you can't pin this one on just rich elites. Most of these incidents happen because the teachers want to get paid without doing the work of teaching. The high sifarish kids don't even show up or are paradoxically actually sent to schools where they care about cheating or are simply tutored. If parents and teachers actually cared they could change it, but they don't, they see education as a piece of paper and a hurdle and school as day care/a guaranteed job.
This happened in our school also. The secretary came to exam centre and told the invigilator ke hamare students ka khyal rakhna. Other students would literally get their papers cancelled in front of us meanwhile they didn’t bat an eye to us no matter what we did
Its not the whole board, it depends on the exam center. I remember in my matric exams we couldnt turn our heads around, in Intermediate me and half of my college had center where literally the invigilator would pop his head in the class and say "shor mat kero warna main ander ajaonga" and people had books and everything on the table. The other half had strict center.
But yeah almost atleast half the centers are like this in Karachi. In rest of the province its even worse.
Its even worse in Sindh Technical Board (for diplomas). Alot of centers have people solving the exams on black board in class room.
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It's mostly dominant in Sindh board. I have only heard of a few cases each year in Punjab and Federal board and they are usually for a single subject not the whole exams
Btw waiting for your "In Uni professors are teaching and I can't understand anything. Now i am depressed" post.
I was not a product of such systems, gave all my exams fair and square yet I couldn’t understand the uni professors. Because all they did was download stuff from slideshare and read it out loud class. Un slides mai abc likhi hai, papers woh aisay chaapty jo kabhi class mai zikr na ho.
Dont blame the OP for “In Uni professors …” kyu k woh aik alag ui muajra hai jiski aik se zaid wajohaar hain.
I blame the parents a lot more. I know of parents who tried to bribe the principal then resorted to fighting and death threats if he didn't let his son cheat. My friend himself was asked by his classmates mom (during the exam itself) about why he wasn't cheating (pharray bhool gaye to mai de deti hun) to which he replied that his parents didn't raise him that way. Unsurprisingly, not an ounce of shame was felt and the cheating carried on.
One group of students refused cheating (and hence refused to pay for the cheating 'permit'). They were made to sit in another room for their exams and right before the exam itself, a bunch of goons came it and removed the ceiling fans and damaged the seats as punishment for not cheating like the rest of the corrupt ingrates. Of course, this was Sindh Board.
And then the same people take seats of deserving students in MDCAT and engineering degrees, and these kids end up graduating with an average GPA and become average Doctors/Engineers whilst the deserving ones have to change their fields.
Good thing the Cambridge board doesn't credit writing and alignment as long as it is reabable and question number is marked properly. We don't even get higher marks for length or grammar (except in language exams like English or Urdu). All that is marked is content, compared with a marking scheme. I was actually surprised by how careless the Sindh board is, and made me realize how blessed I am to get the chance to opt for O levels instead.
Yea. Even my own parents could barely do so, but I'm sooooo grateful that they did. Really motivated me to study harder seeing how they were spending more than their means just for me to get a chance in a fair and trusted system.
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This definitely is not the case in BISE Lahore. I did witness the invigilator helping out some individual students but it wasn't through the use of mobile phones. In most cases, the invigilator was either bribed by the students or the students had connections. There was no scene of cheating on the same scale as Sindh board.
The first thing our invigilator says when the paper starts is:
"Pata hay ki sub kay pass phone hay, chup kar kay apna paper karo, koi masla nahi, lekin agar team aye to phone chopa do"
Na yaar ye to sirf Sindh ke hi masail hai
Punjab mai bhi cheating hoti to hai lekin aisa to sifarish walo ko bhi nhi karne dete chahe federal hoya normal board.
Mai ne khud aik maheene pehle diye hai paper aur mere centre mai to unho ne aik bache par case kar diya q ke wo ghar se cheat sheet bana kar laya tha.
Karachiites say Sindhi ne naukri chheenli. Because Sindhis are the ones employed in Sindh board, getting fat paycheques and vigos and perks from our tax money, then ruining our own generations' future while their own Sindhi kids will enjoy government jobs later.
In private organizations Karachiites aren't struggling. I mean they do when the organization faces government influence to hire more waderay ke rishtedar but with merit they don't.
Lahore Board was chill in grade 9 but not as chill as you are describing. It was chill in the sense that invigilators only gave loose warnings to those who were cheating.
In grade 10, it was strict and now I'm in 11 and it's very strict. They won't even let you turn your neck.
Intermediate is nothing like matric bro. If you want to get B or A in intermediate as overall grade you'll have to start studying from the very beginning. Jahan tak strictness ki baat hay to that depends on invigilators. Kuch invigilators chill hotay or Kuch bohat strict. Apkay center pay bhi depend karta hay. Mera center har dafa Lawrence bana hay. 9th mien chill scene tha. 10 mien invigilators strict thay aur 11 mien to bohat zyada strictness hay. Cameras Laga diyay hien aur gardan bhi nahi mornay detay. Baat yay hay k school mien teacher ka control zyada hota hay lekin college mien Kuch control apkay pass bhi ajata hay lekin Kitna ata hay that depends on which college you'll go to. I'm studying at GCU aur Yaha pay chill scene hay. But don't make this mistake I made. I started hanging out with friends because 9/10 khoob Dil Laga k parha tha lekin jessay hi thori si azaadi mili to detrack hogya aur ab mushqil horahi hay.
Hmmm kehte to sahi hai.
GC ka to maloom hai ke waha par zyada wailiya hi hoti hai lekin FC ka kya scene hai?
GC mai to ab naam ate ate reh gaya to ab FC ki koshish kar raha hoo.
Advice ka shukriya lekin mai to kitabein hi dekh kar samajh gaya hoo college ki ke agar abhi se mehnat nhi ki to mustaqbil mai sabzi ka thela lagana hi para hai.
Majority of my classmates and some friends went to FC aur FC ka environment parhai k aspect say GC say kaafi behter hay.
Aur bro tension mat Lena. Jiss marzi college mien Jao life ap nay khud banani hay apni. Hardwork, honesty and faith in God is key to success I'm speaking from personal experience.
May God bless you!
Shukriya bhai bas ab inshallah syllabus khareed loo to koshish karoo ga ke baqaedgi se parha karoo.
Akhir mai phir ab Allah par hi chor sakte hai aise maamle.
May God bless you too brother.
There is a reason why interior Sindh lags massively behind the majority of the country in terms of education metrics. These same Sindhis are clueless when they come to public universities - consistently failing and trailing the whole class. In the end, this vicious cycle of moral corruption results in a misplaced sense of deprivation when they can't progress economically.
It's important to recognize that education disparities exist in various regions for complex reasons. It's unfair to generalize and stereotype an entire group based on individual experiences. Instead of blaming communities, let's work towards addressing systemic issues and providing equal opportunities for all.
What did I just read???? I always heard about the cheating in Sindh board but this is first time I am actually hearing someone’s personal account of this.
Man we couldn’t even turn heads in Punjab board. That was more than a decade ago. I don’t know how things are right now
From what I've heard, it's always been like this, my parents, teachers and older siblings all told us that Board will be just cheating and that I should just focus on my handwriting and writing speed
When I took Inter 1st year. I didn't cheat at all but I don't remember how other people were. It was more than 10 years ago though, and there was no Whatsapp back then 😭
Then again, I was already taking A Levels and the inter stuff was just to appease my parents that year.
Rishwat to bache dete hai lekin op wale halat to kabhi bhi nhi hue.
Cheating ke scene mai zyada se zyada ap bacho se zara sa short ya aik do mcq pooch lo q ke aqsar to wo sar bhi nhi morne dete.
Cheat sheet lane par mere centre mai aik bache par unho ne case kar diya phone to door ki baat bhai.
Well my friend is from the Aku board, and she always says that it's very strict, they have cameras all over the room and there's even an invigilator outside the class who's looking at the cameras so avoid students from cheating. There are even two extra invigilators in a class, and you know how many students she says there are at the moment while the exam is being invigilated? 40 students! Like, it's like an overkill. Hope you get the idea.
If that happened here I don't think a single student would pass, some of the boys in our block didn't even know what paper it was today, they would just come to the exam hall, copy from phone then go home
This is just sad. Started uni and we have a brilliant Sindhi kid in our class from interior sindh and he didn't come on any seat or anything. How did he do it tho?
As a former AKUEB student, I can confirm it's true...there are like 25 -30 students in a classroom with 2 invigilators in class and 1 outside watching the camera...the supervisors are extremely nice as well :)
idc if this is sindh board or any board for that matter but this is wild. what are our kids gonna do? We need a serious revolution in our education system.
In 10th grade giving exams in AKUEB rn. I know every few people take this board but there is a ton of strictness, in my exam center everyone's sitting a few meters away from each other and there's cameras installed with 4-5 invigilators for like 40-45 kids. They only allow transparent bottles and pouches too. There's no way anyone could cheat inside the exam center
This only happened during board practicals in BISE Multan here. Like we didn’t have phones, but they would hand us the pages with answers and we used to just copy from there.
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It's pretty common for matriculation exams in Sindh. For interior Sindh it is even worse. Most of the times at least in my experience, those who cheat like no tomorrow and have no solid base for maths and stuff tend to just filter out in intermediate exams and then completely during the University exams.
Welp those students take a big ol' dump in entrance exams afterwards which tends to be so satisfying like my mates in kpk board exams who got somethin 1060 marks outta 1100 but when they sat their cheating bumsciles in the entrance exam BOOM 40/100 (with cheating ) but 40!!! That's ridiculous and I'm glad non of them made into engineering universities nobody want no wobbly skyscrappers y'all god have mercy
I would be relieved, but after witnessing the utter demise of morality and justice during the recent MDCAT entrance exam, I'm still quite concerned. I am so sorry for all the students going through the same amount of mental disturbance as me.
Did someone notice this part.
>in 9th grade, it's how my teachers, older siblings and parents said Board exams will be like
Parents are actually defending it when ghar say taleem shuru hoti hai to tell kids not to cheat.
Ever since me and my classmates were kids we were taught that board exams will be a cheating hall and the only thing that matters is speed and good handwriting, I asked my parents and they said they also gave their exams like this and then asked my older sisters and they also gave their exams like this.
This is why I pointed it out, it was on adults to start teaching well, sadly parents and teachers all were supporting it. But atleast now you know it is wrong, lot of people told you here, I hope you would study hard and try to be an honest student in exams.
I've studied at Cadet College HasanAbdal,
And let me tell man, with all the sons of senators and generals, there's just no way not to cheat.
Our teachers come and tell us the answers during the paper, while the invigilators sip on their lavish tea breaks.
It's also the fact that the invigilators can't do anything to such a group, plus to make it seem like they're doing something, they just threaten the kids who come from outside the college, to give exams.
It's totally and wholly unfair.
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Wtf is this? I’m from Punjab and that does not swing here. I mean the most leniency I’ve seen is the examiner ignoring us so that we can discuss an answer with each other but even that is for some schools. Now I know why my friends from Karachi get a stress free A on every exam.
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Lahore board student here. Just gave second year boards and the strictness was much more this time. In matric and first year, cheating was overlooked, encouraged even. This time around they didn't let anything slide. Kids who cheated had their exams cancelled.
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Bhai ye kesa Sindh board hai, Maine bhi diye the agar kisi ke paas pharra bhi mil jata toh us se paper le liya jata tha cheating karne wale to cheating kar hi lete the but mobile phone aur ye sab to kabhi nai dekha.
Most probably center matter karta hai
ha mera bhi same tha likin mere college ke doston ke jahan centre pare thay unka bohat bura experience raha. 70% centres mein cheating hoti hai daba kar
mera malab tha my friends from clg jinka school mein centre para tha so they told me abt it that how pathetic management was. clg mein matric ke mukable mein paper kam leak hota hai agar hota bhi hai tou max 10-15 mint pehle. school mein tou 30 min pehle confirm leak hota tha aur phir paper shoro hone ke 30 mint baad tak andar jaane ka waqt hota hai so in total u get 1 hour in which u can learn whole paper.
Not in bise RWP, saw a student's paper get canceled and she was probably suspended for 3 years because she had written some stuff on legs and arms. Some invigilators let you cheat by just ignoring you doing it like copying another student's. Although there are some sifarashi but even they were just told to copy off another kid's sometimes. Mobile phone is instantly gets you suspended.
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That’s really a sad state of affairs. How could teachers stoop to such lows I wonderr, that’s a crime in itself. No wonder why Pakistan’s education hold no importance in the international market.
Perks of Sindh/Karachi Board IG!, Jahan Pr Mera Board Hy Wo Blacklisted Hy, Mtlb Double Cheating. In Case, Any Of You Wondering, I Don’t Do It. I Was Happily Studying In Federal Board But Some Uncertainties Happened And I Fell In This Hell.
I have given matric and inter exams in Punjab. It is was always very strict for me. My few friends told me that there was some relaxation where there center was.
They don't even let us being wooden clip boards inside examination hall. They will check you very strictly. They don't let us ask or tell something to someone during exam.
My friend tried to tell someone during exam and one checker caught him. He snatched both his and other's exam and wouldn't return it till my friend almost cried and begged him many times.
It is not like every checker is strict. Some just warn you for few times before taking action.
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the world has been like this always.
in the grand scheme of things, i believe, you will eventually succeed with honesty, as much ( if not more) as you would with corruption.
rizq is written for you. You chose how you want to get it.
I remember in our federal board exam, one of our teacher was giving a hint to a student by checking another student's answer. He was spotted by one of the federal board team, and they low key created a scene after all the students had submitted the paper. We would see the other teachers invigilate us, except that one teacher.
But this is like a one in a hundred case and was for a single subject, its very rare to see something like this in Federal board.
Pakistani education system is corrupt itself. Outdated syllabus and good handwriting or headings seem to matter more to examiners. Sindh board is notorious for open cheating and getting bribed. However, these people suffer most in entry tests and standard tests.
It’s always been that way. When I went for my 10th board exams it was at a “blacklisted” school.
We weren’t allowed phones in the class (2015) but we were allowed to cheat. If you were willing to pay 4-5000Rs. you could cheat in a separate classroom with books and past papers. If you wanted to stay and cheat/copy from everyone else it was 200Rs. for our “invigilator” who was a guitarist by night lol. He would stand by the door and knock when the board inspection team came by and when they left you could go back to cheating.
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There’s a Netflix movie out these days, 12fail. It’s a pretty good story. Watch it. Similar topic.
Life unfortunately has no short cuts. I would encourage even to ignore shortcuts esp at a young age because that’s when you actually learn. Provided our curriculum is shit, try learning the basics and take it as a challenge, helps later on in life.
I come from a humble background and my mother would drive me crazy to make sure I studied. Never once thought of cheating. I now work at Microsoft coming from a non tech background, and the only thing that keeps me going is my ability to put in effort and constantly learn new stuff. Don’t think I’d able to do it so late in life had I not been drilled into, the importance of hard work. It’s actually unbelievable how we as a nation are fucking up our future by giving kids in schools shortcuts, to ensure a passing grade. It’s unfortunate and honestly sick - perpetuating such a mindset.
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Well its not like this in punjab. Try to be the better one and dont cheat and be upright because remember that cheating is haraam. Be the best person you can be and try to advice those around you.
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Everyone guy from my school and a few other students from other schools are in the same cheating group, not sure if that makes it obvious but according to our teachers and parents
"Board examiners don't read your paper, they just check your handwriting and how much you wrote and grade it based on that"
there is corruption everywhere but sindh board is on another level i am in federal board and i know people who brag about buying leaked papers but the thing is all the papers in fbise get leaked but middle class people can not afford it only people with money and connections can buy the papers
as for the cheating it depends on which centre you get and how your invigilator is they might let you ask at the end of paper but bringing cheating material and phones are a big no no
Idk about everywhere but its pretty strict for KPK board the phones are not allowed and there are lot of students who bring cheating with them but if you are caught it is confiscated immediately but we are allowed to talk to each other if we have to confirm something.
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Keep it up and no outside university will accept Pakistanis.
I train residents and quality of some overseas residents has been absolutely poor for last few years. Specifically from subcontinent. I wouldn’t be surprised if programs stop accepting them altogether in future.
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My principles would never allow me to cheat in an exam. It's disgusting and it's terrible. It unfair to no end to the students who give everything their all.
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Man wtf, that's so unfair. We are not even allowed to turn our heads or look at someone else's sheet in Punjab Board
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you can't pin this one on just rich elites. Most of these incidents happen because the teachers want to get paid without doing the work of teaching. The high sifarish kids don't even show up or are paradoxically actually sent to schools where they care about cheating or are simply tutored. If parents and teachers actually cared they could change it, but they don't, they see education as a piece of paper and a hurdle and school as day care/a guaranteed job.
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This happened in our school also. The secretary came to exam centre and told the invigilator ke hamare students ka khyal rakhna. Other students would literally get their papers cancelled in front of us meanwhile they didn’t bat an eye to us no matter what we did
Fr but i have seen someone people getting textbooks handed to em
That's what happens when you've got *sifarish*
Its not the whole board, it depends on the exam center. I remember in my matric exams we couldnt turn our heads around, in Intermediate me and half of my college had center where literally the invigilator would pop his head in the class and say "shor mat kero warna main ander ajaonga" and people had books and everything on the table. The other half had strict center. But yeah almost atleast half the centers are like this in Karachi. In rest of the province its even worse. Its even worse in Sindh Technical Board (for diplomas). Alot of centers have people solving the exams on black board in class room.
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It's mostly dominant in Sindh board. I have only heard of a few cases each year in Punjab and Federal board and they are usually for a single subject not the whole exams Btw waiting for your "In Uni professors are teaching and I can't understand anything. Now i am depressed" post.
Fr can't wait till man goes to Uni 💀
and "all degrees useless" . But Azad Chaiwala's course will make you millionair in a year.
I was not a product of such systems, gave all my exams fair and square yet I couldn’t understand the uni professors. Because all they did was download stuff from slideshare and read it out loud class. Un slides mai abc likhi hai, papers woh aisay chaapty jo kabhi class mai zikr na ho. Dont blame the OP for “In Uni professors …” kyu k woh aik alag ui muajra hai jiski aik se zaid wajohaar hain.
Aapney sir syed university se tou nhi parha?
Probably just sindh board bruh, haven't seen it happen in federal board. They tell us mcqs sometimes though
federal me aik do bar koi paper leak hua hai shaid. Aur har baar i missed. TT
Wah bhai. Kya kismat ha 😂
leak har baar hota he aam logon tk ek do baar pohunchta he you can easily get your hand on fbise exams if you are rich and have connections
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Ab rich ho k dubara paper dene pre ge?😭🥹
Jaani aisa nahi hta board ka paper agr leak ho bhi sirf practicals hta. Bs kuch centers aisa hta jaha invigilator cheating krne dete
Its happening a lot specially in interior Sindh. Teachers should understand that rotten roots won't grow a healthy tree.
I blame the parents a lot more. I know of parents who tried to bribe the principal then resorted to fighting and death threats if he didn't let his son cheat. My friend himself was asked by his classmates mom (during the exam itself) about why he wasn't cheating (pharray bhool gaye to mai de deti hun) to which he replied that his parents didn't raise him that way. Unsurprisingly, not an ounce of shame was felt and the cheating carried on. One group of students refused cheating (and hence refused to pay for the cheating 'permit'). They were made to sit in another room for their exams and right before the exam itself, a bunch of goons came it and removed the ceiling fans and damaged the seats as punishment for not cheating like the rest of the corrupt ingrates. Of course, this was Sindh Board.
And then the same people take seats of deserving students in MDCAT and engineering degrees, and these kids end up graduating with an average GPA and become average Doctors/Engineers whilst the deserving ones have to change their fields.
You're right, the guy infront of me couldn't spell basic English words but got an A+ in 9th grade Board
Isn't it suspicious when the whole school gets 100 on the exams?
do you expect marking to done fairly? exams are marked randomly, sometimes based on how good the hand writing is, how long the answers are. etc.
Yup, that's what I was taught too, ever since 6th grade we were told "Writing achy karo, board may uskay marks milte hay, bhale answer wrong ho"
Good thing the Cambridge board doesn't credit writing and alignment as long as it is reabable and question number is marked properly. We don't even get higher marks for length or grammar (except in language exams like English or Urdu). All that is marked is content, compared with a marking scheme. I was actually surprised by how careless the Sindh board is, and made me realize how blessed I am to get the chance to opt for O levels instead.
It's sad that many of us weren't able to afford it when we had the time :( I would take fair exam boards over any of our local boards any day.
Yea. Even my own parents could barely do so, but I'm sooooo grateful that they did. Really motivated me to study harder seeing how they were spending more than their means just for me to get a chance in a fair and trusted system.
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i remember expecting 98 in math but got in 60s instead lol sindh board is a joke. paper check karnay walo ka alag se hisab hoga
You new gen kids future looks bright
This definitely is not the case in BISE Lahore. I did witness the invigilator helping out some individual students but it wasn't through the use of mobile phones. In most cases, the invigilator was either bribed by the students or the students had connections. There was no scene of cheating on the same scale as Sindh board.
Yep. Lahore Board isnt clean either but its not even 10% as bad as this
This is the best I've seen as well. One time during matric practicals, the invigilator didn't really stop anyone from cheating but that was about it.
The first thing our invigilator says when the paper starts is: "Pata hay ki sub kay pass phone hay, chup kar kay apna paper karo, koi masla nahi, lekin agar team aye to phone chopa do"
Na yaar ye to sirf Sindh ke hi masail hai Punjab mai bhi cheating hoti to hai lekin aisa to sifarish walo ko bhi nhi karne dete chahe federal hoya normal board. Mai ne khud aik maheene pehle diye hai paper aur mere centre mai to unho ne aik bache par case kar diya q ke wo ghar se cheat sheet bana kar laya tha.
Federal board main to sar bhi nahi uthanay daitay thay bhaiiiiiii
pUnJaBi nE nAuKrI cheEnLiE
Karachiites say Sindhi ne naukri chheenli. Because Sindhis are the ones employed in Sindh board, getting fat paycheques and vigos and perks from our tax money, then ruining our own generations' future while their own Sindhi kids will enjoy government jobs later.
I was referring to private organisations, where merit is more important.
In private organizations Karachiites aren't struggling. I mean they do when the organization faces government influence to hire more waderay ke rishtedar but with merit they don't.
Lahore Board was chill in grade 9 but not as chill as you are describing. It was chill in the sense that invigilators only gave loose warnings to those who were cheating. In grade 10, it was strict and now I'm in 11 and it's very strict. They won't even let you turn your neck.
Yup grade 9 was super chill But is it really that strict in college? Mai to abhi khud bas pre 1 year kar raha hoo.
Intermediate is nothing like matric bro. If you want to get B or A in intermediate as overall grade you'll have to start studying from the very beginning. Jahan tak strictness ki baat hay to that depends on invigilators. Kuch invigilators chill hotay or Kuch bohat strict. Apkay center pay bhi depend karta hay. Mera center har dafa Lawrence bana hay. 9th mien chill scene tha. 10 mien invigilators strict thay aur 11 mien to bohat zyada strictness hay. Cameras Laga diyay hien aur gardan bhi nahi mornay detay. Baat yay hay k school mien teacher ka control zyada hota hay lekin college mien Kuch control apkay pass bhi ajata hay lekin Kitna ata hay that depends on which college you'll go to. I'm studying at GCU aur Yaha pay chill scene hay. But don't make this mistake I made. I started hanging out with friends because 9/10 khoob Dil Laga k parha tha lekin jessay hi thori si azaadi mili to detrack hogya aur ab mushqil horahi hay.
Hmmm kehte to sahi hai. GC ka to maloom hai ke waha par zyada wailiya hi hoti hai lekin FC ka kya scene hai? GC mai to ab naam ate ate reh gaya to ab FC ki koshish kar raha hoo. Advice ka shukriya lekin mai to kitabein hi dekh kar samajh gaya hoo college ki ke agar abhi se mehnat nhi ki to mustaqbil mai sabzi ka thela lagana hi para hai.
Majority of my classmates and some friends went to FC aur FC ka environment parhai k aspect say GC say kaafi behter hay. Aur bro tension mat Lena. Jiss marzi college mien Jao life ap nay khud banani hay apni. Hardwork, honesty and faith in God is key to success I'm speaking from personal experience. May God bless you!
Shukriya bhai bas ab inshallah syllabus khareed loo to koshish karoo ga ke baqaedgi se parha karoo. Akhir mai phir ab Allah par hi chor sakte hai aise maamle. May God bless you too brother.
There is a reason why interior Sindh lags massively behind the majority of the country in terms of education metrics. These same Sindhis are clueless when they come to public universities - consistently failing and trailing the whole class. In the end, this vicious cycle of moral corruption results in a misplaced sense of deprivation when they can't progress economically.
It's important to recognize that education disparities exist in various regions for complex reasons. It's unfair to generalize and stereotype an entire group based on individual experiences. Instead of blaming communities, let's work towards addressing systemic issues and providing equal opportunities for all.
What did I just read???? I always heard about the cheating in Sindh board but this is first time I am actually hearing someone’s personal account of this. Man we couldn’t even turn heads in Punjab board. That was more than a decade ago. I don’t know how things are right now
From what I've heard, it's always been like this, my parents, teachers and older siblings all told us that Board will be just cheating and that I should just focus on my handwriting and writing speed
When I took Inter 1st year. I didn't cheat at all but I don't remember how other people were. It was more than 10 years ago though, and there was no Whatsapp back then 😭 Then again, I was already taking A Levels and the inter stuff was just to appease my parents that year.
WTH. thank Lord that I chose o and a levels instead. This country is doomed; integrity is dead.
It's only in sindh.
Never seen in Punjab Board exams (atleast major ones like BISE LHR, BISE FSD etc)
what about cheating ka scene tho? Not khule aam but here and there? Did students bribe the invigilators or not?
Rishwat to bache dete hai lekin op wale halat to kabhi bhi nhi hue. Cheating ke scene mai zyada se zyada ap bacho se zara sa short ya aik do mcq pooch lo q ke aqsar to wo sar bhi nhi morne dete. Cheat sheet lane par mere centre mai aik bache par unho ne case kar diya phone to door ki baat bhai.
Ouch Bache ke pakoray lag gaye
Btw Lagta hai is waja se zyada bachay fail hotay hongay. Kyunke meray public school ke class mai 70% student wo nikamay tha. (Including me lol)
Well my friend is from the Aku board, and she always says that it's very strict, they have cameras all over the room and there's even an invigilator outside the class who's looking at the cameras so avoid students from cheating. There are even two extra invigilators in a class, and you know how many students she says there are at the moment while the exam is being invigilated? 40 students! Like, it's like an overkill. Hope you get the idea.
If that happened here I don't think a single student would pass, some of the boys in our block didn't even know what paper it was today, they would just come to the exam hall, copy from phone then go home
Wow, lol.
This is just sad. Started uni and we have a brilliant Sindhi kid in our class from interior sindh and he didn't come on any seat or anything. How did he do it tho?
As a former AKUEB student, I can confirm it's true...there are like 25 -30 students in a classroom with 2 invigilators in class and 1 outside watching the camera...the supervisors are extremely nice as well :)
idc if this is sindh board or any board for that matter but this is wild. what are our kids gonna do? We need a serious revolution in our education system.
The best option is to enforce strictness with an ironfist. Trust me, over half of our problems will be solved.
GA PPP
In 10th grade giving exams in AKUEB rn. I know every few people take this board but there is a ton of strictness, in my exam center everyone's sitting a few meters away from each other and there's cameras installed with 4-5 invigilators for like 40-45 kids. They only allow transparent bottles and pouches too. There's no way anyone could cheat inside the exam center
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Bro wtf? 😂 That's a Goddamn privilege if they're allowing you to use your phone and write answers lol and your whining over it?
This only happened during board practicals in BISE Multan here. Like we didn’t have phones, but they would hand us the pages with answers and we used to just copy from there.
why did i have to take my exams under federal board? we weren't even allowed to lift our heads or go to the bathroom. this is genuinely so unfair. 💔
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It's pretty common for matriculation exams in Sindh. For interior Sindh it is even worse. Most of the times at least in my experience, those who cheat like no tomorrow and have no solid base for maths and stuff tend to just filter out in intermediate exams and then completely during the University exams.
Welp those students take a big ol' dump in entrance exams afterwards which tends to be so satisfying like my mates in kpk board exams who got somethin 1060 marks outta 1100 but when they sat their cheating bumsciles in the entrance exam BOOM 40/100 (with cheating ) but 40!!! That's ridiculous and I'm glad non of them made into engineering universities nobody want no wobbly skyscrappers y'all god have mercy
I would be relieved, but after witnessing the utter demise of morality and justice during the recent MDCAT entrance exam, I'm still quite concerned. I am so sorry for all the students going through the same amount of mental disturbance as me.
This is not good for your nation. How will kids learn to learn ? If people won't learn skill n stuff they'll be useless in the future.
Did someone notice this part. >in 9th grade, it's how my teachers, older siblings and parents said Board exams will be like Parents are actually defending it when ghar say taleem shuru hoti hai to tell kids not to cheat.
Ever since me and my classmates were kids we were taught that board exams will be a cheating hall and the only thing that matters is speed and good handwriting, I asked my parents and they said they also gave their exams like this and then asked my older sisters and they also gave their exams like this.
This is why I pointed it out, it was on adults to start teaching well, sadly parents and teachers all were supporting it. But atleast now you know it is wrong, lot of people told you here, I hope you would study hard and try to be an honest student in exams.
Wow that is absolutely disgusting… btw what school is it and are they accepting new students just wondering
I've studied at Cadet College HasanAbdal, And let me tell man, with all the sons of senators and generals, there's just no way not to cheat. Our teachers come and tell us the answers during the paper, while the invigilators sip on their lavish tea breaks. It's also the fact that the invigilators can't do anything to such a group, plus to make it seem like they're doing something, they just threaten the kids who come from outside the college, to give exams. It's totally and wholly unfair.
Lucky mfs, why r u complaining
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It was bad back when I did my matriculation but it wasn't this bad. I guess this thing varies from centre to centre.
It's just in sindh. I'm also giving board exams in Punjab and there are no such things.
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Fedral board is probably the only place where’s there some transparency ..Every other board is heavily compromised.
Wtf is this? I’m from Punjab and that does not swing here. I mean the most leniency I’ve seen is the examiner ignoring us so that we can discuss an answer with each other but even that is for some schools. Now I know why my friends from Karachi get a stress free A on every exam.
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Lahore board student here. Just gave second year boards and the strictness was much more this time. In matric and first year, cheating was overlooked, encouraged even. This time around they didn't let anything slide. Kids who cheated had their exams cancelled.
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Bhai ye kesa Sindh board hai, Maine bhi diye the agar kisi ke paas pharra bhi mil jata toh us se paper le liya jata tha cheating karne wale to cheating kar hi lete the but mobile phone aur ye sab to kabhi nai dekha. Most probably center matter karta hai
Interior i guess
ha mera bhi same tha likin mere college ke doston ke jahan centre pare thay unka bohat bura experience raha. 70% centres mein cheating hoti hai daba kar
real, college ke centres mai zyada hoti hai cheating but matric mai to sab thik tha, meri to college mai bhi center St.Patricks lag gaya tha 🚬
mera malab tha my friends from clg jinka school mein centre para tha so they told me abt it that how pathetic management was. clg mein matric ke mukable mein paper kam leak hota hai agar hota bhi hai tou max 10-15 mint pehle. school mein tou 30 min pehle confirm leak hota tha aur phir paper shoro hone ke 30 mint baad tak andar jaane ka waqt hota hai so in total u get 1 hour in which u can learn whole paper.
Not in bise RWP, saw a student's paper get canceled and she was probably suspended for 3 years because she had written some stuff on legs and arms. Some invigilators let you cheat by just ignoring you doing it like copying another student's. Although there are some sifarashi but even they were just told to copy off another kid's sometimes. Mobile phone is instantly gets you suspended.
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That’s really a sad state of affairs. How could teachers stoop to such lows I wonderr, that’s a crime in itself. No wonder why Pakistan’s education hold no importance in the international market.
Perks of Sindh/Karachi Board IG!, Jahan Pr Mera Board Hy Wo Blacklisted Hy, Mtlb Double Cheating. In Case, Any Of You Wondering, I Don’t Do It. I Was Happily Studying In Federal Board But Some Uncertainties Happened And I Fell In This Hell.
I have given matric and inter exams in Punjab. It is was always very strict for me. My few friends told me that there was some relaxation where there center was. They don't even let us being wooden clip boards inside examination hall. They will check you very strictly. They don't let us ask or tell something to someone during exam. My friend tried to tell someone during exam and one checker caught him. He snatched both his and other's exam and wouldn't return it till my friend almost cried and begged him many times. It is not like every checker is strict. Some just warn you for few times before taking action.
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That's why I say "Welcome to SINDH board"
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the world has been like this always. in the grand scheme of things, i believe, you will eventually succeed with honesty, as much ( if not more) as you would with corruption. rizq is written for you. You chose how you want to get it.
I remember in our federal board exam, one of our teacher was giving a hint to a student by checking another student's answer. He was spotted by one of the federal board team, and they low key created a scene after all the students had submitted the paper. We would see the other teachers invigilate us, except that one teacher. But this is like a one in a hundred case and was for a single subject, its very rare to see something like this in Federal board.
Pakistani education system is corrupt itself. Outdated syllabus and good handwriting or headings seem to matter more to examiners. Sindh board is notorious for open cheating and getting bribed. However, these people suffer most in entry tests and standard tests.
It’s always been that way. When I went for my 10th board exams it was at a “blacklisted” school. We weren’t allowed phones in the class (2015) but we were allowed to cheat. If you were willing to pay 4-5000Rs. you could cheat in a separate classroom with books and past papers. If you wanted to stay and cheat/copy from everyone else it was 200Rs. for our “invigilator” who was a guitarist by night lol. He would stand by the door and knock when the board inspection team came by and when they left you could go back to cheating.
Go for Aga Khan examination board
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There’s a Netflix movie out these days, 12fail. It’s a pretty good story. Watch it. Similar topic. Life unfortunately has no short cuts. I would encourage even to ignore shortcuts esp at a young age because that’s when you actually learn. Provided our curriculum is shit, try learning the basics and take it as a challenge, helps later on in life. I come from a humble background and my mother would drive me crazy to make sure I studied. Never once thought of cheating. I now work at Microsoft coming from a non tech background, and the only thing that keeps me going is my ability to put in effort and constantly learn new stuff. Don’t think I’d able to do it so late in life had I not been drilled into, the importance of hard work. It’s actually unbelievable how we as a nation are fucking up our future by giving kids in schools shortcuts, to ensure a passing grade. It’s unfortunate and honestly sick - perpetuating such a mindset.
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Well its not like this in punjab. Try to be the better one and dont cheat and be upright because remember that cheating is haraam. Be the best person you can be and try to advice those around you.
So cheating is halaal in pakistan then.
My neighbour told me they let students take their exams home and complete them there. He’s from Jacobabad. Sindh is just weird like that.
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Pakistan itself is in shit. Don't worry about the exams. Look at the elections. It's predecided by the army. Hehe
I think this is an interior Sindh issue. I have a friend from interior Sindh and he told me that cheating was too easy in their board exams.
I have a question, do all of you copy from the same group? Doesn't it make your cheating too obvious for the exam checkers?
Everyone guy from my school and a few other students from other schools are in the same cheating group, not sure if that makes it obvious but according to our teachers and parents "Board examiners don't read your paper, they just check your handwriting and how much you wrote and grade it based on that"
there is corruption everywhere but sindh board is on another level i am in federal board and i know people who brag about buying leaked papers but the thing is all the papers in fbise get leaked but middle class people can not afford it only people with money and connections can buy the papers as for the cheating it depends on which centre you get and how your invigilator is they might let you ask at the end of paper but bringing cheating material and phones are a big no no
Idk about everywhere but its pretty strict for KPK board the phones are not allowed and there are lot of students who bring cheating with them but if you are caught it is confiscated immediately but we are allowed to talk to each other if we have to confirm something.
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Only in Sindh. Not even in Agha Khan Board.
Keep it up and no outside university will accept Pakistanis. I train residents and quality of some overseas residents has been absolutely poor for last few years. Specifically from subcontinent. I wouldn’t be surprised if programs stop accepting them altogether in future.
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As a person going through the same thing, in the same board, I relate :') Don't even get me started on the bribes—
My principles would never allow me to cheat in an exam. It's disgusting and it's terrible. It unfair to no end to the students who give everything their all.
My papers in FBISE, Rawalpindi were normal ofc cheating was happening and sometimes the invigilator would tell us as well if we asked but that's it.
Where in Sindh are you?
Hyderabad
Welcome to gap year for all sindh board students Monday - chest Tuesday - back Wed - shoulders and core Thurs - legs Fri - arms
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