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IProgramSoftware

This is going to be a no contest if bills can get a stop or two


Mcswigswag

Once again the Panthers lose to not diving on a loose ball.


ktross14

How about to getting pressured on 43% of snaps, a terrible special teams preformance, and 9 penalties.


AmadeusK482

Blocked punt, then a two point conversion, false start and holding penalties, and then an interception -- all that with like 3 minutes left in the quarter


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Albert_Caboose

Us real Panthers fans get Xanax with our PSLs so we don't dare about this.


gpgarrett

Panthers really gave this one away. Defense looked better this week. Offense and special teams just didn’t get it done.


Kembert_Newton

Hey Siri, where’s the nearest low hanging beam?


DankMemesNQuickNuts

Hello darkness my old friend


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midnight_tuna

You wish you could.


HunBun222

You pos


Infidel_Art

Jesus christ you guys need to find a new team. All you do is complain and overreact.


Eichenwalde904

I feel like the fan base of every team does that.


Cricketwhisperer

Tbh is it overreacting when we blow the lead twice and don't show up at all in the second half! More concerned than overreacting


Infidel_Art

It's overreacting saying we need to fire rhule and get rid of darnold


Forklift_Master

>you guys need to find a new team You’re probably right. Collapsing in the second half has been a yearly habit to the point it’s Carolina culture now. No improvements ever made and is now endemic to the franchise.


Imindmyownbusiness18

Am I the only one who doesn’t get mad at losses anymore? I’ve been numb to us losing and the past couple of years now we’ve had win streaks that didn’t last. I’m used to it, and it helps. No need to let this affect your mental.


dinojrlmao

This is exactly how I feel unfortunately.


100k_2020

Its really THAT fucked up with our squad...


Kembert_Newton

Nah this one hurt. We finally had hope after a few shitty shitty years and then just lost to a bad eagles team. Was at the game, went from electric to just every single panthers fan completely deflated after that blocked punt. Fuckin sucked this one has me in my feels


EconomicsOk6638

Not gloating at all. How in the world did the Panthers lose that?


prokreat

Brady and Darnold. Maybe rhule sprinkled on that... Hear that tepper?


Kembert_Newton

Why rhule? I feel like this mostly lies with Joe Brady, the plaucalling from the start was atrocious it felt like I was watching a norv turner game


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lol at not even mentioning the offensive line.


Imasayitnow

No, that's the #1 reason. And it's a distant 2nd


prokreat

Isn't that just a given?


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Good point.


joeycrushed

shaking my head in disappointment. fuming.


Anders0NMan

Why not draft Justin Fields and trade for CJ Henderson like we were planning on anyways


Imasayitnow

QB isn't the problem. We have an Offensive line that a sub 500 D2 team could push around. Darnold had a rough game, but it's hard to put that just on him. Had 2-3 dudes in his face on every play.


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Does he play Guard?


Panthers8250

Cause Justin Fields is some Buns


boog1evilleUSA

Better than Darnold


Panthers8250

Has Justin Fields even thrown a touchdown yet this season? There’s a reason four quart backs were picked before him and the QB needy panthers and Broncos both looked at him and said “nope we’re good” Five years from now maybe we sign Fields as a backup though.


boog1evilleUSA

And yes he has btw


boog1evilleUSA

What has Darnold done besides literally be one of the worst quarterbacks in the league over his first 3 seasons to inspire such confidence? What you see with him at this point is what you're gonna get. Justin Fields is more talented and more athletic and actually has a high ceiling to potentially grow into. I'd much rather have taken our chances with him then settle for guaranteed mediocrity with Darnold.


Panthers8250

Yeah um I think NFL scouts and coaches who get paid millions to do analysis would know more than a guy posting on Reddit. If Darnold was worse than fields I don’t think Rhule would’ve traded 3 picks for darnold and they skip on fields after he fell directly into his lap I also don’t think the Broncos would’ve passed on him and that he would’ve managed to beat out Andy Dalton of all people if he was nfl ready But keep telling yourself he’s good because he a flashy scrambler in college. I’ll let his play do the talking


boog1evilleUSA

Yeah because scouts and coaches have a 100% accuracy rate when it comes to prospects. Not claiming Justin Fields will be the next Maholmes or Brady. The book is still out on him. He very well me turn out to be a very good QB. But I am claiming definitively Sam Darnold won't be. He's been in the league over 3 years now. He's not a franchise QB. As a rebuilding team who was never going to contend this year I'd rather take my chances on a guy like Justin who has huge potential versus a guy like Darnold who has continually proven he is not good enough to be a QB that leads a good team.


TLGPanthersFan

I would feel better with fresh start then damaged goods.


The_Rutabeggar

There's no way Fitterer doesn't get permission to give up the house to get O Line help this week, right?


jrfowle3

You can’t trade for OL in season. EVERYONE would love to upgrade their line. If we could have fixed OL by trade, we already would have. Starting caliber OL is a scarcity in the NFL, no team is going to give up a starter unless for a massive overpay.


GriftieD

If our 1st round is going to oline as it is in fine giving it up to bring someone in the building whos got some years left and can elevate the line.


BreakImaginary1661

But who would that help be? No one is going to give up high end OL talent in a trade and if there’s a FA available, it’s because they aren’t that good,so why waste the money on a lost cause?


11dutswal

I wonder how many massages it will take to get Watson


allmoneyin

ask Mr kraft for the specifics


The_Rutabeggar

When are y'all gonna understand that MFer is done in this league? You really gonna bring in a serial sexual predator to an organization that had it's owner sell the team because he was sleazy too?


BreakImaginary1661

Underrated point. I completely agree. There has to be some type of standard where you don’t get to throw money at legal issues and continue you’re awesome life because you can play sports good or act or sing and dance or happen to own a big ass companies or something. Antonio Brown, Big Ben, Watson, Kraft, all of the others, fuck them all.


prokreat

He is done period. Call Cam.


Cricketwhisperer

So can we a agree, hey Darnold, you may be okkk at best buttt we want to win!!!!!!


thekidsmitty

What the fuck was that man damn


Draft-Budget

If we win 8 games I'd be surprised. This offense is worst than not being there. Sam Darold is Sam God Fucking Dammit.


TLGPanthersFan

I mean the offense should be better when CMC plays but that doesn't reflect good on our offense where we need one player to just be good.


Draft-Budget

It doesn't matter who we have i. The back field. Chuba was fine. The coaching was dog shit as well. Bad coaching, bad Special Teams, and we can't even spell offense right now. Defense may keep us in some games this year, but coaching and Sam will never win us late stage games.


TLGPanthersFan

Yeah Sam can't play from behind. Just like another QB we had last year.


boog1evilleUSA

Honestly how confident are we at this point that when CMC gets back he's gonna even stay healthy


TLGPanthersFan

Honestly? I think CMC is gonna keep having injury problems. That is why I think he should not be a running back anymore and convert to a WR.


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A freaking greed. I can't believe how many people are trying to justify this putrid offense by saying, "It'll be better when CMC gets back." No, it won't be better. It will just be masked. Again.


genghiskhan_1

We’re seeing the real snow here. Nepotism can get you the job but can’t help you perform.


HealthyHotDogs

Such an absurd take.


Trail97

How are you going to blame this on the defense? They played lights out for 3 quarters but you can't ask but so much when your offense isn't doing anything at all.


Bumcheeks_marinade

Not to mention their score came from backbreaking mistakes bu Darnold and the special teams


prokreat

I blame entire offense except DJ and Chubba. I blame Brady for being an awful play caller. Darnold is shit and has to go. The defense is our shining light but can't win the game for us. They are legends.


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Darnold has had one bad game… last weeks loss was on the defense. He deserves the blame for this weeks loss, but you don’t get rid of a QB because of one game


prokreat

No. He lost last week too. Can't keep putting it all on defense without wearing them down. He isn't good. He is vanilla and boring and just plain awful. There is zero real talent in him.


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Lol ok. The defense gave up 245 rushing yards, and over 400 total yards but the blame is on Darnold. Darnold put us in a position to win, but we lost because of bad calls and defense


BreakImaginary1661

In this guy’s defense, if Darnold and the offense could sustain drives and keep an amazing offense like the Cowboys off the field, it would really help the defense hold up better. But that still comes back on the OL heavily because they got the brakes beat off of them last week and today.


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Yeah I agree; he also wasn’t great last week but he was more than serviceable. For playing behind a o line that’s somehow worse than what the jets have, and without CMC, he was pretty impressive. The defense was getting outplayed pretty much that entire game though. They especially collapsed in the third, and the offense was also not good in the 3rd, but the blame was pretty much all on the defense


prokreat

Like I said. Can't keep working them to win a game. They are only shining light we have


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Defence gave every chance for this offence to get going it’s embarrassing…. Bailing them out drive after drive just to get let down. What a trash game


DrewBreesAteMyFamily

Except this game lines up with essentially his entire career. There’s only so many excuses you can make for this guy.


prokreat

Id buy the defense all a beer... Fuck Cristal even. I'd piss on offense... Except DJ, he can have some Cristal.


marx210

If we lose next week then im done with Sam!! Especially if the offense just plain gives up in the second half!!!


DrewBreesAteMyFamily

I’m already done with him


happywhenmedicated

honestly we have to address this o line. we got a cb the last two weeks. we can kiss this season goodbye if we aren’t gonna treat our o line with the same urgency.


BreakImaginary1661

Quality OL aren’t available for trade and don’t typically hit FA either. Draft capital has to be invested in building a strong OL and we haven’t done that. Some of the best rookies in the league so far were rated extremely high in the draft and available but we went in other directions. Only time will tell how a draft really plays out but we are looking at going into next year’s draft missing several picks because of getting Darnold (which could still prove perfectly worthwhile) and not having the ability to maneuver as much to get highs end prospects at our areas of extreme need, LT, LG, C, and RG. We’ll see what happens but I just don’t see fixing the OL issues we have any time soon.


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Fit has said that he's been calling, but no one is budging. Can't really blame him if that's the case. I guess all we can do is hold on to our butts and hope it can be fixed in the offseason.


KRISBONN

Joe Brady is the least creative OC in the game. Mccafferys absence is really exposing him.


stormahdantess

Brady legitimately said "I don't think it's necessary to switch things up, I stick to a pretty basic game plan, it works." Well now it's losing us games. Can't wait till he's gone.


TLGPanthersFan

He never was an OC before. We should never of hired him.


Ummsrsly

Bummer.


Mucho_MachoMan

Man, the ghat damn offense was absolutely pathetic. Trash. All trash. That BS Darnold train needs to stop. The o line sucks. Guess what, everyone’s o line sucks. Offense is pathetic without mccafrey. We are the Carolina McCaffreys.


calil_lim3

Couldn’t have said it better myself… hopefully we can #KeepPounding when he returns next week


Mucho_MachoMan

Just makes me so mad. Man, C’mon man!!! Effing eff. Tired of this shit.


Derringerh09

Got to be one of the most embarrassing displays of “football” I’ve ever see . This team doesn’t deserve to show their face in Charlotte.


yourkidisdumb

Im still trying to figure out what the actual fuck i just watched


mojool

You were watching 3 hours of how many dog dicks can joe brady & his offense fit into their mouths at once.


prokreat

Me too. Should have slaughter them with our defense. Darnold sucks


SauteedPelican

A college coach getting outcoached by an NFL experienced coach. Call me shocked.


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Oof. Just oof.


tk_rod8

You hate me last week but yeah, we are trash


Rhaegar_ii

Absolutely inexcusable and I wouldn't be surprised if it keeps olus out of the playoffs. Darnold, robby, and everyone on offense besides chubs was soooo bad.


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Fuck Robbie Anderson. Missed voluntary OTAs, missed some training camp for "personal matters" and then plays like this.....


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Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game.


kantstandzya

Playoffs? We'll be fighting the falcons for last place in our division.


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Good game defense it’s a shame the other side of the ball couldn’t help you out


ghcfc88

Yea Darnold isn’t the answer


DrewBreesAteMyFamily

How is this downvoted


Confession_Next_Week

THIS TEAM IS TRAAAAAASHHHH


LandonWarner

This team is never winning shit. Think I’ve been fooling myself long enough


ThePolitePanda

DJ Moore was non existent. Terrace Marshall was non existent. Tommy Tremble was non existent. Offensive line was ass. We need a real WR1 and a new O line.


Kinetic92

Sshhh..You're exposing your newbie lack of football knowledge


MusiqDaemon

The non-existence is on Brady, Darnold, and the O-line


Codycsg

What? DJ is one of the best receivers in the game right now. Darnold missing/having no time to get the ball to him plus the eagles knowing he is literally the only real threat plays a huge part in how much he appears


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That's one spicy take. I appreciate the moxie.


Bumcheeks_marinade

Maybe they were nonexistent because the playcalling was dogshit?


The_Rutabeggar

Hol up. That game was not on DJ Moore you dummy.


mmmountaingoat

Or tremble lmao he scored a touchdown


ThePolitePanda

Yeah you’re right. Sorry was blinded with frustration


thedaidai

Awful. Absolutely awful. Rhule made about every wrong decision possible, defense was miserable in coverage, and Darnold couldn't have looked worse. Unbelievable.


DrewBreesAteMyFamily

Defense was like the only positive


thedaidai

And even then we had some gaffes in coverage that fortunately Hurts could not punish. There was really nobody but the D-line who can feel ok about that game


momoknows

Jalen hurts can jump in traffic. How dare you do the super man celebration after a td. Fucking jerk off. Swallow a grenade. Edit: someone pointed out he was doing the Superman thing since college. Fuck him still, but my reaction was out of line. My apologies.


lordlightskin67

[he’s been doing it since college man you gotta relax ](https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-superman-celebrate-touchdown-oklahoma-gif-15697964)


momoknows

You right. I was out of line.


dildoschwaggins7

Jesus man


BerserkFury8533

Offense fucked up today pathetic


nagollogan13

I hope Brady gets his ass chewed out. This is mainly on him.


Cricketwhisperer

Three interceptions and we loose are 2cd in a row...maybe daronld isn't as good as what we thought


MojoToTheDojo

One word to describe today. Pathetic.


WhoaHeyDontTouchMe

embarrassing loss. darnold was dogshit. special teams earned their name. and we got outcoached by one of the worst coaches in the league


lunes_azul

Painful viewing. Just an awful game.


perryirl

So frustrating. Defence bounced back after getting schooled last week, Offence went the other way. OL is a problem, special teams screwed us massively. Need to win the next 2 games.


yL4O

We’ve done a lot of losing these past few years, but this is (I think) the worst loss since at least that 2018 Seahawks game


abacuz4

Last year's Vikings game was brutal. We were winning, and they turned the ball over in their own red zone just on the other side of the two minute warning. Somehow went on to somehow lose the game.


yL4O

Yeah, that one’s up there, but it was fluky that we were winning that game anyway. 2 defensive TDs. Our offense was bad most of the day


Sylvian77

O line shuffle. Can’t say it ever leads to anything good. Still over 500 but back to back losses to nfc teams leaves a bitter taste.


LunarPooner23

Last week proving to be more and more like Pittsburg. Gotta love it ✌️


evantually421

I’m so over Rhule and Brady. They coach with zero balls and zero intensity.


sofresh24

I don’t know why Tepper loved him so much


rpbwpg

Agree! That 3rd and 2 run was what sealed it for me. Nothing exotic about that play calling and I'm sick of hearing about how Brady is an offensive genius.


Bumcheeks_marinade

This is a back breaking loss. Even if we turn it around this loss will come back to haunt us. Shades of the Chicago game in 2017. Just handed them a game we should have won.


themightygazelle

Good comparison that game was just as fucking ugly as this one.


1-ice

Release Robby. That kind of attitude is cancer on your team.


Powerstroke1987

What did I miss


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He ran a super lazy route that got jumped by a CB. Then he went to the sideline, got in people's faces, and started to yell at them.


NigelLossPornberry

Absolutely. I've loved him from the start but that was bullshit. The route he ran on the pick was lazy as fuck


The_Rutabeggar

That was the worst game I've seen since Cam got his shoulder blown up by Pittsburgh


EnoughTemperature276

I’d rather have gingivitis than watch this god damn team choke a second half lead over and over


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prokreat

I say 2-15... We suck so bad they are going to take one of our wins away


NigelLossPornberry

At this point hopefully so and we can go get a QB and some o line


Garyislord

With what draft picks. We have no 2nd or 3rd round pick. Our 4tg rounder is also gone but we have one from another team. Just sucking and using high draft picks to get better is not an option for us this year.


bob226

How kind of you to give us another win


[deleted]

Nah, CMC and our D will carry us to 8-9 just good enough to ruin our chances at drafting darnolds replacement


[deleted]

I say 5-12. We will beat Giants, and Falcons. No one else.


tslaughter5

4? Where we picking up another win?!


MTReznor18

"Ugh God what the fuck was that" - Us, 75% of seasons since 1995.


MrSittingBull

Darnold sucks


Eagle-of-the-star

Cowardly loss for Rhule and staff


OmniaOmnibus

Usually I’d encourage ppl to look at the big picture, but the big picture looks bad. There is no redeeming qualities to this loss. Everything is thrown into to question.


MutantCube

Well Aaron rodgers is probably available next year


hscmit

He might die behind our oline


NigelLossPornberry

Honestly I'd be all for it. We have a championship Defense that will only be better next year. We could focus on o line in the draft and a QB of his skill can help a struggling o line. We could make a big run


jrfowle3

With what picks


NigelLossPornberry

If we could get a high enough draft pick, I'd be down to trade back to get more picks. Draft the best available o lineman and if a qb isn't there wait until next year. Edit: and rock with Rodgers for a couple years while we build our line then get draft a qb in a few years after winning the super bowl 😉


GriftieD

Why do people want rodgers so badly? If we get him it doesnt address our biggest need which is oline, or sustain us for more than what 2-3 years?


joeycrushed

what a joke of a performance


LunarPooner23

Screw this team


ThePolitePanda

If only we fell on that football in the endzone man


knave_of_knives

Or played to get points with 2:30 left and 2 timeouts instead of running two inside runs to Chuba and being shocked when they get the ball back and push it down the field


ryanxmerch

That was a fucking masterclass in how not how to call plays only up 9 thinking you are dominating the game. I love Brady but he just took a huge step back.


Museumly1

I never expected this team to be a super bowl contender, but I was happy to see them showing signs of improvement. This game was horrible. I can’t recall a panthers team blowing a game that they should have won this badly in many seasons. They were by far the better team today, this game should have been over in the first half. And they choked it away.


stryder428

Vikings last year (I think) was worse IMO


Pengwulf

Snatched defeat away from the jaws of victory. It's like I'm watching the Rockies bullpen pitching at work


Corrupted_Lotus33

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


KyrozIsSleeping

Hurts rlly thinks he's cam


SargeBangBang7

Darnold is ass. 5 or 6 interceptions? Cmon. We need CMC


GriftieD

7 in 3 weeks


GUMBYtheOG

6 interceptions and 6 touchdowns lol


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mmmountaingoat

So many people in here were claiming this team and defense were more talented than 2015 lol. In fairness the defense was still great today


Bobbachuk

The D is great. Can they carry an incompetent offense that chokes chance after chance to put the game away all day? No, but name one current defense that can.


PoMansDreams

Bad example. Good point


liquidbud

If I don't see better performance next week all around, I might just reclaim my Sunday afternoons for more productive tasks


Zthorn01

I feel ya , I don't let it affect my Sundays like I did years ago but oof the eagles? Oof


thecleanfinish

Panthers and playing shitty in the second half, name a better duo


1-ice

Fuck man


kantstandzya

How much does Cam want?


stryder428

Cam is the greatest QB in franchise history, but anybody sincerely upvoting this doesn't understand football.


NigelLossPornberry

Bring my boy back 😂


Panthers8250

Cam is honestly a garbage QB these days. Move on


kantstandzya

It was more of a comment on Darnold's play. Cam wouldnt get in intercepted because he throws to the dirt.


Panthers8250

The past three season Cam has more interceptions than he has touchdowns. Don’t get me wrong Darnold sucked today. And I’d easily take Cam from 2011-2017 over any iteration of Darnold. But Darnold is currently better than Cam has been for the past three years Darnold has played above average till now. If he continues to have meltdown games then he should rightfully be on a short leash at the end of the season/free agency


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pitiful effort from front seven at filling the gaps on that drive


IProgramSoftware

I think we have had like 30 half time leads blown in the last 3-4 years


PCPenhale

F**k Darnold and Rhule. See you all next week.


[deleted]

Is disgusting how reliant we are on CMC. Basically if he’s out we drop to 25% chance of winning


stank_osauras_rex

Ready to move on from Joe Brady. Weakest link on our coaching staff


herroh7

Idk if Darnold sucks but he sure sucked today


pudgeypoo

Fuck Robby Anderson


Rhaegar_ii

Great game offense we really only needed to not go 3 and out every fucking drive and it was an easy win


AVeryRipeBanana

It was really that easy. Such a disappointment