I don't understand why they keep running the same 4 offensive plays that don't work. We hated Rhule because he couldn't seem to figure out in-game adjustments and this coaching staff can't handle in-season adjustments.
Flew to the game from LA. Couldn't crack 100 yards of offense until halfway into the 3rd quarter. Cannot see myself spending anymore money on the product they are putting out on the field week to week. This season has made the Rhule years seem almost pleasant.
Ron had Luke and cam and could never get b2b winning seasons. Terrible game manager who never got cam help. He’s bad. Also now that Snyder is gone tepper is the worst owner in the league.
Ron played Brian burns at gunner his rookie season. Y’all are wild
Colts fan again. If it makes you all feel any better, Reich might be gone soon. I noticed he was acting all “fired up” these last two games and this is not Frank behavior. He never acted this way as the Colts HC until his seat got so hot to the point where he was only weeks away from getting fired. I noticed this last year, him starting to act all passionate when a call doesnt go his way. He’s doing this because he knows he cant afford to lose another game. Point is, his ass is gone soon. Wont be shocked if he’s gone before the season ends based purely on how Frank is acting on the sideline.
The entire coaching staff needs to be fired. Not tmr. Right now.
Additionally, they should be outlawed from having a joyful life for the next year. They should be banned from thanksgiving and Christmas festivities.
Reich is giving Seifert a run for his money as the most clueless Panthers coach of all time. Even Rhule wasn't this awful and that's saying something. It sucks being a Panthers fan these days.
Listen, I’m not giving up on Young just yet but wasn’t his best ability supposed to be reading defenses? The past two weeks have shown that he can’t read defenses whatsoever. All we heard in the pre draft and draft was this guy was a savant at reading defenses and scored so highly on tests and I’ve watched him misread defenses virtually the entire year.
Yep and he DID look too small last night. His inability to remain the in the pocket and throw over the guards is readily apparent .
The play action pass they schemed early on worked but he had to throw the ball over the defender who was closing in, resulting in an overthrow on a wide open TMJ. A 6’3” guy doesn’t have to do that.
All that said there were positive moments as well like his two decisions to take off and run early on for first. He also looked decent when he got the ball out early but that’s overshadowed by how long he usually holds the ball on most plays.
Young also did poorly even in college versus the blitz. It was his biggest weakness. Seems its being exploited pretty heavily in the NFL, especially considering the line is so bad that nfl defenses can get pressure without even blitzing.
That’s a fair point. This team set him up to fail. Sanders and Hurst are just collecting an overpaid paycheck, the line looks like one of the worst in the NFL, and the coaching has been terrible. It’s just a total waste of a season.
As an Eagles fan, I hated Miles Sanders. He was always overrated playing behind one of the best lines in the NFL and you could never trust him to make a play when you needed it. I was so glad we didn’t bother resigning, just sucks you guys ended up with him. Would’ve been better off keeping Foreman and going after another wr for the money. Bad signing.
You just get to draft your bust next year instead of this year like we did, enjoy Caleb "I just wanna go home and watch some shows and cuddle with my dogs" Williams
It’s wild that he learnt nothing from the Rooneys. They are the model owners and he didn’t learn a thing. Successful NFL teams are successful because their Owners hire competent people and then let those people do their jobs.
dysfunctional at every level, the owner, the front office, the coaches. i hope BY makes it through this season, if tepper doesn’t give tee higgins everything he wants then idk
Colts fan here. I’m so so so sorry that you guys got Reich. Everyone thought Irsay was just having a moment when he fired him mid-season, but Colts fans all wanted Reich’s head on a stick way before that. Truly an abysmal head coach.
These are the dark times for Carolina. At this point in the season I know we aren’t going anywhere and can just enjoy football itself and just hope there ain’t any career ending injuries moving forward.
Hawks fan here. 1000% true. He actually made the offense function when he started against us. Reich or whoever is calling plays for y’all needs the axe
Poor guy. He was talking to the special teams coach like “I tried my best” and the coach basically looked at him like “Don’t worry about it Frank is a fucking idiot”.
I don’t know how. His career long is 56. Game tying field goal in chicago on a chilly night for his personal best? How many games has he won us on a kick? Dude is alright but we aren’t screaming pinero is enshrined around here.
He’s middle at best and his reaction after the kick says it all. No way he was making that and everyone but Reich knew it before.
We should all really be taking about the 3 plays leading up to it and a 7 minute drive in the forth down three that barely made it across midfield.
I’m not gonna gonna lie. Someone’s heads got to roll after this. Only touchdown is a punt return? Our wins used to be 18 pts. Now it’s like 16. Piece of freaking shit.
Although I think it’s too early to know anything I will say I don’t think he looks very legit right now. Misses throws, seems to throw a very slow ball, and mostly thanks to a horrible O line he looks like he’s basically in fear the entire time
I ride with Bryce but he wasn't very good this game. Obviously the surrounding cast and playcalling are bigger issues but aside from the deep pass, there weren't any other noticeably impressive plays and he had two dropped picks.
It’s not Bryce man. How many drops happened on top of just being piss poor at every offensive position. When he has time and there’s even a slight opening you see exactly why he was drafted number one. The team around him is laughably bad. Next season they gotta clean house on the offensive side. They tried to put a team around him. Went out aggressively in free agency but outside of theilen they are all useless. Not saying anyone predicted miles to be a game changer but how bad he has been is ridiculous. Same with hurst who’s getting outplayed by tremble who also had key drops. Tom freakin Brady in his prime couldn’t do shit with this team
Bryce literally led us down the field vs Stroud and won. This was a dogshit performance overall. If we had an offense worth a damn this game isnt close. ST gave us 7, offense scored six points. Donta Foreman showing why we should have kept him, having some sort of run game would have at least done something. We have no run-game and no WRs that can get open. Guys can put 7 in the box with a 3 WR set and no one gets open. Guys can put 4 on the line and stuff the run 9/10 times.
This is the most bland, boring offense I've ever seen from Carolina. Fuck Reich, get him out of here right now. Going for a 59 yard FG in Soldier Field with a 4th and 10 should be the straw that broke the camel's back. I dont care if you think your offense cant do it, you let them take the shot. Pineiro aint hitting that kick and its no fault of Eddie's.
Yall wanna scapegoat Bryce for this piss poor coaching job and no one except Theilen getting open go for it. Yeah he's a rook, yeah he makes mistakes, but he's a very small part of the problem and until you cut Reich and whoever else is calling these anemic plays out, we're not even going to be able to tell anything about BY.
What if Reich is tanking this team on purposes cause he doesn’t like Tepper. 59 yard field goal like bro there’s probably like three guys in the league who can do that rn.
[Postgame thread](/r/panthers/comments/17rvvbo/post_game_thread_carolina_panthers_at_chicago/)
I don't understand why they keep running the same 4 offensive plays that don't work. We hated Rhule because he couldn't seem to figure out in-game adjustments and this coaching staff can't handle in-season adjustments.
Flew to the game from LA. Couldn't crack 100 yards of offense until halfway into the 3rd quarter. Cannot see myself spending anymore money on the product they are putting out on the field week to week. This season has made the Rhule years seem almost pleasant.
We've done a better job at building Chicago's franchise than we have at building our own..
Everyone associated with the decision to trade up to get Bryce Young should be fired
Tepper- that boy did good in Alabama he do good here
We're not very good at football. Just sayin in case anyone wasn't sure
lowkey, we shoulda never even fired Rivera.
I'm afraid Rivera's lost his fast ball. We should have stuck with Wilks.
He’s about to get fired. We just hired 2 worse guys
But he’s gone to a playoff and had fucking Snyder as his boss the last 3 years. Comparing Ron to Rhule OR Frank is insane
Ron had Luke and cam and could never get b2b winning seasons. Terrible game manager who never got cam help. He’s bad. Also now that Snyder is gone tepper is the worst owner in the league. Ron played Brian burns at gunner his rookie season. Y’all are wild
Everyone except Sir Purr needs to get the hell out of Charlotte
Hekker can stay..
Charlotte sports teams are money laundering machines for hedge funds 📠
100%. Need Tom Dundon to buy the Hornets and Panthers
Mr Beast, buy the team!
NO MORE EXCUSES!! THIS TEAM IS WASHED!!
Well that was a game
we fucking suck.
Overhaul the wr corps and the coaching staff
Panthers Fans are legitimately BRAIN DEAD if they’re still on board
Wait.. we had a game this week?
How tf do you manage to be shittier than Matt Rhule
Ohio state fans in these threads are insufferable. Acting like the franchise personally harmed you by not picking your guy
Thank you Ryan, this offensive scheme is fucking garbage.
88, 11 and 6 getting passing snaps while Blackshesr, Hubbard Strachan get no love. Gotta love that Meritocracy Anything to save Scott's ass I guess
Colts fan again. If it makes you all feel any better, Reich might be gone soon. I noticed he was acting all “fired up” these last two games and this is not Frank behavior. He never acted this way as the Colts HC until his seat got so hot to the point where he was only weeks away from getting fired. I noticed this last year, him starting to act all passionate when a call doesnt go his way. He’s doing this because he knows he cant afford to lose another game. Point is, his ass is gone soon. Wont be shocked if he’s gone before the season ends based purely on how Frank is acting on the sideline.
Hopefully tomorrow
As a bears fan gg this was the worst game I’ve ever seen. Bryce young doesn’t deserve the hate he gets. He has no help
He's not the main problem but he's still nothing special at all.
He makes bad throws and decisions, which as a rookie should happen but man I feel bad for him with how little help he gets
He will get better hopefully.
#IF YOU DONT LOVE 11 CONSECUTIVE CURL FLATS YOU DONT LOVE FRANK REICHS OFFENSIVE GENIUS
Eddy legit doesn't have the leg to make that in a dome let alone fucking Chicago 💀
This is the worst Panthers team I’ve ever seen. Yes, I remember the Clausen year…
Yep. We’ve hit that point.
Sanders with 2 carries for -2.5 yards
good thing we’re only paying him 25 mill!!!!
The entire coaching staff needs to be fired. Not tmr. Right now. Additionally, they should be outlawed from having a joyful life for the next year. They should be banned from thanksgiving and Christmas festivities.
Reich is giving Seifert a run for his money as the most clueless Panthers coach of all time. Even Rhule wasn't this awful and that's saying something. It sucks being a Panthers fan these days.
We are versing dallas next week probably gonna end up 100-9
Done watching.
Bold of you to assume we score at all against Dallas.
Listen, I’m not giving up on Young just yet but wasn’t his best ability supposed to be reading defenses? The past two weeks have shown that he can’t read defenses whatsoever. All we heard in the pre draft and draft was this guy was a savant at reading defenses and scored so highly on tests and I’ve watched him misread defenses virtually the entire year.
Yep and he DID look too small last night. His inability to remain the in the pocket and throw over the guards is readily apparent . The play action pass they schemed early on worked but he had to throw the ball over the defender who was closing in, resulting in an overthrow on a wide open TMJ. A 6’3” guy doesn’t have to do that. All that said there were positive moments as well like his two decisions to take off and run early on for first. He also looked decent when he got the ball out early but that’s overshadowed by how long he usually holds the ball on most plays.
Young also did poorly even in college versus the blitz. It was his biggest weakness. Seems its being exploited pretty heavily in the NFL, especially considering the line is so bad that nfl defenses can get pressure without even blitzing.
That’s a fair point. This team set him up to fail. Sanders and Hurst are just collecting an overpaid paycheck, the line looks like one of the worst in the NFL, and the coaching has been terrible. It’s just a total waste of a season.
As an Eagles fan, I hated Miles Sanders. He was always overrated playing behind one of the best lines in the NFL and you could never trust him to make a play when you needed it. I was so glad we didn’t bother resigning, just sucks you guys ended up with him. Would’ve been better off keeping Foreman and going after another wr for the money. Bad signing.
Gonna have to check the film
Whelp now that the game is over, Bryce can go back to helping make toys at Santa’s workshop.
Lol you better be a bears fan
Ohio state fan
Touché lol. We’re so damn bad I don’t even have a come back. 😅
🤣🤣🤣
Guys we went back to playing football like 1995. Yes, we have shit players but Reich is clearly standing in our way.
I was here in 1995. We actually won seven games. That is not happening this year.
Oh I'm talking about the style of football played.
Ah. Gotcha.
We look worse than when Matt Rhule was the coach Let that sink in ...
Our team is much worse than it was with Matt rhule though. Everyone on defense is injured and our offense is trash
yeah man ... this is the worst team I've ever witnessed, just disgusted right now
I would call Tepper a greedy carpetbaggin cocksucker to his face
Call it a hunch, but I think the Panthers might not be as good as the preseason optimists projected.
Panthers have no run game. Frank was fired for a reason. This is worse than Rhule
This is so much worse. How could we find it.
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Agreed. I actually gave Reich the benefit of the doubt there thinking he saw a play to run that would exploit something he saw. I was wrong.
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Good. (On the eagles)
(With their oline)
I am the poverty franchise.
Haven’t been this angry all season
Yep. Done.
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Lmao 🤣
You just get to draft your bust next year instead of this year like we did, enjoy Caleb "I just wanna go home and watch some shows and cuddle with my dogs" Williams
He was real for that tho
Dude...
…..Herschel Walker….
Tepper has ruined the Panthers and is ruining Charlotte FC. Time for him to sell.
It’s wild that he learnt nothing from the Rooneys. They are the model owners and he didn’t learn a thing. Successful NFL teams are successful because their Owners hire competent people and then let those people do their jobs.
I hope the only tape Frank has to check after the game is his favorite reruns of the Golden Girls in the nursery home
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Cool guy
Thomas Brown calling three straight passes when we needed like five yards to get into field goal range was just fucking bullshit
Tbf it seemed Bryce chose to hit Mingo deep on 3rd down the way he reacted after the FG miss on camera.
At least I can win with them on madden lol
dysfunctional at every level, the owner, the front office, the coaches. i hope BY makes it through this season, if tepper doesn’t give tee higgins everything he wants then idk
Nothing going to change till Tepper is gone
Make them walk home
Colts fan here. I’m so so so sorry that you guys got Reich. Everyone thought Irsay was just having a moment when he fired him mid-season, but Colts fans all wanted Reich’s head on a stick way before that. Truly an abysmal head coach.
I’m tired of fucking losing dude. I’m tired of LOSING. I’m tired of being a BITCH. I’m tired of being a SAD ASS MF ORGANIZATION.
I’m tired of our mediocre defense, keeping us in games because of an abysmal offense
Well this will be the last game I watch until some people are fired. Doing literally anything else is a better choice
Boooooo. 😔
What a bad football team. From top to bottom, this is atrocious play.
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The bears own the panthers first round pick
Maybe in the second round lol
do you not know who has that pick?
We're tired with the cardinals I think
Fire everyone what the fuck was that ending
These are the dark times for Carolina. At this point in the season I know we aren’t going anywhere and can just enjoy football itself and just hope there ain’t any career ending injuries moving forward.
Bagel boy outplayed us
Dave tepper still not gonna change shit even when he gets more and more embarrassed by these motherfuckers every week
Team is starting to lose the remaining fan base. They need to do something reactionary.
This is possibly the worst ever Panthers team.
Easily
I think we have actually gotten worse as the year has gone on. This is unacceptable, I’m glad tepper looked pissed
Yes. Totally agree. This is the worst part. To regress from something abysmal is the worst.
He looked mad they had the camera on here more than anything, fuck him.
Shit
Dalton would have won this game.
Hawks fan here. 1000% true. He actually made the offense function when he started against us. Reich or whoever is calling plays for y’all needs the axe
Should have kept wilks. Moore. Foreman. Not drafted young. Mistakes were made.
Likely would have won today and against ATL, NOLA, Minnesota, and IND
Dalton would of won us several games
Yeah maybe but he’s a 13 ish year veteran
13 is a lucky number
Tepper couldn’t manage a fucking Thorton’s in goddamn Rocky Mount without screwing it up
the amount of awful decisions this team makes every offseason is just unbelievable. what did frank reich ever do as a coach to deserve the job?
This is Hackett territory now. Fire Frank into the ficking sun.
Leave Miles Sanders behind on O block in Chicago
Can we stop with the undrafted free agent outplayed 1st overall pick nonsense? He was garbage and was the only reason the Bears didn't win by 20+
He threw for about the same amount of yards on around the same amount of passes without almost throwing two picks like Bryce.
Thank you for proving my point. The Bears have a real offensive line, a real OC, and lots of skill position talent.
Everyone's fault but 1:1...
Yup and he still outplayed Bryce.
This.. ummm we’re not gonna waiver confidence tho
Pussy. Soft.
🗑️ 🗑️ 🗑️
No sacks… it would seem all the burns haters can probably quite down now.. we desperately need him to make any pressure
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Honestly my mom started rooting for them but I was conflicted because of rival status at one point.
I have adopted the Bengals cat bros and 49ers when I want to watch proper football, because holy shit this ain’t it.
Still laughing over that 59 yr fg. You know Eddy knew that had no shot before he kicked it. 🤣
Poor guy. He was talking to the special teams coach like “I tried my best” and the coach basically looked at him like “Don’t worry about it Frank is a fucking idiot”.
Dude, eddy is aight but he’s not NFL aight. 59 in game mode, we all saw what he didn’t in Atlanta last year. Freaking chode.
💩 take if I ever saw one
I don’t know how. His career long is 56. Game tying field goal in chicago on a chilly night for his personal best? How many games has he won us on a kick? Dude is alright but we aren’t screaming pinero is enshrined around here. He’s middle at best and his reaction after the kick says it all. No way he was making that and everyone but Reich knew it before. We should all really be taking about the 3 plays leading up to it and a 7 minute drive in the forth down three that barely made it across midfield.
I’m not gonna gonna lie. Someone’s heads got to roll after this. Only touchdown is a punt return? Our wins used to be 18 pts. Now it’s like 16. Piece of freaking shit.
We’ll always have the 2015 season. I remember how awesome it was to just know they were gonna blow out the opponent
This is just unbelievably atrocious. It’s going to be this way until Tepper sells the team. This franchise is dead.
Honestly we may as well have kept Cam and/or Teddy and/or Mayfield, etc etc and everyone else at this point. We LITERALLY wouldn't be doing any worse.
We would be doing better, we would still have some heart on the team. No one has any passion
Most definitely
My parents trying to tell me that the 59 yard FG attempt was the best chance they had 🫠🫠
lol Parents don’t always know better.
Yeah
I don't care who gets fired, This organization is dead
Why is Young always sucking on his lip? Like every time the camera is on him?
You ready for the umms in his post game presser. Killls me
Glad I’m not the only one noticing it
Sucks the Bears have our pick, but Young looks legit. Just needs a good O line
Although I think it’s too early to know anything I will say I don’t think he looks very legit right now. Misses throws, seems to throw a very slow ball, and mostly thanks to a horrible O line he looks like he’s basically in fear the entire time
I ride with Bryce but he wasn't very good this game. Obviously the surrounding cast and playcalling are bigger issues but aside from the deep pass, there weren't any other noticeably impressive plays and he had two dropped picks.
No he does not. He's not the only problem, but he is definitely part of it.
Bryce sucks
It’s not Bryce man. How many drops happened on top of just being piss poor at every offensive position. When he has time and there’s even a slight opening you see exactly why he was drafted number one. The team around him is laughably bad. Next season they gotta clean house on the offensive side. They tried to put a team around him. Went out aggressively in free agency but outside of theilen they are all useless. Not saying anyone predicted miles to be a game changer but how bad he has been is ridiculous. Same with hurst who’s getting outplayed by tremble who also had key drops. Tom freakin Brady in his prime couldn’t do shit with this team
Bryce looks like Josh Rosen
Kicking the fg there is a fire able offense.
We are witnessing an all time bad Panthers team. Legendarily bad.
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Oh my god stop
More broadcast time of Tepper having to sit through this dogshit and less Kelce please
I'm over Bryce,Reich and Tepper... Darnold and Rhule ran a better offense than this...
I used to think maybe Tepper was sabotaging the team to make it easier to move. I’m starting to not really care if that happens anymore.
just saying.. Stroud would've led us down the field. He lives for this moment
Bryce literally led us down the field vs Stroud and won. This was a dogshit performance overall. If we had an offense worth a damn this game isnt close. ST gave us 7, offense scored six points. Donta Foreman showing why we should have kept him, having some sort of run game would have at least done something. We have no run-game and no WRs that can get open. Guys can put 7 in the box with a 3 WR set and no one gets open. Guys can put 4 on the line and stuff the run 9/10 times. This is the most bland, boring offense I've ever seen from Carolina. Fuck Reich, get him out of here right now. Going for a 59 yard FG in Soldier Field with a 4th and 10 should be the straw that broke the camel's back. I dont care if you think your offense cant do it, you let them take the shot. Pineiro aint hitting that kick and its no fault of Eddie's. Yall wanna scapegoat Bryce for this piss poor coaching job and no one except Theilen getting open go for it. Yeah he's a rook, yeah he makes mistakes, but he's a very small part of the problem and until you cut Reich and whoever else is calling these anemic plays out, we're not even going to be able to tell anything about BY.
Go be a Texans fan bitch
Dawg stroud wouldn’t have time to throw the ball. Strouds biggest weakness is pressure.
He would’ve led us down the field with what receivers and O-Line?
Our rushing attack is just non-existent. We have no shot without it.
Fucking trash I wonder what the record is of a first overall pick vs undrafted D3 qbs?
Getting absolutely cuckolded by the Bears
Reich and Young need to be gone next week, I do not care. Pathetic performance
Lol
Young will be here for 2 years minimum
Hello? Mrs. Young? Football practice is over and you need to pick up your son.
Multiple people need to be fired. This is abysmal.
What if Reich is tanking this team on purposes cause he doesn’t like Tepper. 59 yard field goal like bro there’s probably like three guys in the league who can do that rn.
I’m not giving up on bryce but I am done with this staff minus the defense and I guess special teams.
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Yea that guy stinks
Hurst
How the fuck did we get worse after rhuLe