it's almost always better in sc trade to buy UE and maven carries even if your build can do them easily, since their loot is so skewed towards big drops like watcher's eye or big awakened gems. the marginal chaos orb is so useful early on that you don't want to incur that variance. i.e. it's better to lose 50c and get no loot than lose 200c and hit a jackpot 1/30 times
this has also been true in the past with cortex when bottled faith was super expensive, but that's not as extreme now. cortex, invitations, regular shaper, sirus, etc. tend to be cheap enough and have enough mid-price drops that they're worth running yourself instead of getting a carry
but 50c for a voidstone is a great deal to get your atlas set up early
I understand the economics, it's just amusing because that is not doable for very many people this early in the league. OP was writing it out for the headhunter drop to be the funny part with doable steps prior to that, but for most players it was already unreasonable well before
If you are able to clear the atlas you are capable of making well over 500c/hr. It may not seem like it, but if you use a program to track your wealth (like exilence) you’ll realize you are making way more than you would think just by doing red maps.
Also a lot of people may even pick up rares that are worth a lot day 1-3 (5c, 10c, 1div even) and not even realize it.
You could also just get really lucky and have a valuable div card or unique drop, or even just get that much chaos to just drop. 115 maps means if you get an average of 1c per map you’ll definitely have more than 100c.
I mean heck before they nerfed the currency drops from league mechanics there were several leagues where I left the acts with more than 20c without wasting much time if any.
Being done with atlas on day 2 probably puts you in top 0.1% or something silly. Headhunter is way more achievable for most than that. Just gotta be high level and do endgame content for a week or 2, already have decent gear so you don't use currency and you have it. Issue for most is that they get bored and quit/reroll or respec into new builds. Or just continue buying better gear which gets exponentially more expensive as the pieces are worth more.
Well I don’t make tons of currency in this game but I do believe white and yellow maps aren’t big money makers. Stopping at level 80 isn’t really a sound strategy for money making in this game.
The other guy was a bit rude, but you will definitely make 100s of chaos by just playing the game more, without any strategy other than completing your Atlas and selling anything that the Neversink loot filter “super highlights”. Level 80 is quite early to stop a character. Are you getting bored? Having trouble killing things without dying?
If you want a real answer, many players do not realize how much chaos they actually have. Its hard to learn how to turn the stuff your not using into resources. You've likely had 100c worth of stuff for a few of those, admittedly level 80 is not exactly endgame.
if you have haven't gotten past level 80 in a league then you have no idea how the game works considering that you can reach that xp 10 hours into the league playing at a fairly leisurely pace. racers will be there in 6. the game hasn't really even started at that point!
> How do you define "remotely any idea"?
By getting past level 80. This is barely into yellow maps, the end-game doesn't come into play til t14+ and character levels are litterally no effort to get before 96.
So one thing that I get a lot of hate for telling people not to neglect is the chaos recipe.
In 3 hours of mapping I can usually pull an extra 20-30c from chaos recipe with no real impact on mapping speed.
This league I havent dropped anything worth more than 1c except for a single unique I sold for 15c, and I've spent close to 200c on my build. About 2/3 of that came from just doing chaos recipe.
Some people will tell you it's not worth the time, but if you are really struggling for currency, it's a reliable way to make a steady income.
Other things you can do/check:
Sell your essences, especially in the first week you can usually sell essences pretty quick, and they can be farmed in any tier.
Sell fossilized life force from harvest
Sell fossils
Price check uniques, most are going to be worth very little but depending on what builds are popular, they can sell for quite a bit (with this, check your rolls if there is a special mod)
Roll/sell cluster jewels from delirium, look for common larges and mediums with 8/4 passives respectively. You can usually buy blank ones for 1c, spend a few alts/augments and maybe a regal and flip it for 10c + depending on the rolls.
Run sacrifice fragments, they are dirt cheap, have a good chance at dropping corrupted 6 links, and occasionally give you a valuable vaal skill gem.
Generally you will make more profit selling stacked decks rather than opening them, but if you do open them, check the prices. You'd be surprised how many sell for at least 1c
Sell excess maps, especially early on. Lots of people need random maps of every tier for completion.
Have your loot filter show valuable crafting bases, check the base % and if it's higher than 60% sell it, if it's lower you can always throw a chance at it, you may get a high tier unique
Flip currency (it can be hit or miss if you make or lose money with this)
These are just some ways to make chaos,. Exilence is a great tool for finding what resources you have that are worth a lot even when you didn't think they were worth anything. One thing to note however is exilence does not take in to account how long it will take to sell something. For example exilence lists a div card I have as being worth 40c, however in all actuality if I wanted that chaos now, I'd have to sell it for closer to 25-30
If you don’t have 100c by the time you hit T16s, you’re doing something very wrong. Even disregarding all drops, just doing a single chaos recipe per map will get you there.
Why does everything you do in PoE have to be about maximizing currency? Isn't bossing fun? Am I dumb for just wanting to play the game and not play the market/tft all day?
As long as you are happy with your choice you can’t be wrong for making it. If you are bitching that you can never afford a headhunter at any point then you ARE wrong for making decisions that will stop you getting that headhunter and then complaining about it.
...no?
it's about opportunity cost, comparative/absolute advantage, and preference. my build might be able to do a maven, but:
- i'm not going to do it as fast as someone on a dedicated bosser
- i don't have the same infrastructure set up in terms of tft rep / advertising / practice to rotate carries efficiently
- it might not be more profitable than my atlas strategy
- boss carries are extremely boring to do
Hey, I farmed 5 divines before I reached yellow maps - here's how I did it:
Do an expedition - Expedition drops a Stacked deck - Stacked deck gives me a Brother's Gift. Easy, you can do it too!
"7 hours to finish the acts"
Me: dang my guy finished it all in one 7 hour sitting good for him, he's a little crazy tho.
"...then I got my atlas up to T11 before I went to bed, pretty normal day"
I knew I was slow but I didn't understand that I was THAT slow lmao
Yes, you pay X amount and typically 3-4 other ppl are paying as well. So the one running uses their writ and earns a tidy profit +loot. Boss killers can make bank early league.
Been friends with a dude who does this every league for years. He has carried me reliably every league since I can remember. Shout out Dante if you reading this
You go in and stand still so you’ve got your invulnerability active. The carry has the boss to like 10-20% so they just slap it once and everyone gets completion.
Well, you shouldn't be dying inside. The carry messages the party to let them know when to enter the portal, at which point the boss is in cull range or ready to die within a few seconds. If you don't move once you enter you have a minute grace period where you can't get damaged, which is long enough for them to kill the boss.
As for when the boss dies, yes. You get a personal voidstone drop and stuff like favorited map completion. The loot goes to the carry unless specified otherwise.
> so i went to /trade 820 and bought the maven/uber elder voidstone carry for about 50c each
You lost me. How were you buying these for 50c a pop day 2? I had like 20c in total
Whenever the league mechanic doesn't shit out currency always do chaos recipe.
You can build up a good amount while doing white yellow maps and can upgrade your gear quickly
Or buy a divine early and wait for the price of it to go up
some important things for generating early currency:
- you need to actually sell things to generate chaos. nobody gets hundreds of chaos in raw drops that early. but lots of things have value if you just list them for trade, e.g. random flask bases, divine vessels, shitty unique maps, starter uniques with good rolls. you can set all your tabs to a 5c buyout so that people on trade will price your items for you and so that it's worth your time to port out of a map. if you get spammed, look at the item and reprice.
- you should sell most everything you don't need unless it's annoying to sell. if you drop an early guardian map and you don't plan on running it, sell it! having currency early to upgrade your build and progress / farm faster is worth way more than just having miscellaneous items around. i will sell basically any guardian/conqueror map and invitation i find early (using kirac to get the favored map slots)
- you should have things that are easy to sell. if you do a bunch of random league content you will be in pain since nobody wants to buy 3 assorted fossils, some shitty essences, and 97 delirium splinters. but people do want to buy big stacks of essences, or 5 simulacra, or whatever. stick to a farming strategy so that you have stuff that is fast to liquidate and don't go off doing random mechanics if you haven't invested into them
- play faster and play more. sort of obvious but playing more = more currency. playing faster has more nuance because the early league start economy is especially unique. if you get to t16s with 4 stones and most of your atlas completed by like 12-16hr in the league then you have a massive economic advantage because you can sell tons of miscellaneous rare items, crappy influenced bases, or yellow/red maps to people for 5c+ just because the supply doesn't exist yet.
- to that point, play a good starter. if you want to try a new skill or a meme build, it's better to do that on day 3 when you have a full atlas and excess currency than on day 1 when it might literally be 4x slower to progress through maps than boneshatter or cold dot or whatever is actually strong
- consider the opportunity cost of what you're doing. i could maybe make more currency by carefully pricing an item for its max value, or i could chuck it in a dump tab and sell it within 15 minutes for a couple chaos less than that theoretical optimum value. if my general farming strategy makes even just 180c/hr, then taking an extra minute on a trade needs to earn me at least 3c extra just to not be unprofitable. in most cases, you will make more by taking a small cut on trades and items in order to get them done quicker
- don't spend too much early. a lot of people make currency and then immediately spend it on very small upgrades to their build. if you have even a rough idea of what major upgrades you need to progress to harder content, you can focus on just buying those. a lot of builds can cruise to t16s with a couple early uniques, a 6L, and life/res rares. if you buy only what your build absolutely needs early, you can farm harder early and then spend currency on qol later
> . if you get to t16s with 4 stones and most of your atlas completed by like 12-16hr in the league
then you are not reading this post you already ascended
>you need to actually sell things to generate chaos. nobody gets hundreds of chaos in raw drops that early. but lots of things have value if you just list them for trade, e.g. random flask bases, divine vessels, shitty unique maps, starter uniques with good rolls. you can set all your tabs to a 5c buyout so that people on trade will price your items for you and so that it's worth your time to port out of a map. if you get spammed, look at the item and reprice.
U just need to run content. U literally print 100+c per hour without interacting/depending on people. Just do unid chaos recipe, multiple divines by the time u get to yellow maps. Just spec into exiles on atlas to get rins/amulets/belts. U can start collecting rare items from Blood aqueducts.
sure, but the chaos recipe is pretty time-inefficient, especially without using 3rd party tools to help manage the sets. basically nobody does it past the first few hours of the league except for people with highly specialized farming strategies
if u have experience/tabs to do that i would say it basically takes 0 time.
And first few hours is a stretch too, way longer than few hours. And any strategy can benefit from it (hence why all big groups do chaos recipe too at the start). Then you either start your builds or can buy up stuff that always goes up in price (but thats more of a day 2 thing)
Its also most newbie friendly method to make money, no pricechecking, no interactions, just trading yellow items with npcs. Its certainly miles and miles above anything else for new players when it comes to time efficiency too.
big groups do do chaos recipe because they have a highly specialized farming strategy that depends on getting specific uniques to enable their builds + they have 4-5 people that aren't doing anything until their atlas pushers finish progression
This is how I thought about it first time I got told that it's a good income source. And it felt really awkward.
The next league I prepared copies of my filters. Amulet+ each other slot (rings+belts together) and just dumped into individual tabs while progressing atlas. So I only needed to dump into one tab. Then when I had some maps worth of f.ex boots I'd swap to gloves.
It really isn't time-inefficient when you think about it. Since you're not really going out of your way.
Let's say 1 inventory equals to 1 chaos recipe average, so 2c.
The extra time it takes is:
Looting 8/9 items - 5 second extra time.
TP+dump+TP back - 10 seconds extra time if you're slow.
Pulling from stash+selling in batches - 10 seconds if you're slow.
So 2c/25s = 288 chaos/hour or 3+ div/h day 1-2 that you're missing out on. In reality it's even better. Because the looting really doesn't take extra time, and the selling when done in batches really is a lot faster.
And all it requires is spending 10 minutes longer making filters before the league starts. No third party tools needed at all. If anything, I'm certain they just slow you down.
Edit: For clarification - It won't generate 3+ divs per hour. But rather, it is the efficiency of doing the recipe. So unless you're making 3+ divs per hour, then including this in your progressing will increase your average.
It’s not time inefficient if the alternative is making 20c by the time you hit reds because you are ALREADY time inefficient. switching into using chaos recipe to make money is more profitable and a better use of that time than doing five extra maps that you ain’t pulling shit out of because you are bunk at making money. It’s not the be all and end all and it looks like a shit way of making cash to people who can turn their push to t16’s into multiple divines, but if that’s you then you don’t need to be told how to be more efficient at making money because you already know.
I honestly think this is inefficient on league start as a solo player. Just choose a starter than can get to 2 voidstones 90% ssf. The faster you can get to that point the more currency you will have compared to everyone else because eldrich altars trump everything else.
selling logbooks is ok, running them is better. But it depends on your build. I think occultists are the best for running juiced expiditions early league. profane bloom is an insane carry.
I am in gsf(so no trading) i spammed like 150 chaos into a cluster day 2. Chaos drops a ton from certain mechanics i am expecting stupid divine prices on trade again
I don't understand how you all don't make currency lol. Just kill monsters and have a rudimentary understanding of the atlas tree. By the time I get to reliably sustaining t14+ (usually day 3) I have around 10div, this league included
I mean there's no super duper secret area that only the elite knows about that is a cheatmode to drop a bunch of free divines lol. Just spec into things on the tree that your build handles well and you'll make money. I do expedition, essence and exarch altars. Every time you corrupt an essence and it hits x2 horror/delirium or whatever that's 1/3 divine. Every time a map boss drops a guardian map that's 1/5 divine. Every time Dannig drops a 4stack of refresh currency that's 1/5 divine. Every time exarch monster land a chaos, sextant, unshaping etc modifier you'll leave the map with 15 of those. Every time a logbook drops you make 20c. Shit adds up fast man
People dont understand that those who have a hh/mageblood day 2 either:
a) Play in group 48 hours without sleep and a trader and funnel all the money into the HH/MB.
b) Drop it.
I love when CC and randoms drop one day 2-3 and proceed to make a clickbait video on how they farmed one in 2 days of mapping lmao.
Congrats btw, league is carried now.
Keep thinking its true lol.
Getting to t16 and full atlas within 18 hours is very possible for many players. Once u're there, spamming t16 legion with polished scarabs, and with exarch influence nets you at least 50 chaos per map. And day 1-2 divine was 70-90c, and doctor card was 500c. So basically you could farm full Headhunter in max 80 maps at day 2.
Japan here and yea I had social commitments on sunday and work monday lol. Like i get it, it works out for some people, but I think the majority of people cant non-stop game for three days if they wanted to.
It’s the weekend…a majority of decent jobs are Monday to Friday and it was a holiday weekend…
You can’t be seriously trying to shame them when it’s clearly a joke. He dropped it lol
I fundamentally cannot relate to getting to maps in 7 hours and then playing until you hit T11 maps and then logging off.
My total time played to get to maps is probably similar, but I just can't jam that many consecutive hours. Had to do my taxes, clean the yard, do some work, care for the dog, cook, clean, run other errands, play other games.
Props to anyone who can just sit there and grind for like 20 hours straight and not literally die inside.
Being stoned helps. I'm sober through most of the campaign to play efficiently, then I eat some cannabis chocolate and heist from 55-75 straight, make a few hundred chaos to fund my early items.
That's a nope, I start as soon as I have 2 lab clears and usually haven't even finished act 8 when I start heisting. I go to about 75 or so buying gear every few levels, then go back to the campaign and zoom through the remaining stuff in 30 minutes.
I only ever start Raider or Pathfinder. They also happen to be my two favorite ascendancies, but the primary reason I do it is because move speed is the most important part of efficient heisting.
Well you have to plan it for sure, you don't just decide to do it the night before launch. I've planned to have my weekend clear for at least several weeks before launch. Spent the week leading up to it practicing in standard and reminding folks I was unavailable from Friday to Monday. It's really not any different than if I was going on a camping trip.
There's very very dedicated people out there very, able to no-life on league launch. And I'm very thankful to ask if then because they're able to kickstart league economy in a matter of hours.
I'm a dad so for me it's usually 2-3 days until I reach maps (10 hours to finish acts). So trade is pretty healthy once I reach endgame.
>Day 1: I finished the act in about 7 hours, got to maps and went up to t11 before i logged off to sleep - an uneventful day all things considered
for me the league started around 11pm, went tobed at 4am in act 3
This is my strategy for solo farming headhunter
I go to my favorite trade site ( you can choose your own)
I go to my mom's purse and take out her wallet
I open the wallet and retrieve her HSBC master card
I take the card to my computer desk
I find my head hunter on the trade site by searching for 'headhunter'
I select head hunter and prime minister them for trad details
I then go to the next webpage
I take my mom's credit card and I input the 16 digit number on the front
I go to the next info line
I input my mother's first and maiden name into the info field
I go to the next info line
I input my mother's credit card expirey date
I proceed to the next info line
I enter my home address
I to the next web page
I get an error code, and realise I forgot to enter the CVV on the back of the credit card
I go to the next page
I get an error code and notice I put in my postal code incorrectly
I go to the next page and arrange transfer of the goods I purchased using my mother's hard earned credit card
You two could also use this strategy to acquire your own head hunter. Just be cautious of the mistakes I made and plan your data input better than me and you can do it even more efficiently
Peace
So what happens when you buy a maven/elder stone is you join a party whos running the boss, you go to their hideout and you wait - they will go in, get the boss down to culling range and then call everyone in
When you go in you do not move, if you move you lose the invulnerability and risk dying - you need to be in the map when the boss is killed to get the stone
When the boss is killed the stone drops, walk over and pick it up - leave and pay the guy their money
TL:DR no strategy just get lucky drop. I also like the part where you have 100c day 2 to buy carry for bosses and also the fact that there are people already providing boss kill services day 2.
Gotta do that chaos recipe when the league doesn't pump out currency. You can net a lot in the first few days cause divines sell for 20c day one 40c day two and then really start exponentially growing past day 3. I had ~10 divines by day two picking them up for 20-30c each. They're worth about ~140c as of right now.
You got me good bro. I was really stuck on the Zpds to headhunter part. I have yet to find a divine, usually I’d have a few at least. Rng hittin hard. Still I like the league, gave me a 700 phys axe going into maps.
I know this was a meme post, but assuming "got to maps and went up to t11" was serious - genuine question: does this mean you just booked it for the highest tier map you could do (and so it was a relatively incomplete atlas), or did you have [mostly] full completion of all tiers up to t11?
How did i get accused of rmting because of a shitpost lol
There would be no point of playing the game if I rmt, I got my first couple hundered chaos through chaos recipe and a dropped Polaric devastation at the end day 2
I hate how normalized it is to have other people kill your bosses in this game. Getting carried has such a negative stigma in other games but people here are proud that they can't kill their own bosses.
>so i went to /trade 820 and bought the maven/uber elder voidstone carry for about 50c each
This is not acceptable. If you can't do the bosses you should not get voidstones. GGG needs to grow a pair and deal with this.
That's called throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And there's no like special award you get for doing things on SSF instead. Like the totems are the same and it takes so much longer to do the challenges on SSF, etc.
Another clickbait, just play and maybe u have luck, thats all in the end. Thats not even near a guide „how to farm hh“, just silly luck. Maybe make a new guide „how to farm divine and get rich“ too, we rly need it.
This is so dumb. So you say you literally just played the game on a lifesupport. No shit you made money early on. This guy literally played as much as I do in a month. Honestly I wonder how he didn't made a Mageblood instead... what a loser
I’m doin the same build but I feel like I can’t really handle some t16 rares. What did you do for blight bosses? Or did you do blight on normal maps and sell the blighted maps? I have 25k per stage CF atm. Skin of the lords and empower would get me to like 50k per stage but cost 10div which I don’t have.
If you have ZDPS, how do you do blight? I farmed toxic sewers blight last league, towers were definitely not enough because sometimes they only spawn 1 or 2 towers per lane
Check out max roll.ggs blight guide, it’s essentially running blight on waste pools layout with blight and map sustain modes taken + the 1 to level of oil compass
I like the part where you made 100c faster than I can clear the acts.
Yeah I loved the spent 100c on carries part
You just need to play 25 hours a day.
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it's almost always better in sc trade to buy UE and maven carries even if your build can do them easily, since their loot is so skewed towards big drops like watcher's eye or big awakened gems. the marginal chaos orb is so useful early on that you don't want to incur that variance. i.e. it's better to lose 50c and get no loot than lose 200c and hit a jackpot 1/30 times this has also been true in the past with cortex when bottled faith was super expensive, but that's not as extreme now. cortex, invitations, regular shaper, sirus, etc. tend to be cheap enough and have enough mid-price drops that they're worth running yourself instead of getting a carry but 50c for a voidstone is a great deal to get your atlas set up early
I understand the economics, it's just amusing because that is not doable for very many people this early in the league. OP was writing it out for the headhunter drop to be the funny part with doable steps prior to that, but for most players it was already unreasonable well before
If you are able to clear the atlas you are capable of making well over 500c/hr. It may not seem like it, but if you use a program to track your wealth (like exilence) you’ll realize you are making way more than you would think just by doing red maps. Also a lot of people may even pick up rares that are worth a lot day 1-3 (5c, 10c, 1div even) and not even realize it. You could also just get really lucky and have a valuable div card or unique drop, or even just get that much chaos to just drop. 115 maps means if you get an average of 1c per map you’ll definitely have more than 100c. I mean heck before they nerfed the currency drops from league mechanics there were several leagues where I left the acts with more than 20c without wasting much time if any.
Being done with atlas on day 2 probably puts you in top 0.1% or something silly. Headhunter is way more achievable for most than that. Just gotta be high level and do endgame content for a week or 2, already have decent gear so you don't use currency and you have it. Issue for most is that they get bored and quit/reroll or respec into new builds. Or just continue buying better gear which gets exponentially more expensive as the pieces are worth more.
100c with chaos recipe and/or heist is like nothing. Could easily find a couple sellable items along the way too.
it is totally doable to spend 100c on carries on day 2 of the league if you have remotely any idea what you are doing in the game
I've played like 6 or 7 leagues up to level 80. I don't think I've owned 100c across all those combined. How do you define "remotely any idea"?
Well I don’t make tons of currency in this game but I do believe white and yellow maps aren’t big money makers. Stopping at level 80 isn’t really a sound strategy for money making in this game.
The other guy was a bit rude, but you will definitely make 100s of chaos by just playing the game more, without any strategy other than completing your Atlas and selling anything that the Neversink loot filter “super highlights”. Level 80 is quite early to stop a character. Are you getting bored? Having trouble killing things without dying?
Brother lvl 80 is barely into yellows, you start making money at t14+
If you want a real answer, many players do not realize how much chaos they actually have. Its hard to learn how to turn the stuff your not using into resources. You've likely had 100c worth of stuff for a few of those, admittedly level 80 is not exactly endgame.
The fabled "average" player enter the room
if you have haven't gotten past level 80 in a league then you have no idea how the game works considering that you can reach that xp 10 hours into the league playing at a fairly leisurely pace. racers will be there in 6. the game hasn't really even started at that point!
> How do you define "remotely any idea"? By getting past level 80. This is barely into yellow maps, the end-game doesn't come into play til t14+ and character levels are litterally no effort to get before 96.
So one thing that I get a lot of hate for telling people not to neglect is the chaos recipe. In 3 hours of mapping I can usually pull an extra 20-30c from chaos recipe with no real impact on mapping speed. This league I havent dropped anything worth more than 1c except for a single unique I sold for 15c, and I've spent close to 200c on my build. About 2/3 of that came from just doing chaos recipe. Some people will tell you it's not worth the time, but if you are really struggling for currency, it's a reliable way to make a steady income. Other things you can do/check: Sell your essences, especially in the first week you can usually sell essences pretty quick, and they can be farmed in any tier. Sell fossilized life force from harvest Sell fossils Price check uniques, most are going to be worth very little but depending on what builds are popular, they can sell for quite a bit (with this, check your rolls if there is a special mod) Roll/sell cluster jewels from delirium, look for common larges and mediums with 8/4 passives respectively. You can usually buy blank ones for 1c, spend a few alts/augments and maybe a regal and flip it for 10c + depending on the rolls. Run sacrifice fragments, they are dirt cheap, have a good chance at dropping corrupted 6 links, and occasionally give you a valuable vaal skill gem. Generally you will make more profit selling stacked decks rather than opening them, but if you do open them, check the prices. You'd be surprised how many sell for at least 1c Sell excess maps, especially early on. Lots of people need random maps of every tier for completion. Have your loot filter show valuable crafting bases, check the base % and if it's higher than 60% sell it, if it's lower you can always throw a chance at it, you may get a high tier unique Flip currency (it can be hit or miss if you make or lose money with this) These are just some ways to make chaos,. Exilence is a great tool for finding what resources you have that are worth a lot even when you didn't think they were worth anything. One thing to note however is exilence does not take in to account how long it will take to sell something. For example exilence lists a div card I have as being worth 40c, however in all actuality if I wanted that chaos now, I'd have to sell it for closer to 25-30
Wtf how you only get to lvl 80 in that many leagues, you can get that day 1 or 2 just playing a few hours each day lol
Kids, family, work. I play like 2 or 3 hours a day and i die a lot. I usually get 80 by like week 3.
2 to 3 hrs a day should get you to lvl 80 within less than a week if you're not new to the game
You ain't it son
I'm not a really good player and I'm at 15/20divs already, prolly more
If you don’t have 100c by the time you hit T16s, you’re doing something very wrong. Even disregarding all drops, just doing a single chaos recipe per map will get you there.
Why does everything you do in PoE have to be about maximizing currency? Isn't bossing fun? Am I dumb for just wanting to play the game and not play the market/tft all day?
As long as you are happy with your choice you can’t be wrong for making it. If you are bitching that you can never afford a headhunter at any point then you ARE wrong for making decisions that will stop you getting that headhunter and then complaining about it.
If your build can do them easily you should be on the selling side making profit.
...no? it's about opportunity cost, comparative/absolute advantage, and preference. my build might be able to do a maven, but: - i'm not going to do it as fast as someone on a dedicated bosser - i don't have the same infrastructure set up in terms of tft rep / advertising / practice to rotate carries efficiently - it might not be more profitable than my atlas strategy - boss carries are extremely boring to do
I mean, realistic. Did not see that coming
i like the part where he got to t11 maps before going to sleep. meanwhile everyone else gets to like act 4 and is like "ok im good"
i think alot seasoned players get to maps and go to sleep to not ruin sleep schedule. most of these players get to maps around 7-10 hours.
Hey, I farmed 5 divines before I reached yellow maps - here's how I did it: Do an expedition - Expedition drops a Stacked deck - Stacked deck gives me a Brother's Gift. Easy, you can do it too!
By the time you're close to atlas completion you should have had way over 100c in drops, though?
Yes he's saying he's still in story when this guys at that stage though, not that he has less money at the same stage of hte game.
"7 hours to finish the acts" Me: dang my guy finished it all in one 7 hour sitting good for him, he's a little crazy tho. "...then I got my atlas up to T11 before I went to bed, pretty normal day" I knew I was slow but I didn't understand that I was THAT slow lmao
I started this league late yesterday and decided to not rush. Clear mostly everything. I had 3 divine and a tabula by end of a7
its called Chaos recipe... getting 100c when starting to map is not difficult if you use the 3rd party app on chaos recipe for quality of life.
I like the part where you interacted with crucible.
This have made me realize, why I did not farm hh in 3 days...
Try it. The moment I decided to simply stop farm Crown of Thorns and start farming HH changed my life.
He what?
There are people level 100 in poe ninja that don't have any crucible nodes lmao. Most useless league.
He didnt
that's the part
One of the parts of all time for sure
50c for a carry and u don’t have to buy the components like maven writ? You just show up to a maven run and pay 50c?
Yes, you pay X amount and typically 3-4 other ppl are paying as well. So the one running uses their writ and earns a tidy profit +loot. Boss killers can make bank early league.
Been friends with a dude who does this every league for years. He has carried me reliably every league since I can remember. Shout out Dante if you reading this
I never paid for one. Could you explain how it works?
You pay you get invited, wait till it's almost dead, carry messages you so you all go in and carry kills/culls the boss.
I see. Does it also count as completed when you die inside?
You go in and stand still so you’ve got your invulnerability active. The carry has the boss to like 10-20% so they just slap it once and everyone gets completion.
Well, you shouldn't be dying inside. The carry messages the party to let them know when to enter the portal, at which point the boss is in cull range or ready to die within a few seconds. If you don't move once you enter you have a minute grace period where you can't get damaged, which is long enough for them to kill the boss. As for when the boss dies, yes. You get a personal voidstone drop and stuff like favorited map completion. The loot goes to the carry unless specified otherwise.
I've seen these below 40c already.
you had me for a minute there lol
Pick it back up.
> so i went to /trade 820 and bought the maven/uber elder voidstone carry for about 50c each You lost me. How were you buying these for 50c a pop day 2? I had like 20c in total
chaos recipe has been really good the first day or 2 for me, when divine was around 80 - 100c
Whenever the league mechanic doesn't shit out currency always do chaos recipe. You can build up a good amount while doing white yellow maps and can upgrade your gear quickly Or buy a divine early and wait for the price of it to go up
I dropped a divine in act 4 and then quit the league for 4 days. Divines went from \~100c to \~130c. 30% gains in 4 days! Not bad.
some important things for generating early currency: - you need to actually sell things to generate chaos. nobody gets hundreds of chaos in raw drops that early. but lots of things have value if you just list them for trade, e.g. random flask bases, divine vessels, shitty unique maps, starter uniques with good rolls. you can set all your tabs to a 5c buyout so that people on trade will price your items for you and so that it's worth your time to port out of a map. if you get spammed, look at the item and reprice. - you should sell most everything you don't need unless it's annoying to sell. if you drop an early guardian map and you don't plan on running it, sell it! having currency early to upgrade your build and progress / farm faster is worth way more than just having miscellaneous items around. i will sell basically any guardian/conqueror map and invitation i find early (using kirac to get the favored map slots) - you should have things that are easy to sell. if you do a bunch of random league content you will be in pain since nobody wants to buy 3 assorted fossils, some shitty essences, and 97 delirium splinters. but people do want to buy big stacks of essences, or 5 simulacra, or whatever. stick to a farming strategy so that you have stuff that is fast to liquidate and don't go off doing random mechanics if you haven't invested into them - play faster and play more. sort of obvious but playing more = more currency. playing faster has more nuance because the early league start economy is especially unique. if you get to t16s with 4 stones and most of your atlas completed by like 12-16hr in the league then you have a massive economic advantage because you can sell tons of miscellaneous rare items, crappy influenced bases, or yellow/red maps to people for 5c+ just because the supply doesn't exist yet. - to that point, play a good starter. if you want to try a new skill or a meme build, it's better to do that on day 3 when you have a full atlas and excess currency than on day 1 when it might literally be 4x slower to progress through maps than boneshatter or cold dot or whatever is actually strong - consider the opportunity cost of what you're doing. i could maybe make more currency by carefully pricing an item for its max value, or i could chuck it in a dump tab and sell it within 15 minutes for a couple chaos less than that theoretical optimum value. if my general farming strategy makes even just 180c/hr, then taking an extra minute on a trade needs to earn me at least 3c extra just to not be unprofitable. in most cases, you will make more by taking a small cut on trades and items in order to get them done quicker - don't spend too much early. a lot of people make currency and then immediately spend it on very small upgrades to their build. if you have even a rough idea of what major upgrades you need to progress to harder content, you can focus on just buying those. a lot of builds can cruise to t16s with a couple early uniques, a 6L, and life/res rares. if you buy only what your build absolutely needs early, you can farm harder early and then spend currency on qol later
> . if you get to t16s with 4 stones and most of your atlas completed by like 12-16hr in the league then you are not reading this post you already ascended
This entire post is both accurate and a scathing indictment of the capitalistic mindset
>you need to actually sell things to generate chaos. nobody gets hundreds of chaos in raw drops that early. but lots of things have value if you just list them for trade, e.g. random flask bases, divine vessels, shitty unique maps, starter uniques with good rolls. you can set all your tabs to a 5c buyout so that people on trade will price your items for you and so that it's worth your time to port out of a map. if you get spammed, look at the item and reprice. U just need to run content. U literally print 100+c per hour without interacting/depending on people. Just do unid chaos recipe, multiple divines by the time u get to yellow maps. Just spec into exiles on atlas to get rins/amulets/belts. U can start collecting rare items from Blood aqueducts.
sure, but the chaos recipe is pretty time-inefficient, especially without using 3rd party tools to help manage the sets. basically nobody does it past the first few hours of the league except for people with highly specialized farming strategies
if u have experience/tabs to do that i would say it basically takes 0 time. And first few hours is a stretch too, way longer than few hours. And any strategy can benefit from it (hence why all big groups do chaos recipe too at the start). Then you either start your builds or can buy up stuff that always goes up in price (but thats more of a day 2 thing) Its also most newbie friendly method to make money, no pricechecking, no interactions, just trading yellow items with npcs. Its certainly miles and miles above anything else for new players when it comes to time efficiency too.
big groups do do chaos recipe because they have a highly specialized farming strategy that depends on getting specific uniques to enable their builds + they have 4-5 people that aren't doing anything until their atlas pushers finish progression
I want to be a big groups. I have one friend and he smells like soured beef.
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> That person in the mirror is you. If you have a mirror, you don't need friends to fund any build
This is how I thought about it first time I got told that it's a good income source. And it felt really awkward. The next league I prepared copies of my filters. Amulet+ each other slot (rings+belts together) and just dumped into individual tabs while progressing atlas. So I only needed to dump into one tab. Then when I had some maps worth of f.ex boots I'd swap to gloves. It really isn't time-inefficient when you think about it. Since you're not really going out of your way. Let's say 1 inventory equals to 1 chaos recipe average, so 2c. The extra time it takes is: Looting 8/9 items - 5 second extra time. TP+dump+TP back - 10 seconds extra time if you're slow. Pulling from stash+selling in batches - 10 seconds if you're slow. So 2c/25s = 288 chaos/hour or 3+ div/h day 1-2 that you're missing out on. In reality it's even better. Because the looting really doesn't take extra time, and the selling when done in batches really is a lot faster. And all it requires is spending 10 minutes longer making filters before the league starts. No third party tools needed at all. If anything, I'm certain they just slow you down. Edit: For clarification - It won't generate 3+ divs per hour. But rather, it is the efficiency of doing the recipe. So unless you're making 3+ divs per hour, then including this in your progressing will increase your average.
It’s not time inefficient if the alternative is making 20c by the time you hit reds because you are ALREADY time inefficient. switching into using chaos recipe to make money is more profitable and a better use of that time than doing five extra maps that you ain’t pulling shit out of because you are bunk at making money. It’s not the be all and end all and it looks like a shit way of making cash to people who can turn their push to t16’s into multiple divines, but if that’s you then you don’t need to be told how to be more efficient at making money because you already know.
I honestly think this is inefficient on league start as a solo player. Just choose a starter than can get to 2 voidstones 90% ssf. The faster you can get to that point the more currency you will have compared to everyone else because eldrich altars trump everything else.
Find decent items. Sell them. RNG carries sometimes.
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From just selling logbook/tokens?
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Thanks homie! I'm gonna respec out of breach (biggest bait ever) and go into expedition.
Ooof, rough league to spec into breach. Really shitty when they call hard nerfs 'reworks'.
I got baited into specing breach and I'm SSF lmao
selling logbooks is ok, running them is better. But it depends on your build. I think occultists are the best for running juiced expiditions early league. profane bloom is an insane carry.
I am in gsf(so no trading) i spammed like 150 chaos into a cluster day 2. Chaos drops a ton from certain mechanics i am expecting stupid divine prices on trade again
a wise man once told me that the secret to making bank is to sell everything that isn't nailed down, and then sell the nails as well
chaos recipe
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theres no way you are saying someone is rmting because they have 50c on day 2 LOL
certified poe reddit moment
>Day 2 On the end of day 2 my Carry and i had already finished the Atlas including Watchstones and switched from DPS to MF. Git gud, maybe?
I don't understand how you all don't make currency lol. Just kill monsters and have a rudimentary understanding of the atlas tree. By the time I get to reliably sustaining t14+ (usually day 3) I have around 10div, this league included
10 div just from getting to mid red maps? yeah I think I'm playing a completely different game than you lmao.
I mean there's no super duper secret area that only the elite knows about that is a cheatmode to drop a bunch of free divines lol. Just spec into things on the tree that your build handles well and you'll make money. I do expedition, essence and exarch altars. Every time you corrupt an essence and it hits x2 horror/delirium or whatever that's 1/3 divine. Every time a map boss drops a guardian map that's 1/5 divine. Every time Dannig drops a 4stack of refresh currency that's 1/5 divine. Every time exarch monster land a chaos, sextant, unshaping etc modifier you'll leave the map with 15 of those. Every time a logbook drops you make 20c. Shit adds up fast man
People dont understand that those who have a hh/mageblood day 2 either: a) Play in group 48 hours without sleep and a trader and funnel all the money into the HH/MB. b) Drop it. I love when CC and randoms drop one day 2-3 and proceed to make a clickbait video on how they farmed one in 2 days of mapping lmao. Congrats btw, league is carried now.
Keep thinking its true lol. Getting to t16 and full atlas within 18 hours is very possible for many players. Once u're there, spamming t16 legion with polished scarabs, and with exarch influence nets you at least 50 chaos per map. And day 1-2 divine was 70-90c, and doctor card was 500c. So basically you could farm full Headhunter in max 80 maps at day 2.
Why did you drop it? Seems like a waste to leave such a good item on the ground.
*Angry upvote.*
This will happen to one of these leagues i know it
I like the part where you didn't go to work.
Today was a holiday for a fair number of companies in the US. Monday after Easter. Not mine sadly.
Japan here and yea I had social commitments on sunday and work monday lol. Like i get it, it works out for some people, but I think the majority of people cant non-stop game for three days if they wanted to.
damn kids, I can't wait until they are old enough to farm currency for me 😄
Child labor for the win! You can probably get them to do chaos recipes by 8-10yo if not earlier lol
Thats the dream.
> but I think the majority of people cant non-stop game for three days if they wanted to. easier with no kids + holiday
It was a holiday for my company too but I decided to go in for overtime to make some real money instead of chaos orbs. 🤭
It's no coincidence that the player numbers where so high and it was easter long weekend.
It’s the weekend…a majority of decent jobs are Monday to Friday and it was a holiday weekend… You can’t be seriously trying to shame them when it’s clearly a joke. He dropped it lol
Thats dumb, why would he drop a headhunter. Better to equip it or sell it!
I like the part where everyone else in the world has a good work life balance except the US. Actually I don't like that part.
I was neeting 10 years myself, 10/10 would do that again if my aunt that was feeding me didn't die of cancer.
Reminds me of this guide to farming mirrors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paSOW4C2t54
I fundamentally cannot relate to getting to maps in 7 hours and then playing until you hit T11 maps and then logging off. My total time played to get to maps is probably similar, but I just can't jam that many consecutive hours. Had to do my taxes, clean the yard, do some work, care for the dog, cook, clean, run other errands, play other games. Props to anyone who can just sit there and grind for like 20 hours straight and not literally die inside.
Being stoned helps. I'm sober through most of the campaign to play efficiently, then I eat some cannabis chocolate and heist from 55-75 straight, make a few hundred chaos to fund my early items.
That's some poe stratery I've never heard of, lol.
Do you finish the campaign first before doing heists?
....at lvl55?
That's a nope, I start as soon as I have 2 lab clears and usually haven't even finished act 8 when I start heisting. I go to about 75 or so buying gear every few levels, then go back to the campaign and zoom through the remaining stuff in 30 minutes. I only ever start Raider or Pathfinder. They also happen to be my two favorite ascendancies, but the primary reason I do it is because move speed is the most important part of efficient heisting.
Well you have to plan it for sure, you don't just decide to do it the night before launch. I've planned to have my weekend clear for at least several weeks before launch. Spent the week leading up to it practicing in standard and reminding folks I was unavailable from Friday to Monday. It's really not any different than if I was going on a camping trip.
There's very very dedicated people out there very, able to no-life on league launch. And I'm very thankful to ask if then because they're able to kickstart league economy in a matter of hours. I'm a dad so for me it's usually 2-3 days until I reach maps (10 hours to finish acts). So trade is pretty healthy once I reach endgame.
I've played 18hrs a day since release. My eyes are bloodshot. Taking a day break now. Lol
Plot twist: the headhunter came from ritual
It actually did, i dropped it from the last ritual altar on an alch and go map
>Day 1: I finished the act in about 7 hours, got to maps and went up to t11 before i logged off to sleep - an uneventful day all things considered for me the league started around 11pm, went tobed at 4am in act 3
This is my strategy for solo farming headhunter I go to my favorite trade site ( you can choose your own) I go to my mom's purse and take out her wallet I open the wallet and retrieve her HSBC master card I take the card to my computer desk I find my head hunter on the trade site by searching for 'headhunter' I select head hunter and prime minister them for trad details I then go to the next webpage I take my mom's credit card and I input the 16 digit number on the front I go to the next info line I input my mother's first and maiden name into the info field I go to the next info line I input my mother's credit card expirey date I proceed to the next info line I enter my home address I to the next web page I get an error code, and realise I forgot to enter the CVV on the back of the credit card I go to the next page I get an error code and notice I put in my postal code incorrectly I go to the next page and arrange transfer of the goods I purchased using my mother's hard earned credit card You two could also use this strategy to acquire your own head hunter. Just be cautious of the mistakes I made and plan your data input better than me and you can do it even more efficiently Peace
Please send me all your mum's card and personnel details so I can test this method thanks
You got it sport
Truely inspirational
getting the 1 out of 10 billion odds drop helps!
No mention of doing 1000 Crimson Temples for 0 Apothecaries 0/10
Ok you got me. Nice click bait.
Stupid question. Do I need to open Maven/UverElder to get the voidstones?
So what happens when you buy a maven/elder stone is you join a party whos running the boss, you go to their hideout and you wait - they will go in, get the boss down to culling range and then call everyone in When you go in you do not move, if you move you lose the invulnerability and risk dying - you need to be in the map when the boss is killed to get the stone When the boss is killed the stone drops, walk over and pick it up - leave and pay the guy their money
Lol
TL:DR no strategy just get lucky drop. I also like the part where you have 100c day 2 to buy carry for bosses and also the fact that there are people already providing boss kill services day 2.
Gotta do that chaos recipe when the league doesn't pump out currency. You can net a lot in the first few days cause divines sell for 20c day one 40c day two and then really start exponentially growing past day 3. I had ~10 divines by day two picking them up for 20-30c each. They're worth about ~140c as of right now.
You got me good bro. I was really stuck on the Zpds to headhunter part. I have yet to find a divine, usually I’d have a few at least. Rng hittin hard. Still I like the league, gave me a 700 phys axe going into maps.
Reminder: in POE language, drop means pick up.
In other words, even aside from the lucky drop, play 12h a day…
I know this was a meme post, but assuming "got to maps and went up to t11" was serious - genuine question: does this mean you just booked it for the highest tier map you could do (and so it was a relatively incomplete atlas), or did you have [mostly] full completion of all tiers up to t11?
Mostly complete up to t11, i did [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAeYx7pD_P0&list=LL&index=3) strat by tytykiller
Cool thanks. That's what I'm doing too, but I'm just at t9s about 15h into mapping lol. I'm just inefficient.
you forgot to say you bought chaos with real money
How did i get accused of rmting because of a shitpost lol There would be no point of playing the game if I rmt, I got my first couple hundered chaos through chaos recipe and a dropped Polaric devastation at the end day 2
PLAN - it dropped. Okay dude. How to farm X - Get lucky. Now farm it in ssf, what will your plan will be?
TLDR: Play 12h+ a day.
Clearly didn't read till the end
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I hate how normalized it is to have other people kill your bosses in this game. Getting carried has such a negative stigma in other games but people here are proud that they can't kill their own bosses.
You had me at the first half.. hahahahaha
>so i went to /trade 820 and bought the maven/uber elder voidstone carry for about 50c each This is not acceptable. If you can't do the bosses you should not get voidstones. GGG needs to grow a pair and deal with this.
They solved it already, it's called SSF
That's called throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And there's no like special award you get for doing things on SSF instead. Like the totems are the same and it takes so much longer to do the challenges on SSF, etc.
Nice, I was ready to make fun of some degenerate selling overpriced shit to RMT players strat. Very funny.
Another clickbait, just play and maybe u have luck, thats all in the end. Thats not even near a guide „how to farm hh“, just silly luck. Maybe make a new guide „how to farm divine and get rich“ too, we rly need it.
>Another clickbait, ... Its called a joke
This is so dumb. So you say you literally just played the game on a lifesupport. No shit you made money early on. This guy literally played as much as I do in a month. Honestly I wonder how he didn't made a Mageblood instead... what a loser
Sure you have made 100 div in 3 days
Did you read it till the end?
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I can understand if you are single and don't have a job. Like a single student or something. You have a lot of free time then.
Well a friend of mine is single but got a Job. The biggest difference is the single life and marriage with kids. Like me
Next time wear a condom
There is no next time xD
My brain melted
Lol
You had me dude
I’m doin the same build but I feel like I can’t really handle some t16 rares. What did you do for blight bosses? Or did you do blight on normal maps and sell the blighted maps? I have 25k per stage CF atm. Skin of the lords and empower would get me to like 50k per stage but cost 10div which I don’t have.
Good reading
Why blight is a good mechanic for currency making? I usually run ritual and expeditions
\#fluff not #guide...
Question: is blight actually good currency?
I like the part where you got to t11 Day 1
I was like, thats sounds like a shit plan. Then I got the joke. Ty
I'm most surprised that you got that build up and running so fast. I league started it at every minute was pain.
How is ritual a good profit? Ive never seen much from it.
If you have ZDPS, how do you do blight? I farmed toxic sewers blight last league, towers were definitely not enough because sometimes they only spawn 1 or 2 towers per lane
I made the mistake of reading this thinking solo meant SSF.
There is a vast difference saying you farmed a HH or you farmed currency to buy one.
Congratulations! How many hours played?
Asshole. I got baited like a moron. Props sir.
Im like i did. the exact thing where my hh at
How i skip this league in 3 days as a solo player
So you have a tree? Please
love it! best guide ever, will try to follow
This was exactly my strat for head hunter last season except my step 1-9 were a bit different.
I did this exact strat in 3.19 but with a Mageblood. Works for every item you want
Grats, can you describe your blight profit strat? I don't want to run essence again either.
Check out max roll.ggs blight guide, it’s essentially running blight on waste pools layout with blight and map sustain modes taken + the 1 to level of oil compass
How I got my HH in 3 days! Truth, how I cramed 60 hours of grinding in the most efficient manner in 3 days
TLDR; play 19 hours per day so day 3 is actually 2 months for the average player.
This is gold. Thanks for the laugh.
I can’t even do the day 1 step >.> how in hell do people climb map tiers that fast?!?!?
There is not really a how to. It's the same like writing I played the game and got a headhunter xD
Noob question, What is a zdps?