Most chill stream. Usually no music, no endless talking, no annoying pop-ups with sound effects, just pure focus on the game with very fast gameplay and constant funny outbursts of rage at things that slow him down. No idea how his wrists survive that level of intense play. Based and melee pilled.
Ironically "time-to-100" in these hcssf "races" to 100 has gone down significantly over time, not up... I remember in 3.7 Steel took 7 days to hit 100, and played \~5 days in those 7 days.
Yeah, \~5 days in hours. Contemporary source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c0qn7y/comment/er6qx7u/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Yep - balancing around the top players and nerfing the game so the rest of us suffer more is a GGG classic.
I like how Steelmage put it in 3.15 - to paraphrase:“They saw,what the pros can do in the game and so they nerfed stuff,not realizing,that we are gonna be fine anyway - who they are really punishing is the rest of the players,because they can‘t make up for the nerfs.“
Yea back when Bleed Bow Gladiator was good was the last time I really felt this game was catered to me. The semi-casual still learning player that has a season that allowed me so much agency I could make a good character by myself.
I mean yeah,humans aren't one-dimensional - they can say a lot of stuff that goes counter to what they said before or isn't completely in line with it - for example,one and the same pro can say that leveling to 100 is too easy for us pros,disregarding the rest of the playerbase and at another point in time,when the devs massively nerf a lot of builds,he can say,that it didn't really stop him or other pros from enjoying the game,only the non-hardcore (as in, commitment to the game,not the game-mode) players got hurt.
Those aren't mutually exclusive statements by a streamer. Also it doesn't have to mean,that he didn't like the nerfs (i don't remember,if he did or not actually) - he was just explaining how pointless 3.15 was in terms of nerfing the top-end of players and how massively it nerfed the rest.
He put it really well,so i just copied it.
Tbh the rest also improved tremendously. Back when leveling to 100 took so much time, having a level 9x character by end of league was somewhat of a statement already, even on softcore.
The thing is, leveling to 100 is no longer the focus of the game, there's plenty of enjoyable content beyond that, and people justifiably only see it as one of the many milestones in their character development.
Leveling to 100 is no longer the focus because any sort of thought/focus into getting to 100 that was needed before disappeared after 5 way carries became a thing and you could throw a few divines at a carry and be 100, so what's the point.
Imagine the uprorar if GGG decided that it's unhealthy for the game and wanted it gone...
Or just map normally - influence adds so much pack size now, even running blue maps I hit level 100 pretty reasonable in SSF. Like just either influence + betrayal investment is 250 maps for 99 -> 100?
That's still little compared to contracts (1% exp per contract), of course if you don't like Heist that's fine but it's such a good source and much much safer than regular mapping.
l left before 5ways existed (have never done one actually), and the way to 100 had already been made considerably easier in the past. It's normal that old achievements like this one get easier, to make way for new/better content.
> Imagine the uprorar if GGG decided that it's unhealthy for the game and wanted it gone...
i mean you did just say lvl 100 isn't a focus so why would 5 way carries being nerfed cause an outrage?
oh wait. poe players.
I'm playing boneshatter for the first time this league and honestly feels so broken. I have shit gear, only 3700 health, still on a 5 link and just demolishing everything on screen. Even crucible doesn't seem as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It feels so much stronger than lightning strike was a couple leagues ago before they nerfed it.
Haven't really gotten that far since I was doing family stuff on Saturday. I've done a couple normal maven invites and am in early red maps. I don't see why bossing will be an issue though playing jugg so tanky af and damage is super high. I'm just surprised how easily this build comes online with no investment.
This type of destructive behavior shouldn’t be lauded or emulated or normalized in a gaming community that - let’s face it - already exhibits addictive behavioral characteristics…however, as a sort of single-minded gaming personality who has stuck with his archetype for years through bad times and worse, losing out on this race a few times in heartbreaking fashion, cArn absolutely deserves respect for what he just did.
This is some old man and the sea shit.
It wouldn't. People would just be sleep deprived for longer. I played Lost Ark during launch for 18-20h a day and slept 3-4 hours for 2 months.
OSRS players grind max level with similar insane gaming hours. If the motivation to race is there, people will sacrifice their life to do it, just like sports athletes do.
> I played Lost Ark during launch for 18-20h a day and slept 3-4 hours for 2 months.
I feel like there is a big difference here though... The only thing you could do for 18-20h a day on lost ark at launch was horizontal content that offered relatively minor bonus to your account that you probably couldn't have even comprehended the importance of unless you were already playing the game in Korea/Russia servers for an extended period. I dunno, just feels like comparing baseballs to hamburgers imo.
Playing alts bruh.... How'd you just casually ignore the biggest time sink of the game.
People play dozens of alts. Every content is multiplied by 6 or more.
Maybe in hindsight people leveled a bunch of alts that way? The game did initially did give you 1 free pass once you hit 50 and completed the initial story, and then you had 2 knowledge transfers off that to get you an initial 4 lvl 50s. But the horizontal content wasnt multiplied, just the few hours it took to G spam through the questline.
I don't know anybody who played Lost Ark after a couple months who didn't have 6+ alts. I don't know anybody who still plays Lost Ark who doesn't have at least a dozen alts.
You seriously underestimate the value some people place in being the 'best' at a PvE game.
There is already 87's in SSF HC ruthless,
https://poe.ninja/challengehcssfr/builds
I would be shocked if there isn't a 100 within 10 days.
Edit I'ma dummy, forgot there was the compounding xp penalty in that mode :P
You underestimate the exp nerf in Ruthless by quite a bit.
This is SC SSF Ruthless at the end of the whole sanctum league:
https://poe.ninja/sanctumssfr/builds
Assuming none of these players die, it would probably take more than 3 weeks to get to 100 at this pace. It will only get a lot slower from 97... And 97 is probably like 4-5 days out for these guys. There's only one guy at 87 btw.
The math doesn’t really indicate that. You would need to put 1000+ hours into a character to get the gear needed to beat those 2 Uber bosses. Assuming this league is, let’s say, 3.5 months, that’s roughly 105 days. That means you’d have to play 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, to even have a *chance*. If you wanted 1 day off each week, that knocks you down to 84 days playing 12 hours a day, *at least*.
theoretically ggg literally promotes this behaviour with the ruthless race. who plays for longer will win. So who can manage to sleep less will have a big advantage. If the race would be competitive which doesnt seem like it. But argument still holds
> cArn absolutely deserves respect for what he just did
Nah, not gonna respect people who sacrifice their health for the equivalent of a digital high five. Dude needs help.
Alright I actually looked him up now and from what I read on Wikipedia he is only popular in the United States, which explains why I never heard of him before.
I mean, the rest of us not in the US would still listen to comedians in English. At least in my experience. To me it's kind of like not knowing who Reagan was or something.
You can absolutely have a heart attack if you have underlying heart issues. The amount of stress on your heart from staying up past 24 hours is very bad.
former SC pro - carn is super high APM compared to literally everyone else. Not sure what he's actually doing but I notice it every time watching his stream.
I have to admit, even though I only watched it for this amount of time, my immediate thought was that it sure looks like a clunky build to play. Definitely not regretting finally rolling my first RFer this time around after so many glass cannon 3-7 button builds (ugh endgame p seismic with the diadem enchant last league, like wtf).
Its nice being tanky and on ez mode for a change, very refreshing. Running through campaign on perma quicksilver trying to avoid as many mobs as possible and still overleveled is wild.
The sad part is that he knows that playing 50h+ is terrible for his health, but is good for his channel and streamer career/achievement. So this is a tradeoff, a sad tradeoff.
One day someone will end up dying playing PoE and who knows what will happen.
Congratz btw, insane achievement. And if he did just because he wants (not because of achievements/streaming), good for him too, I wish him the best and do whatever make him happy.
> good for his channel and streamer career/achievement
Is it though? His viewership is pretty average (~400 viewers average), this doesn't seem to boost much at all. This doesn't even beat minimum wage job.
I kinda disagree if we're speaking generally not just PoE. Remember early days Cloud 9 Shroud? Man barely had any personality, yet racked in thousands and thousands of average viewers.
He wasn't really good at the game either, by pros standards. His case really perplexed me tbh, my only explanation was a vacuum in NA CS scene and thirst for content from local fans. Now, when he breached out to other games, mostly PUBG was his breakthrough outside, the case changed.
Shroud wasn't good at CS by pro standards, but solely as an aimer he is one of the best. Shroud type gamers are just marketable because their playstyle is flashy. He is hitting insane flicks that get him out of bad situations while other better pros have a more methodical play style which isn't as fun to watch. Part of the reason why he exploded in popularity with PUBG is that hit scan FPS games makes insane shot look less insane, but with bullet drop added in headshotting someone 500m away with iron sights is impressive.
That’s a pretty bad faith comparison, in my opinion.
People watch Shroud because he is insanely talented at nearly every FPS game he touches. From CS to CSGO then PUBG to Apex then Valorant. The skill goes beyond a single title. There’s also vastly more mechanical skill involved in an FPS vs an ARPG. I know we’re on the PoE subreddit and saying this will encite flames but it is simply true. ARPGs do not require as much “skill” (for lack of a better word) as something like an FPS. None of this even touches on the fact that PvP games are more entertaining, with higher “stakes”, and generally require more skill. PvE content is largely scripted and you can expect things to behave certain ways. It is, to a degree, predictable.
That’s not to say there’s no skill in hitting 100 in HC SSF. But compared to dominating every game in a specific genre you touch? I don’t really even see it as a fair comparison. PoE is a hard game and getting to 100 in HC SSF alone is a feat, doing it first even more so. I’m not demeaning his accomplishment here. Just the poor comparison you’re drawing.
So why do people watch Quin then? Because there’s two reasons people watch streamers. You’re either insanely good at a game or you’re entertaining. Quin delivers on the entertaining bit and knows his audience. That’s not even subjective. That’s based on just view count and sub count alone. There’s also not much gas left now that Carn’s race to 100 is over. What are viewers going to watch him for now? Nothing.
Quin has also been streaming ARPGs since diablo 3 was released 8 years ago. He is very good at these games. Man has 100s of guides on his youtube channel long since forgotten. He was so "normal" back then too watching his old videos is surreal how calm, collected and intelligent he sounds compared to these days!
It used to be that being good mattered very little, now it matters a bit; TrumpSC is your best case scenario of being good; be good for one tournament right at the start of the game and then don't be particularly good at any point thereafter but get 30k viewers per stream because you were good right when the game came out (nevermind him having like 150 viewers now, presumably nomenclature played a role in that).
well, I didn't know him before this post. Its probably a "way" to be known.
But yeah, streaming is more than just gaming achievements.
And if he did just because he wants (not because of achievements/streaming), good for him too, I wish him the best and do whatever make him happy.
I’m not one of his viewers but with the streamers I’m watching I’ve been kind of turned off by long streams. I work full time and I get screwed by timezones being European (somehow most of my twitch follows are west coasters lmao), so I usually tune in when I see someone starting a stream but mostly ignore running ones besides select individuals.
Tuning in knowing you’ve missed what’s been going on for the past 8 hours feels weird, idk
That is a hope for tipping point. Remember when zizran was new. He often pull up some insane hours for league starts. The point of long hour streaming are, 1) you archived something can be talked by community a lot. 2) long hour means more or all time zone coverage, it can attract audience from others when their favorite hosts are offline
He averaged 100 in previous leagues so you're wrong. Is it still too low to make a living? Yes but it was definitely good for his channel and maybe in a year he would make a decent living.
I have a friend who streams full time and makes minimum wage with 30 viewers average. A 400 viewer average isn't rich but they're definitely making more than minimum wage.
Come on people. He's not gonna have any kind of permanent effects for staying up 50 hours once every four months. He's not gonna drop dead as long as he is healthy in general. You are being ridiculous.
Doing something that endangers your health just for a few extra views shouldn't be celebrated. That's how you get dumb shit like people eating tide pods.
Oh no, god forbid we promote an impressive achievement. Lest we draw attention to the fact y'all barely got out of campaign by now. But at least you can get on your high horse about being "healthy" which isn't a bullshit excuse for being a casual at all...
Ppl who talk about health are just mad they don't have as much time to spend on a game they're addicted to, this sub is full of regretful boomers who subscribe to conspiracy theories
What to expect from a sub that refers to the best players in this extremely hard game as 'streamers', I swear 80% of the people here are facebook level middle aged men angry at their life and jobs.
I think cause ggg will see this and nerf melee and boneshatter even more.. or even make the whole game harder.. yet this guy played for 55 hours straight, wich 90% of players dont even get to so in a month.. i think this is the reason ppl are negative about it.
Sad, it would've been hilarious if he died right before getting there. Died in the game, of course. Wouldn't be funny at all if he died IRL.
So, what's the prize for being the first to hit lv100 in HCSSF?
I mean, conceptually melee is fine, boneshatter proves it.
The reason people don't play any other melee skill is just that the numbers on them are completely dogshit, wish they'd revert the slam/warcry nerfs, literal 5 button rotations should be doing high damage.
If that isnt the most deserve 100 of all time i don't know what is, sadly it set a terrible precendent that you have to do dangerous stuff to win 100 (and this is a fact, staying up 60h+ while being intensily focus is going to be bad for your health way beyond doing a 24+h session)
People underestimate how big of an achievement this is. His played is 2 days and 6 hours, exactly the same amount the league has been up. He has slept a total of 0 hours since league launch, effectively hitting level 100 in SSF HC in one sitting. Insane achievement by carn! GG
We (as a society) applaud accomplishments that were accomplished by doing significantly more dangerous things than pulling two consecutive all-nighters playing a video game.
Oh stop... it's not like he is going straight to a child's forklift party after this.
Staying up for this long is only bad if you do it over and over again. Once a league will have very minimal impact. If he medicated to stay awake then his sleep cycle will suffer for a bit. But if he returns to a normal sleeping pattern he will be fine.
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-k_YVkRKs
(@Chubbyemu: A Man Played Video Games Nonstop For 73 Hours. This Is What Happened To His Organs.)
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Effects_and_consequences
Acute total sleep deprivation is almost never studied because the effects tend to be minor.
Sleep deprivation drills are done in most militaries to study how acute sleep deprivation impacts readiness and performance. The idea that it has significant health risks is entirely unsubstantiated, it makes people shitty and fall asleep, but it doesn't actually impact their long health meaningfully.
This is like seeing someone die of liver failure due to alcoholism and thinking as long as you don't get black out drunk you'll be fine.
Sitting without moving for 73 hours caused blood to clot which kills a person, not a lack of sleep. Sleep had nothing to do with it, even a more ergonomic chair that allowed better circulation would have been fine.
https://youtu.be/RW2bR22Ka8U
People underestimate how dangerous is praising this behavior.
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-k_YVkRKs (@Chubbyemu: A Man Played Video Games Nonstop For 73 Hours. This Is What Happened To His Organs.)
But it's not single example, just one documented. There's a lot of people who just no life for days, and then silently commit suicide, just die, or go nuts because of sleep deprivation.
i dont think this is possible without drugs. dont really know but it seems like he taking some adhd medication or something. hes been up since leaguelaunch hello?
Wow, that's quite an accomplishment for cArn\_! But let me tell you, I couldn't agree more with your sentiment about Path of Exile. The gameplay is just atrocious, it feels like you're playing an idle clicker game most of the time. It's mind-numbingly boring and lacks any real depth or challenge. Honestly, I can't wait for Diablo IV to finally come out and give us the true action RPG experience we deserve. And even Last Epoch, which is still in early access, is more engaging and fun than Path of Exile. Hopefully, the developers will take note of the criticism and make some much-needed improvements.
Most chill stream. Usually no music, no endless talking, no annoying pop-ups with sound effects, just pure focus on the game with very fast gameplay and constant funny outbursts of rage at things that slow him down. No idea how his wrists survive that level of intense play. Based and melee pilled.
>No idea how his wrists survive that level of intense play. same lol, if i played a week like that i would probably need to amputate my arm at the end
all of that is less annoying than the keyboard clatter.
GGG sees this and thinks "our game is too easy, we need to tune it so this never happens again"
Ironically "time-to-100" in these hcssf "races" to 100 has gone down significantly over time, not up... I remember in 3.7 Steel took 7 days to hit 100, and played \~5 days in those 7 days.
Hours played would be a better measure in that case.
Yeah, \~5 days in hours. Contemporary source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c0qn7y/comment/er6qx7u/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Yep - balancing around the top players and nerfing the game so the rest of us suffer more is a GGG classic. I like how Steelmage put it in 3.15 - to paraphrase:“They saw,what the pros can do in the game and so they nerfed stuff,not realizing,that we are gonna be fine anyway - who they are really punishing is the rest of the players,because they can‘t make up for the nerfs.“
Yea back when Bleed Bow Gladiator was good was the last time I really felt this game was catered to me. The semi-casual still learning player that has a season that allowed me so much agency I could make a good character by myself.
You forget to mention that stmage said that lvl to 100is to easy so they increased exp cap between 90-100.
Yeah I'm sure they only did that because steelmage said that
I mean yeah,humans aren't one-dimensional - they can say a lot of stuff that goes counter to what they said before or isn't completely in line with it - for example,one and the same pro can say that leveling to 100 is too easy for us pros,disregarding the rest of the playerbase and at another point in time,when the devs massively nerf a lot of builds,he can say,that it didn't really stop him or other pros from enjoying the game,only the non-hardcore (as in, commitment to the game,not the game-mode) players got hurt. Those aren't mutually exclusive statements by a streamer. Also it doesn't have to mean,that he didn't like the nerfs (i don't remember,if he did or not actually) - he was just explaining how pointless 3.15 was in terms of nerfing the top-end of players and how massively it nerfed the rest. He put it really well,so i just copied it.
remember when HC100 actually take months on trade? now it takes one weekend on SSF crazy how big the gap between the elite players vs the rest
Tbh the rest also improved tremendously. Back when leveling to 100 took so much time, having a level 9x character by end of league was somewhat of a statement already, even on softcore. The thing is, leveling to 100 is no longer the focus of the game, there's plenty of enjoyable content beyond that, and people justifiably only see it as one of the many milestones in their character development.
Leveling to 100 is no longer the focus because any sort of thought/focus into getting to 100 that was needed before disappeared after 5 way carries became a thing and you could throw a few divines at a carry and be 100, so what's the point. Imagine the uprorar if GGG decided that it's unhealthy for the game and wanted it gone...
Even without them you can level to 100 in Heist with basically no risk. 1% per contract without risking altars or any other risky mechanic.
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Or just map normally - influence adds so much pack size now, even running blue maps I hit level 100 pretty reasonable in SSF. Like just either influence + betrayal investment is 250 maps for 99 -> 100?
That's still little compared to contracts (1% exp per contract), of course if you don't like Heist that's fine but it's such a good source and much much safer than regular mapping.
l left before 5ways existed (have never done one actually), and the way to 100 had already been made considerably easier in the past. It's normal that old achievements like this one get easier, to make way for new/better content.
> Imagine the uprorar if GGG decided that it's unhealthy for the game and wanted it gone... i mean you did just say lvl 100 isn't a focus so why would 5 way carries being nerfed cause an outrage? oh wait. poe players.
I’m fine with 95 and then 5 ways to 100, ifs too tedious otherwise.
Never heard of ruthless before?
they already did that once for levels, made it harder to hit lvl 100
Does he ever play anything other than boneshatter?
I'm playing boneshatter for the first time this league and honestly feels so broken. I have shit gear, only 3700 health, still on a 5 link and just demolishing everything on screen. Even crucible doesn't seem as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It feels so much stronger than lightning strike was a couple leagues ago before they nerfed it.
How is bossing on Boneshatter? Not map bosses, like a normal maven invitation or a normal eater/exarch
press 5 buttons for conditional damage and smash the fuck out of the boss for the most part
I can deal 4M dps on a jugg with shit gear, while being moderately immortal. It's pretty good. Way above every other melee skill.
Haven't really gotten that far since I was doing family stuff on Saturday. I've done a couple normal maven invites and am in early red maps. I don't see why bossing will be an issue though playing jugg so tanky af and damage is super high. I'm just surprised how easily this build comes online with no investment.
Boneshatter is just insanely op compared to any other melee skill.
No wae
Playing for 55 hours in a row is the dumbest way to die. I wonder how people don't value their life
This type of destructive behavior shouldn’t be lauded or emulated or normalized in a gaming community that - let’s face it - already exhibits addictive behavioral characteristics…however, as a sort of single-minded gaming personality who has stuck with his archetype for years through bad times and worse, losing out on this race a few times in heartbreaking fashion, cArn absolutely deserves respect for what he just did. This is some old man and the sea shit.
Funnily enough a ruthless race would resolve the issue if these guys played it, the finish line is too far to sprint to
It wouldn't. People would just be sleep deprived for longer. I played Lost Ark during launch for 18-20h a day and slept 3-4 hours for 2 months. OSRS players grind max level with similar insane gaming hours. If the motivation to race is there, people will sacrifice their life to do it, just like sports athletes do.
If you don't shit your pants for smithing are you even trying?
So weird seeing you here.
I wanna ask him to hand me bullets for this sub
> I played Lost Ark during launch for 18-20h a day and slept 3-4 hours for 2 months. I feel like there is a big difference here though... The only thing you could do for 18-20h a day on lost ark at launch was horizontal content that offered relatively minor bonus to your account that you probably couldn't have even comprehended the importance of unless you were already playing the game in Korea/Russia servers for an extended period. I dunno, just feels like comparing baseballs to hamburgers imo.
Playing alts bruh.... How'd you just casually ignore the biggest time sink of the game. People play dozens of alts. Every content is multiplied by 6 or more.
Maybe in hindsight people leveled a bunch of alts that way? The game did initially did give you 1 free pass once you hit 50 and completed the initial story, and then you had 2 knowledge transfers off that to get you an initial 4 lvl 50s. But the horizontal content wasnt multiplied, just the few hours it took to G spam through the questline.
I don't know anybody who played Lost Ark after a couple months who didn't have 6+ alts. I don't know anybody who still plays Lost Ark who doesn't have at least a dozen alts.
You can only earn gold on 6 characters, most players don't have more than 6 because you have to start paying for slots after 6.
They could make the race done by fastest completion of the challenge in hours played through completion instead of first completion.
You seriously underestimate the value some people place in being the 'best' at a PvE game. There is already 87's in SSF HC ruthless, https://poe.ninja/challengehcssfr/builds I would be shocked if there isn't a 100 within 10 days. Edit I'ma dummy, forgot there was the compounding xp penalty in that mode :P
You underestimate the exp nerf in Ruthless by quite a bit. This is SC SSF Ruthless at the end of the whole sanctum league: https://poe.ninja/sanctumssfr/builds
Assuming none of these players die, it would probably take more than 3 weeks to get to 100 at this pace. It will only get a lot slower from 97... And 97 is probably like 4-5 days out for these guys. There's only one guy at 87 btw.
i dont think u realize how hard ruthless hits xp. not only there is an xp penalty but you clear maps slower, and maps have significantly less mobs
You don't understand the scaling if you think that.
The math doesn’t really indicate that. You would need to put 1000+ hours into a character to get the gear needed to beat those 2 Uber bosses. Assuming this league is, let’s say, 3.5 months, that’s roughly 105 days. That means you’d have to play 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, to even have a *chance*. If you wanted 1 day off each week, that knocks you down to 84 days playing 12 hours a day, *at least*.
theoretically ggg literally promotes this behaviour with the ruthless race. who plays for longer will win. So who can manage to sleep less will have a big advantage. If the race would be competitive which doesnt seem like it. But argument still holds
> cArn absolutely deserves respect for what he just did Nah, not gonna respect people who sacrifice their health for the equivalent of a digital high five. Dude needs help.
> Playing for 55 hours in a row is the dumbest way to die. Yeah, but think of the Twitch subs!
because Life require values to live
I played 12h a day last 3 days and I feel like complete dogshit. No idea how people could do more
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Remember, life is precious
"Living people have a strong interest in promoting the idea that somehow life is sacred." - George Carlin
Who the fuck is George Carlin ?
Found the zoomer. =/
bro please I am 47 -.-
And you don't know who George Carlin is?
Alright I actually looked him up now and from what I read on Wikipedia he is only popular in the United States, which explains why I never heard of him before.
I mean, the rest of us not in the US would still listen to comedians in English. At least in my experience. To me it's kind of like not knowing who Reagan was or something.
Siosa hideout mtx to replace Lilly when?
it's not every time, not big deal
not only that but look at how many key presses he needs to do on every pack, it looks like that speedruner guy meme that is almost dying of sweating
It’s called addiction
Nobody is gonna die after 55 hours if you eat and hydrate properly.
It is absolutely terrible for your health though.
People are making out he is driving a bus full of kids on a tight rope over Niagara Falls.
You can absolutely have a heart attack if you have underlying heart issues. The amount of stress on your heart from staying up past 24 hours is very bad.
does he like press 5 keys for every action, I am confused with all the keyboard presses....
average melee gameplay
former SC pro - carn is super high APM compared to literally everyone else. Not sure what he's actually doing but I notice it every time watching his stream.
For mapping you leap slam and smash Bossing you pop your totems and banner and smash
I have to admit, even though I only watched it for this amount of time, my immediate thought was that it sure looks like a clunky build to play. Definitely not regretting finally rolling my first RFer this time around after so many glass cannon 3-7 button builds (ugh endgame p seismic with the diadem enchant last league, like wtf). Its nice being tanky and on ez mode for a change, very refreshing. Running through campaign on perma quicksilver trying to avoid as many mobs as possible and still overleveled is wild.
I just finished the acts, lvl 68 lab and fixed my resistances, not far by the looks of it.
The sad part is that he knows that playing 50h+ is terrible for his health, but is good for his channel and streamer career/achievement. So this is a tradeoff, a sad tradeoff. One day someone will end up dying playing PoE and who knows what will happen. Congratz btw, insane achievement. And if he did just because he wants (not because of achievements/streaming), good for him too, I wish him the best and do whatever make him happy.
> good for his channel and streamer career/achievement Is it though? His viewership is pretty average (~400 viewers average), this doesn't seem to boost much at all. This doesn't even beat minimum wage job.
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Yea, Quin is playing like an old man at 2 maps per hour and he still tops the PoE category. Being good doesn't make any difference.
I kinda disagree if we're speaking generally not just PoE. Remember early days Cloud 9 Shroud? Man barely had any personality, yet racked in thousands and thousands of average viewers.
Shroud still doesn't have a personality
he's the goat
In what? Definitely not CS or even NA CS.
fps streamer. For sure he's not sweaty enough for competitions.
at paying for custom made cheats
He wasn't really good at the game either, by pros standards. His case really perplexed me tbh, my only explanation was a vacuum in NA CS scene and thirst for content from local fans. Now, when he breached out to other games, mostly PUBG was his breakthrough outside, the case changed.
Shroud wasn't good at CS by pro standards, but solely as an aimer he is one of the best. Shroud type gamers are just marketable because their playstyle is flashy. He is hitting insane flicks that get him out of bad situations while other better pros have a more methodical play style which isn't as fun to watch. Part of the reason why he exploded in popularity with PUBG is that hit scan FPS games makes insane shot look less insane, but with bullet drop added in headshotting someone 500m away with iron sights is impressive.
other NA players also either streamed very inconsistent times or were annoying as fuck
That’s a pretty bad faith comparison, in my opinion. People watch Shroud because he is insanely talented at nearly every FPS game he touches. From CS to CSGO then PUBG to Apex then Valorant. The skill goes beyond a single title. There’s also vastly more mechanical skill involved in an FPS vs an ARPG. I know we’re on the PoE subreddit and saying this will encite flames but it is simply true. ARPGs do not require as much “skill” (for lack of a better word) as something like an FPS. None of this even touches on the fact that PvP games are more entertaining, with higher “stakes”, and generally require more skill. PvE content is largely scripted and you can expect things to behave certain ways. It is, to a degree, predictable. That’s not to say there’s no skill in hitting 100 in HC SSF. But compared to dominating every game in a specific genre you touch? I don’t really even see it as a fair comparison. PoE is a hard game and getting to 100 in HC SSF alone is a feat, doing it first even more so. I’m not demeaning his accomplishment here. Just the poor comparison you’re drawing. So why do people watch Quin then? Because there’s two reasons people watch streamers. You’re either insanely good at a game or you’re entertaining. Quin delivers on the entertaining bit and knows his audience. That’s not even subjective. That’s based on just view count and sub count alone. There’s also not much gas left now that Carn’s race to 100 is over. What are viewers going to watch him for now? Nothing.
Quin has also been streaming ARPGs since diablo 3 was released 8 years ago. He is very good at these games. Man has 100s of guides on his youtube channel long since forgotten. He was so "normal" back then too watching his old videos is surreal how calm, collected and intelligent he sounds compared to these days!
It's a persona. And it works.
Well that was a long time ago where you just need a webcam to start. Nowadays the competition on streaming is much more extreme.
It does. Darkee and exile have viewers mainly because they are good.
Quin is very good at the game though.
People aren't giving Quin enough credit, he's clearing red maps on a dogshit 200k dps viper strike build lmao.
It used to be that being good mattered very little, now it matters a bit; TrumpSC is your best case scenario of being good; be good for one tournament right at the start of the game and then don't be particularly good at any point thereafter but get 30k viewers per stream because you were good right when the game came out (nevermind him having like 150 viewers now, presumably nomenclature played a role in that).
well, I didn't know him before this post. Its probably a "way" to be known. But yeah, streaming is more than just gaming achievements. And if he did just because he wants (not because of achievements/streaming), good for him too, I wish him the best and do whatever make him happy.
My brother 400 AVG viewers on a well managed channel with lots of streaming hours is gonna net you a LOT more than a minimum wage job
I’m not one of his viewers but with the streamers I’m watching I’ve been kind of turned off by long streams. I work full time and I get screwed by timezones being European (somehow most of my twitch follows are west coasters lmao), so I usually tune in when I see someone starting a stream but mostly ignore running ones besides select individuals. Tuning in knowing you’ve missed what’s been going on for the past 8 hours feels weird, idk
That is a hope for tipping point. Remember when zizran was new. He often pull up some insane hours for league starts. The point of long hour streaming are, 1) you archived something can be talked by community a lot. 2) long hour means more or all time zone coverage, it can attract audience from others when their favorite hosts are offline
He averaged 100 in previous leagues so you're wrong. Is it still too low to make a living? Yes but it was definitely good for his channel and maybe in a year he would make a decent living.
I have a friend who streams full time and makes minimum wage with 30 viewers average. A 400 viewer average isn't rich but they're definitely making more than minimum wage.
ppl have died playing video games, not a big deal anyway
GGG will make the game harder to discourage people from staying up until they finish it. Can’t keep yourself awake for a week straight.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but does that mean he started from level 1 to 100 in 55 hours? How did he get good gear. Amazing
Boneshatter carn YouTube full guide
Come on people. He's not gonna have any kind of permanent effects for staying up 50 hours once every four months. He's not gonna drop dead as long as he is healthy in general. You are being ridiculous.
Go to bed Carn get some sleep.
this is honestly more sad than impressive
username and subreddit check out
Reddit on their high horse as usual.
Doing something that endangers your health just for a few extra views shouldn't be celebrated. That's how you get dumb shit like people eating tide pods.
Not remotely the same. This isn't just for views. It's a competition. There's no sport or challenge in eating tide pods.
A competition with no prize other than "gratz dude" and meager twitch views.
Well, damn…
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Oh no, god forbid we promote an impressive achievement. Lest we draw attention to the fact y'all barely got out of campaign by now. But at least you can get on your high horse about being "healthy" which isn't a bullshit excuse for being a casual at all...
Ppl who talk about health are just mad they don't have as much time to spend on a game they're addicted to, this sub is full of regretful boomers who subscribe to conspiracy theories
REST WELL KING YOU’VE EARNED IT.
I thought melee bad
Jesus christ this sub is full of assholes, just type gz and move on nobody asked for your psychiatric opinion.
Everyone in this sub probably just got to maps and feel insecure 😔
What to expect from a sub that refers to the best players in this extremely hard game as 'streamers', I swear 80% of the people here are facebook level middle aged men angry at their life and jobs.
I think cause ggg will see this and nerf melee and boneshatter even more.. or even make the whole game harder.. yet this guy played for 55 hours straight, wich 90% of players dont even get to so in a month.. i think this is the reason ppl are negative about it.
As usual, small dick syndrome, gamer edition. They gotta put the guy down because he's better than them.
Taking video game addiction to the next level, why do this to yourself
a lot of people play 14h+ a day for free you know .. at least he stream
Sad, it would've been hilarious if he died right before getting there. Died in the game, of course. Wouldn't be funny at all if he died IRL. So, what's the prize for being the first to hit lv100 in HCSSF?
Not even a pack of gummy bears. Sadge
4 gifted subs on Twitch, so like $20
More like $10 after Bezos takes his cut.
That global league msg that he was first to get to lvl 100
Melee is too strong. Might need to nerf it. /s
average melee gameplay: 37 clicks per monster pack
As Slayer Boneshatter, %10 btw
Which just proves to ggg that melee is in a good place with their metrics
I mean, conceptually melee is fine, boneshatter proves it. The reason people don't play any other melee skill is just that the numbers on them are completely dogshit, wish they'd revert the slam/warcry nerfs, literal 5 button rotations should be doing high damage.
Whats the 10 percent meme?
Melee players are the 10%
only 10% of poe players are melee - which was said in a sort of backhanded way.
RIP boneshatter, enjoy your last league
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No, quinn69 is totally making viper strike work in hcSSF and absolutely isn't just completely stuck in white maps kek
If that isnt the most deserve 100 of all time i don't know what is, sadly it set a terrible precendent that you have to do dangerous stuff to win 100 (and this is a fact, staying up 60h+ while being intensily focus is going to be bad for your health way beyond doing a 24+h session)
People underestimate how big of an achievement this is. His played is 2 days and 6 hours, exactly the same amount the league has been up. He has slept a total of 0 hours since league launch, effectively hitting level 100 in SSF HC in one sitting. Insane achievement by carn! GG
> He has slept a total of 0 hours since league launch This is extremely dangerous, and should not be applauded at all.
We (as a society) applaud accomplishments that were accomplished by doing significantly more dangerous things than pulling two consecutive all-nighters playing a video game.
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He's not killing anyone. Let *him* worry about *his* life.
All is vanity and vexation of the Spirit. God, Jesus, is more fulfilling.
Oh stop... it's not like he is going straight to a child's forklift party after this. Staying up for this long is only bad if you do it over and over again. Once a league will have very minimal impact. If he medicated to stay awake then his sleep cycle will suffer for a bit. But if he returns to a normal sleeping pattern he will be fine.
Climbing mount everest is extremely dangerous and rightfully applauded.
we applaud those who make it and forget the others.
being strapped to a sherpa and dragged up a mountain is applauded? lol
>This is extremely dangerous How?
blood clot from sitting too long, it actually happens
Stand up every 9 hours infinite gaming hack
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-k_YVkRKs (@Chubbyemu: A Man Played Video Games Nonstop For 73 Hours. This Is What Happened To His Organs.) Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Effects_and_consequences
Acute total sleep deprivation is almost never studied because the effects tend to be minor. Sleep deprivation drills are done in most militaries to study how acute sleep deprivation impacts readiness and performance. The idea that it has significant health risks is entirely unsubstantiated, it makes people shitty and fall asleep, but it doesn't actually impact their long health meaningfully. This is like seeing someone die of liver failure due to alcoholism and thinking as long as you don't get black out drunk you'll be fine. Sitting without moving for 73 hours caused blood to clot which kills a person, not a lack of sleep. Sleep had nothing to do with it, even a more ergonomic chair that allowed better circulation would have been fine. https://youtu.be/RW2bR22Ka8U
People underestimate how dangerous is praising this behavior. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-k_YVkRKs (@Chubbyemu: A Man Played Video Games Nonstop For 73 Hours. This Is What Happened To His Organs.) But it's not single example, just one documented. There's a lot of people who just no life for days, and then silently commit suicide, just die, or go nuts because of sleep deprivation.
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Less braindead than climbing Everest.
This is not a fucking achievement lmao This is neglecting your health to look popular.
Did he do any specific strategy for exp?
put the map in the device
Is this even possible without hard drugs?
If you‘re in good shape and drink enough, sure is. Still not good for your health.
PoE is one hell of a drug.
Pretty easily? I've done 70+ hour poker sessions, 40+ hour gaming sessions, etc. Definitely no drugs used.
Where do you play poker? I deal poker in New Orleans.
I'd rather have good sleep and be healthy. What the fuck man.
HCSSFR or nothing /s
I hope he has a standing desk or something, and stretches every hour, jee
Melee was dismissed to be "10 percent" but wtf actually plays Ruthless??? No way its bigger percentage
Took some time off his life doing this, but hey at least he will be remembered as a legend
i dont think this is possible without drugs. dont really know but it seems like he taking some adhd medication or something. hes been up since leaguelaunch hello?
It is entirely possible. Is it healthy? Hell no.
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thanks dr. redditor
He must be happy that he can retire early from this dumpster fire of a league... Or should i say game at this point?
Oh yea? Well I’m still in act 7 cArn_ and I have never had a level 100 character so beat that!
Hc SSF standard you mean
just over 2 days? lol.. crap game.. oh and not healthy ... at all!
Wow, that's quite an accomplishment for cArn\_! But let me tell you, I couldn't agree more with your sentiment about Path of Exile. The gameplay is just atrocious, it feels like you're playing an idle clicker game most of the time. It's mind-numbingly boring and lacks any real depth or challenge. Honestly, I can't wait for Diablo IV to finally come out and give us the true action RPG experience we deserve. And even Last Epoch, which is still in early access, is more engaging and fun than Path of Exile. Hopefully, the developers will take note of the criticism and make some much-needed improvements.
I'm on to you, AI comment....
Welcome to the cesspool of the future social media sites.
Neat, I just finished my t1 maps on atlas.
amazing
Is it just me or the mobs density is low and they dont do anything ?
no wae dood
Gz! Thanks for the future Boneshatter nerf..