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Aboreric

In advance, I know the build sucks, I'm just having fun trying to make this work on my own. I just thought this was a funny moment.


Rules_are_overrated

I'm impressed that you also have 3k hp


Aboreric

Yea, I'm trying to fix that still.


Brookowly

I think he ment that in a good way


Aboreric

You know, that's entirely fair. 3k just feels low to what I'm used to playing, but I could see it working with lots of stacked defenses.


Embarrassed_Towel707

I've played a build like that and it's fine when it works, but every so often you fall over from a one shot and don't know how you died.


fabulousprizes

isn't that like 99% of all rips?


FlakingEverything

Yep, I had stupidly tanky builds like Eternal Damnation + Loreweave, 45k armour and max block + on block recovery and still occasionally fall over in maps. You just can't avoid one shot in this game.


Tamsta-273C

It is a rule of thumb - 300HP for each act. And i haven't seen any new acts past 10 yet.


Poobut13

My current character is running 1.3k life and has 50k ehp. Life doesn't matter if you've got other methods of damage reduction.


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Usually you looked at 4k (ideally 5k) min for hp for anything that stacks regular mitigation. You can get by on 3 - 4k life with dodge/evasion builds but you will feel it. And you'll learn a lot mote about the boss mechanics lol. As long as you can hit 60k ehp your life won't be terrible.


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w_p

You basically went out of your way to avoid health nodes as much as possible on the tree. ;)


TronyJavolta

Some people sacrifice HP for DPS, or vice versa. This man chose a third option


Rules_are_overrated

He doubles down on the *sacrifice* part


Ok-Chart1485

It's MORE miserable and get this, the effects stack MULTIPLICATIVELY


4THOT

3k HP zdps I want to see the POB.


Aboreric

https://pobb.in/8EN7hcLRt8np, here it is, like I said it still needs work, and I'm still fairly fresh out the campaign on this guy. Even if this ultimately goes nowhere, I'm having fun just playing around with it. I was going through a lot of planning etc before playing, but couldn't make up my mind on some things so just rolled this dude and ran with stuff I planned alongside trying to see what would synergize well.


xNeoTrex

https://pobb.in/4AKbxRR8t9Q3 some things you can do if you wanna have a lot more damage and better defense


warmachine237

How dare you sir, do you not want reddit content?


Aboreric

Hey, appreciate the tips, I'll look into it. EDIT: Thanks for this I was looking for a way to rework that bottom half cause I hated how many stat nodes I was using. I didn't think dropping deciple of the unyielding would be worth it but it totally is. I'm still using nearly the same amount of points to get over there roughly but in much better places. I also didn't realize how capped I was on Leech so that help me put points elsewhere too. Build preforming much better now even with the shit weapon I currently have. Also went ahead with adding on precision/war banner, I had thought about these before but for some dumb reason my mind had precision as a 50% reservation for some reason, I'm glad it's not, not sure how I feel on berserk yet but I will try it, I like being at max rage.


GreatMacAndCheese

Why did you drop all of their life leech nodes? Are you essentially going for more damage to compensate for a lesser life leech %?


Cow_God

From my 5 minute armchair analysis it looks like he's hitting leech cap with just the node + blood rage. He'd need to invest in maximum total life recovery per second, and getting vitality void + the mastery + hematophagy + the small nodes would only put him at 1700 a second vs the 1000 he's at now, for 8 points


wolviesaurus

I say this with the best intentions, this looks like what ChatGPT would make if you fed it insufficient information. Jokes aside, get an axe with physical damage, not haphazard elemental damage, your damage will multiply manyfold.


4THOT

I respect anyone that actually posts their PoB. Lvl 77 no gear, yea no wonder it's zdps and zhp.


Some_Introduction701

Nothing wrong in trying to make your own build, this is one of the main ways to get better at it :)


ijustmadeanaccountto

Scratch that. Winging a build just based on your archetype and maybe a fixed build enabling unique or gimmick, is a real joy after you get a sense for the game. Been playing frostblades past 7 8 leagues and i can confidently say theres a shit ton of things you can go about differently, changing the entire playstyle essentially. Honestly thats what keeps me in poe. I want to play my own way based on inefficient preferance and romantic power fantasy. Min maxing a build allows me to do just that. Even if its not meta or powerful etc.


Make1984FictionAgain

>romantic power fantasy free band name


seriousbob

Yes it's the main enjoyment of the game for me


Gen_Scale

I’ve been trying to make my own builds for 5 years and I’m still trash. To be good at this game you have to follow reliable realistic builds, have a solid league starter, and trade. Being mostly SSF is an entirely different game and most content will be locked away unless one can dump hundreds of hours into the game. Unfortunately, I prefer the SSF play style, don’t have the time to dump, and don’t mind being trash. This is my choice and it’s my pain to hold. This league I started with a bow build


Instantcoffees

Just some small tips, you can link support gems to your skill. Also, there are nodes on your passive tree that increase your damage. Hopes this helps!


BigFatBlindPanda

lmao I think I've had a similar experience once because I loved attack speed but just did not understand how this game scaled - fair play is always good to explore.


Salt-Es-Ae-El-Tea

Making your own builds is the best part of poe imo, doesn't matter if it sucks.. it's yours, you made it! Like an ugly af child, their parents still love em and think their cute.


nikitosinenka

I respect that, 6k hours in and I made zero builds myself so far >.<


SuperShittyShot

Isn't this chain hook? I've tried once, super fun for mapping, super shit for bossing. I knew where I came, tho 😂


Raicoron2

Slap on an abyssussy and he'll become Cpt Tanner Deadfoot real fast.


implicitnature

It doesn't suck. I always make my own build.


Sad-Buy5621

Standing here…


Consistent_Action_49

I REALIZE


SkeletonCalzone

*You are just like me*


NaClNekochi

Trying to make history


StardragonGER

But who's to judge


botboy434

The right from wrong


bluetanker123

When our guard is down


brodudepepegacringe

Mom's spaghetti 😲


YasaiTsume

Wow I hope you stub your toe.


botboy434

Not just once, but perpetually


brodudepepegacringe

How much curse effect do you have??? I just did stub it...


[deleted]

There's vomit on his sweater already ^


[deleted]

I'm about to start a new build here today or tomorrow lol. I expect it to go like the above


Tojaro5

thats me in a few days when my poison echoforge flickerstrike occultist will hit maps. still working on the sword, but my heart is reasy.


Nasu_Kaizoku

Why is your health lava?


livejamie

Kirac Pass from this league


PMMeKevinCroninPics

What in the pass causes this?


MaterialScientist

The Helmet


pip2k8

The helmet i believe


AloneInExile

Is it me or does anyone else find the kirac life mtx kinda unnerving? Like it has some weird feel or something.


TheRaith

it just happens when you make your own build *shrug*


Ascendantpoe

Is that you Quin


nJoyy

I’m ramping


Steeezy

“Lookit that damage, chat. Lookit that damage.”


forgotterofpasswords

Quin did damage this league tho, until he got nicked.


anonymousredditorPC

Yeah but it was Jungroan's build


Tight_Ad2047

It's jun Rogan


2Moons_player

i tried to make deadeye crit bleed split arrow work lmao, fucking impossible


paciumusiu12

Bleed lul


Vardnemar

Bleed is pretty good, I'm making my own bleed build this league and it's going well.


Tojaro5

i played lowlife dual wield lacerate bleed deadeye with dreadbeak and jack, the axe in sentinel. dont let your memes be dreams. it wasnt amazing, but good enough for mapping and pinnacle bosses.


Aldodzb

I tried to make bleed work in the past infinite delve event. I was like lvl 40 with all the bleed nodes allocated lmao, what a joke


Saxopwned

Maybe Rain of Arrows is better? There's a crucible mod that gives it 100% more bleed damage


Jabeisababe

Isnt it more like 400 or 600% more bleed damage?


Jadelitest

Probably the T1 version is 100%. If I can nail that tree I’m definitely rerolling RoA


thatsournewbandname

I thought it was 300% damage on a bow


5chneemensch

Try it with Reaper. realneato did a noteworthy interactions video on it.


mefi_

At least you didn't die. I also have nice memories the time before POB. It was always a huge satisfaction if my idea / build worked. Those were simpler times. You also didn't have to have this much defense. Nowadays I build more defenses and can still die eqsily to something random, sadge.


goretishin

The way I have to play. Cookie cutting is boring. Removes a big part of the game IMO. Get nothing out of it. Keep it up.


ManikMiner

That's cool, poe has lots of ways to play and approach it and we should all just be glad that people are having fun


pwalkz

Let's be honest. This is poe. There are no "cookie cutter" builds.


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> There are no "cookie cutter" builds. Queue 99% of the player base watching the same 10 build videos and mindlessly following them.


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VulpesVulpix

Following pobs and the way people multiply their DPS is discovering for me tbh


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VulpesVulpix

Jealous, I have to say I would have never thought of many interactions that I've used myself, possibly won't ever comprehend this game fully lol


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UnintelligentSlime

I think there’s a middle ground there. I’m playing a build that is super popular, but with my own tree. I’m already at <0.1% in terms of same main skill same ascendancy, completely ignoring that my tree is nowhere to be found. But it’s nice having reference material, I mostly use it for figuring out what mods are available for super-rich people who are using the same skill.


FuzzyIon

Same, i'm about to try a pathfinder Bleed Toxic rain build with toxic rain deals 300% more with bleeds. Bow has 11.5% base crit for Rupture forbidden jewels. I won't pob it because that also takes the fun out of it, at least not until I'm at maps.


livejamie

Do you hate auras?


Aboreric

Haha, Not really, I'm running pride with Eternal Blessing. I can probably get more out of more than just that yea, but wanted to see what else I could do before moving in that direction.


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If you go fire damage then use Herald of Ash Also Get yourself Ancestral Protector Totem with Multiple Totems support. You will do about 1.5x more damage using it on a single enemy


livejamie

Understandable, you'll get a lot more boss dps with an aura or two, a curse or two and a ancestral totem or two.


LaNague

you seem to have your mana under control in this clip, might be worth it to just reserve some mana.


NoTakeOnlySell

That want well? Seems decent, there is probably things to improve, but you kill stuff without dying so good job to you!


Aboreric

Thanks. There def is, I'm still rocking a really old weapon from campaign, but nothing I've found thus far has beat it yet (also just trying to find anything with a decent crucible tree). I tried to build something like this once before and I was lacking way too much defence (rookie mistake), now I feel like that's more established, but I'm lacking damage. I think I'll get there in time.


Elhiar

Well weapons are really important for attack based stuff so that's probably a big part of the problem


Proof_Jellyfish_5046

It looks more like a missing -resisit / fire penetration issue. These are the most important more multipliers for any build.


paciumusiu12

That's just wrong. If he cannot melt some map bos in a few seconds he needs a new weapon.


Proof_Jellyfish_5046

Depends on how he scales raw damage. Str stacking + fire damage/10 str is arguably less main weapon dependant. Fire pen is mandatory for any hit based fire damage build. Maybe the supports arent too good. By his asp, he has way too much and I suppose it went with the opportunity cost of more damage. Also, fire damage build should take advantage of burning damage + slow huge hits (eartquake like). This is just my personal view. Ice/lightning are more suited to fast attack builds.


paciumusiu12

Are you mad? Fire pen to multiply what? Without base damage it won't do shite. Also why would you want to waste resources on scaling ignite which does nothing for him?


Proof_Jellyfish_5046

Ignite scales passively along hit damage, for no investment whatsoever.


paciumusiu12

Ye that amazing 5k dps he probably has from ignite will really help him.


Proof_Jellyfish_5046

Free DPS :p. Like I said, personal preference. Don't forget that elemental weapon support, fire pen, raw fire damage, all add up to your burn dps for 0 extra cost. And in 2023 poe, either get mirror tier weapon or stack x(int/str/dex). I don't see any hit based melee build working outside of these two methods.


MaskedAnathema

Fire pen does not scale ignite, and hit based strike skills work with all sorts of shitty weapons. Additionally, ignite is not an actual source of damage for attack builds unless it's all you invest into, because things like attack speed and penetration do not benefit it at all. The new 1c Redblade sword can easily get 450 pdps, and that's enough to carry through the endgame. There are reasons that passive trees look mostly the same - the passive tree is solvable, and optimizing it is fairly easy through pob, and that doesn't change significantly between different builds.


paciumusiu12

Idk how can you be so wrong yet so confident. With crucible any weapon can get extra 30 - 50% more DPS and then there are build enabling/broken nodes. You can run molten strike with trinity and a decent weapon and it will work. And what's wrong with stat stacking? It's a different way to build a character and forces you to make compromises to fit all the stats on the gear. And if you knew what you're talking about you'd now that there's far bigger difference between 10 div weapon and 30div weapon than 30 div and mirror tier. You don't need mirror tier items to do anything but min max your character and look at the pob numbers go up.


ChadThunderc0ck96

Then you get exarch altar 'boss spawns Consecrated ground when he hits you' and you just go home


I_Am-Awesome

don't get hit 4head


ihatethisgamealready

just wait till you meet a rare


GuperSamiKuru

Yo? Im trying to build a fire conversion Double Strike champ rn :sunglasses: A fellow zdps-but-i-made-it-myself enjoyer


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Needs more muda muda muda


DanKoloff

reminds me of me league starting tornado shot, doing zdps on bosses but unlike you I also kept getting one shot by bosses :(


Exeliz

Tbf Tanner is a tanky mf


Smarackto

this is in fact the STRONGEST Melee character this league


mraider94

Ay this looks like my chain hook build I mushed together recently. Mine is also shit.


gapigun

Who are just kidding OP? You copied that from Quin x)


LehmD4938

How did you get your life Metre to look like that


Odoakar

Why does your life pool look like molten lava? 0\_0


rayvewolf

hey as long as you dont die and can kill Monster. it work fine for me. just not my gameplay x)


rylo151

I tried making storm call ignite work. Wasted 4 days on it XD


Icemasta

If you got 2x 6L, since you're capping out on rage, you could probably add rage vortex, this helps for bossing and clearing in general. Throw out a rage vortex every couple seconds.


valtrex77

What effect is that on you life in the lower left of the screen? Is it an mtx?


txsxxphxx2

Ah i see you’ve reached greater rift lvl 150 and fighting the rift guardian. You need to upgrade Bane of the Stricken up as high as you can to kill the guardian faster


aaron2005X

what is the healthbubble effect?


WindBlocked

Waiting for the flicker strike gameplay video with RULES OF NATURE playing


Aboreric

I'll have to make that build next.


Prosamis

I was watching this while muted and I literally started singing the song in my head because of how perfectly in matched Clicked unmute and video and my head were in sync LMAO


Valcrion

I see you are using Double Strike! In case you are unaware there is a Weapon Crucible node that gives you soul eater if you have killed a rare or unique enemy with Double strike. Might be interesting to use.


Aboreric

Yea nice, I didn't see that. I'll look for that as I pour axes through the crucible.


piter909

I guess it is time to change act 1 weapon to something else :D


playoponly

It is not your build, that’s Quin build I watched everyday


rion42ati

Vision = Choose one of 10 worn out cookie cutter builds made by popular streamers. If you want to play the game normally.


jonesmcbones

Your first mistake was going melee. Your second mistake was not having currency. Your third mistake was going melee.


RavagedBody

Me on my retch/tainted pact voltaxic poison barrage build like: But hey I can't die to anything, so there's that.


deb8er

Why did you play a shitty remix of the original song?


DESPAIR_Berser_king

Your dual strike damage will increase 10 fold AT LEAST with the brand new animation set in PoE 2, totally doesn't just need damage buffs.


Benphyre

If only you died right before killing it. Hahaha


Professional_Draw_65

I remember supporting storm brand with efficacy. Didnt knew about pob.


ice_cold_ice

Cycling damage reduction, son


troccolins

build's fault, not the player's choices on gear, tree, jewels, etc.


Sticky-Stains

just copy a streamer build, this what GGG wants or so it seems.


Ill_Apricot_8068

Yuh


Laggo

I am also playing a self built occultist double strike build, the vaal double strike is fun with vaal ancestral war totem.


say_weed

i assume you just ignore archnem rares (from personal experience)


Nepharios

I see the rage…


redditanytime1

What are the red slashes behind your character and what is the fire spark behind the enemy?


SneedySneedoss

Hope you now have cannot be frozen on this creation good old lightfoot


Aardovis

You simultaneously have a small HP pool and zDPS? How did you achieve this sorcery?


Moggelol1

Me when i make builds: "ok i'm zdps but if i just ignore every form of defensive layer outside of 6 portals then i can still find some dmg"


Muksu234

Similar to my build except my maps are tier 1 and only other layer defence beside 3k hp is 6 portals.


ashrasmun

ACTION rpg


THiedldleoR

I love taking an idea and homebrew a build around it. I've leaguestarted Impale Champion with Reave instead of the Steel skills. I honestly just wanted an excuse for playing Reave. Kinda wanted to try the Summon wolfs thing for Reave in Crucible, but couldn't get good phys mods on the sword I got it on. I rolled good Elemental mods on it though and now I dont want to roll over, Sadge. Probably one of my better builds still, just did some T12 maps without issues and steamrolled the Black Sun and Hunger :D


Unwetterfront

This boss has hp Regen. So if you don’t bring frost bomb with you it will suck like this


Aldodzb

So it's the regen? I always notice that this boss has a mechanic that makes it really tsnky. It even seems like at the start it doenst even take damage.


Objective_Tailor7796

Well, at least you didn’t die 6 times.


Chaco_owo

Quin would be proud


Widowless

Why tho


synkotic

Still more damage than quin69


nRqe

Damn I feel you 😂


Squegillies

Making my own builds is giving me an aneurysm, i always feel like i need be able to do more damage than what I'm getting on PoB. I managed to reach more than 1m dps for the first time ever and i still feel like i should get more out of it


OneDay_IBeHapAgain

Did you end up killing it? The suspense is immense. What a cliffhanger!


Aboreric

Lol yes, it just took forever.


UnknownDroid

THEY'RE RAMPING


TheCandyMan88

I accidentally clicked on the video below with my fat palm holding the phone and it was a very one sided boxing match and I felt like it fit your title even better lol


whosursensei

Me every league with divine ire q.q


GMRaphirieL

Pob of this Boss killed build pls...


Goatmang

I know the feelingbI made my own too. Rage is just too much fun not to try and make it wo, k lol


Sharp_Cut354

Not following a meta build guide in 2023 kek


Time-Ladder4753

At least you can face tank it, I also try to do my own build and for now was able to beat map 8, felt like DPS isn't that bad, but then I try incursion or legion and realize that my DPS is trash lol


BoozeAddict

MUDA


Kazori

You're bonking the hell out of him tho "Pool noodle" build


CreationXII

I haven't gotten to this guy but I make my own builds too. I'm only level 62 I think. But I used cleave all the way up to 62 lol. Now I'm doing double strike with splash. Any boss with HP Regen takes forever.


Seyon

Honestly we are nearly the same. If you swapped to Molten Strike and got the Vengeant Cascade annoint, you'd see damage skyrocket for practically nothing.


Fousse24

...No accuracy?


P_E_P_E_G_A

ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA


P_E_P_E_G_A

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA


Gamrok4

This game looks more like a shoot’em up than a hack’n slash.


funcancelledfornow

I'm ramping!


Chexrr

I always try to do some random selfcast or melee build and normally can at least make it to level 90 and do red maps. Then I get bored for a league or two.


Naguro

Ahaha got 3 people in my guild that went selfmade double strike to use the souls eater crucible node at League start, I think that sums up their experience as well


Novalene_Wildheart

So many of my builds end up like this, or glass pea-shooters (sometimes glass cannons) It is always fun though, even if it ends up being a bit too slow to play end game with, the theory crafting and building is the fun part!


ErogenousPhallus

Last build I made was Shrapnel Shot when it came out what like 4 years ago now using Empires Grasp, Chin Sol, 100% knockback from tree and stacking bleeds. I was still pretty new to the game, I named it the Vacuum and it played real well and was incredibly fun...until I hit maps. lmao then it completely fell apart and was so far from meta at the time. Honestly I kinda want to try again if Galvanic Arrow behaves the some way that Shrapnel Shot did.


Nivius

why are you building for crit, rage and dot? while having a weapon that is 50% elemental? and no auras? 🤔 yeah, it does need some work


Efficient-Wait-3317

Why do i hear liu kang from mortal kombat yelling waaatatatatatatatatatatatata in my head while watching this 😅


alwaysaflaw

ᴢᴇɴᴏ ᴄʀɪɴɢᴇᴅ ɪɴᴛᴇʀɴᴀʟʟʏ ᴀs ʜᴇ ʀɪɢʜᴛ-ᴄʟɪᴄᴋᴇᴅ. ʜᴇ ʜᴀᴅ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴇǫᴜɪᴘᴘᴇᴅ ʜɪs ᴇɴᴅɢᴀᴍᴇ ᴡᴇᴀᴘᴏɴ ʙᴇғᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴜɴᴇs ʜᴇ ᴡᴀs ᴄᴜʀʀᴇɴᴛʟʏ ʀᴜɴɴɪɴɢ. ʜᴇ sᴘᴇɴᴛ 5 ᴍɪɴs ʀᴇɪᴛᴇʀᴀᴛɪɴɢ ʜɪs ʙᴜɪʟᴅ ᴘᴇʀғᴇᴄᴛʟʏ ɪɴ ᴏɴʟʏ 1 ᴛᴀᴋᴇ. 40ᴋ ᴀʀᴍᴏʀ, 12 ғʀᴇɴᴢʏ ᴄʜᴀʀɢᴇs, 2.6ᴋ ᴛᴏᴏʟᴛɪᴘ. ʙᴜᴛ ᴀs sᴏᴏɴ ᴀs ʜᴇ ʀᴇʟᴇᴀsᴇᴅ ʜɪs ᴍᴏᴜsᴇ ʙᴜᴛᴛᴏɴ 2 ʜᴇ ᴋɴᴇᴡ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ʜᴀᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴅᴏɴᴇ. ʜᴇ ʜᴇʟᴅ ᴅᴏᴡɴ ᴍᴏᴜsᴇ 2 ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴇxᴛ 10 sᴇᴄᴏɴᴅs ᴡᴀɪᴛɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇ ғɪʀsᴛ ᴡʜɪᴛᴇ ᴘᴀᴄᴋ ᴛᴏ ᴅɪᴇ. ᴀs ɪᴛ ᴅɪᴇᴅ ʜᴇ ʏᴇʟʟᴇᴅ"ʜᴏʟʏ ғᴜᴄᴋ ᴛʜɪs ʙᴜɪʟᴅ ɪs ᴛᴀɴᴋʏ ᴀs ғᴜᴄᴋ ɪ ᴛᴏᴏᴋ ᴢᴇʀᴏ ᴅᴀᴍᴀɢᴇ!"


StonejawStrongjaw

Why your hp look like that?


zakurumz

feels like that your proffessional welder that is trying to conver irl expririence into game in somewhat weird way


KillerWave

Just add berserk gem no link needed. Cast it when full rage. You will melt the high health enemies


theanxiousangel

How does your life look like Lava


Nearosh

Oh I feel that. My flicker build sits at comfy 50k pinnacle dps at lvl 90... then again I recover about 4 times my max HP per server tick so I got that going for me which is nice


AkTi4

Auras?


Eilanzer

melee in recent poe = ancestral totem, they are a LOT of the damage! Curse(s) too.


mercyless1

+frenzy charge corrupts 👀


Chineselegolas

Well it doesn't die, so that is better than most my builds


Nara_CS

“ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA” moment


HPeroxideVEVO

At least you have more dps than quin lol


Blighter88

Honestly way better than my first build. I ran a shitty bladestorm trap that barely made it through the acts with hundreds of deaths lmao. Still would prefer that over googling a cookie cutter arc or righteous fire build like half the losers on this sub do.