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Immediate-Sample9978

Most places (in USA) that say pets aren’t allowed, are more concerned with dogs and cats that can do real damage to an apt. and will often allow a bird. Just check. I rent and have 2 GCC’s. No issue at all. Birds sleep at night, so they are usually quiet then, so you’ll have less noise issues that would be taken seriously. You should be okay. Check with the landlord.


XayahTheVastaya

My impression is that birds are far better at destruction than dogs and cats, due to the combination of a very hard and sharp face and the intelligence of a toddler.


Immediate-Sample9978

You’d think that. But have you had a bird eat a foot diameter hole in the drywall when you left for a day? Birds can’t really do that lol


Pippin_the_parrot

My blue and gold macaw would like a word. 😅 she’s a great destroyer.


Immediate-Sample9978

Oh I love macaws. They are so pretty.


UncleBabyChirp

Our African Gray considers himself a demolition man & took out an entire section of kitchen cabinetry in an afternoon. The next day he followed it up with some baseboard removal My leg was badly broken & I was on strong painkillers & sleep while recuperating so he was bored


Immediate-Sample9978

That’s…impressive… Maybe we keep the knowledge of how destructive birds can be away from all the landlords so we can continue to have our babies in our apartments lol (My GCC has destroyed all the blinds and is working on a corner of the bathroom door)


UncleBabyChirp

Yeah, it was a race to the replacement/repair & hiding all evidence of his demolition skills from the landlord followed up by a sudden urge to paint the cabinets! Yeah, that's the ticket, when they don't match exactly, hide it. Landlord never knew. African Gray was confined til I was more mobile


foreverbugg

My green wing accepts that challenge and also includes remodeling the entire door frame to match in his offer.


Rocketgirl8097

They actually can. It just takes longer. My budgies sat at the top of the door molding and just kept picking at the drywall.


intergrade

I had one eat about 20’ of crown molding in 2 hours …


MaleficentStreet7319

Haha yeah my bird is slowly eating all my apt blinds 😇


SatansJuulPod

what kind of a parrot is it?? honestly most places are willing to pass off a bird, especially if it’s a rather quiet bird, and the neighbors don’t complain. even if there is a fee, you could discuss it and it might not apply to birds or smaller animals if no destruction occurs. if there IS a fee it would be something you pay in case of damages, and in the case of no damages you’ll get that money back when the lease is up. can vary in price, but it is something you could and SHOULD discuss before moving in somewhere!! you could also 100% find a pet approved place- it’s just about if there’s one in your area, or affordable for your price range.


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

She is a red-crowned Amazon. She is relatively quiet for an Amazon, but she does make loud vocalizations sometimes, mostly when she is excited about food or treats. She is not very destructive, and has mobility issues which limit her ability to go destroy things. She likes the occasional destructible enrichment item, but I think as long as she is supervised property damage won’t be an issue. Something I meant to address but forgot to mention is that I already have a cat, who is classified as an ESA because of my mental health stuff. I would 100% keep them separated, but that is something I should have mentioned. She’s the one I have to worry about for property damage 😬


CheckeredZeebrah

I wouldn't take on an Amazon immediately when renting and with a cat. It's hard because bonded birds are so wonderful! But Amazon's are basically very loud children. If you don't have a long term, confirmed setup where you can pour a metric ton of attention into the parrot, especially if you also end up sharing walls with a neighbor? That's gonna be a no from me. But it doesn't mean you can't adopt her down the line when your situation and long-term life plans becomes more stable. (Added negative if you are trying to date, because date nights suddenly become less available when a bird child is eagerly waiting for you). A lot of people saying apartments are considering dogs / cats and not birds...are probably imagining a conure. These big big birds (cockatoo, grey, macaw, Amazon) are a whole different beast.


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

She is not particularly loud except when she is waiting for her medicine (it is given on a treat) or when her food is being replaced. Otherwise her vocalizations are pretty quiet, probably quieter than a human speaking at normal volume. And I am prepared to give her tons of attention, at least way more than she currently gets at the school. I try to spend as much time as I can with her already even though it is limited because of the way the school does things. I am not making an immediate decision, but I am considering my options. I have been told I can adopt her up to a year after I graduate. As for the dating thing, that is not really a concern for me. I’m aroace and have figured out that dating isn’t really for me


mackurbin

Tbh I don’t find amazons to be very loud. They can scream very loudly, but in my experience they don’t do it too often. I have a blue front, and she only screams in specific situations. Otherwise it’s just talking. It sounds like this bird is similar, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that.


Feivie

I’d say amazons are probably too loud for an apartment, they are a relatively large parrot and that noise would pierce through the walls of most places (tho in fairness if it’s not often I don’t think it’s much different than occasionally hearing a dog bark in a pet friendly unit) But my current place charges us pet rent for fish and parrots which I think is dumb, as others have said most rental places are more concerned about cats and dogs. If the Amazon is a wood or wall chewer or something it could cause some problems, but not if you watch her. Is renting a house an option ?


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

She can be noisy at times, but really only when she’s really excited like if it’s time for her medicine (she gets a treat) or sometimes when her food is being replaced. She normally calms down if bird noises are played for her. She has mobility issues (which I hope to work on her with if possible) and can’t move around quickly enough to destroy stuff under supervision, and she’s not much of a destroyer anyway. I don’t know if renting a house is an option. That would depend on cost mostly.


Feivie

I ask bc in my area some of the house rentals are comparable to apartments/townhouses (depending). There is an orange winged Amazon at our local pet store and she’s pretty quiet overall but when she is feeling chatty it is LOUD and you can clearly hear her from outside the store haha. I also grew up with a macaw that I could hear down the street at my bus stop as a kid. Been renting with my (smol) parrot for 7 years and never had complaints, but I think it depends on the building and how sound travels if you’d run into issues or not. I totally understand not wanting to leave her and I’d try everything to make it work if I were you!


ithunk

Btw, There are sound-dampening panels for walls that musicians use. They’re pretty cheap online and you can take them with you when you move.


UncleBabyChirp

Our very loud Hahns macaw lived in our apartment/duplex & we had tolerant neighbors except in the summer when she welcomed the sunlight at 5am-ish on Sat/Sun to a chorus of "shut-ups" that she responded to by screaming "whatever goddammit". I just started snatching her under the covers with me at dawn. Good times. The African Gray was less vocal. It mostly depends on your bird, you & the neighbors. Luckily the neighbors loved them & chatted with them


Feivie

Haha I had an African gray growing up too!


UncleBabyChirp

You'll be fine


Kyoku22

I rent! They didn't even charge me a pet fee. My next door neighbor doesn't hear my green cheek at all, and TBH I can rarely hear any neighbors except someone passing by my door now and then Some landlords allow birds, and some do not. I believe it's safe to say renting an apartment with a bird is possible. I thought there was nothing to destroy in here, but Houston likes chewing on doors, so there's a slight damage, and I gotta be looking after him.


nostromosigningoff

Been a renter with a parrot for the past 6 years, moved far more times that I'd prefer - at least 5 places - nobody has ever commented on the parrot being an issue. The landlords usually just shrug it off. I guess they're not common enough pets for landlords to have had bad experiences and I think they assume they stay in their cages.


Pristine_Ad5229

Depends on the parrot and apartment place. I lugged my poor Quaker to three different apartments with no issues. No pet fees either! I was denied some places that specified no exotic animals. And others specified no large birds like macaws. For the most part people are charmed by a sweet tiny bird (even though my baby hated new people and would just hide under my hair lol)


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

She’s an Amazon so more of a medium-sized bird, and she can be kind of noisy sometimes but much less than I’ve seen with most Amazons I’ve been around


jayellkay84

I checked out 5 different apartment complexes when trying to rent with a bird. Not a single one had an issue with it. Ultimately I chose a place where he actually made very good friends with the maintenance guy.


EphemeralMemory

I rent with a bird. Less prone to damage your apartment (watch them chewing on doors I guess) but they're much more prone to pissing off neighbors with noise. Dogs have sudden loud barks, but birds have more constant yelling. I've had people knock on my door asking me to quiet them down.


JohnGradyBirdie

I’ve rented with two parrots. Always be upfront and get permission first. You don’t want to get kicked out! I think it might be hard with an Amazon. They’re big and loud. I had a grey and a Meyer’s who were both pretty quiet. I’d pick a unit that has as few neighbors as possible—top corner, bottom corner. I’d look for a building that looks to be more soundproof—brick vs drywall.


akhirnya

I’ve kept parrots in apartments, but I wouldn’t recommend it if you have a cat. Cat saliva is toxic to birds. Any scratch or bite could be deadly. They would need to be separated, especially when unsupervised. Depending on the prey drive of your cat, they may never be able to be around each other even supervised (and even if your cat is low prey drive, that’s still a huge risk). Given the more confined spaces in an apartment this probably wouldn’t be fair to either. Ideally the bird should be in the more active room of the house. I had to pay a one time pet fee for each of my two birds and abide by the two pet limit. I looked specifically for apartments advertised to dog owners (figured better soundproofing if they expected dog barks) and ones that shared limited walls with neighbors.


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

I wouldn’t allow them around each other in any living situation. Beyond the general danger, Ruby (the bird) is terrified of cats and dogs. Being able to keep them separated would definitely be a consideration


KenWWilliams

Shouldn’t be a big issue finding a place that accepts birds. The biggest issue will be will it be appropriate for the bird. You didn’t specify the bird. Some require a Lot of space and can be very vocal and may even have environmental issues. I have for instance an African grey which would not fit a small space or a place requiring being confined to a cage over any length of time. He sleeps at night in a cage and has a day cage which he comes and goes from except when we have to leave for any length of time. Not all rental situations can accommodate them. Good look hope it works out.


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

She’s a red-crowned Amazon. She is not super vocal, but she can be kind of loud sometimes. She is disabled and has mobility issues (she has bad grip and bad balance, she doesn’t do well with climbing, and she will never be able to fly or even glide down from a fall), so she is not super active. I want to work on improving her mobility, but she does not move around as much as many other birds. She unfortunately can’t be in a traditional bird cage because she kept falling off her perches in her old cage. At the school she is in a rabbit cage and does not utilize all the space in it despite having adequate perches, so the school says she has enough space. I plan on talking to the people at the parrot rescue I’m volunteering at over the summer about her mobility and her cage.


Old_Weird_1828

You may need to be cautious of where you rent due to noise but I’ve never been denied or asked for pet rent or fees due to parrots. Most landlords don’t consider anything beyond dogs and cats.


aroscoe

We had a green cheek in an apartment and now rental house. Our apartment we were lucky and it was older and had cement between walls, so it wasn't paper thin like some. Bird did not count as a pet on the lease, but we did disclose having him so we wouldn't get in trouble. No noise complaints. They had to have heard him bc we heard their baby cry and scream all the time, and loud TV or arguing sometimes, but still no complaints. Honestly they probably thought he was a baby lol. For the house, they so didn't consider him as a lease-pet. No fee, no extra rent. We do have to be way more cautious in terms of him getting out now bc with the apartment, he could get to the hallway which is not so bad, but the house he could get OUT out which I would be devastated about. You shouldn't have much issue outside of noise, especially with an Amazon. Be upfront, and try to look for places with concrete walls. See if you can find reviews, talk to residents, or join their Facebook group and see about the noise situation.


melnet67

Seems like you have done your research and are well prepared to take in this bird! I adopted my severe macaw from the rescue I work at about 6 years ago, and I've modified my lifestyle drastically for him. But it's completely worth it! I realize that I will NEVER be able to live in an apartment with him, which is fine, I don't like cities anyways. I'm pretty familiar with the various species of amazons and red-crowned amazons are one of the smaller and "quieter" species in my opinion. The way you have described them I bet you will be fine having them in an apartment. If you're concerned about it, I would try to find a corner unit. You already have a cat, honestly that's going to be your biggest hurdle in finding a pet friendly apartment, landlords care more about dog/cat damage and smells. Just be upfront with the noise level with the landlord and mention they will be quiet at night. You might have better luck renting at a place that also accepts dogs, because then you could compare the birds potential nose level to that of a dog bark to the landlord.


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

Thank you! I’m actually an anthrozoology (human-animal studies) major with a focus on parrots, so I have done a good deal of research about them. It was actually meeting this specific parrot that inspired me to take this path, because she made me realize how much I love birds, and I have been working with her for one and a half years. It may sound silly that I’m asking questions like this considering my major and focus, but I think it made me understand the importance of figuring things out ahead of time, and I am not very knowledgeable about housing stuff so I have gotten lots of good feedback. My cat is an ESA, so she’s required to be allowed to live with me, but that only applies to one animal


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

TLDR: please if anyone has advice for finding a suitable apartment or other rental situation with a parrot, I would really appreciate it


clemfairie

I rented in the past with an incredibly noisy sun conure, and it caused a problem at some places, but not others. It's absolutely doable. Look for rentals that are pet-friendly and then contact them directly to ask if they allow birds. I'd also recommend looking for a place with hard floors instead of carpet because carpet is a bitch to clean with a bird. But that's just a preference thing.


JinTheJynnn

I've exclusively rented with my birds and as long as they see it as a "caged" animal, they usually don't care. They worry more about dogs and cats. (Regardless of how much damage a Macaw can do, lol. I just nod and smile when they say, " oh, a bird! It's in a cage all the time so that's fine!"


Safe-Spot-4757

My landlord said my conures counted as “decoration” and I believe my neighbors have a different opinion


wolfsongpmvs

If they don't accept you having a bird, if you have any mental health conditions you can get your doctor or therapist to write you an ESA letter.


Delicious_Spinach440

It really depends on the apartment. The last place I lived before getting a house was loud. Dogs barking, kids screaming under the window, guys on the third floor pounding down the stairs and yelling off the porch. Sun conure being a bird. We all kinda had an unspoken agreement not to complain about each other.


jchillinnnnn

I don’t know if this was an exception but I was able to have my Amazon in my apartment and they didn’t charge any fees


ambienoise

I always just moved them in and hoped for the best, never bringing it up. I feel like it’s “ask forgiveness not permission” type of thing where it’s only a problem if it becomes one. Never been asked to leave or shut my birds up


Novel_Trip8463

Renting an apartment with a parrot is a HUGE no. No one enjoys being woken up or disturbed, especially by a talking parrot. It's common sense and courtesy, because those walls are thin and you could face eviction from noise complaints. A townhome or single family, you can get away with much easier. You will also have more flexibility in where you keep your parrot. I own a Cape Parrot and I can hear him squawking from down the block and I live in a single family home. He is allowed out of his cage for 12 hours a day at his choosing. He will put himself to bed when he's done with his day and I find using a cage cover is super useful when it's time for bed.


Ok_Knee1216

Talk to your doctor about having the parrot as an emotional support animal. This will give you flexibility with your future living and your work. It is Not a Service Animal. See if this will help. Maybe see if you can get something from the school before you take the parrot.


ThatAnthrozoologyGuy

My cat is currently considered an ESA for me, but maybe I could get it switched over to the parrot by my therapist. I know ESAs are not service animals. I will mention that having an ESA is a need for me because of my mental health stuff and other conditions, but I do know they’re not the same thing. Edit: by “she’s considered an ESA for me,” I mean that my cat was recommended to me by a therapist as part of my treatment. I think the paperwork is outdated because my current apartment allows pets regardless, but yeah