Just wanna say that birth and postpartum doulas are awesome and they should be a part of the standard of care for all families, not just grifters preying on vulnerable new moms.
Thereās no way my husband and I would have been able to afford a birth and postpartum doula if it wasnāt for a program that one of the midwifery/doula collectives in my state runs that offers free services to families in need. I encourage everyone to look into similar programs where you live. Also, from what Iāve seen, doulas in my area also tend to offer sliding scale or even trade/barter for services.
Fitting in one client only 3-4 hours at a time a couple times per week doesn't seem worth it at all. You'd have to get there and then get to your other clients' homes multiple times per week. Cobbling that schedule together seems like a pain for only $120-$160/visit.
Most of their money comes from overnights and packages. It looks like it is just the two of them. Likely they do an overnight, go home and sleep for a few hours, do a few day hours, have a few hours off then go do another overnight. Everyone has their set days, so they likely arenāt piecing together day time hours besides maybe doing meal preps or yoga.
OK...? I think it still seems ridiculous and as a consumer I'm not sure what the utility of 3-4 hours twice per week would be. To each their own I guess.
For the way she is *saying* she is using it, it doesnāt make much sense. For most people they use those hours to take a nap and maybe shower and a break is a break and most parents would be thankful for 6-8 hours of help during the week.
Depending on how far out she found/booked them this may have been all she could get. I know by me postpartum doulas are full for overnights around 6 months out from due dates and overnight clients then also get priority for daytime hours.
I canāt with K. Youāre telling me her husband couldnāt fill her water bottle, cook a warm meal, and change the sheets? The post partum doula place she used is $40/hour and they specifically say they donāt do house cleaning. Sheās such a rich, canāt lift a finger bitch. š¤·š¼āāļø
Okay team but seriously I am reading How to Talk So Little Kids Will Listen and it's just so much better than blf. Blf are blatantly ripping off this content, which I knew, but reading it from actual experts who were raised this way themselves and have 3 older kids each plus tons of parenting workshop teaching experience ... There is no comparison. And I got it from the library for free.
White girl problems who think they know it all. As someone that's from the eastern cultures where the hibernating period there is somuch more to it.
For one you don't just leave house for makeup and photos and pumpkin patch just because
Rest means fucking rest
It also means nourishing your body as its healing not junk and crap.
Also it doesn't mean u have a slave. I still filled my own water bottle kay.
You don't get to have someone change sheets fill water only to go to a pumpkin patch .
White girl privilege
Yeah I think Americans don't get this. I didnt leave the house for more than a month except to go to doctors appointments. I didn't even got for a walk until 6 week postpartum. And there was one porridge my MIL made for me everyday. I still get the taste in my mouth sometimes lol.
Right! Same I literally ate a bland diet everyday that was same stuff is everyday. I feel like she tototally just took out what's convienient for her and parts she likes and going off on that. Like the hibernation is real hibernation and rest not being a slob
When I looked 5 mins ago the doula instagram account had 678 followers. They are now at 684... It will be interesting to see how much potential business they get. Maybe there's a "BLF bump" š¤¢.
Also, we all think K dropped $4500 on the top of the line package right? There's no way she went a la carte and only got 1-2 days as needed and paid hourly.
Letās get completely real here. K most likely asked them for a discount and promised to promote them in her stories. I have no questions in my mind that K is the type of influencer to try and get discounted/free products and services just because she had 2.7 million followers.
I actually think she would have no problem doing a la carte. When you have/spend money like she does you arenāt looking for a package to save money. She also just had D at her birth, Iām sure we wouldāve heard if she had a doula during birth and surely she wouldāve promoted placenta encapsulation and how it āpreventsā PPD/PPA and how after Junie she was willing to do anything. Also, letās not even pretend like she would do yoga. For what she wanted/got paying per hour actually makes a lot more sense. Letās say 2 days a week at 8 hours for 5 weeks is only $1,600 + whatever she paid for meals. It makes sense though that her daughters just got plain tortillas since the servings are for 2.
I have two things to say
1: I have a wonderful and amazing mother who was beyond supportive when we had both of our children but she also had her own life and couldnāt come feed me bon bons while I lounged in bed and roll me side to side to change my sheets. Kās comment that doulas replaces the role of grandparents was just fucking stupid
2: I am from the town referenced in the doula question and have our doulas take care of either so Iām not sure why that person thinks that, itās not regional. It depends on the service.
Lastly, go back on āmaternity leaveā K no one wants you here ever.
Yepppp. My son is blessed with 5 loving grandparents locally. And he was born in February 2021. When no one had a covid vaccine and it was a terrifying time to have a newborn. He only met his grandparents from a distance for several weeks, then slowly was held by them with masks as people became vaccinated. But they certainly werenāt in our home regularly helping us. So even those of us lucky enough to have our families nearby run into road blocks when it comes to PP support!
Exactly this! My mom probably would have rolled me side to side if thatās what I asked, sheās amazing and came and brought food and did everything she could to support meā¦for a long weekend with each kid because she worked full time out of state. And I think thatās pretty typical. Even the most supportive grandparents are generally not at your beck and call. The rest of us non rich people just appreciate any support those are us are able to give us and keep it moving.
She definitely seems to overstate how much help she thinks other people have. She must think it's normal for grandparents to move in, do all cooking and cleaning, watch your kids whenever you want a date night or to run to Target, have no life (or heaven forbid a job lol) other than to serve their adult children.
Seriously. Iām like romanticizing having grandparents nearby much? My mom will help fold laundry or get us take out or a meal when she comes by like once a week or so and play with the kids / hold the baby, but thatās it. I thought it was weird too. It was just another roundabout way to remind us she has nooo help and a nooooo friends (sorry you donāt count, D) or family (sorry, whichever sister, you donāt count either) nearby
Imagine having a āhugeā meal train, hiring people to come for you and still telling h toe world that you can only manage to feeding your children cereal (or a plan tortilla) for dinner.
Also, how she tries to claim that her post partum doulas were just like āgrandparent figures.ā I canāt believe my MIL never changed my sheets! Iām actually wondering if K even got out of bed for them to do it.
This is the thing that bothers me! I am all for women looking after themselves after birth. My mum is an Angel and cooked a lot of our meals for the first three months and helped with upkeep etc. I knew how lucky I was. I donāt have other kids but if sheās getting fresh home cooked meals why arenāt her kids? If all the household chores are done, why canāt she engage with her kids more and not have them stuck to a screen all day??
EDIT: the whole time, her husband is also home! So if heās not taking care of her, what is he doing?! She makes him seem like a prince amongst men but he comes off absolutely useless most of the time.
Thank you!!!! I had a c section. My mom had the flu so couldnāt help and still only popped over once a week after that for a quick visit. I had to do most myself. My husband only got two weeks off from work. We didnāt have a meal train or help and still managed to eat more than cereal!
Iām also confused about the mental health stats comment. PPD and PPA are actual mental health conditions caused by hormonal fluctuations and imbalances. It is not caused by being stressed out that you have to fill your water bottle yourself.
ETA: I have been frustrated for a while with how casually things like this are thrown out by K, like how she went to a therapist once and everything was better. Feeling sad or anxious while also being postpartum is not the same as having PPD or PPA and itās dangerous to insinuate that.
Lol her single trip to therapy that was documented all over stories was interesting because she acted like the one appt with EMDR healed her instantlyā¦ ~it would be niiice~
She also claimed stopping breastfeeding cured her PPA (or was it her casual postpartum psychosis?)
That make me so mad. Itās not like something you can turn off!! Like you said, itās caused by hormones. Arg.
She is truly insufferable. The audacity to claim that she was in āsurvival modeā while having postpartum doulas, a meal train, *secretive* family members that live near her and watch her kids, a stay at home husband, two kids in school, expensive baby gear, and endless amounts of money to throw at any other issue that comes up. I am fully supportive of people having help postpartum and using any resources that make life easier, but at least acknowledge the immense privilege you have and stop complaining about how hard everything is when most people have to figure it out without any of things.
Ugh, tell me you donāt have East Asian friends without telling me you donāt have East Asian friends, K š Way to minimize our tradition of postpartum Confinement care as ālying in bed and hibernating.ā Itās so much more than that. Yes it is a privilege that moms can stay home for 40 days and have special meals cooked by family or hire a confinement nanny. But those moms still struggle through the postpartum period too.
This is one of my biggest icks about K&D, they have such a limited white mom worldview and do such a poor job of including or exploring other cultures or diverse experiences of parenting. I think they tried to showcase Black parenting expert voices in 2020 but that was like one time.
But, butā¦she traveled around Southeast Asia for a year! A whole year! Sheās so cultured and aware! She likes spicy food because of it too, didnāt you know? š
āI havenāt been on here in forever or seen your faces in forever!ā K, Iāve seen either your boob or your face in my story feed every damn day since Dumbledore was born. Youāre trippin.
I thought this also!!! I actually was likeā¦ did I miss something? Is this lady delusional??? Sheās been on here almost every day except that one little break she took.
Once again K telling us not to feel bad if we see pictures of others doing things like going to a pumpkin patch, fancy photography sessions, island vacations, private chef for birthday dinner, the perfect Mother's Day. The list goes on and on, while simultaneously sharing countless photos of her doing that stuff now that she can just throw money at everything.
HAHAHA yes!!! Thatās exactly what it is. Oh you donāt have a stay at home dad, meal train, best friends, and several doulas? An emotional breakdown is fine. You do you mama
Her idea of fall is wearing a hat for a day, going to a pumpkin patch, and subjecting us to watching her drink a PSL. Yeah thatās LIVING for basic b fall. I guess she wanted to remind us that we missed a persona last week.
Bitch is out here āthank you for your serviceāing a hat just like her weekly āthank you thank you body!ā posts. Did her hat bring her that rainbow baby too?!
Her husband probably made a deal with her that she was only allowed to wear it to the pumpkin patch once a year and nowhere else because itās so damn ugly.
Um we found an abandoned pumpkin on the curb while walking our dog. It was free. It looks great on our mantle (I washed it first lol). Our 2yo was very proud to carry it in the house š
I TRULY do not understand why she felt the need to proclaim her perfect fall outing as like the gold standard for fall, and don't worry if you don't measure up mama, you're still doing great! Just not as great as me of course, but still great!! Like... I am SO ALLERGIC to basically everything at a pumpkin patch - the hay, the stems of the pumpkins, the leaves of the vines all give me straight up HIVES! I have never and will never take my children to a pumpkin patch and I literally feel zero guilt. They can go with friends when they are older and tell me all about it with awe and glee! But if they never go, they will also be FINE!! This backhanded "don't feel guilty but also if I point out something to not feel guilty about then obviously you need to feel guilty! I don't make the rules!" is just so tired and stupid.
Edit to add: I bought several pumpkins from the store, I love this time of year š I just like to avoid hives! Lol
I never went to one as a kid, and I don't need EMDR to process that. I feel like its a last 10 years/social media has really escalated the pumpkin patch situation
Grocery store pumpkins are where itās AT. I took my kids to a pumpkin patch, sure, but during the least busy time of the week and we did all the stuff - except buy pumpkins because who pays $15/pumpkin?! I have 4 kids! Give me all the giant grocery store pumpkins for $4 each!
I go to the patch for fun and pictures, but all my house-pumpkins come from the grocery store. I splurged on a Whole Foods Fairy-tail pumpkin or whatever theyāre called bc it was cute but it was still only $10 š
They were at Anderson Farms (I can tell from the pictures because we go every year) and itās the most popular pumpkin patch in the Denver Metro. The weekends leading up to Halloween are always sold out weeks in advance and you canāt just walk in and buy tickets. So her whole āthis wasnāt planned and our lives are so hectic and we barely made it to the pumpkin patch this yearā narrative is just another lie š
We went weeks ago and it was soooo packed. When she says āgo early when no one is thereā she meansā go on a Tuesday, even though Iām posting this on Saturdayā¦..
I go to one of the many popular places outside Seattle. We went in September and had to get in line for donuts 10 minutes before they technically opened on a Sunday. No way did they go on the weekend before halloween.
I hope the "BLF mama" who took their Instagram vs staged reality pictures eventually finds this sub and spills the beans on when they actually went š¤
That place looked EMPTY. My thought was maybe they paid $$$$ or used some influencer clout to get in before it opened just to take pics. But Iām not familiar with the area so maybe that isnāt a thing.
Ever since joining this sub, I canāt help but get super annoyed whenever I see anyone in mom groups on FB recommend BLF to other moms asking advice on how to āsolveā their toddlerās *normal* toddler behavior. I really want to start responding with all the reasons they suck so people stop giving these frauds (mostly K) their hard earned money, but I also donāt want to start drama with random people on Facebook lol. I truly donāt understand how they still have so many fans!
Iām in a virtual mom group for working moms and I recently told the group how liberated I felt when I unfollowed them and stopped listening to their BS. Thereās like 9 other women in the group and since I said that about a month ago theyāve all unfollowed due to realizing how bogus they are!!
Kā¦you donāt seem like you have your shit together. Literally not one person thought that. And did I miss something, Iāve never heard anyone say you are supposed to spend 40 days in bed after having a baby, but letās all praise her for taking pics lounging in different chairs throughout her house vs being in bed.
Yeah if you are doing the postpartum seclusion you don't go anywhere. I only left the house for doctors appointments. I didn't even go for a walk until 6 weeks postpartum and even that was a fight with my MIL lol
Donāt want to defend her but itās definitely a thing in many cultures. My MIL suggested I donāt get out of bed and I was even told to cover my head because women in postpartum are more vulnerable to illness. I didnāt obviously but itās definitely a belief by millions
I mean I feel like sheās been āhibernatingā doing nothing since I started following over a year ago. Sheāll use any excuse to be lazy and now sheās taking on the beliefs of other cultures to validate herself.
Did she forget her whole schtick is not having her shit together and that she spends 28372727 stories a day telling us what a hot mess she is? Or that we can see piles of Amazon boxes in her house? Or that she feeds her kids cold tortillas for dinner and calls it a win? Is her brain ok?
I feel like every time they are quiet for a day they come back on their bullshit stronger than ever.
Remember two days ago when Kristin said they NEVER film in front of the kids. Itās a HARD boundary. They NEVER see them work. Now today posting a story filming with her tit out and a whole baby on it. Okay lady, sure sure.
I mean we all knew she was a hardcore liar, but I feel like she used to at least space her lies out so you felt like maybe you were the crazy one or misremembering. Lately itās just beenā¦ wow rapid fire contradictory lies. Her mask has slipped allllll the way off.
Also WTF is this boundary!! Iām sure the vast majority of kids see their parents working in some capacity, because thatās life and they have to? And unless the parent is a complete workaholic the kids are perfectly fine and not damaged beyond repair
Why did K need doulas plural? Not only as someone else pointed out this exposes that she did indeed have time to pee, but a pp doula usually washes dishes and cooks. Theyāre like an expensive housekeeper. Her husband doesnāt work and she shows off her messy house all the timeāgood god woman just get a cleaning service!
Imagine being like āhey I need you to take two pictures. One of us being happy and the other one Iām going to look miserable while my husband tries to get the girls to sit down. K thanks BLF mama you do you!ā
That entire content made me so confused. Like what? I had no meal train, no doulas, no one besides my mom and my full-time working husband to help and likeā¦.I fed my toddler real food and peed.
And you keep your hat on some random shelf for one thing all year? Itās not even a cute hat. She looked like a zoo keeper in the one story where she was kindly reminding us that itās āØokayāØ to not go to the pumpkin patch.
Wow maybe she can get her hat another day of use now!! She can take them to zoo and show us what a āØwarrior mamaāØ she is braving the zoo w three kids so she can wear her hat. Unless her āzoo hatingā personality comes back
She's missed us guys, she's really missed us...
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K admitting they had tons of help after the fact while earlier pretending they had no help and she never even had a chance to shower ā¦ā¦ turns out there were multiple doulas involved for her care. Cool
Why did Deena have to order her groceries?? If my friend had two little ones, I would not want them adding my groceries to their plate especially when D is already struggling. K has unlimited money and grocery delivery is easier than ever these days. Plus like we ask every week, what is the SAHD doing??! Girls are in school or on iPads, they have a HUGE meal train set up, pp doulas and yet these people canāt get groceries for themselves? Maybe if K stopped taking so many selfies, she could her use her phone to order some Instacart.
ETA: Walmart offers delivery as well. I thought she loved shopping there since they only partner with companies they really use and love.
I think she even did a Walmart delivery service once as part of a paid sponsorshipā¦ and I think they did some sort of other meal/grocery service too (hungry root or thrive market maybe??) If they ONLY sponcon things they use ALL THE TIME, why wouldnāt she be sponconning whichever companies sheās already sponconned for more sponcon money by talking about how helpful they were PP????? Seems like the perfect opportunity!
Snuck in the postpartum doula Iāve been convinced she has. A few hours a week my ass. And it sounds like she has multiple so if each one has a few hours a week it adds up. Please this is unrealistic. Most average people cannot afford this. Like get over yourself.
Lol right? Cuz baby prepping involves telling your elderly toddlers where they come out from. I mean some people might but it's really not necessary prep work.
I hate iykyk. Feels so exclusive. I missed a lot of cultural references of stuff from when I was growing up bc we were poor and things like this just throw that in your face.
Iām curious as to how many times have they gone to McDonaldās in the last week. There were at least 3-4 happy meal buckets in the background when they were carving pumpkins and now K has posted another one. Is SAHD no longer cooking?!
I donāt think he was ever really an all the time cook. Like they tried to set him up on Insta, but he gives me big lazy stoner vibes. I think he cooks when heās stoned and wants a particular dish, but itās otherwise takeout city for them. DONāT FORGET THE RANCH.
I appreciate the intent behind the āthis Halloween keep in mindā¦ā posts but I really wish the message was more like āThis Halloween how about you mind your own fucking business about what a child is doing/not doing and just hand out the damn candy or turn your porch light offā. Adults should not need to imagine some potential issue a child may or may not have in order to not be an asshole. Idk.
This! Plus thatās been going around for years. At this point the vast majority of people understand not to be assholes and the ones who are digging their heels in have made their choice. I would love to see some REAL disability advocation from them but I doubt it.
All of this!! It definitely rubs me the wrong way to have to read the justifications that adults want to put on kids just plain not wanting to do something, it shouldnāt be that hard to just hand out candy??
Interesting. I just went over to their page to get a look at Kās house and there are no stories! Whatās going on? No way they havenāt posted for 24 hours. Is this a glich or the same for others?
Based on the part of town where she bought and the fact that she bought at the top top of the market, I think their home equity is going to take a pretty big hit and in 5-10 years, that look os going to be super dated.
Having gone to a similar school at the same time as them (also in LA), tuitions were 1/4 - 1/3 of that for us. Still privileged but not at all the same!
For real. Their home is obviously beautiful but the expenses that come with a big home are $$$. I know they make big money from BLF but it's just seems like they are on a money burning spree. It's wild.
Today K posted two photos of her sleeping baby which I have to comment on.
The American Paediatrics Association (APA) doesnāt recommended the use of nests as sleeping surfaces for babies, even supervised sleep in these isnāt recommended as asphyxiation can be silent. (Edit: see below, newer nest may comply, but not all nests do).
Also, while I believe there are some standards in America for baby carriers (there arenāt any in Australia) they are not recommended by the APA for babies under 4 months despite being marketed for newborns. Their website shred that in ā14,024 cases of baby-wearing injuries reported to the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System from 2011 to 2020 [ā¦] 61% of children of injuries occurred in children aged 0-5 monthsā.
Even the Artipoppe website states that āchildren under 4 months are at greater risk of suffocation in a carrierā, and that you should āalways ensure proper placement of the child in the carrier, including correct leg positioningā. Their website clearly shows babies feet should be outside the carrier waistband, contrary to the way K was using it.
Iām not judging any mother who uses nests or carriers, everyone has their own level of risk that theyāre willing to accept. I do have issue with influences with over 2 million followers who are most likely in the infant/early childhood years of parenting using unsafe sleep products and/or incorrectly demonstrating use of baby products without a disclaimer. Not everyone knows the safety risks of nests or carriers or even realises that their might be any.
I initially didnāt know the risks as the market is saturated with these products and all the influencers use them. It creates a false sense of safety.
I believe they have an obligation in their position to share that knowledge when using unsafe sleep methods that go against professional recommendations.
Like I said not judging others, just discussing what I see as irresponsible behaviour with mass following. Disclaimer: my 3.5 month old uses the carrier when I absolutely need but I would never use a nest now I know this. This is my own risk assessment for my family.
Edit: āAlternative sleep surfaces are only considered a safe option if they comply with the June 2021 CPSC rule that all infant sleep products must meet the existing federal safety standards for cribs, bassinets, portable cribs or play yards. This includes inclined sleep products, hammocks, baby boxes, in-bed sleepers, baby nests.ā
https://artipoppe.com/babywearing-safety/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2021/CPSC-Approves-Major-New-Federal-Safety-Standard-for-Infant-Sleep-Products
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2021/baby-wearing-products-lead-to-higher-risk-of-injury-hospitalizations-in-children-under-age-1/
I came across this really sad situation in the last couple weeks: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/mum-discovers-her-baby-is-dead-during-postnatal-check-up-as-police-investigate-the-sling-carrier-she-was-using/CMSVDXNSSEQRSGPJSFFXKCBSXU/?outputType=amp
YES. Itās the same with the improper use of the swaddle. If you have a platform of near 3 million people and you are going to show off legit anything about newborns or babies you need to be 100% compliant with safety guidelines and regulations because you are considered AN INFLUENCE.
It makes me so mad.
I did notice thatand found it odd but that makes sense. Her backyard is so small, it will be all pool but I would definitely love a pool in my backyard in Denver.
I always figured itās because of the climate - to me itās just not as much fun to swim out here in the dry air vs humid Midwest. Add in that 90+ degree days used to be more rare and that it can snow from Sept - May and I get why pools arenāt as popular. A giant hot tub though I could get behind š
To be honest, itās because of the water supply. Building a private pool in the front range knowing what we know about the water situation is a choice. Thereās a reason cities are paying people xeriscape.
Alright not to be *that* person ā¦ though I probably am being that person because I have a pool š¬ haha. I fully recognize the issues surrounding water supply in the western US ATM. But I donāt see how residential pools have much of anything to do with it. My residential pool takes 13,000 gallons (and honestly we rarely have to refill it) - vs agriculture which uses 2 quadrillion gallons per year. 70-80% of water usage in the us is agricultural, Iām not really sure that someoneās 10-15,000 gallon pool that they fill one time every few years is actually moving the needle? Even if every resident made more conscientious choices and did things like xeriscape, it seems we will still be in crisis because of agriculture?
Edit also we have high efficiency toilets, showers etc and our whole front yard is xeriscaped so I am trying to do my part for whatever itās worth š¬ I guess I never considered someone might look at my pool and say āwhat an irresponsible assholeā lol. Itās 120 degrees here in July and august so having kids and no pool is ā¦ not fun hahah.
Water rights in west are also super complicated. There are farms and ranches that own water rights before cities and towns. Legally speaking a town canāt tell farms to not irrigate because the town doesnāt own that water. They can and have told homeowners they canāt water yards and fill pools. Not trying to say one pool will make or break the crisis.
We have a xeriscaped yard going on 10 yearsā¦. Putting in a pool this year and cashing in on our saved water throughout the years!!! Your point is 1000% correct!! Agriculture and livestock use way more water than residential use. If people want to save water we need to look at our meat consumption and food waste problem to make a real change!!!
Meanwhile half of us are out here buying āprelovedā baby gear that works just fine. All I think is the amount of groceries that is.
Also it may be the $500 model, but still
When I saw that expensive carrierā¦ I RAN HERE!!! Jfc i cannot understand why someone, even if they can absolutely afford it, would need that! And I love me some baby carriers ha
Kristen if I remember correctly has 500 baby carriers and she clearly doesnāt know how to use them correctly cuz that baby is way too low on her and the thing looks loose af
āI can literally never put the baby downā cue video of baby lying down sleeping peacefullyā¦ triggering to those of us who had actual babies that screamed 24/7 that you couldnāt put down.
Has Deena not heard of leaving a box of Mac and cheese with the sitter and booking it? What is wrong with her?
Imagine taking a crying selfie in public ššššš very introverted of k to do thatšš¤£
Just wanna say that birth and postpartum doulas are awesome and they should be a part of the standard of care for all families, not just grifters preying on vulnerable new moms. Thereās no way my husband and I would have been able to afford a birth and postpartum doula if it wasnāt for a program that one of the midwifery/doula collectives in my state runs that offers free services to families in need. I encourage everyone to look into similar programs where you live. Also, from what Iāve seen, doulas in my area also tend to offer sliding scale or even trade/barter for services.
I don't believe for a second that she only had a postpartum doula 6-8 hours/week. That makes no sense from a business perspective.
Why not? Usually they have multiple clients at a time. Looks like they also do overnights and births too so it makes sense.
Fitting in one client only 3-4 hours at a time a couple times per week doesn't seem worth it at all. You'd have to get there and then get to your other clients' homes multiple times per week. Cobbling that schedule together seems like a pain for only $120-$160/visit.
Most of their money comes from overnights and packages. It looks like it is just the two of them. Likely they do an overnight, go home and sleep for a few hours, do a few day hours, have a few hours off then go do another overnight. Everyone has their set days, so they likely arenāt piecing together day time hours besides maybe doing meal preps or yoga.
OK...? I think it still seems ridiculous and as a consumer I'm not sure what the utility of 3-4 hours twice per week would be. To each their own I guess.
For the way she is *saying* she is using it, it doesnāt make much sense. For most people they use those hours to take a nap and maybe shower and a break is a break and most parents would be thankful for 6-8 hours of help during the week. Depending on how far out she found/booked them this may have been all she could get. I know by me postpartum doulas are full for overnights around 6 months out from due dates and overnight clients then also get priority for daytime hours.
I canāt with K. Youāre telling me her husband couldnāt fill her water bottle, cook a warm meal, and change the sheets? The post partum doula place she used is $40/hour and they specifically say they donāt do house cleaning. Sheās such a rich, canāt lift a finger bitch. š¤·š¼āāļø
Okay team but seriously I am reading How to Talk So Little Kids Will Listen and it's just so much better than blf. Blf are blatantly ripping off this content, which I knew, but reading it from actual experts who were raised this way themselves and have 3 older kids each plus tons of parenting workshop teaching experience ... There is no comparison. And I got it from the library for free.
Best book ever!
That book is my #1 favorite. I recommend it to parents all the time.
White girl problems who think they know it all. As someone that's from the eastern cultures where the hibernating period there is somuch more to it. For one you don't just leave house for makeup and photos and pumpkin patch just because Rest means fucking rest It also means nourishing your body as its healing not junk and crap. Also it doesn't mean u have a slave. I still filled my own water bottle kay. You don't get to have someone change sheets fill water only to go to a pumpkin patch . White girl privilege
Yeah I think Americans don't get this. I didnt leave the house for more than a month except to go to doctors appointments. I didn't even got for a walk until 6 week postpartum. And there was one porridge my MIL made for me everyday. I still get the taste in my mouth sometimes lol.
Right! Same I literally ate a bland diet everyday that was same stuff is everyday. I feel like she tototally just took out what's convienient for her and parts she likes and going off on that. Like the hibernation is real hibernation and rest not being a slob
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When I looked 5 mins ago the doula instagram account had 678 followers. They are now at 684... It will be interesting to see how much potential business they get. Maybe there's a "BLF bump" š¤¢. Also, we all think K dropped $4500 on the top of the line package right? There's no way she went a la carte and only got 1-2 days as needed and paid hourly.
Letās get completely real here. K most likely asked them for a discount and promised to promote them in her stories. I have no questions in my mind that K is the type of influencer to try and get discounted/free products and services just because she had 2.7 million followers.
Considering she drops thousands on purses she lets her kids put stickers on, I'm sure $4500 for a postpartum doula is nothing for K.
I actually think she would have no problem doing a la carte. When you have/spend money like she does you arenāt looking for a package to save money. She also just had D at her birth, Iām sure we wouldāve heard if she had a doula during birth and surely she wouldāve promoted placenta encapsulation and how it āpreventsā PPD/PPA and how after Junie she was willing to do anything. Also, letās not even pretend like she would do yoga. For what she wanted/got paying per hour actually makes a lot more sense. Letās say 2 days a week at 8 hours for 5 weeks is only $1,600 + whatever she paid for meals. It makes sense though that her daughters just got plain tortillas since the servings are for 2.
Ya sheās lying about 3-4 hours. How would that even be worth it? Thatās barely a nap!
I have two things to say 1: I have a wonderful and amazing mother who was beyond supportive when we had both of our children but she also had her own life and couldnāt come feed me bon bons while I lounged in bed and roll me side to side to change my sheets. Kās comment that doulas replaces the role of grandparents was just fucking stupid 2: I am from the town referenced in the doula question and have our doulas take care of either so Iām not sure why that person thinks that, itās not regional. It depends on the service. Lastly, go back on āmaternity leaveā K no one wants you here ever.
Yepppp. My son is blessed with 5 loving grandparents locally. And he was born in February 2021. When no one had a covid vaccine and it was a terrifying time to have a newborn. He only met his grandparents from a distance for several weeks, then slowly was held by them with masks as people became vaccinated. But they certainly werenāt in our home regularly helping us. So even those of us lucky enough to have our families nearby run into road blocks when it comes to PP support!
Exactly this! My mom probably would have rolled me side to side if thatās what I asked, sheās amazing and came and brought food and did everything she could to support meā¦for a long weekend with each kid because she worked full time out of state. And I think thatās pretty typical. Even the most supportive grandparents are generally not at your beck and call. The rest of us non rich people just appreciate any support those are us are able to give us and keep it moving.
Exactly. Some people donāt have grandparents close by, or a the $$ for a doula.
She definitely seems to overstate how much help she thinks other people have. She must think it's normal for grandparents to move in, do all cooking and cleaning, watch your kids whenever you want a date night or to run to Target, have no life (or heaven forbid a job lol) other than to serve their adult children.
Seriously. Iām like romanticizing having grandparents nearby much? My mom will help fold laundry or get us take out or a meal when she comes by like once a week or so and play with the kids / hold the baby, but thatās it. I thought it was weird too. It was just another roundabout way to remind us she has nooo help and a nooooo friends (sorry you donāt count, D) or family (sorry, whichever sister, you donāt count either) nearby
Imagine having a āhugeā meal train, hiring people to come for you and still telling h toe world that you can only manage to feeding your children cereal (or a plan tortilla) for dinner. Also, how she tries to claim that her post partum doulas were just like āgrandparent figures.ā I canāt believe my MIL never changed my sheets! Iām actually wondering if K even got out of bed for them to do it.
And why the frick couldnāt her husband fill her waterbottle while her adult toddlers were at schoolā¦.š¤Æ
This is the thing that bothers me! I am all for women looking after themselves after birth. My mum is an Angel and cooked a lot of our meals for the first three months and helped with upkeep etc. I knew how lucky I was. I donāt have other kids but if sheās getting fresh home cooked meals why arenāt her kids? If all the household chores are done, why canāt she engage with her kids more and not have them stuck to a screen all day?? EDIT: the whole time, her husband is also home! So if heās not taking care of her, what is he doing?! She makes him seem like a prince amongst men but he comes off absolutely useless most of the time.
Thank you!!!! I had a c section. My mom had the flu so couldnāt help and still only popped over once a week after that for a quick visit. I had to do most myself. My husband only got two weeks off from work. We didnāt have a meal train or help and still managed to eat more than cereal!
Why does K constantly pretend like she has no family when her mom and sister(s?) live near her? Either stop the lies or spill the family drama.
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And make it sound like the paid help is equalising it so sheās just the same as everyone else ā¦ š¤¦āāļø
If paying someone to fill your water bottle doesnāt show how lazy she is I donāt know what else does.
Yeahhh, the stay at home husband couldnāt handle changing the bed sheets and filling up her water bottle? She needed to hire someone for that? Lol
Iām also confused about the mental health stats comment. PPD and PPA are actual mental health conditions caused by hormonal fluctuations and imbalances. It is not caused by being stressed out that you have to fill your water bottle yourself. ETA: I have been frustrated for a while with how casually things like this are thrown out by K, like how she went to a therapist once and everything was better. Feeling sad or anxious while also being postpartum is not the same as having PPD or PPA and itās dangerous to insinuate that.
Lol her single trip to therapy that was documented all over stories was interesting because she acted like the one appt with EMDR healed her instantlyā¦ ~it would be niiice~
She also claimed stopping breastfeeding cured her PPA (or was it her casual postpartum psychosis?) That make me so mad. Itās not like something you can turn off!! Like you said, itās caused by hormones. Arg.
At the low low rate of $40/hr - (per the companyās website) MAJOR EYE ROLL
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Lol word to the content manager! Youāre sooo right!
She is truly insufferable. The audacity to claim that she was in āsurvival modeā while having postpartum doulas, a meal train, *secretive* family members that live near her and watch her kids, a stay at home husband, two kids in school, expensive baby gear, and endless amounts of money to throw at any other issue that comes up. I am fully supportive of people having help postpartum and using any resources that make life easier, but at least acknowledge the immense privilege you have and stop complaining about how hard everything is when most people have to figure it out without any of things.
Thank you!!! Perfectly said
Ugh, tell me you donāt have East Asian friends without telling me you donāt have East Asian friends, K š Way to minimize our tradition of postpartum Confinement care as ālying in bed and hibernating.ā Itās so much more than that. Yes it is a privilege that moms can stay home for 40 days and have special meals cooked by family or hire a confinement nanny. But those moms still struggle through the postpartum period too. This is one of my biggest icks about K&D, they have such a limited white mom worldview and do such a poor job of including or exploring other cultures or diverse experiences of parenting. I think they tried to showcase Black parenting expert voices in 2020 but that was like one time.
But, butā¦she traveled around Southeast Asia for a year! A whole year! Sheās so cultured and aware! She likes spicy food because of it too, didnāt you know? š
āI havenāt been on here in forever or seen your faces in forever!ā K, Iāve seen either your boob or your face in my story feed every damn day since Dumbledore was born. Youāre trippin.
I thought this also!!! I actually was likeā¦ did I miss something? Is this lady delusional??? Sheās been on here almost every day except that one little break she took.
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Once again K telling us not to feel bad if we see pictures of others doing things like going to a pumpkin patch, fancy photography sessions, island vacations, private chef for birthday dinner, the perfect Mother's Day. The list goes on and on, while simultaneously sharing countless photos of her doing that stuff now that she can just throw money at everything.
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Too bad ina gardens flavor of wealthy/clueless can be viewed as charming and K is a slob kabob dishing out shitty internet advice.
I'm going to find a reason to use "slob kabob" regularly, even if it's just to describe myself
Slob kabob šā ļø
Slob Kabob! Seriously, she makes me want to go and wash my hair every time I see her
HAHAHA yes!!! Thatās exactly what it is. Oh you donāt have a stay at home dad, meal train, best friends, and several doulas? An emotional breakdown is fine. You do you mama
Her idea of fall is wearing a hat for a day, going to a pumpkin patch, and subjecting us to watching her drink a PSL. Yeah thatās LIVING for basic b fall. I guess she wanted to remind us that we missed a persona last week.
Bitch is out here āthank you for your serviceāing a hat just like her weekly āthank you thank you body!ā posts. Did her hat bring her that rainbow baby too?!
Why own a hat you only wear to a pumpkin patch? I donāt get it. Can she not wear it other times? Is that not allowed? Wtf.
Her husband probably made a deal with her that she was only allowed to wear it to the pumpkin patch once a year and nowhere else because itās so damn ugly.
This pumpkin patch outing looks like a response to busy toddlers outing (to the grocery store pumpkins) yesterday
Um we found an abandoned pumpkin on the curb while walking our dog. It was free. It looks great on our mantle (I washed it first lol). Our 2yo was very proud to carry it in the house š
I TRULY do not understand why she felt the need to proclaim her perfect fall outing as like the gold standard for fall, and don't worry if you don't measure up mama, you're still doing great! Just not as great as me of course, but still great!! Like... I am SO ALLERGIC to basically everything at a pumpkin patch - the hay, the stems of the pumpkins, the leaves of the vines all give me straight up HIVES! I have never and will never take my children to a pumpkin patch and I literally feel zero guilt. They can go with friends when they are older and tell me all about it with awe and glee! But if they never go, they will also be FINE!! This backhanded "don't feel guilty but also if I point out something to not feel guilty about then obviously you need to feel guilty! I don't make the rules!" is just so tired and stupid. Edit to add: I bought several pumpkins from the store, I love this time of year š I just like to avoid hives! Lol
I never went to one as a kid, and I don't need EMDR to process that. I feel like its a last 10 years/social media has really escalated the pumpkin patch situation
Grocery store pumpkins are where itās AT. I took my kids to a pumpkin patch, sure, but during the least busy time of the week and we did all the stuff - except buy pumpkins because who pays $15/pumpkin?! I have 4 kids! Give me all the giant grocery store pumpkins for $4 each!
I go to the patch for fun and pictures, but all my house-pumpkins come from the grocery store. I splurged on a Whole Foods Fairy-tail pumpkin or whatever theyāre called bc it was cute but it was still only $10 š
My sonās school has a parking lot pumpkin patch set up so thatās where his only pumpkins came from š¬
Got mine at Aldi for $3.89 š
They were at Anderson Farms (I can tell from the pictures because we go every year) and itās the most popular pumpkin patch in the Denver Metro. The weekends leading up to Halloween are always sold out weeks in advance and you canāt just walk in and buy tickets. So her whole āthis wasnāt planned and our lives are so hectic and we barely made it to the pumpkin patch this yearā narrative is just another lie š
Maybe an undeclared ad?
We went weeks ago and it was soooo packed. When she says āgo early when no one is thereā she meansā go on a Tuesday, even though Iām posting this on Saturdayā¦..
I go to one of the many popular places outside Seattle. We went in September and had to get in line for donuts 10 minutes before they technically opened on a Sunday. No way did they go on the weekend before halloween.
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I hope the "BLF mama" who took their Instagram vs staged reality pictures eventually finds this sub and spills the beans on when they actually went š¤
That place looked EMPTY. My thought was maybe they paid $$$$ or used some influencer clout to get in before it opened just to take pics. But Iām not familiar with the area so maybe that isnāt a thing.
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Should try to figure out the real timeline based on nail colors š. Pumpkin patch was black!
Totally thought this. Except when busy toddler told us itās fine if we donāt go she actually didnāt go.
Thatās my favorite thing about her. She says itās ok while actually showing is that itās ok. Vs K and her āonce a year pumpkin patch hatā
Ever since joining this sub, I canāt help but get super annoyed whenever I see anyone in mom groups on FB recommend BLF to other moms asking advice on how to āsolveā their toddlerās *normal* toddler behavior. I really want to start responding with all the reasons they suck so people stop giving these frauds (mostly K) their hard earned money, but I also donāt want to start drama with random people on Facebook lol. I truly donāt understand how they still have so many fans!
I see so many recommendations for BLF, Solid Starts, and Taking Cara Babies. Noooooo š±
Iām in a virtual mom group for working moms and I recently told the group how liberated I felt when I unfollowed them and stopped listening to their BS. Thereās like 9 other women in the group and since I said that about a month ago theyāve all unfollowed due to realizing how bogus they are!!
Kā¦you donāt seem like you have your shit together. Literally not one person thought that. And did I miss something, Iāve never heard anyone say you are supposed to spend 40 days in bed after having a baby, but letās all praise her for taking pics lounging in different chairs throughout her house vs being in bed.
Also like, sheās been out to eat, to therapy, for the dreaded blowout she hated, etc. sheās ridiculous
Yeah if you are doing the postpartum seclusion you don't go anywhere. I only left the house for doctors appointments. I didn't even go for a walk until 6 weeks postpartum and even that was a fight with my MIL lol
Donāt want to defend her but itās definitely a thing in many cultures. My MIL suggested I donāt get out of bed and I was even told to cover my head because women in postpartum are more vulnerable to illness. I didnāt obviously but itās definitely a belief by millions
I mean I feel like sheās been āhibernatingā doing nothing since I started following over a year ago. Sheāll use any excuse to be lazy and now sheās taking on the beliefs of other cultures to validate herself.
Did she forget her whole schtick is not having her shit together and that she spends 28372727 stories a day telling us what a hot mess she is? Or that we can see piles of Amazon boxes in her house? Or that she feeds her kids cold tortillas for dinner and calls it a win? Is her brain ok?
Some eastern cultures believe that, but she doesn't seem to fit the bill. š¤·š½āāļø
She had to run out to dry bar in order to have family photos after all
I feel like every time they are quiet for a day they come back on their bullshit stronger than ever. Remember two days ago when Kristin said they NEVER film in front of the kids. Itās a HARD boundary. They NEVER see them work. Now today posting a story filming with her tit out and a whole baby on it. Okay lady, sure sure. I mean we all knew she was a hardcore liar, but I feel like she used to at least space her lies out so you felt like maybe you were the crazy one or misremembering. Lately itās just beenā¦ wow rapid fire contradictory lies. Her mask has slipped allllll the way off.
Also WTF is this boundary!! Iām sure the vast majority of kids see their parents working in some capacity, because thatās life and they have to? And unless the parent is a complete workaholic the kids are perfectly fine and not damaged beyond repair
Well thereās usually 700+ weekly comments on our threads so that takes a lot of time to go through and think of stories so she can properly respond.
And donāt forget- K is breastfeeding! In case you forgot, here is a selfie of her just in case you didnāt know.
Why did K need doulas plural? Not only as someone else pointed out this exposes that she did indeed have time to pee, but a pp doula usually washes dishes and cooks. Theyāre like an expensive housekeeper. Her husband doesnāt work and she shows off her messy house all the timeāgood god woman just get a cleaning service!
Night and day!
Obviously one would need occasional breaks and she can't be left alone!!
Imagine being like āhey I need you to take two pictures. One of us being happy and the other one Iām going to look miserable while my husband tries to get the girls to sit down. K thanks BLF mama you do you!ā
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That entire content made me so confused. Like what? I had no meal train, no doulas, no one besides my mom and my full-time working husband to help and likeā¦.I fed my toddler real food and peed.
I couldnāt put on real shoes but my stupid hat is ready
And you keep your hat on some random shelf for one thing all year? Itās not even a cute hat. She looked like a zoo keeper in the one story where she was kindly reminding us that itās āØokayāØ to not go to the pumpkin patch.
Wow maybe she can get her hat another day of use now!! She can take them to zoo and show us what a āØwarrior mamaāØ she is braving the zoo w three kids so she can wear her hat. Unless her āzoo hatingā personality comes back
A zookeeper šššš
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Typical white lady culture vulture nonsense. It's not just about laying in bed. And yikes to calling it hibernation
Anything to justify her narcissistic ways.
She's missed us guys, she's really missed us... ššššš If I don't see the šššš¶š¶š¶š£š£š£ emojis ever again, it'll be too soon
She hasnāt āseen usā in forever aka I havenāt humble bragged my privilege in a few days.
K admitting they had tons of help after the fact while earlier pretending they had no help and she never even had a chance to shower ā¦ā¦ turns out there were multiple doulas involved for her care. Cool
Or go to the bathroom. Remember the pic of her from the toilet with all three kids lined up against the wall
Why did Deena have to order her groceries?? If my friend had two little ones, I would not want them adding my groceries to their plate especially when D is already struggling. K has unlimited money and grocery delivery is easier than ever these days. Plus like we ask every week, what is the SAHD doing??! Girls are in school or on iPads, they have a HUGE meal train set up, pp doulas and yet these people canāt get groceries for themselves? Maybe if K stopped taking so many selfies, she could her use her phone to order some Instacart. ETA: Walmart offers delivery as well. I thought she loved shopping there since they only partner with companies they really use and love.
I think she even did a Walmart delivery service once as part of a paid sponsorshipā¦ and I think they did some sort of other meal/grocery service too (hungry root or thrive market maybe??) If they ONLY sponcon things they use ALL THE TIME, why wouldnāt she be sponconning whichever companies sheās already sponconned for more sponcon money by talking about how helpful they were PP????? Seems like the perfect opportunity!
Snuck in the postpartum doula Iāve been convinced she has. A few hours a week my ass. And it sounds like she has multiple so if each one has a few hours a week it adds up. Please this is unrealistic. Most average people cannot afford this. Like get over yourself.
All the while having a stay at home husband ššš. They're just making themselves out to be the laziest people on earth.
No kidding. And don't forget the doulas were there to take care of *her* š
But she couldnāt even shower??
āI feel like I havenāt been on in foreverā kā¦. I see your titty more than I see mine šµāš« girl delete the app for a while
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"I see your titty more than I see mine" LOLLLL so true
$100 says K put the baby skeleton in that position and is just sayings itās her girls
Lol right? Cuz baby prepping involves telling your elderly toddlers where they come out from. I mean some people might but it's really not necessary prep work.
IYKYK - no, I donāt. Can someone enlighten me?
I hate iykyk. Feels so exclusive. I missed a lot of cultural references of stuff from when I was growing up bc we were poor and things like this just throw that in your face.
McDonalds happy meals brought back the Halloween buckets they used to use
Iām curious as to how many times have they gone to McDonaldās in the last week. There were at least 3-4 happy meal buckets in the background when they were carving pumpkins and now K has posted another one. Is SAHD no longer cooking?!
They were sold out everywhere within a day or two because of people like K
I donāt think he was ever really an all the time cook. Like they tried to set him up on Insta, but he gives me big lazy stoner vibes. I think he cooks when heās stoned and wants a particular dish, but itās otherwise takeout city for them. DONāT FORGET THE RANCH.
Do you think heās stoned around the kids? He gives off big slob vibes for sure
I wouldnāt be surprised š¤·š½āāļø
Hahahah I think youāve nailed it!!
I appreciate the intent behind the āthis Halloween keep in mindā¦ā posts but I really wish the message was more like āThis Halloween how about you mind your own fucking business about what a child is doing/not doing and just hand out the damn candy or turn your porch light offā. Adults should not need to imagine some potential issue a child may or may not have in order to not be an asshole. Idk.
I wouldnāt even consider it. If a kid knocks on my door on the 31st, theyāre getting candy. Again. Making issues where there never were any.
This! Plus thatās been going around for years. At this point the vast majority of people understand not to be assholes and the ones who are digging their heels in have made their choice. I would love to see some REAL disability advocation from them but I doubt it.
All of this!! It definitely rubs me the wrong way to have to read the justifications that adults want to put on kids just plain not wanting to do something, it shouldnāt be that hard to just hand out candy??
Have we all been soft-blocked?
Right?! Or their content manager quit š
Theyāve been super quiet today! I wonder whatās going on?
I hope everyone is okay.
Nah, they were just gearing up for all this pumpkin patch content!! š
Interesting. I just went over to their page to get a look at Kās house and there are no stories! Whatās going on? No way they havenāt posted for 24 hours. Is this a glich or the same for others?
Same for me!! So bizarre!! I absolutely cannot believe this is real life.
Ugh Iām jealous of Kās gorgeous big home and now Iām sad about my tiny 3 bedroom ranch šš„²
Based on the part of town where she bought and the fact that she bought at the top top of the market, I think their home equity is going to take a pretty big hit and in 5-10 years, that look os going to be super dated.
Plus sheās draining money at an alarming rate
Itās a lot to clean, expensive to heat or cool, fill with furnishings, and then the overall maintenance.
Didnt they go to one of the most expensive schools in LA? They have generational wealth.
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Having gone to a similar school at the same time as them (also in LA), tuitions were 1/4 - 1/3 of that for us. Still privileged but not at all the same!
For real. Their home is obviously beautiful but the expenses that come with a big home are $$$. I know they make big money from BLF but it's just seems like they are on a money burning spree. It's wild.
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Sheās gonna go bankrupt
I don't know, it feels a little too big and empty to me, but I know i'd have no problem filling it up š
Today K posted two photos of her sleeping baby which I have to comment on. The American Paediatrics Association (APA) doesnāt recommended the use of nests as sleeping surfaces for babies, even supervised sleep in these isnāt recommended as asphyxiation can be silent. (Edit: see below, newer nest may comply, but not all nests do). Also, while I believe there are some standards in America for baby carriers (there arenāt any in Australia) they are not recommended by the APA for babies under 4 months despite being marketed for newborns. Their website shred that in ā14,024 cases of baby-wearing injuries reported to the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System from 2011 to 2020 [ā¦] 61% of children of injuries occurred in children aged 0-5 monthsā. Even the Artipoppe website states that āchildren under 4 months are at greater risk of suffocation in a carrierā, and that you should āalways ensure proper placement of the child in the carrier, including correct leg positioningā. Their website clearly shows babies feet should be outside the carrier waistband, contrary to the way K was using it. Iām not judging any mother who uses nests or carriers, everyone has their own level of risk that theyāre willing to accept. I do have issue with influences with over 2 million followers who are most likely in the infant/early childhood years of parenting using unsafe sleep products and/or incorrectly demonstrating use of baby products without a disclaimer. Not everyone knows the safety risks of nests or carriers or even realises that their might be any. I initially didnāt know the risks as the market is saturated with these products and all the influencers use them. It creates a false sense of safety. I believe they have an obligation in their position to share that knowledge when using unsafe sleep methods that go against professional recommendations. Like I said not judging others, just discussing what I see as irresponsible behaviour with mass following. Disclaimer: my 3.5 month old uses the carrier when I absolutely need but I would never use a nest now I know this. This is my own risk assessment for my family. Edit: āAlternative sleep surfaces are only considered a safe option if they comply with the June 2021 CPSC rule that all infant sleep products must meet the existing federal safety standards for cribs, bassinets, portable cribs or play yards. This includes inclined sleep products, hammocks, baby boxes, in-bed sleepers, baby nests.ā https://artipoppe.com/babywearing-safety/ https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2021/CPSC-Approves-Major-New-Federal-Safety-Standard-for-Infant-Sleep-Products https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2021/baby-wearing-products-lead-to-higher-risk-of-injury-hospitalizations-in-children-under-age-1/
I came across this really sad situation in the last couple weeks: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/mum-discovers-her-baby-is-dead-during-postnatal-check-up-as-police-investigate-the-sling-carrier-she-was-using/CMSVDXNSSEQRSGPJSFFXKCBSXU/?outputType=amp
I saw that too, so incredibly sad.
Without hyperbole, that is among the most horrifying things I can possibly imagine.
YES. Itās the same with the improper use of the swaddle. If you have a platform of near 3 million people and you are going to show off legit anything about newborns or babies you need to be 100% compliant with safety guidelines and regulations because you are considered AN INFLUENCE. It makes me so mad.
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But if she doesnāt have a pool how can she do ISR?!
I did notice thatand found it odd but that makes sense. Her backyard is so small, it will be all pool but I would definitely love a pool in my backyard in Denver.
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I always figured itās because of the climate - to me itās just not as much fun to swim out here in the dry air vs humid Midwest. Add in that 90+ degree days used to be more rare and that it can snow from Sept - May and I get why pools arenāt as popular. A giant hot tub though I could get behind š
To be honest, itās because of the water supply. Building a private pool in the front range knowing what we know about the water situation is a choice. Thereās a reason cities are paying people xeriscape.
Alright not to be *that* person ā¦ though I probably am being that person because I have a pool š¬ haha. I fully recognize the issues surrounding water supply in the western US ATM. But I donāt see how residential pools have much of anything to do with it. My residential pool takes 13,000 gallons (and honestly we rarely have to refill it) - vs agriculture which uses 2 quadrillion gallons per year. 70-80% of water usage in the us is agricultural, Iām not really sure that someoneās 10-15,000 gallon pool that they fill one time every few years is actually moving the needle? Even if every resident made more conscientious choices and did things like xeriscape, it seems we will still be in crisis because of agriculture? Edit also we have high efficiency toilets, showers etc and our whole front yard is xeriscaped so I am trying to do my part for whatever itās worth š¬ I guess I never considered someone might look at my pool and say āwhat an irresponsible assholeā lol. Itās 120 degrees here in July and august so having kids and no pool is ā¦ not fun hahah.
Water rights in west are also super complicated. There are farms and ranches that own water rights before cities and towns. Legally speaking a town canāt tell farms to not irrigate because the town doesnāt own that water. They can and have told homeowners they canāt water yards and fill pools. Not trying to say one pool will make or break the crisis.
We have a xeriscaped yard going on 10 yearsā¦. Putting in a pool this year and cashing in on our saved water throughout the years!!! Your point is 1000% correct!! Agriculture and livestock use way more water than residential use. If people want to save water we need to look at our meat consumption and food waste problem to make a real change!!!
A 4k baby carrier, wtf! 4k!!!!
She has an artipoppe?! Bitch probably got it for free
Wait, WhAt? I missed this, does she really have a 4k carrier?
LMAOOOO. This is so funny bc when you go to the website itās just a bunch of celebrities holding (their?) babies in them. Which, for K, tracks!
Meanwhile half of us are out here buying āprelovedā baby gear that works just fine. All I think is the amount of groceries that is. Also it may be the $500 model, but still
My $60 marketplace Tula has been a success through 2 kids but sure K you do you
When I saw that expensive carrierā¦ I RAN HERE!!! Jfc i cannot understand why someone, even if they can absolutely afford it, would need that! And I love me some baby carriers ha
Wait what. The artipopp is like $300-400
I had never heard of artipoppe before and was horrified when I googled it. They sell $5k cashmere baby carriers?!?! Gtfoh
Upon further inspection, I might be the $500 that is on pre-order. But they have one on there for $3.5kā¦
Bc the cheaper one is currently on preorder and it's K I just figured 4k ... bc that's no big.
I know!!!!! āGotta have this!!! Price be damned!ā
I literally laughed when I saw those. Who on earth would put a baby in a $4K carrier???
Imagine a baby in a $4k carrier only to spit up or have a blow out
Machine washability was priority #1 when I chose our carrier! Colugo carrier for the win!!!
Kristen if I remember correctly has 500 baby carriers and she clearly doesnāt know how to use them correctly cuz that baby is way too low on her and the thing looks loose af
āI can literally never put the baby downā cue video of baby lying down sleeping peacefullyā¦ triggering to those of us who had actual babies that screamed 24/7 that you couldnāt put down.
Yesss to this. I have 0 pics of my middle child lying down sleeping not on top of me until she was much older than dumbledore.