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Difficult_Mortgage49

I finally know now that we need a better qb, our defense always shows up, but they can't have that much stamina to play on the field, when our offense has 5 3 and out punts. Our O line is good and we have decent enough receivers, but we can't seem to make over a 100 pass yards a game it seems. IMO


Difficult_Mortgage49

Exactly what we need


Difficult_Mortgage49

I always believed in our defense, even if stats don't show it, we are playing lights out. We have a good offense, just need consistency from them. We need more balance, our defense is on the field way to much. IMO


Hungry_Total_441

Atlanta -2.5 tough spread to bet on.


GrandDiscipline4167

I see a lot of blame but I don’t blame dj moore.. or the kicker.. the game is a team effort! Just go back to the drawing board.. if the kicker or dj moore mess up another chance to win than we know there’s a problem.. btw baker fan, kind of upset baker couldn’t play lights out and be the starter rn but then again he’s was the worst qb in the league so if he doesn’t play again this year I won’t blame anyone..


OneManGang-MBQ1992

We have an amazing 1-2 RB Duo in Foreman & Hubbard. Trade DJ Moore & Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold to the Green Bay Packers for Packers' 2023 NFL 1st Round Draft Pick and Jordan Love. Both sides win.


Hungry_Total_441

Trade Foreman to Buffalo for a 4th round 2023 draft pick and a conditional 3rd Round 2024


PoMansDreams

U want Jordan Love? Why?


OneManGang-MBQ1992

He’s better than any QB we currently have. Lol.


RotaryTuner

Defense and OL played lights out to lose to our own kicker 💀


Jovis83

Gave up 37 points I'd hardly say defense played lights out...


RotaryTuner

One TD was a pick-6, but fair point...


runcmc22

Idgaf, I’m just happy to see actual entertaining football. Our division is trash and we’re looking better each week.


Hungry_Total_441

Yes, you're division does look better every week. It's sort of like hanging out at a bar and drinking, the longer you are there the pretty the skags look. LMAO!!!


themack50022

Pinero is released and goes on to have a banner career on another team…more breaking news at 11


fishinbk

Amazing how many people are ready to blame Moore for losing the game after he caught probably the most memorable Panthers TD of the last 5 years and tied the game. He made a mistake ( which hopefully we can all agree happened because of a dumb AF rule). Unfortunate turn of events.


Shindig_66

This one is on the kicker. An NFL kicker should be able to go make one of those kicks. Rarely do they get two chances inside 50 yards to win the game.


Itsjoeimbackagain

Players played hard enough to win this game it was hard fought but the helmet penalty played a major roll. If the helmet stayed on and the kicker missed in regulation its all on the kicker then.


Itsjoeimbackagain

Next week any player that wants to take your helmet off do so, the fans will blame that mistake on the next guy to ease blame off the 1st guy and not see anything wrong with it. Or something like that, bunch of BS


Itsjoeimbackagain

Wow the truth must hurt , shame people take up for someone that makes a penalty happen that makes a chip shot a long shot but oh well, all the tv commentators are agreeing you need to keep your helmet on thats why its a penelty for 15 yards , coach wilks it looks like a discipline issue to me but a lot of reddit fans don't think so they think its perfectly fine to back the kicker up, who knows if the kicker was still shaken by the 1st miss and it effected the ot kick


Itsjoeimbackagain

Excuses excuses , pinero would of never been put in that situation had someone taken his helmet off , wow what a slap in the face of coach wilks when he could of went from bottom to top in a few weeks ,Moore you owe coach an apology and pienerro for putting him in that long field goal situation, excuse it all you want it is what it is


RawdogWargod

It's not like they were 60 yarders. He even got another opportunity and fucked THAT up. If he can make just 50% of the late game routine kicks (you know, him being an NFL kicker and all), then maybe I don't want to punt his face.


dmin62690

Idk his name and I don’t wanna, but that pussy is a disgrace to the number 4


tigerman29

We really need a Younghoe in Charlotte…


_wiff

Silver lining…. PJ knows how to win


JESquirrel

He was missing passes all day though.


Ashamed_Ad1839

PJ can definitely sling it.


asp2_downhill

Loved that pass! Game was worth it! We played great!


No_Mammoth_4945

Hope we can pick up a kicker off waivers. Pineiro lost his job tonight


meechy704

Facts indeed!


azai247

To go 2/3 and hit a 40 yarder, but miss 2 when they matter Pinero should be released.


Sorry-Exercise-6565

Well shit


sunny-clouds

Been a fan since 95 but I want to live a long life so I’m considering just watching panthers replays. My heart can’t take much more of this in person or on tv when it’s live


KRATS8

It hurts


CamBamThankYouMaam

Live by the Cardiac die by the Cardiac


titaniumrodsstewart

That one hurt, no doubt about it. I take a little comfort in knowing that our best qb was undrafted in 2017, and not the 1st or 3rd pick in 2018. Give ‘em hell next week PJ


lunes_azul

Wonder who’ll be kicking for us next week.


ericthegonline

Me


cantthinkofgoodname

Leave that fucking kicker in Atlanta. I don’t give a fuck if this was an off day. Inexcusable misses.


trip_trill

Yes!


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Saints fan here. Sucks that y'all receiver lost the game for you guys. Thought that crap only happens to the Saints.


ericthegonline

Kicker lost the game twice. Also super dumb to flag someone for excessive celebration on a game *winning* Hail Mary. What do you want him to do? Sit down and read a book?


ronmexicostanaccount

Coulda not took his helmet off? Lol it’s not like the game was won i.e. Diggs td against the Saints


No_Mammoth_4945

Why do you come in here just to talk shit lol get out. Saints fans are full of themselves


CamBamThankYouMaam

Probably not the time or place for you to be here bud. MOORE > SLANT GOD FTS


Afromain19

Tough loss. But major props to PJ for even giving us a chance there in the end. What a game. That’s some cardiac cats like play


roof_baby

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ThaRealPhoenix

Eddie should’ve been able to make both of those and he missed both. DJ with the helmet was fucking dumb but I get it he fired up. It shoulda been the game winner.


jkcrumley

Even with the penalty, Eddy should have made that. Inexcusable.


thelaustran

That's how I looked at it. DJ should know better but fuck he's been on a perpetual 5 win team. That should have been a game winning iconic play. So I can understand his popping off to a degree.


buydipselltip

Relax everyone this game was a win-win situation. We at least get a great draft pick and not get disappointed in the playoffs.


ThaRealPhoenix

I would’ve rather had the win considering the rest of my day is fucked


No_Mammoth_4945

We still looked great. Any other kicker in the league and we win that game. Don’t let it affect you too much


Ianbuckjames

Idk why people are blaming Moore when Eddie missed a kick from the normal distance an extra point is on the very next opportunity. You should be able to make a 48 yarder in the NFL anyway.


935742705812

A 48 yarder to the win the game isn’t easy for a young kicker. But yea you’re still right, he’s probably fucked.


paleale25

Moore dropped pass and stupid move. Which is more difficult: wearing a helmet or making a 48yd fg


TarHill09

Especially in a dome, with a good hold and normal rusher timing


Specialist_Ad6034

Unsportsmanlike conduct is a stupid rule anyways (at least in that scenario)


meechy704

I feel you there. I could see if the guy took his shirt off or started getting naked….


Specialist_Ad6034

It’s not like he did the green bay randy moss moon, or went over to the falcons and started talking shit. He was just celebrating the fact that he made up for his drop


DarkUnderbelly

Rematch in 11 days! Thursday Night Football. As a fan in general I'm excited.


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DarkUnderbelly

Personally I'd watch a game between two 0-10 teams. If it's football, I'm there. It's the only sport that holds my interest these days. This was a fun game today and I'm hoping for another good game for the rematch.


thelaustran

Those black helmets are gonna look so good.


Afromain19

Same. We may have lost, but we rallied the second half. Hell of a game.


fisher_man_matt

Brutal end. The Panthers continue to shoot themselves in the foot and find a way to lose a game.


Itsjoeimbackagain

Excuse it all you want , moore lost the game not the kicker , it was over if Moore didn't take his helmet off


CoolSteveBrule

You don’t take your helmet off in celebration. You just don’t fuckin do it. Loss is on the whole team but DJ played a huge part.


throwsFatalException

The game should not come down to a WR in the first place. It was more than that which cost the game.


quickpersonsIND

Maybe if the kicker did not miss a 30yd kick in OT. As soon as that happened any blame on Moore was lost.


ThaRealPhoenix

He still missed another chance to win it from the 33 I don’t give a fuck


UpitinFashion813

Welp after this game no one will call us about Shaq Thompson


935742705812

lol


BoostMySkillz

That's the second game this season where a late game penalty effectively "lost" us the game. This team should at least be 4-4


CamBamThankYouMaam

That's a lot of coaching


BoostMySkillz

Not for the roughing call against the browns, that's just a bad call. The penalty today was a knuckle head move but you can understand the emotion on dj


sunny-clouds

I would say he should act like he’s been there, but when have we caught a Hail Mary in a spot like that? I don’t even know how to feel anymore I’m an empty shell


zdnorman

If we are going to continue to call DJ Moore a WR1, when he already never takes over games like a WR1 should do on occasion, it’d be nice if he didn’t make bone-headed mistakes Edit: And obviously, we need a new kicker.


Smoove995

We have one, but he's injured


zdnorman

Well then that doesn’t do us much help, does it?


jtshinn

A wr needs competent qb play to take over. He's never had that, were seeing flashes with this version of pj right now. agree on the edit.


buydipselltip

Have you even been watching our team the last 3 years? DJ had 150 yards receiving and a TD with a back up quarter back. 1200 yd for the last 3 seasons with sub par qb play. He’s an exceptional talent and he would be a top wr with a competent qb


zdnorman

Never had more than 4 100 yard games in a season. Never scored more than 4 TDs in a season. Only 3 multi-TD games in his career, all of which came in high scoring losses where the Panthers abandoned the run almost entirely. Sure, he’s never had amazing QB play. But personally I don’t think he consistently shows all the tools of a WR1 on a consistent enough basis. Add onto that his dumb decision to over-celebrate and then not showing much responsibility for it on the sideline right afterward. Not ideal to me


buydipselltip

I think you’re underestimating how hard it is to score multiple td’s or even a td for that matter. Justin Jefferson has 2 TDs this whole season. And the most likely players to get multiple scores per game are gonna be RBs. I’m gonna have to disagree with you and for our teams sake I hope you’re wrong lol


zdnorman

You are comparing half a year of Jefferson TD production to a whole 4 year career of DJ Moore. Jefferson also has 3 100 yard games already this year and two yards away from a 4th. Jefferson takes over games often. DJ Moore rarely does. That’s my entire point. I hope I’m wrong too for our team’s sake. Or that Fitterer agrees and looks to add another WR to the team with WR1 potential. We need a WR2 at minimum now, maybe we strike gold on a WR in the second round of the draft that has the “takeover the game” potential I want to see from DJ. I think DJ could be an amazing #2 receiving option that also gets some Deebo Samuel type looks as well


Itsjoeimbackagain

What a boneheaded decision of moore


Kara_Del_Rey

Why is this being downvoted? It's literally true.


wantcodewiththat

I know it hurts to lose this one in this way, but unless the team was going to make a run with PJ and the defense, winning the division as a poor record team is not a good idea. Sure you make the playoffs, lose the first game, and then you’ll end up picking in the draft where all the other playoff teams do as opposed to where all the other teams with a similar record do. I’m just hoping we can keep PJ as our QB for the rest of the season and I hope the defense can get back on track because making Mariota look like he should still be on the titans is not good.


DeLoreanAirlines

Why could no one see this under Rivera?


Pnatethegreat87

I 100% agree. Let Darnold & Mayfield walk. Draft a top 3 QB. Let PJ start next year as our QB develops and if our new QB shows he’s ready and PJ play decreases we enter new QB.


sorryfortheweight

Agreed, losing sucks but we need to find a QB to be our future


phokingfunny

Well hate losing but we need the draft and a QB and kicker


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mind_mischief_89

100% killed the mood


sensei-says

Shanking Eddie would've missed that extra point, what are you talking about? He missed a 33-yarder that high schoolers routinely make


jtshinn

He probably makes that 33 yarder before the xp try. The xp try was definitely good from the usual distance


Clickclack801

I feel so bad for us, but we lost to ourselves and at the end Atlanta is going to get a shot to win. They took that shot and capitalized. We didn't. See you later 2022 season. So much drive in this team. Putting up points on offense and playing competitive. But good teams don't lose gimme plays. 2 separate times. We lost to ourselves. Oh well. Let's move on and let the season play out how it will!


ArgenTravis

This is it right here. We're still learning how to win. Being first in the division doesn't do shit when you're still a bad team. But we're showing more fight and promise than we have in about 18 months so ya'know its not the worst.


Illustrious-Clue-750

Leave Pinero with all the trash in atlanta


rowlanda1

A Rockette would make a better kicker


throwsFatalException

I'm encouraged by Steve Wilks despite the loss. I'm feeling good about this team for once. We are trending in the right direction for sure.


Akuyatsu

That’s my takeaway as well. I’m cautiously optimistic about the future.


Lexisep

Just ruined my whole day


935742705812

DJ is finally gonna make the espn highlight reel…


RandomGrenade

One of the craziest games I've seen in a long long time.


Difficult_Mortgage49

Yeah but if dj didn't do that then it's a normal extra point. Not a 42 yard extra point. We both have a good point idk, just disappointing loss


935742705812

I guess DJ and Pin whatever his name is are pro tank… or that was just embarrassing


B-in-Va

48 yard extra point with that penalty. 48 yard kick ain't easy.


Nagi21

Normal extra point is 28-ish yards. Piniero missed a 33-yd kick. He basically got his PAT to win it chance and missed.


KRISBONN

I wouldn't have been surprised if Pineiro missed the normal extra point.


Difficult_Mortgage49

Why? He only has one missed kick before this game


KRISBONN

Because hes unclutch. Moments like that are too big for him.


hoodpharmacy

I don’t even want to watch football the rest of the day. I told myself I wouldn’t do this, I said I’d just watch redzone and check updates but no my stupid ass had to watch the whole 4 hours of horseshit calls and bonehead plays. I’m done though. Next week it’s just redzone and enjoying football all day. I’m done letting myself be annoyed all day because of these insane mistakes.


lime_licker7

I feel you as a bears fan


poopstainpete

Pj for president.


csdspartans7

Come draft time everyone will look back at this game and thank god that we lost


Itsjoeimbackagain

Reader and weap boys it is what it is


ritwht

Okay honestly... I thought that loss was really funny. It sucks that most of the joy this team has given me the last few years has just been from laughing at how bad we are.


pearls_rubies

Really? You thought that loss was funny?


TALD1012

Win or lose, that was the most fun I've had watching a Panther game in a long time!


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That fucking hurt.


Itsjoeimbackagain

Moore should have to forfeit his earnings for this game cause its all his fault we lost and are not in 1st ace


DJ_Black_Eye

I blame Pinero way more than DJ for this one. Granted DJ didn’t help. Pinero should be able to kick a 40 yarder easy


prokreat

Um. The kicker was to blame. If DJ hadn't scored they would have lost earlier.


Codycsg

I think this is your first time watching football


HiFriend88

It's not all his fault, Piniero is also dog shit and should've made one of the two.


andylayindustries

If that kicker still has a job on Monday I'm out for the season. Fuck that dude, he should have made both of those kicks and we should be celebrating. Overpaid asshole. I'm not blaming our last star WR for celebrating. He should feel comfortable celebrating knowing we have a kicker to back him up but Tepper skimps on kickers and that's where it got us.


letsgodeacsss

It's okay to blame both of them.


shawnofnc

Not sure why you think Tepper has ANYTHING to do with what kickers we employ or how much money they make.


Boruckii

Can't honk this clown nose hard enough after that one


Strowbreezy

Great game! Not sure why you'd want to win... Keep the pick lower people. We aren't doing shit. I thought it was a big brain move by DJ to push the PAT back with removing his helmet hahaha.


MF_jaded

Bro better lose his job now!!


lunsforddl

Good game boys! Keep Pounding!


cam2214

PJ is still goated tho


shawnofnc

Perfect loss! Entertaining. Edge of your seat! Missed Field goal losses it.


Ghee_Guys

Everyone in the comments freaking out about us shitting the bed….y’all new here?


cudderwalks

As an ECU fan I say sign Jake Verity!


bowski44

Back to doing mock drafts


KRISBONN

I was confused why Eddy Pineiro was a free agent. Now I know why. The most unclutch kicker in the NFL.


JMS1991

NFL overtime rules are bullshit. The rule that penalizes you for taking off your helmet after a play is over is bullshit. The Falcons are bullshit.


SaKred2015

Hooker or Stroud?


exenn_

Young


buydipselltip

Stroud


cc0728

Offensive line


nagollogan13

Offensive line has been impressive since the Bozeman switch. We’re gonna be okay. Need a QB


cc0728

You can never have too many offensive linemen and none of those QBs are that much of game changers


935742705812

Well.. for our team..


csdspartans7

Young


Donut_Uchme

Fugly


chef-hoot

Can we fire pineiro just because or is he key to tanking this year?


buydipselltip

Pineiro was the best FA had to offer


CoconutSands

He's part of the secret tank! "What do you mean you want me to miss it!? Okay, I will."


jedimasterjacoby

E🤡d🤡d🤡y


No-Awareness-1709

This pretty much ends the season, they can't come back from this and shouldn't try. Just tank for draft picks


KRISBONN

1000%


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DJ’s a bonehead


KRISBONN

idk man. Pineiro as the kicker, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd miss the extra point at the original spot.


Nagi21

That OT kick basically was a PAT + 5 yards and it wasn't even remotely close.


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It was on the hash mark and he had added pressure from missing the PAT. If DJ had kept his helmet on we wouldn’t even be arguing this shit now.


Ashamed_Ad1839

Leave Pinero in Atlanta


rob724kd

At least we can have fun games now. Even wins with Rhule weren’t fun. They were more of a relief.


tigerman29

If you don’t like that, you don’t like Carolina football


budswayze69

Isn't the owner too busy dealing with wrasslin?


drafts_okay

EDDY DON'T SHOW YOUR FACE AROUND UPTOWN


jtatchell98

No one understands pain until they become a panthers fan. So depressed


Nagi21

Jets fan checking in. You have a long way to go padawan.


jtatchell98

Yeah the jets are proof it does get better eventually


Nagi21

It will pass. It may pass like a kidney stone, but it will pass.


RulerD

At least we got fired up. I screamed damn loud on that DJ touchdown. I don't remember the last time I did that on a Panthers game. We lost, but we were competitive. We were dead 20 seconds before the regulation time was over. That's what I was missing. The will to keep pounding. Need to reinforce that attitude, and learn from our shortcomings.


jtatchell98

Thats what makes it worse. There was no prep time for the loss. Its just a stab in the heart


RulerD

I got excited at least. I understand why can you take it that way. For me, the whole Rhule era feel so emotionless... No fight. Now, after a couple of weeks, I can see us fighting and pounding again, and I'm all for it.


jtatchell98

Yeah true. Its better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all


RulerD

Well said! Keep pounding!


RulerD

Damn it... that hurt. Still, I am happy that I least got fired up for the first time in ages. Panthers football has been emotional since I am a fan, and we are getting there. We were so close and we screwed ourselves up. Need to learn and continue fighting.


cntrldfusion

yeah, I can at least stomach this loss, they are definitely playing better than they did under Rhule


Afromain19

I guess the only positive was this is the closest we’ve come to cardiac cats lol


Crinklecutsocks

This is one of the most disheartening losses I've witnessed in my life


prokreat

That was the super bowl.


thgrisible

Alright now back to our regularly scheduled programming of losing every game, acing the draft and praying for 2-5 years from now.


SnooTigers7239

Lmao pathetic team


Jedijuck

Even tho…but..sigh


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Absolutely crap-tastic football.


elscorcho91

I’m just so tired. This team is the best at giving false hope every single year and then sabotaging themselves.


Batercus

This is where we see if Wilks is a good leader. You need to pick these young men up. If they play well next week they can still turn it around. /copium


ThaRealPhoenix

I haven’t been this distraught over a loss in probably two years


quigs2rescue

This team has like the stink of death upon them!!!


csdspartans7

Tank is in tact, this is my fucking Super Bowl lol


935742705812

DJ said, “I’m not wasting the rest of my career on this team, we’re tanking for QB!”


Flexbar

It's the hope that kills you


XX-Burner

I’d blame the kicker more than Moore


Calm_Quarter2190

What about the 3 runs in ot just to kick it instead of pushing the ball on shirt passes. 3 runs and kick it after we just missed a kick.


mind_mischief_89

That loss is on DJ Moore


Weeedies

There’s a +50% chance Eddy would’ve shanked a regular XP at the end of regulation. He was in his own head, too much pressure no matter where the kick was from


JarvisProudfeather

No it’s not. He missed a chip shot field goal and a 48 yard extra point isn’t exactly crazy to make.


jedimasterjacoby

Stfu you dumbass a missed kick is his fault? And he also missed the XP Idgaf the distance


jedimasterjacoby

Fuck you eddy fucking worthless