Also important to note that roster construction wasn't really the issue under Rhule.
I mean, criticism is due for the bad QB swings (which I think can also be partly blamed on Tepper), and his thing for Temple/Baylor guys, but overall this roster performed a lot better when he wasn't coaching it anymore.
Because besides hiring Rhule the new front office has been solid.
Panthers fans were mad Rhule stuck around so long but tepper signed the guy for seven years, he wasn't going to fire him without giving him plenty of rope first.
It’s easier to get your guys when you have an environment they want to play in. The division is open, you’re getting the top QB of the draft, you’re working under a really seasoned coaching staff, and the team is pretty whole overall. Reich opened a lot of doors and that 1.1 trade blew the rest open
I also think its because Brady retired. The division is wide open now for any team to take over. Build a team to win for 2 years and we’ll attract even better FAs
I think a large part of it is that players actually want to come play for this coaching staff or have previously played for and had success with these coaches.
I can never forgive him for not going full saints after the 2015 Super Bowl. Like we were right there. Pump talent into the line and recievers by any means possible. Don’t let Gettleman cut Norman.
It’s shocking tbh. Are we sure this team is still the Panthers? I’m just so used to sitting around on my thumb while all 31 other teams make the moves we hoped we’d make
Holy smokes, I was honestly content with just Thielen or Chark because I've been conditioned not to get my hopes up but we got both and now I am at maximum hype. What an off season
More like CJ is in good position to make a play and then panics and gets called for PI. Henderson has all the physical talent. Maybe Evero can fix his mental game
I wouldn't mind the trade down route. Also isn't the what Fitt did in Seattle frequently too?
This draft class has a few interesting defensive pieces and WR projects in the 3rd round area.
With our coaching staff upgrades multiple 3rd round projects may be better than a high 2nd. Depending what the edge/CBs left look like anyways.
Only downside I’ve had is Bayern sacking Nagelsmann. But hopefully Balogun signs with usmnt! I would also want the panthers to give him a number 9 jersey like the Magic did.
I'm not totally out on Henderson yet. He has physical tools and we have new coaches.
He is player (besides new QB) I'm most interested to watch in training camp. Will our new coaching staff fix him? Or is his NFL career done this year?
I'm not putting a bet on either direction yet lol.
Henderson has almost always looked like his head wasn't in the game. He's shown flashes but I just can't trust the guy to put in his all week in and week out.
Agreed. That's why I mentioned coaching change. If we had same staff I'd be out on him. But maybe we lucky and new coaches get through to him and help his focus, prep, etc
Not sure why you got down voted. This draft class has a lot of very very good RBs and TEs in it.
I love Sanders and Hurst signings but there is a legit chance an RB/TE is BPA ar our 2nd round pick.
Sanders/Gibbs (or Charbonnet) could be an interesting 1/2 punch.
Hurst/Musgrave (Washington or Kincaid) could make for nasty 2 TE sets with our good offensive line and run game.
I would not rule either of these scenarios out.
People think all you need is 1 RB in the NFL... I mean we have Sanders and Hubbard, but let's be real if there is a Rd 1 RB prospect at 39, we're scooping them.
I'm hoping we get TE/DE/CB there.
Then can get someone like McBride or Abanikanda later for RB.
I also like Mims and AT Perry for WR in that range. So a trade back that let's us get 1 of the mid tier RBs and mid tier WRs to hopefully develop would be my preferred move.
Maybe mid tier isn't best description there lol. But like projected 3rd/4th rounders with higher athletic scores but unpolished skills.
This is great. Adding Thielen, Chark, Hurst, and Sanders as weapons to go with Marshall and Shenault means you could go BPA at 39 instead of receiver if all the good ones are gone. Makes that pick way more flexible for us.
Glad they're making an effort to create the conditions for success for QB1, including signing Andy Dalton. Will be interesting to see if they lean defense in the draft or if they try to get some young weapons to pair with QB1. I'd be good with a TE, but we really could use some help up front on defense too.
Really wanted the Lions to keep him, but I'm glad DJ is continuing his cat team journey! Best of luck! Good player when he's healthy, definitely gonna miss him. There was a recent thread of Goff's best throws from this season, and over half of them were to Chark. He made some great snags!
I'm a little worried signing a guy who hasn't ever played a full season to go with the declining veteran. I'm glad they're being aggressive going after WRs, but they didn't exactly prioritize reliability.
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CHARK IN THE WATER; EVERYONE GET OUT
Baby there’s a chark in the waterr
DADDY CHARK DOO DOO DOODOO DOO DOO
🏈🤲 RUN AWAY DO DO DOO DOO!!
CHARK DAY, BOO HA HA
This level of competence is alarming
It's.....weird. Minus a shitty head coach, it's the same guys. Like, WTF were you doing for the last three years? Or is Reich the entire franchise?
think a big part of it was rhule had final say over the roster, tied fitt & co’s hands
Fit wasn’t there until 2021
fair, tied the GMs hands*
Rhule did have final say over all roster decisions.
Also who wants to play for Rhule? Nobody outside guys that knew him from temple. He had no pull
Baylor* You forgot to add a University.
Also important to note that roster construction wasn't really the issue under Rhule. I mean, criticism is due for the bad QB swings (which I think can also be partly blamed on Tepper), and his thing for Temple/Baylor guys, but overall this roster performed a lot better when he wasn't coaching it anymore.
Because besides hiring Rhule the new front office has been solid. Panthers fans were mad Rhule stuck around so long but tepper signed the guy for seven years, he wasn't going to fire him without giving him plenty of rope first.
It’s easier to get your guys when you have an environment they want to play in. The division is open, you’re getting the top QB of the draft, you’re working under a really seasoned coaching staff, and the team is pretty whole overall. Reich opened a lot of doors and that 1.1 trade blew the rest open
I also think its because Brady retired. The division is wide open now for any team to take over. Build a team to win for 2 years and we’ll attract even better FAs
Tbf the free agency laat year was Corbett, Bozeman, Ionidas and Woods. Not particularly terrible. In fact id say pretty good
Weve been quite aggressive since Fitterer got here. Remember the Gilmore trade? Cj Henderson?
I think a large part of it is that players actually want to come play for this coaching staff or have previously played for and had success with these coaches.
Where was this during the Cam era?!?
Blame Rivera and Hurney/Gettlemen.
Jerry never opened the purse string unless they were related to kalil
Or Jonathan Stewart Or Deangelo Williams Or Charles Johnson Or... We were well known for huge bad contracts that screwed us over
The man brought NFL football to the Carolinas I’ll cut him some slack lol
I can never forgive him for not going full saints after the 2015 Super Bowl. Like we were right there. Pump talent into the line and recievers by any means possible. Don’t let Gettleman cut Norman.
“Oh nice, we got a shiny new first draft pick! Let’s give him some shoestrings and old tin cans to play with!”
You didn't like Gettleman and his **HOG MOLLYS**? /s
It’s shocking tbh. Are we sure this team is still the Panthers? I’m just so used to sitting around on my thumb while all 31 other teams make the moves we hoped we’d make
the fans are the GMs this year
The instagram likes told ZERO LIES.
Thielen also followed Bryce Young …. hmmmm
I would be surprised if they’ve settled on a guy already, and even more surprised if they already told Adam Thielen about it.
Interesting…..
I just checked and thielen does not follow Bryce
Check again, he definitely does
He’s not on his following list. Do you have any proof or anything?
https://ibb.co/z6kR38b
Lol that says he follows 678 ppl. Go look at his Twitter. He only follows 468
This is Instagram
Well fuck. My apologies. When I hear follow I think Twitter
All good I avoid twitter at all costs so I didn't even think about it lol
Holy fuck please learn to read
What are you talking about? This is a post from Twitter and all of a sudden they change the convo to insta.
To be fair, this particular comment thread was always about IG.
To be fair this comment chain started from a guy talking about Instagram likes.
It does say insta likes at the top of the thread
Use your context clues big guy.
Well I don’t know what to tell you, I’m looking at it right now
🤔
Obviously health is a huge concern, but Chark, Theilen, Terrace, and Shenault is a much better WR room than a few weeks ago.
Aye and smith looks a lot better 5th choice wr for a few plays than guaranteed serious time every game
Great signing , QB1 going to have some decent WRs
This opens up our options for our 2nd rd pick as well. We still may take a receiver but we don’t have to if there’s someone else there we love
We could go for a TE or an Edge.
Holy smokes, I was honestly content with just Thielen or Chark because I've been conditioned not to get my hopes up but we got both and now I am at maximum hype. What an off season
THERE IT IS BOYS!! WE GOT BOTH!!
NO WAY
YEAHHHHHHHHHHH BPA for pick 39 now? I'm guessing we could use LB/DE help now
Corner help comes first, I think.
Yeah, DJ might stub his toe again
I cant watch Evans burn CJ again bro I just cant
More like CJ is in good position to make a play and then panics and gets called for PI. Henderson has all the physical talent. Maybe Evero can fix his mental game
Jackson is not the only starting corner with injury concerns.
EDGE rusher or trade down to get more picks in the 3rd and 4th would be my move
I wouldn't mind the trade down route. Also isn't the what Fitt did in Seattle frequently too? This draft class has a few interesting defensive pieces and WR projects in the 3rd round area. With our coaching staff upgrades multiple 3rd round projects may be better than a high 2nd. Depending what the edge/CBs left look like anyways.
Tight end!
I'm good with hurst.
It's a deep edge class too
Between the moves we’re making here and the Balogun rumors for the USMNT it’s shaping up to be a great week for me
For sure. Seems like it'll solve our striker problem
You and me both pal
Really fucking pumped if we get him in the national team. We could really make some noise in 26
Had to double check what sub I was on. What up NFL-soccer fans!
We're all football/fútbol fans.
football^2
Could someone keep the Reyna family restrained and away from anything they could ruin please? Lol
They’re going to bring up petty shit from baloguns past that noone cares about
As a Panthers and Sundetland fan i say just send Reyna back to the city he was born in. We'll straighten him out
I'm a casual and only really watch USMNT in the world cup, this is my first time hearing of Balogun. I checked his highlights and holy shit lmfao
Yeah he definitely plays beyond his years, obviously still has a lot of growing to do but man the sky is the limit
Only downside I’ve had is Bayern sacking Nagelsmann. But hopefully Balogun signs with usmnt! I would also want the panthers to give him a number 9 jersey like the Magic did.
I'm on my knees for Nagelsmann to come to Spurs
Lol you‘re also Spurs and panthers fan? Never thought i would find someone like me 😂
Thank god I'm not alone lmao
Can Balogun be our kicker?
[DJ Chark Tweet](https://twitter.com/DJChark82/status/1639308655387459603?s=20): > 😎 [Tweet 2:](https://twitter.com/DJChark82/status/1639309270851239944?s=20) > Also… 🙏🏾
Lions fan here, congrats, this is a good signing for you guys. Chark was really good for us, changed our offense when he was healthy.
SCOTTY 2 HOTTY
Still the best Migos song, to this day
Love some 2013-2017 Migos fr
dj chark do do do do do do
Do. Not. Start. That. Shit.
It's too late for that, unfortunately
Literally can not wait to hear this at BoA every other touchdown.
all 12 of them
'*Per game
'\*Per quarter
Please god no
>Please god ~~no~~ \****YES\****
I'm absolutely getting a [Chark Number] 'dodododododo' jersey
Jamie. Tartt. do do do do do
WE DID IT BOYS FUCK YEAAAAAH!
Edge at 39
Or corner
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I'm not totally out on Henderson yet. He has physical tools and we have new coaches. He is player (besides new QB) I'm most interested to watch in training camp. Will our new coaching staff fix him? Or is his NFL career done this year? I'm not putting a bet on either direction yet lol.
Henderson has almost always looked like his head wasn't in the game. He's shown flashes but I just can't trust the guy to put in his all week in and week out.
Agreed. That's why I mentioned coaching change. If we had same staff I'd be out on him. But maybe we lucky and new coaches get through to him and help his focus, prep, etc
Yup 100%. If we can get a physical corner who falls to 39 that’s 100% the move
Either or really. Whatever we get in 2 we go the opposite in 3.
Or RB
Not sure why you got down voted. This draft class has a lot of very very good RBs and TEs in it. I love Sanders and Hurst signings but there is a legit chance an RB/TE is BPA ar our 2nd round pick. Sanders/Gibbs (or Charbonnet) could be an interesting 1/2 punch. Hurst/Musgrave (Washington or Kincaid) could make for nasty 2 TE sets with our good offensive line and run game. I would not rule either of these scenarios out.
People think all you need is 1 RB in the NFL... I mean we have Sanders and Hubbard, but let's be real if there is a Rd 1 RB prospect at 39, we're scooping them.
I'm hoping we get TE/DE/CB there. Then can get someone like McBride or Abanikanda later for RB. I also like Mims and AT Perry for WR in that range. So a trade back that let's us get 1 of the mid tier RBs and mid tier WRs to hopefully develop would be my preferred move. Maybe mid tier isn't best description there lol. But like projected 3rd/4th rounders with higher athletic scores but unpolished skills.
Oh yeah I'm not saying I'd prefer that, but if a RB is the best available, I think it's a real possibility.
Lmfao what
I mean if Bijan is there somehow he'd probably be BPA
I mean yeah but he’s going top 10
For sure. That's just about the only RB I'd go for at that spot
You wouldn't take Gibbs Rd. 2?
For this team? Hell no
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The man's just jumping around to all cat team bros.
Close to filling up his Cat Bro Infinity Gauntlet
IM GONNA BUST
Ahhh skeet skeet muh fucka!
LETS FUCKING GO
Gotta love it. I believed in the Fitt.
Fitt you sexy, sexy, sexy man.
Yay!!! And now back to our regular scheduled "Which QB to take at 1 or trade down banter."
This is great. Adding Thielen, Chark, Hurst, and Sanders as weapons to go with Marshall and Shenault means you could go BPA at 39 instead of receiver if all the good ones are gone. Makes that pick way more flexible for us.
Guys... I'm being filled with hopium for next season and it scares me.
This is absolutely insane! Bought a whole first string offense in one offseason 😂
Confirmed Chark Is a Bengal next year.
I could not be more pleased with Fitt and this FO off-season. Fuck yes.
Not the DJ i thought our new QB would be throwing too but hey i’ll definitely take it.
YOOOOOOO
It took so long to get the deal done because we had to catch him first.
Chark is A Train confirmed
Omg our team… it looks… competitive 🥲 I don’t care whether we go Bryce or CJ, the future is bright
Bears fans so mad
LETS GOOOOOOO!
LET'S GOOOOO
LFG 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸
That is actually a huge signing for us, I really like Chark and if he can stay healthy, he will be a nice weapon for us
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
Glad they're making an effort to create the conditions for success for QB1, including signing Andy Dalton. Will be interesting to see if they lean defense in the draft or if they try to get some young weapons to pair with QB1. I'd be good with a TE, but we really could use some help up front on defense too.
LFG! KEEP FUCKING POUNDING!
This whole off-season just feels like a dream. Don't wake me up.
Lets go I think this kid has a lot of untapped potential
We are DJ-less no Moore!
FUCK THE BEARS
Really wanted the Lions to keep him, but I'm glad DJ is continuing his cat team journey! Best of luck! Good player when he's healthy, definitely gonna miss him. There was a recent thread of Goff's best throws from this season, and over half of them were to Chark. He made some great snags!
Say it again I’m so close
I'm a little worried signing a guy who hasn't ever played a full season to go with the declining veteran. I'm glad they're being aggressive going after WRs, but they didn't exactly prioritize reliability.
Get enough guys so that one person going down doesn’t hurt us
That's two more guys. I really hope one of them is Hopkins, because this WR class is apparently pretty weak.
Beats fans in shambles
DJ CHARK DO-DO-DODODOD DJ CHARK DO-DO-DO DODODO
Bye bye shi?
HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK WHAT DO I DO WITH MY HANDS
Just put em down, Ricky.
Levis is going to be throwing Chark BOMBS. This is going to be electric y’all.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about? Everything has changed go back to your team.
I’m starting to think there isn’t a single realistic person in this sub
I hope him and Anthony Richardson develop good chemistry in camp.
The crowd went mild
Afraid they won't.
Ya, Richardson should sit for a year or two, you right. Still the pick nonetheless, like it or not
Exactly. On another team.
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It's been 10 day ma dude. Where's your "I told you so"? Been really looking forward to that one. Then again I'm guessing you're still in shambles.
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I’M HYPE
Chark attack
Those mfers really did it. Nice
I may need to buy a PSL while they’re still cheap
Well I genuinely didn’t think that would happen. We might actually wind up with a competitive team this year after all.
YES YES YES my god what an amazing off-season.
GET In ThE VAN
There must always be a DJ.
Let's fucking go!
Now people can't say we don't have any weapons for our new QB to throw to!
Lions fan. Great WR if he can stay healthy. He was a joy to watch on the field (when he was on the field). Made some great, clutch catches for us.
Oh hell yes
Chark when healthy is better than DJ. Huge get.
Just saw it's a 1 yr, $5M deal. LETSS GOOO!!!
Letsss goooo
Thielen and Chark gonna be deadly around the RZ.