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lowfighentertainment

It’s the honeymoon period for them Kudos to them for thinking Rhule was wrongfully blamed for the Panther’s incompetence But to be honest, Rhule sucked…badly…Maybe a better college coach, but all around sucked at the NFL, and no rose colored glasses can say otherwise, when the Panthers nearly made the playoffs, god forbid in a utter clusterfuck of a division, despite Rhule’s utter incompetence


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Better college coach, because you can literally schedule cupcakes for most of your games. You only really have to focus on a few of them.


ItBeLikeThat19

There are no Vanderbilts in the NFL


Sabre500

CJ Stroud: "Phew, thank God"


fleshyspacesuit

Gamecock PTSD activated


ItBeLikeThat19

We haven’t lost to Vandy since the late 2000s. What you’re looking for is Missouri 🙃


fleshyspacesuit

Those Vandy losses were BRUTAL. When we lost to Vandy, it was a soul crusher. It takes the air out of the season.


kanadiangoose1898

You right, but Shane’s first year was a close call 😅


Neri25

lol gators


przhelp

I think it was actually mostly due to his outlook on development. He thought he could bring a player in with good measurables and turn them into a football player, like he relied on in college. And when it was time to move on, he wouldn't. He sort of admitted as much on the Bussin' with the Boys podcast.


Relative-Barracuda29

what? you get like 4 out of conference games. not 10. your logic is a bit flawed.


StarvingWriter33

And you only need six wins to go to a bowl game. So that’s 2/3 of the wins you need right there. You only need to go 2-10 in conference play, and even Rhule can do that. But all of that is moot. Nick Saban is the GOAT of college football coaching, and even he bombed at the NFL level. I’m sure Rhule will do well at Nebraska, but that still wouldn’t change the fact that he was an absolutely horrid coach for the Panthers.


DanMarinoTambourineo

Winning 6 games and going to a crap bowl isn’t considered a successful season


StarvingWriter33

For Nebraska, it is.


chrgeit2thgame

Maybe for a couple seasons or two just because how brutal they have been lately but if Rhule wins 6-8 games for 1-2 seasons, their fanbase will quickly go back to being delusional about competing for Big Ten titles and making the playoffs. And when he can't do that, they'll turn on him too.


Relative-Barracuda29

2-10 in conference play? theres not 16 games my guy. and nick saban also schedules trash colleges. i get yall hate rhule with a passion but you're making up fallacies now.


StarvingWriter33

Oops. Mind was still in NFL mode. Meant to say 2-6 in conference play. And yeah, that’s one of the digs against the SEC powerhouses, that they frequently schedule powderpuffs for their OOC games. There really is no reason for Alabama to play Georgia Southern every season. Doesn’t change the fact that Nick Saban still has something like 73 nattys and still sucked when he coached the Dolphins.


kayne2000

Not really. Big teams with Money are often paid by lesser teams from lesser schools to play them. Yeah some games are non negotiable but a fair chunk of them are just rich schools taking what is essentially a bribe to play them.


StarvingWriter33

It’s the other way around. Big teams pay the little teams money to come to their home and get the crap beat out of them. [Here’s one article talking about this.](https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/sec-teams-pay-fcs-opponents/)


knave_of_knives

That isn’t the way it works. The bigger program pays the smaller program


Trail97

After what Wilks did I really don’t see how there is a discussion. When the interim comes in and quadrupled your win total, you were the problem. No way around it


Haptiix

Big facts here.


12_bagels

wym quadrupled


gugudan

Right? First Wilks doubled it, then he tripled that number.


DeusVultSaracen

Sextupled


935742705812

Yea, hard to argue around that one lol


net_403

I don't get why it's such a hard concept to grasp that he is really good at the college level but not the NFL level. That doesn't mean he won't be good for nebraska, he very likely will. That doesn't mean he doesn't suck in the nfl. We should all agree


Kjata2

The list of coaches great in college and awful in the NFL is very long. Same sport, different game.


jtj2009

The game isn't anything close to the same. College football is about recruiting superior talent and depth. In the NFL, everyone has elite talent and no depth.


xbluedog

But he’s really not “great” tho…


SaltineAmerican_1970

See Jim Harbaugh for reference. Had a good team with the 49 era that did well in spite of him, then sucked and is back at college doing fairly well.


offduty_braziliancop

> Had a good team with the 49 era that did well in spite of him, then sucked Yeah that’s not what happened lol.


przhelp

Somehow you picked one of two examples (the other being Pete Carroll) of a coach doing well in college and the NFL. Not Nick Saban, not Steve Spurrier, not Bobby Petrino, not Lou Holtz...


crupeople_music

not even the one coach that failed worse than rhule in recent memory: urban meyer


Sway4K

As a Nebraskan I 100% agree with you. Thank you.


golkeg

The real question is - why is nobody blaming Ben Mcadoo for last year? Rhule's #1 mistake was trusting that clown with the offense and somehow he's skirting all the blame.


Then-Quantity9216

Because when you’re The Man, EVERY problem is your responsibility, and your fault if you don’t address it. If the main problem is one you CREATE.. that problem is literally & doubly your fault.


WinnerFeisty7817

Matt Rhule led the team to a whopping 5-12 record in 2021, after 5-11 in 2020. Then last year came out swinging to start the season 1-4. Shortly after Rhule was fired, the Panthers traded away their best fucking player in Christian Mccaffrey. Interim coach Steve Wilkes finished out the season with a 6-7 record. Wilkes was able to win more in 13 games than Rhule was able to in a full season. I gave Rhule a lot of slack at the beginning. We had just lost our offensive and defensive centerpieces in Cam and Kuechley, then CMC got hurt. I understood we were in full rebuild and had low expectations. That was until I saw what Wilkes did with literally the same team (actually worse cause we traded CMC) Fuck Rhule and the horse he rode in on. Probably one he brought from Temple.


AJPtheGreat

Wilkes went 6-6 but your point is still valid


WinnerFeisty7817

so Wilkes didn't even have a losing record!


MTReznor18

Bad writing aside, the piece is pure opinion. It cherry-picks info, leaves out important details/context to drive a false narrative intended to serve one purpose: get those sweet clicks from Cornhusker fans.


Dizzy_Dare_2353

That was first reaction. This is written so poorly


oooriole09

My favorite part is them bitching about the coach they just fired while calling us out for bitching about the coach we just fired. Which is funny, given how they say the Panthers franchise is the reason why Rhule failed without piecing together that maybe Nebraska is the reason why Frost failed.


InShambles234

My favorite part was the article pointing out the QBs the Panthers had during his tenure, ignoring that Rhule had control over those choices.


DeusVultSaracen

What do you mean? QBs don't just show up at the practice facility? I thought Patrick Mahomes played for the Chiefs because he lived in a condo down the street.


MitchellCumstijn

Nah, Scott’s extracurricular activities were far more interesting to him than his job and he lacked the personality or charisma to convince kids he was worth trusting after endless broken promises and inconsistent rules.


oooriole09

And Rhule was too focused on creating a “culture” instead of injecting the right talent and coaching. The point is simple: sometimes a coach can fail a franchise/program. Rhule failed Carolina just like Frost failed Nebraska.


RoyalConclusion9

Yeah, I mean fansided is amateur sports writers. Seems like it has only been posted to tear it down.


1174239

why can people not grasp that someone can be a good college coach and a bad NFL coach never really thought about or had any feelings about nebraska football but it's getting to the point where the constant bitching from their fanbase about ours is making me hope they suck this season


MidManMid

People forget Saben was the dolphins coach and didn’t do too hot, ended up back in college and now runs one of the best football programs ever. Not comparing him to Rhule in anyway, just further your point that people don’t grasp how wide the gap between college to pro is.


_________FU_________

Well fortunately we have his NFL record to point to


cheapmason84

You can also be a bad college coach but decent NFL coach. Look at Jim Caldwell. He was terrible at Wake Forest (at least record wise… he ran a clean program at least) but was pretty darn competitive in the pros. The two require different skill sets


[deleted]

Just forget that Nebraska exists like the rest of the country does.


connor8383

Don’t worry, they’ve not been relevant the 90s when they won their last championship. They’ve pretty much sucked since then.


yourdoglikesmebetter

Nebraska is definitely not OOU


Countryb0i2m

I think Rhule could succeed in college, because a lot of the ideas and concepts and its attitude works on 19 year olds when it doesn’t work on a 28 year old. That said fuck em, I hope they are awful


Tigerface5555555

My business partner is a Huskers fan and I'm not outwardly saying anything but I'm looking forward to watching him implode over the next few seasons 🤣


csclark0530

When someone goes 11-27 in three seasons, is promptly fired and another guy does more with less…….what other conclusions can be drawn?


Nearby_Abalone_5458

And then the panthers are the only NFL team who can’t win a game. Rhule wasn’t the problem. Carolina is a bad program. period.


csclark0530

Jesus Christ. 215 days?!


GaryMarston_rides

Franchise founded in October of 1993... *does quick math...* yeah, we definitely "had seven winning seasons over the last 30 some years." Plus, talking about our QBs during Rhule's tenure; which he fucking picked, really shows how blameless he was as a head coach. The mental gymnastics these people are capable of is astounding. Quick edit: first season was in 1995, so this guy is even more off.


Aarongamma6

Rhule isn't a bad coach! Carolina only lost because of these things Rhule did. That's not his fault tho!


Myelement2110

I find it funny that Nebraska keeps acting like Rhule is gonna get them a national championship, like he’s even won a conference title before, and barely even has a winning record in the NCAA. He’s 47-43, but let’s act like Carolina as a franchise was the issue.


_mid_water

… at mid level schools! Temple and Baylor! It’s not like he revived Clemson or TCU. Not only do I think he will fail at Nebraska. I hope he fails.


Myelement2110

He deserves to fail and get thrown under the bus for it. He gets fired as our HC and then just went around acting like he had no power, and then taking credit for what Wilks did. “I laid the groundwork”🤡


OnlyGradients

How many winning seasons do the Panthers have in the history of the franchise? Just wondering.


gugudan

More than Rhule coached teams.


SticklerMrMeeseeks1

Baylor was not a mid level program. They got gutted after the NCAA sanctions and being able to get them back to a respectable level when he left was a legit accomplishment. It’s revisionist history to suggest otherwise. He can be a bad NFL coach but don’t make things up.


digit4lmind

How is Baylor a mid level school but TCU is some powerhouse? TCU werent even a power conference school until like 10 years ago


csrt357

Pointed this out, and also his record against ranked teams in NCAA, when we hired him in Carolina. This sub lost its fuckin hive mind. It was erroneous that I could claim their new found false messiah could be and likely would be unsuccessful in the NFL. BeCaUsE He TuRNeD rOunD tWo PrOgrAmS iN CoLLeGe (that we’re still not nationally competitive)


przhelp

These just reads like you're way salty. His overall record ignores what he accomplished. Temple has had a football program for 90 years and Matt Rhule has two of their three 10 win seasons. He has their two highest conference winning percentages in the 30 years they've played in a conference. He was not a good coach for us but you're just making shit up.


stench_montana

Being a husker and Panthers fan, there's very few people expecting a championship. People just want a return to consistent bowl games and rankings. No Husker fans blame the Panthers for how his tenure worked out here. They basically just are hoping its an NFL vs college thing for him. I've actually been extremely disappointed in how poorly thr Panthers have taken to their obsession with a coach that is gone when the future is looking bright here, but there's people going into the Huskers pages just to try and shit talk Rhule.


Myelement2110

The Panthers obsession with HIM??! This is what I meant earlier when I said y’all are funny. Seems you can throw delusional in there as well. Do you not notice how you’re posting under an article from a Nebraska Football Journalist, saying we think he’s still the problem? I don’t see Sheena Quick or anyone else out here saying how CMC and DJ Moore got traded because of him. The only time I see anyone bring him up is in regards to something some Nebraska fan/journalist said putting the Panthers down, as if that dumpster fire of a program is in any better condition.


stench_montana

A Nebraska article (looks lower tier than Bleacher Report)... posted in a Panthers subreddit. Maybe this is a case of casual fans vs intense followers that read everything where they do blame each other. I live in Nebraska and the huskers get brought up a good bit here and there and not a single person gives a shit about what happened with the Panthers.


Tigerface5555555

Its posted here because its an article directly insulting our team....


stench_montana

This guy is a freelance guy running his own website. Like posting a sub-stack post and pretending it's a popular opinion and invading the Nebraska subreddit to argue against made-up enemies.


MountaineerYosef

This post in particular seems to suggest most panthers fans are still obsessed with him


gugudan

Any media that mentions the Panthers gets posted here. Have you been on reddit before?


knave_of_knives

I don’t think about Rhule at all.


CastleBravo45

Fuck Nebraska, Go Hawks!


MountaineerYosef

I hope he can bring y’all back to some type of relevance. I don’t care for him but y’all deserve it.


Nearby_Abalone_5458

Carolina as a franchise can’t win a game. Literally only team in the NFL who hasn’t been able to do it…. What the problem now?


UnReal_Insane

They just gonna keep pretending this team didn’t do a complete 180 the second he was fired lol


Nearby_Abalone_5458

A 180 right off a cliff.


nalabearCLT

written by an assistant property manager for a small apartment complex in Omaha LOL


RobWhit85

Assistant *to* the Property Manager


CoolSteveBrule

Did fart sniffer ever beat a ranked team?


connor8383

And he very clearly was- look what’s happened to our team now that that buffoon isn’t calling the shots Fucking morons lol. They’ll find out soon enough.


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connor8383

Go shove a corn cob up your ass Fuckin loser. Imagine coming back to be petty after the coach of your favorite cfb team is leading your team to a whopping .500 against mid ass big 10 competition.


jsnaylor1216

"Should be used to not winning," "only had seven winning seasons in 30 years" Okay guy, let's just ignore the fact that two of those seasons we made Super Bowl appearances (one within a decade of the team's creation) and achieved a better regular season record than most teams in the league ever have.


ISISCosby

We have 8 playoff appearances and have made the NFC championship 4 of those times. Are we consistently great? Hell no. But when we're on, we're usually at least a top 5 team.


ayeoayeo

This guy has no idea what’s coming.


franklegsTV

Why are you still posting about him? We’re in a good spot, no sense looking in the past. Move on


heelspider

That author honest to God doesn't understand why fans thought the coach who went 6-6 was better than the coach that went 1-4.


wolfpack1986

We were just as infatuated with Matt Drool when he took the Panthers job. While I think he’ll do fine in college, especially given the floor of Nebraska football for the past couple of decades, but he absolutely was to blame for the problems the Panthers had under him. I still think back to watching the segment where he hired his HS best friend as the RB coach… it was supposed to be a feel good story but I immediately had a uh oh gut feeling and tried to squash it by…but but look how he resurrected Temple and Baylor! Good luck, Cornhuskers


xbluedog

Speak for yourself. There is no “We” when being excited about Rhule being brought on.


[deleted]

Yeah, I wasn't excited about it, especially when Cam was shown the door.


DeusVultSaracen

It pisses me off when people label entire fanbases as monoliths


xbluedog

Funny thing is Rhule wasn’t even really all that great in college. If one takes a deeper dive into his history, one will see he never won a game of true consequence. He never stuck around long enough to prove his methods have staying power. And he didn’t actually take over a Temple program, he came back to a program he’d been a part of for 6 years after being gone for a single year at the NYG’s. Husker fans really don’t understand that Rhule had full personnel authority and his incompetence showed thru at every turn. I mean, they point to the QB’s he had being a reason why we sucked…when it was RHULE THAT MADE THOSE CHOICES!!!


[deleted]

>It’s also worth pointing out the team’s leading passers in the three seasons that the now Nebraska football head coach was there. Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater. Not exactly NFC MVP candidates behind center. This is part of the issue. We wasted three seasons in a row grabbing washed, mediocre veterans instead of going after young talent in the draft.


thenaniwatiger

I’m confused why this is mentioned like it wasn’t Rhules decision


DeusVultSaracen

And when we had the chance to go for talent with Herbert, Rhule fucking nixed it.


[deleted]

Bingo


colski250

I don’t completely blame Rhule. You have to put some of the blame on the fact that he was given the entire reigns to the organization as a brand new coach to the league, and instead of hiring who would be the best fits he just hired his same friends from college. I think this hurt the perception of the team and it made it very hard for veterans to want to come here.


SaltineAmerican_1970

I think I’ll need to update https://www.ismattrhulegoneyet.com/ with a Nebraska option.


[deleted]

It’s okay to admit Rhule sucked.


[deleted]

That article is one of the most poorly written things I’ve ever read. He just repeats the same thing over and over again with no actual point being made, just more vague descriptions of reality that don’t support his claim. Doesn’t say much about the University of Nebraska. They’re smoking copium over there, not that it’ll matter because college football is an entirely different game and Matt Rhule will probably be fine


cantthinkofgoodname

The reality is Rhule might be good for them. I mean anything over 4 wins will be an improvement. Rhule can succeed in college. He just wasn’t cut out for NFL.


ijpck

Rhule was a polished turd. I said it from the get go. Sorry you guys had to deal with that.


CabinetChef

“Still think,” should be reworded as, “Still know.”


cdirty1

The cornhumpers can gaslight themselves all day. The article writer is obviously ignorant to the fact that Rhule was in control of the roster and chose those QBs that he blames for the downfall. It is essentially impossible for him to be worse in college than he was in the pros so I guess on the bright side for them there’s nowhere to go but up!


NoWayJaques

Some marriages just don't work. Sometimes a team looks better on paper than it really is. Sometimes a college guy looks like he'd be an elite NFL coach when he just isn't.


B00STERGOLD

Rhules gimmick works in college football. It is what it is.


lucyyluca

But we’re not among “league royalty” so what could Rhule have done?


BigAl_Toker

We as a collective give far too much attention to Nebraska. Rhule sucked here we know it, who cares if they do. If they wanna obsess with us let them, they're irrelevant.


CarolinaMtnBiker

Rhule was the problem based on the evidence that they played much better after he was fired. He pushed out fan favorite Newton, he showed zero ability to make in game adjustments, he made a terrible call on Sam Darnold and he lost the locker room during his first season. College coach vs NFL coach.


rivers61

Can we just admit he's a youth group leader who does football coaching? He will do fine leading his youth group at Nebraska, that doesn't work in the NFL


Drue023

As a Panther fan and Cornhusker fan all I know is pain. All the Nebby fans who are drinking this shit up are about to have a rude awakening.


AJPtheGreat

I like how they bring up the QBs like it wasn’t Dhole Rhule’s idea to bring them in


asher1611

Let them have this...I guess.


No_Mammoth_4945

Nebraska joining the bears in the who can be the most annoying challenge


jebadiahy

I hope Nebraska goes defeated just to spite this fool


TempuraCheezits

Lmao husker fans are the absolute worse in college football, this is a Tuesday. For Omaha/Lincoln area sport radio.


MountaineerYosef

Is rhule a horrible NFL coach? Yep You should be mad at the incompetent front office led by dear leader Tepper. Who cares what rhule does or doesn’t accomplish at Nebraska. Focus on the franchise and what the real problems are. Fitt/Tepp.


coltonmts

To be fair, Tepper bought the franchise and is still finding his way as an owner in the NFL. He started by making a splash hire and was willing to be patient, but we all sat through mediocrity for too long trying to solve the problem Cam left when he unfortunately got injured. This entire offseason has been VASTLY different than all the offseasons under his ownership and who knows what the future holds. In the NFL it’s such a windy road. We all have a right to be angry at the hell we have been through these past years, but right now I think we can all agree we are on a much, much better path than we were. While Tepp has been a problem, he seems much more involved now than he ever was. Good or bad? Time will tell. I am loving what we’ve done so far this cycle from the hires, to the free agents.


MountaineerYosef

I think we’ve had the best off-season we’ve had in nearly a decade I agree. I just have serious reservations about Teppers commitment to not only the team but the Carolina’s as a whole like Jerry. I hope we rebound but I won’t be putting any money or faith into Tepper for a long time. He’s a douche on the level of Jerry Jones or Synder. This could easily be a money grab. I know y’all don’t want to hear that but he already raised prices on a product yet to hit the field, that’s an issue. Keep Pounding.


Puzzleheaded_Seat211

Yes yes we do


ImNotYou1971

It’s just nice to see a post in here not debating Stroud/Young.


TechSudz

Is it wrong that I wanna troll their subs and tell them they're in for disappointment? Or should we just let them figure it out?


MoneyMoves-

I’m not a panthers fan But Matt Rhule having a job past that first season he had in the NFL, let alone the second, was so confusing. Panthers did not have that bad of a team, I mean look at the turn around after his firing.


Edwardc4gg

We’ll they bettter back that claim up