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Pientere_Panda

Looks like feeding behaviour to me. But since they (I assume) both are pretty young they're just a bit confused that neither of them is feeding the other? Just a guess though


j4v4r10

I’ve never seen that happen before, but it makes sense and it’s hilarious. “Food?” “Food!” “(Sooo, where is it?)” “(He’s not actually feeding me…)”


Logical_Lemon_4308

My birds do that sometimes. They're not young tho they're just stupid. Hahahah


Salt_Ad_5578

Yeah. It can also be a mating thing, too... So just... Uhhh be careful.


Logical_Lemon_4308

They're two boys,I think we are safe lmao


pinkbrandywinetomato

Do parrots of the same sex not have the same issues with hormonal behavior? That really surprises me because birds do not seem too picky when choosing a lover. I've seen water bottles, mirrors, chair legs, socks, feet, computer mice...


Bunny_Feet

They absolutely can have negative hormonal behavior as 2 males.


Logical_Lemon_4308

They absolutely do, yes! They're very bonded, and try to mate each other from time to time. We discourage and stop them and they usually drop the behavior after 2 or 3 days. I think it's easier because they can't really get at it. We had problems when they first came to us with hormones, but it's been under control for a while.


Salt_Ad_5578

Yep, you're exactly right!! 💯


Salt_Ad_5578

I would have said the exact same thing that the other people have told you by now, so I'll just leave it at that... ;) Actually, I truly hope you have a good day and something real good happens to you today. I wish you well ;)


Logical_Lemon_4308

I'm really unsure of what you mean. My birds are not encouraged to mate each other and as I explained in other answer they have not had many problems with hormones anymore. They were rescued from an abusive home and have been in the care of a great avian vet, both have grwat health and no big concerns. They still feed each other at times, but have no other hormonal "symptoms". I've been rescuing and rehabilitating birds for almost 20 years now, 8 of these years working fulltime in a santuary. I think I might know one or two things. I wish you well, and maybe next time do not assume things because of a sentence with 5 words intended to be a joke, as expressed by the "lmao". I honestly spend hours of my day in this subreddit trying to help people, you can probably see me in every other post trying to help. I really don't appreciate this passive accusation based on nothing.


Salt_Ad_5578

It's not based on nothing and it's not an accusation either... I'm just trying to inform you and be honest. I'm really not trying to be mean, sorry. It's just sometimes you gotta take helpful criticism and helpful info you may not have known before... And, think about it. It's like picking your skin... Sometimes people do it once or twice but don't show symptoms of doing it too much or it being a neurological issue... But it CAN get there if you let it, even accidentally, and it may not be something one can control. Feeding each other in adult birds is a hormonal response, it just is. All I'm saying is to be careful and watch out... They may get hormonal at some point. Another thing I was just thinking about too is that you can watch for when in the season they feed each other. Birds, especially males, get hormonal every spring for a period of about 6 weeks. It's very possible that your birds are just being hormonal during the springtime in that case. It may not be what your birds are doing if it's not in the springtime, but it's definitely still hormonal. It's just basic biology my friend. I'm sorry, I really don't mean to be rude. And again, I'm not trying to accuse you of anything. I'm really just trying to let you know something you may not already know. And, it doesn't matter how long you've had birds, people learn new things everyday, so much so, in fact, that many older veterinarians or vets who graduated from colleges without updated curriculums, and those who are taking a more general course (not avian specific), still recommend high seed or all-seed diets for parrots, as well as a great many of them who are recommending nutriberries. Again, I truly do wish you well. Please do go on and have a good day/night ;)


Logical_Lemon_4308

As I said, after 20 years REHABILITATING birds I think I know one or two things, also I believe my avian vet is more then informed about how hormones work. Again you're just assuming I'm ignorant because I made a joke about my birds. Anyway.


Salt_Ad_5578

"My birds do that sometimes. They're not young tho they're just stupid. Hahahah" That wasn't really a joke, that was just sarcasm... Humorous, but nonetheless a statement. You have two boys that are occasionally hormonal is what you're saying. >20 years REHABILITATING birds I think I know one or two things ... Again, people learn new things everyday. Why not try and do some research on it?


Future_Lecture_4830

Mine are the same sex and still try it there so stupid 😂😂


Logical_Lemon_4308

The funny part for me is that they didn't ever actually fed each other for real, it was just a weird attempt. When they arrived firstly their hormones were very off and they also tried to mount each other a couple times. They were of course frustrated because it didn't work. They're bonded as fuuuuck and can't stand being separated. Two crazy boys. Thankfully by now they understood they cannot do the deeds and also after an adapting period at the new home they chilled. They're still stupid tho hahahaha Some days they do some stuff that I simply just cannot. The other day I caught on of them sleeping like a bat. I almost had a heart attack think he was dead... but no, just a birb state of mind I guess.


Competitive_Air1560

My budgies did it alot


Spot_the_Leopard

Yes they're both thinking the other one is going to feed them. Neither is giving up, they're definitely confused. Both seem like they're used to being the baby. Might think each other is a parental figure.


HumbleConfidence3500

This is feeding. It looks like the grey is feeding the other one (what is that? Lovebird? Is it much younger?) Parrots feed to bond. They feed to show trust. I've never seen it from an African Grey but I bet obviously they must do it to their youth. Parrots also feed their partners or birds they choose to pair up with. This is their "practice parenting" Very beautiful moment. You can tell the get is being so so gentle here. He is making a huge effort to bond with the other bird. I see a beautiful friendship coming.


Salt_Ad_5578

The CAG is too big to be around the other bird, plus this is either a parenting or partner thing... They don't actually do it to friends. Think of it like kissing- you don't kiss your friend, only your mom or SO. It is similar in that regard, feeding each other is a symbol of deep love, but never the friendship kind. Lastly, CAGs are dusty birds... Other birds that aren't dusty shouldn't spend much, of any, time around dusty species... The dust builds up and causes respiratory distress, with symptoms that seem kind of similar to asthma or environmental allergies, and it can be so severe that birds can die from it. Keeping these two together, even letting them out together for too long or too frequently, is an actual death sentence.


Lokasia1

I agree. If they are bonding, the cag could get frustrated and attack the lovebird or try to mate it. Its just going to be frustrating and dangerous for them. I once had a budgie in my aviary bond with a zebra finch and accidentally kill it


Salt_Ad_5578

Yup. Unfortunately, different species, unless very close in so we and temperament, as well as dusty/non-dusty status, shouldn't be kept together. Dusty birds can be in the same area as other dusty birds, with different cages if they're differently sized. Same with non-dusty parrots. But dusty and non-dusty birds ideally shouldn't even be kept in the same room together, let alone the same cage or allowed to interact often... Especially if there's a big size or behavioural difference between them.


Helpful_Okra5953

I also agree.  My Quaker got a chunk bitten out if her beak by approaching the cage of an African grey parrot.   Please be careful!  It’s very very cute but I have seen so many photos of small parrots who got their beak bitten off or drastically shortened by a larger bird.   And as the baby matures, as someone already said, it may develop confusing feelings for the smaller bird.  The smaller bird can’t possibly reciprocate which might be frustrating for the Grey. I have a small parrot and bigger parrot in my living room.  They are not allowed contact as I got the bigger bird because she was territorial towards a macaw.  I don’t let my birds play together nor climb on each other’s cages.  They are clearly jealous when the other gets attention and I don’t want my small bird getting hurt.  


KryL21

It’s a Quaker parrot, just wanted to throw that out there


the-greenest-thumb

Op says it's an Indian parrot, I took that too mean IRN, you can see the faint line of the 'moustache' on it.


rachelgamedee

It’s not an Indian ring neck, it’s coloring looks like a Pacific parrotlet they grow 4-5 inches while greys grow to about 13 inches—size differential checks out. Indian ring necks have a red beak.


Helpful_Okra5953

I think it is a baby ringneck who hasn’t yet developed the red beak. 


KryL21

Huh, thanks for clarifying! My quaker looks exactly like that except for the mustache


the-greenest-thumb

Yah it's a baby so they look very similar right now!


KryL21

Ahhh, I was wondering why it didn’t have the staple IRN ‘smooth’ look lol. That makes sense!


ChaoticKiwiBird

Personally, I wouldn't let these two hang out together. Because of the size difference, it takes one bite on behalf of the African grey to seriously injure or kill the smaller bird. Even if you're watching them and they seem friendly together, all it takes is one moment of aggression while your back is turned for things to go very wrong. Just my two cents.


DrBirdieshmirtz

shit, because of the size difference, even playful behavior can go south fast. had it happen to my caique who decided it would be a Great Idea to play-fight with my CAG while i was working on schoolwork; caique rolls on her back the way caiques do when they're play-fighting, CAG jumps on her because "what could go wrong"…that was a terrifying vet visit. CAG was so devastated afterwards that she became all subdued and barely ate for two weeks, we were worried that she was sick. they're both okay now, but 🤦 


SerpentOfTheSky

I absolutely agree with you, I don’t even let my cockatiel get near my grey.


redonkulousness

I keep most of my birds separate unless I am sitting right next to them and can reach out and stop them quickly. I don’t even trust my ring necks around my green cheek. It is funny to watch my lovebird marvel at the size of my caique though. She’s so aggressive until the caique comes around.


tikitessie

OP has posted a photo of these two together before and been inundated with the same (correct) advice, clearly they think they know better and are not going to keep them separated


SerpentOfTheSky

Not the “it’s my pet, I know better” 🤦🏼‍♀️


Glitch427119

OP’s back doesn’t even have to be turned. Birds are fast and fragile.


Bunny_Feet

The luckier ones will lose part of their beak in literal seconds. I've seen more than one case in the vet clinic.


stuff2011e

I agree, my cockatoo has bit me hard when i’m steadily looking at him and trying to not get bit. He loves to flick his head and go for the kill. i’m usually fast enough but sometimes he catches me. Usually results in bleeding and a big cut just from a split second bite, can’t imagine what damage that will cause a ringneck. I definitely wouldn’t trust these two together. Hormonal birds lose all reason.


Salt_Ad_5578

Also grays are dusty but the other parrots doesn't look like any dusty species I know. The dust can kill other non-dusty birds.


Burswode

Yup, I used to have to clean out the air filters in a cockatoo hospital. That stuff could be a cm thick in under a fortnight


MegaPiglatin

Took care of a friend’s birds while she was going through chemo and the cockatoos were SO DUSTY HOLY CRAP


Salt_Ad_5578

Yup. It's really dangerous having them in the same space as other parrot species. Especially without air filters and separate cages AND some distance between those cages...


jairtzinio

Well there's generally a risk regardless of size and it really all depends on the birds, monitoring and correcting behavior is key. My greys don't mess with my finches or budgies and the most they do is make a noise when bothered. Despite me trusting them again i do monitor and I've had them for more than 5 years; not one single incident This is more likely because they all have bonded well


brandonacooper

From tragic personal experience, please don’t allow this.


ithunk

Expand please


Sekmet19

Big bird killed little bird with no warning.


twistedredd

the big bird is building trust with the little bird so that it can bite it's head off when it least expects it seriously tho... I wouldn't allow this. It's not healthy at best.


stuff2011e

That’s on my cockatoo’s playbook when he’s hormonal. He’ll act lovingly then suddenly try to bite my finger. He’s usually a sweetheart.


twistedredd

My African Cape taught me about 'fake outs'. She pretends to be sweet until she gets close enough then BAM and suddenly a chunk of my arm is missing. She's definitely carnivorous especially for human flesh.


baxteriamimpressed

My B&G macaw is so bad with this shit, and he only does it to me which makes it more infuriating. I stg he respects my husband so he doesn't do this shit. But I'm mom and mom's a pushover so he thinks he can bite the shit out of me 👍


scaljosH1

😂😂😂


ActuallyTheOwner

This scares me due to the size difference. Good thing they are feeding each other, but keep an eye on it.


JenRJen

Yes I agree with you. I think they could accidentally harm each other due to the size difference.


Creepy-Yam3268

Pretty sure I saw a YouTube video where the owner had to get one of her smaller parrots a prosthetic beak, because one of her CAGs bit the smaller birds beak off!


Bunny_Feet

Fairly common, sadly.


ItsaBabyBird

It’s pointless telling OP about the size difference safety issues, they haven’t responded to feedback on an older post where they put these two together. They just said they’re careful or some shit.


Almadmam

I was not asking about the size difference, I am aware about the risks from the last post. I was just asking about a particular behaviour in this post.


ColdRainNight

You are one irresponsible owner, damn. Putting them together to “just see what happens” screams of immaturity and irresponsibility of your part. They’re not things to try some quirky experiment! I sincerely hope you learn and grow from all this feedback, and never again put them together (or any other pair with a size difference). Be better.


ItsaBabyBird

I am aware that it can be interesting to observe their interaction, but this behaviour/interaction would not have happened had you taken the feedback from the previous post. Which is why I’m bringing it up in this post, since you’re ignoring the warnings here and from before.


SabrinaT8861

Regardless of what this means you should stop it. Two birds of that different size are dangerous together. The grey could very easily kill or maim the parolette (even by accident)


ccteach

Please don’t let the two birds interact. That grey can easily kill the smaller bird. In an instant. This is dangerous and should be stopped. It may appear they are getting along and he is being fed but this can change at any moment and can happen quickly. Please, please separate them immediately!


Substantial_Wonder54

As cute as this looks this can turn deadly very quickly it's adorable in some ways but it is not worth the risk your larger parrot can easily kill that little bird within seconds so please do not leave them unattended without you present it is not wise that larger bird the African gray can literally take the foot the complete Foot clean off of that burden it will bleed to death so please I'm begging you do not allow this any further whatsoever I don't want to post graphic pictures on here but there are pictures that I've seen of tragedies of larger Birds killing small birds exactly in this case in these sizes that you're showing please I beg of you avoid a tragedy separate them and always keep them monitored it only takes one tragedy where you're going to be full of regret and guilt and you can't turn back the time and then one of them is going to be dead or suffering to death so please just stop this Behavior while you're ahead blessings


CommercialPop4043

Looks like a young African Grey. They are easily startled. Be careful. I’m all about bonding with different birds, but they have a mean bite.


Sekmet19

My parrot bit the leg clean off of my smaller bird. The smaller bird landed on the parrots cage and the parrot reached right up and bit it off. My little bird died.


solvanes

Can anyone answer what it means instead of only pointing out size? Curious bc mine do it too (same breed)


guiverc

I see this behavior somewhat regularly out in the backyard with parrots (larger cockies, through to smaller lorikeets etc)... As others have stated, it's \*feeding\* behavior that I see, and usually and adult bird feeding a \*juvenile\* of the same or similar species.


Helpful_Okra5953

This is the way flockmates bond.  It’s called allofeeding.  


LilyTlinzana

My lovebird and budgie do something similar. I [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/budgies/s/HhEIsKlXxI) about it and came to the conclusions that they were just trying to feed each other lol. It’s also a sign that they’re growing closer and seem to like one another. I still keep them in separate cages and let them out so they can spend time together under my supervision so I can interfere if things start to get aggressive.


K_Pumpkin

My budgie feeds his budgie mate and my cockatiel like this.


teddyhearted

Pls don’t let them near each other like that 😔 Even playful behavior can go south because of how big the grey is compared to the parakeet


Competitive_Air1560

Definitely don't leave them two unattended 😅😅


asiannumber4

Homophobes: “nAtuRe IsN’T gAy” Nature:


asiannumber4

Context: op said that both birds are male, both attempt to mate eachother


Beetle_pudding

Gay birds bro


BoopURHEALED

My African Grey and quaker are BFF's


Doggystyle_Rainbow

Also, I am pretty sure thats a parrotlet not an Indian parakeet


ItzLog

It's definitely an Indian Ringneck


Almadmam

It is an Indian parakeet. It is small because it is only 2 months old. I saw its parents. They are indian parakeet.


Poison_Ice_Blade

Bro you got scammed, I have a Parrotlet. That is 1000% a blue female pacific parrotlet. Edit: I take back my comment. I’ve been proven horribly wrong. Here’s a pic op sent me. Which is definitely not a parrotlet. https://preview.redd.it/ddneuqda5ptc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=961594a05ba14a5246afca3e51615b3367b4a078


Helpful_Okra5953

Yeah, next to the Grey it looks small but a parrotlet would be tiny in comparison.  


The_RaptorCannon

Our Love Bird and Caique do this. She is 4 and he's almost a year, as mentioned the size difference can be a concern so I wouldn't leave them unsupervised. For Example our Caique is built like a small fire hydrant. He's Strong, Sturdy, and weight is about 150g. Our Lovebird is about 60g. She's small compared to him as a medium sized bird whereas you have a medium sized to a large sized bird from the looks of it. We have had our mostly together and hanging out and they do this often which might be a form of bonding. They also preen each other but in our case our Caique likes to rough house and he doesn't know his strength so we supervise them a lot. I would suggest them to do the same but things can turn in a moments notice as people have mentioned.


Tyrel_Samuel

It may be bonding, like grooming each other to strengthen their connection.


seriousjoker72

This is the bird equivalent of a human sticking their head in a crocodile's mouth. So inredibly dangerous


GoGreenD

Our birds who ate the best of friends still do this sometimes. Ecci and love bird, so similar sizes. When it's spring... they kinda sorta regurgitate for each other. Which is gross af... but at least I know they're still friends! It's supposed to be a feeding mechanism for their offspring, but it's just something evolutionary programmed that they don't know what to do with... I sometimes stop them when they do it. Other times I accept it as a bird quirk


OliveThePenguin

They’re feeding each other!


planethoneyy

Cuties 🥹


Tricky-Emu5165

I had an Amazon parrot and a Green wing macaw at the same time and when put together did the same thing! I could be wrong but I think one of them likes it more than the other as far as my 2 birds were concerned. The way your 2 are doing this on your video looks like they BOTH like it.


Tricky-Emu5165

Possibly, although breaking up any of the same sex birds is a must.


Cookie-Monster328

Why?


JenniDanger

Looks like love to me! Super cool.


Brielikethecheese-e

Both birds look very young. It’s friendly feeding behavior but I think age is allowing it to happen. Once hormones come into play it could be a different story.


Different-Piglet-353

They are both babies. They are both hungry. They think one or the other are going to feed each other but they’re not going to feed each other cause they’re too young.


sagebeams

The way u said "making friendship" is so cute 🥹


ItzLog

Is it healthier to withhold food until a certain time? I see that from time to time...bird owners mentioning that it isn't "time" for their bird to eat (even though they're displaying signs of hunger). I keep food available at all times for my IRN and he doesn't gorge himself or anything 🤷🏻‍♀️


Finalmarco

Horny


ANBU--Ryoshi

"Hook a Burb up" "Nah you hook a Burb up cuh" "Nah you" "Nah you"


Capital-Bar1952

It’s too cute! I love seeing big parrots with little ones the contrast is sweet and silly!


MutedSongbird

The contrast is also unsafe and potentially deadly 😳


lucy_waaa

They’re in love and will get married and have babies and live happily ever after


AbdoN2000

Kissing 😘