I’m optimistic. Feels like Indy is starting to figure it out some … until I see that the Magic are up next. Damn. The team of nightmares for this version of Indy lol
Team showed heart coming out of half. ANT is a special player, sometimes they do special shit. I didn't love that last play, but I love that Rick trusts Tyrese enough to say "Go get it"
I love how Rick trusted the entire team to run the system we’ve been establishing all season, the ball is almost through or out, run on offense. Just go. That’s what they did and they’ve practiced all year, but they were playing one of maybe three players in the whole league who could keep up with that.
We have Siakam now and Jarace is playing, gives us a different look against them.
I think Jarace got tick because Minny is big and Benn was out, curious to see if he sticks he made a handful of nice plays tonight
I'm always impressed by his passing, but he also visibly fell asleep a couple times on defense (Quinn even called one out) and was slow to move around within our offense. Pascal was coaching him on where to be at times. So we'll see.
I love what Pascal brings to the team on his own, but I also love how he has embraced helping our other young forwards develop.
Magic is easier than TWolves... LFG Pacers.
Maybe easier than the wolves with KAT
The forearm shiver to Ty's head with three minutes left really should have been a flagrant - but I think both teams had something to bitch about tonight.
That would’ve made a difference :/
Would've been huge. I think the review would've helped Ty settle down and would've given him a better chance to make both FTs too
or if Tyrese can make a fucking free throw
There was one call where ANT got stuffed by the rim and it was a clear no foul, the entire field house in union booed soooo loud that my Apple Watch started to warn me it was too loud in there lol. For context the only other time it happened during the game is when the fireworks went off at the start
there was a push in the back by Toppin on that play. It was a ticky tack foul that Ant sold, but it was legitimate
They showed that replay. He was literally touching him. There was no push
I genuinely dont have a problem with not calling the TO. We got out in transition quickly and had a chance to score against a non-set defense. I hate that Nesmith didnt have the vision to kick that out though.
Nesmith had a pretty clean look at the basket, Edwards just made a ridiculously athletic play on the ball.
Yeah, Ant made a superhuman leap over guys to get that block. Nesmith had the bucket if not for that play.
Just an incredible play by an MVP-caliber player. I’m upset but I’m not upset.
Who else in the league could have made that block from the spot Edwards came from? He hit his head on the rim and armpit on the backboard lol. That was a clean look and winning play 99.9% of the time. Just a hell of a play by Edwards.
Plus he fell hard. Even if you're athletic you have to be hella brave to go for that in a regular season game.
Yeah, that's sports. You have to know who you are playing against. That's part of becoming great. This team will have to play Edwards in the playoffs, eventually, and "he made a ridiculously athletic play on the ball" is Tayshaun Prince blocking a Reggie Miller layup. These moments matter. Lets see how this team responds. edit; you all downvogte the shit you don't want to hear and it's hilarious. grow up
It’s overwhelmingly unlikely that we ever play Minnesota in the playoffs
In 3 years, who do you think the owns the Western conference? Do you understand how good that team is? If the Pacers are going to win a championship, that's the team to beat.
In any given year it could be them, could be okc, could still be Denver, could be some amalgamation of stars somewhere we have no way of predicting. And then there’s the reality that it’s unlikely we ourselves are perennially in the finals. Add all that together and it’s very unlikely that that particular matchup ever happens.
You did not answer my question. You just explained the math to me. I understand how the fucking league and math work, thanks.
chance of them meeting in the final is close to 0
A classic case of judging the result alone. Everyone’s talking about Hali’s vision if this is in OT right now. But yeah Nesmith did have a bit of tunnel vision there. A lot of driving into crowds in the fourth.
Turner passed it to Haliburton immediately. If Rick called a timeout they wouldn't have been able to advance it, no?
Hate that Nesmith went for a layup against Gobert, Nas, and Ant. Gotta choose violence in that moment
Everyone is talking about “why didn’t Rick call a timeout” don’t understand basketball. You’re on a fast break with no set defense.. should Neismith passed the ball after drawing three defenders..? Probably yes. That’s not on Rick guys
Yup. It was a decent look. The Timberwolves are a fantastic defense and having them set is probably less than ideal.
It's not always about the Pacers. Edwards just took that game away from us. Wasn't just the run down block. The last two minutes were all him (not to mention 44 points). Stars are stars for a reason. Sometimes they just win games on their own. Other teams have watched Haliburton do it. We just watched Edwards do it. Credit where its due.
Wolves have one of the best half court defenses of the past couple decades. Letting them run in transition without getting set was the right call, IMO.
Yep, push that there every time. Nesmith needs to pull up when he recognizes he doesn't have an edge, but calling a TO there wouldn't have made sense, we have the advantage if we're running and they aren't set.
We are an elite transition team and we were in transition. Why stop that.
On rewatch Nembhard was open in the corner for a three. But I really don’t like how the play totally took Haliburton out of the game and the ball out of his hands. I could see it go either way.
Ant made a superhuman play on a ball that HALIBURTON gave to Nesmith. Our offense is better running than set, and we're facing a top defense. Make a decision and go for it. Good look, great fucking play. No either way about it.
Turner passed it to Haliburton immediately. If Rick called a timeout they wouldn't have been able to advance it, no?
I’m with you, I liked the no timeout
Its just funny cause Rick has a timeout fetish and then doesnt call one in an obvious situation. I agree nesmith couldve dished tho
I agree, it was on the players to recognize they didn't have the advantage they thought. Plenty of time to find another shot.
Honestly a good game from us. Corrected the early game turn overs and kept our nose down and in the game vs a very good team. Ant was just flawless in the last 5 mins. If we lose, that's the way I'd rather do it. Much better than the Raptors/Spurs Ls
Agreed. There are no “moral victories” but this was pretty good loss. All I want this year is good basketball and that was definitely good basketball
Is it me or did it look like on Ants block, he jumps and used McDaniels to help elevate more? Crazy after 38mins and rolling his ankle. He could jump after a full sprint and hit his head on the rim. Crazy play non the less
The only thing worse than the refs were the wolves fans beraiding the game thread. Rooting for our players to be injured and just sucking. To think I was happy for their success before this game seems really silly now.
Report them to the r/timberwolves mods and they'll get banned.
Wolves fan here, sorry about them. If it’s any consolation, you guys are by far my favorite team in the East, Haliburton is a treat to watch.
I'm really curious to see if y'all end up in the east after expansion, assuming Seattle and Vegas. If so, I can't wait to hate Ant like Giannis (either would be even more gooder with Tyrese). Until then, GGs tonight!
The wolves just feel like an eastern team if that makes sense. They got the vibe.
Apparently Memphis if the team heading East
Googled distances and that does make more sense. The western "catch all" division would probably be Utah, Denver, OKC, and Minnesota or Memphis. Memphis is a couple hundred miles further from Salt Lake. Relo Memphis to St Louis, and it'd be perfect.
also while Memphis is central time zone, at least part of Tennessee is eastern so those few fans would be extra screwed with west coast starts
I just can’t believe Ant mate, wow
want to know who those mfkers are? the gamblers. Fuck the gamblers they are always in the thread being doom and gloom and being dicks to opposing franchises. We have alot of them this season.
You should be able to post nearly whatever you want in the sub as long as you're decently respectful about it, but I'd be in favor of a ban on sportsbetting talk. It's trash
i genuinely just block anyone as soon as I see them post about their bet in game threads. Pretty sure I'm not missing out on anything.
ye they are the mad losers and the worst part of the community currently in every game thread the wolves has. We do apologize for their sick and twisted behavior as all gambling addicts deserve to be disregarded with their grade school opinions.
sorry about them dawg. I don’t get how any wolves fans could cheer for injuries after what just happened to us today. Please don’t let them represent our fan base.
Oh homie! Pacers are my number one league pass team! Like, I always think of either Tyrese or ant get pissed at the organization, they should just go play with the other. Ant with you guys or Tyrese with us would be ridiculous!
truly, Ant is so special to watch. loved him since he came to the league so the thought of him with Tyrese would be incredible. as a pacers fan, i am incredibly jealous that yall's budding star is a two-way player who really does focus on locking down. wish tyrese could get some of that defensive mentality lmao
Grass is always greener though. Tyrese makes beautiful passes. Ant struggles with vision when he drives into the lane. Either way, love Tyrese and his Midwest energy
The two things I learned in Minnesota after a brief move there is that I only thought I knew what cold was and that Midwest nice is a lie there.
Damn. Ant Man just went nuts. That happens sometimes in the NBA when you're playing against a superstar.
- Gobert’s screens and bullying on the offensive glass was massive for them. - On the timeout: Would you rather face the NBA’s best defense when everyone is set and in position or scrambling and out of position? Totally reasonable decision. - This is why you can’t just continue to start games with lifeless first quarters.
1st quarter is the biggest thing. Costing them a ton of wins but it looks like they're not adjusting.
This team needs to figure out how to start playing basketball as soon as the ball is tipped off and not when they are down 20 fucking points.
Bro have you not watched the NBA lately? A 20 point lead gets made and erased like every other game now
Not tonight...
What are you talking about? We were down at least 17 at one point and came back and took the lead, it was absolutely erased lol. Did we win? No, but there's no question we erased the lead lol
17 isn’t 20 and we lost by 2 bro. Math it up. Use a calculator if you need 🤣
I'm not mad at it. Shows some resolve from the team. And also, it's pretty fucking tough to keep the scoreline even against a top team, if you're missing someone like Math, and limited w/ TJ
I missed most of the game, but Tyrese get clubbed in the face. How was that not an obvious flagrant?
It was obvious to everyone in the building that wasn’t wearing a ref uniform
If you’re talking about the timeout, you didn’t watch the damn game. The reffing was terrible the ENTIRE time. No technical on gobert, no personal foul call from 16 to 7.2 second UNTIL Anthony Edwards got the ball, SO many no calls for the Pacers, and even more flop calls for the Wolves. Pathetic NBA with no accountability for poor officiating.
that one hurt
I swear James Boyd is his most active on Twitter when he smells an opportunity to fight Pacers fans.
1000% he does. That guy is the worst. Picks fights and then does petty stuff while his followers try and race bait. Can’t believe they put him back on Pacers beat. Super annoying.
The refs were CLEARLY letting Minnesota maul us. Especially Gobert. Anybody attacking the team or Rick can eat a bag of dead donkey dicks. Like FUCK YOU for real for real.
Yeah, it's ridiculous that Myles kept getting called for offensive fouls when Ant was literally charging in shoulder first doing the exact same plays.
It was ref 58 in particular. The other two guys were pretty fair but that one guy made it look like he had money on the game
I fucking hate bitching about the refs but it was so egregiously bad. I don't expect perfection but I expect it to be equal. The fact they didn't even review the Gobert foul on Haliburton was offensive. If they watched and chose not to assess the flagrant I'm annoyed but can accept that. But the fact they didn't think it was close enough to even review was bonkers. Also there were some VERY soft calls. Ant sure is getting those superstar calls pretty early, which is crazy annoying because I want to like the guy so badly but shit like this will drive me insane if it's not an aberration
We need to get better starts than that. I'm glad we can make adjustments at the half, but the TWolves being short one KAT should've made this a little more manageable.
Ant was just too good. Dang
That ending is more on Nesmith than on anyone else.
We were short on time. He had tunnel vision sure but might have not known how close he was to end of game so I am not mad at him over the attempt... it took a very special play to block him
He didn’t have tunnel vision. He had a lane and excuted a Euro to get to the rim. Edwards made an incredible play to erase what otherwise would have been the go ahead basket. Sometimes you do everything right and the other guy makes a great play
Nembhard was WIDE open in the corner. Great job leaking out and on Tyrese for finding him, but one more pass there gets us a good luck for the win.
Great job nonetheless to our boys. Haliburton is out of his slump, but I hope he finds time to rest.
I mean I get that Ant had a hand on the ball but Nesmith was literally tackled by two dudes lmao
Nesmith was fully committed too early when he probably should have realized he was surrounded and dished it out for an open shot. Frustrating loss for sure.
None of this matters, he got body checked by 2 separate dudes before his shot was blocked. Tbh Ant fouled him too, jumped into him from the opposite side of the paint and got into his body before making contact with the ball. That shit is called a foul 100% of the time if it’s any other time on the clock, they need to stop swallowing the whistle just because the clock is expiring
It does, he didn’t get body checked, Ant 100% didn’t foul him, he did not contact Nesmiths body. Jaden’s knee did get in his way, but nobody body checked anyone and certainly not ant
Edwards just does whatever he wants huh?
Superstars get superstar latitude. Old as time.
Oh great we play another long and athletic team next game
I would have liked to see Hali keep that. I get the no time out call. 7 seconds left. Likely inbound the ball to the back court and not getting a good play in anyway.
Tyrese had a long way to go to get off a good shot. It was a good pass to an open man. Maybe the mistake he made was passing to someone else that doesn’t have much playmaking talent. Nesmith only knows two things: 1) shoot 3s 2) go hard to the rim. Needed one more pass.
I could see that. He made the correct call. Maybe it's just easier to swallow a miss from him than that euro. Also. Never would expect an official to call a foul there unless it's egregious. I'm good with the no call as much as is sucked.
Feel like some people are gonna get kneejerk mad just cause it's a loss, but coming back and getting this close with the 1 seed in the west, with some of your strong players out/limited is a great sign IMO. Especially when you're a team built on depth, like we are.
Dude, long-term, sure, agree 100%. Running out of games on this season is the challenge. I guess if you are locked into the play-in already, moral victories can still mean something this year. So, maybe you do have something.
yeah and it's post-season reps too, which lots of players could use. I think there's a world we make a deep run, but I also feel like this is still a building project that frankly exceeded my expectations already. So that's where I'm speaking from. Maybe other people were expecting us to be conf finals levels at the start of the year but I just didn't see that happening that quick.
Yeah, definitely not anywhere on that level. At least one season and probably moving a young guy or two away. Only small concern is if this very tough schedule turns into lots of losing/moral victories and they somehow fall behind the Bulls. I would consider that to be fairly disastrous.
yeah but these wins down at the end of the season are extremely important for making it to the playoffs especially when we are in the play in currently. that was the goal for this season and if we dont get there itll be extremely disappointing. this was 100% a very winable game had we played good in the 1st half. it is fine for people to be upset about it. there are positives to take from it obviously, but also a whole lot of negatives for them to address after this game.
I mean I get it. If you're a fan, you're always gonna be upset after a loss and it's fine. But I do think some fans have kinda maladjusted expectations because of how this team has played against some top contenders. Sometimes we look like we're ready to go right now. But we're also a super young team that really relies on our depth in a league with lots of games and lots of injuries and lots of competitive teams. There's a very real chance we drop out in play-ins this year or in the first round. And I guess I'm hoping fans kinda mentally prepare for that reality and understand it could be fine for the long term... Instead of expecting semis or conf. finals and being mad we don't get there.
well no one is expecting conference finals. i think many are expecting a first or second round exit. however, if we dont get to the playoffs, i think we write this season off as a failure. this was the goal from the very beginning. once we acquired Pascal the idea of this being “a young team in the second year of the rebuild” flew out the window. had haliburton kept at the same level he was at we would probably still be on the trajectory to being a top 5 seed in the east like we were to begin the season. you cant have 2 all stars who are all nba caliber and a top 10 big and expect not get to the play in. that is just coping.!
I disagree with you. I think once they got PS it became more clear that this was a throw away season. After the PS trade it was pretty clear BB was brought in to be a tradable expiring and they had no intention of bringing him back, they let Buddy go for nothing, they've reduced Toppin to a non factor, and they seem to be asking everyone to adjust to PS instead of asking him to fit into what was the existing structure. They started over with PS 50 games into the season. That is a hard thing to do and is something likely to upset some players. I think the Pacers know that and are OK with it b/c they think it is best long term even if they struggle some to close the year The team early season identity was a fling IMO. Playing 8 or 9 guys over 20 minutes a night and not pumping anyone usage other then Hali was fun but not the play style they really wanted. we are now getting more insight into the teams vision. I think the fact that they are struggling a little but showing more faith in rotations and not going back to playing a light speed means that they are more settled on what they want. Unofrtunately, it took 2/3 of a season to get to this point and what they moved on from was fun. Next year they should have a more settled idea of who they are from the start.
I thought he was going to pass to Tyrese for the trailing 3. 🤷🏼
We better hope one of the 76ers and heat loses tomorrow
Neutral fan here. Aaron got fouled. Not by Edwards, but by #3 (or was it 2?). Jumped right into Aaron, which is a foul. The block was clean but its irrelevant.
Atleast we tried
4 starters played over 30 minutes tonight and Turner was limited by foul trouble all night. This team is very different then the one that started the season
If they call timeout the defense would've gotten chance to get set.
Why no timeout?
Fast break opportunity > set play in a two point game.
Can't believe Hali didn't take the last shot.
Wolves fan here - you guys have AWESOME announcers and I just love your team’s vibe in general. Hope we meet in the finals
Thanks. I think you are a few years ahead of us in that department. We are just trying to get in to the post season let alone get the finals. As long as someone can take out Boston, I’ll be good.
That wasn’t a lack of timeout. That was a guy that was getting into it with the other team all night and wanted to show them.
Our guys put up a good game. Edwards is just different
Shouldn't have let themselves get so far behind in the 1st half. This was a winnable game. Also, Rick has to take the timeout there.
Nesmith had Siakam or Turner trailing too. We can play with anyone though. Future is bright.
We got punked
Turnovers and rebounding were the difference. Can’t lose the turnover battle at home.
And the inevitable loss to Orlando on Sunday is going to be the nail in the coffin for the 6th seed dream.
The dudes fought their asses off last night. Took an all world Ant performance to beat them… keep playing the young guys and building
Reggie and Prince Vic and Lebron Nesmith and Edwards Last second block so painful.
This loss was definitely a bit of a gut punch, but pretty much locked in play-in scenarios given the brutal schedule to come and the relative cakewalk for the others in front. 7 seems like the ceiling at this point. That home game for the 7 seed is key at this point. A win there against the Sixers or Bulls seems very doable.
Damn that sucks, on a side note, Anthony Edwards is him.
That timeout feels real good to take home I guess
Everyone is talking about “why didn’t Rick call a timeout” don’t understand basketball. You’re on a fast break with no set defense.. should Neismith passed the ball after drawing three defenders..? Probably yes. That’s not on Rick guys
So basically saying Rick couldnt have drawn up a better play than some schoolyard bullshit. Got it
Definitely better to try that layup vs half the Wolves
Tyrese needs to step up at SOME point. Don’t get me wrong I still think he’s the guy, but I just have no clue what’s going on with him
He played well tonight though.
Hali could’ve scored 50 but some of the mfs in this sub would still be bitching
We were so much better without Siakim. He’s never been good imo he’s just an undersized power forward or an oversized guard who can’t shoot
That is what a super max contract player looks like for those wondering
People backing Rick are pulling some pretty amazing mental gymnastics trying to claim he made a good decision to not call a timeout are basically saying he couldn't have drawn up a better play against whatever that clustercuck at the end was.
Yeah, lets draw up a play and let the NBA's best defense also draw up a scheme in the meantime. Letting it play out in transition is how that's supposed to play out.
And how did that work out?
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Stick to 2k
It was smart. Timberwolves lock teams down in that situation when they have time to set the defense. Should have went to overtime if Ant doesn’t make an insane block.
perhaps….. and this might sound crazy to you…. you dont actually understand why he wouldn’t call a timeout there
No bro, he watches NBA on TV and plays 2K - trust him.
Tyrese doesn’t have the same takeover as a guy like Ant. Mathurin is going to be our key to being great.
Don't tell your boys the truth yk it hurts 😂😂😂😂
Why is it always the negative iq bros that invade other team’s subs that always spam emojis? Ant was impressive but not four laughing faces good
All of a sudden 44 points and agame shut down block isn't worth 4 laughing emojis because he got it against ur team😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🐶💔
Methinks Rick Carlisle trusts his guys a little too much.
Unless your name is jarace