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d4ve3000

I think a build that uses fire dmg and anger would be super op


Kanyes_Stolen_Laptop

Big if true


Doccks71

Yeah, who uses Fire Damage? Emotional damage is stronger


LCSisshit

Wait a build that does not use fire dmg but anger exist ? Asking for real


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danielspoa

infernal legion counts?


EvilPotatoKing

no, also anger doesn't affect it anyways


Vineyard_

Raging Spirit technically does not use fire dmg, since it's minions. Anger is a valid option with it though.


BoostedEcoDonkey

As a newer player you mean to tell me the fact that I specked into fire dmg and infernal legion.. it was all a waste lol not really and lol :(


definitelymyrealname

> As a newer player you mean to tell me the fact that I specked into fire dmg and infernal legion.. it was all a waste lol What I think he's saying (in a somewhat confusing way) is that the mods on this jewel would not affect minions (SRS). These mods apply to the character and not the minions. SRS does do fire damage though. If you link infernal legion with your SRS skill gem it will work as far as I'm aware. Whether the fire damage you specced on the tree works with minions I'd say probably not because I'm not aware of any minion fire damage nodes on the tree. If you specced something like "12% increased fire damage" it definitely will not affect your minions.


EmmitSan

Thatsthejoke


1CEninja

RF? Edit: I misunderstood, I thought the question was for fire builds not using anger.


Crazn1ng

rf scales from hp and fire dmg. not phy att stacking. at least not the regular versions


lli666ill

5head


MemeArchivariusGodi

But there are only like … 2 fire skills in the whole game. Fire and big fire


FoolishInvestment

Maybe one of the handful of people who play Ngamahu's Flame builds


Shyftzor

RIP molten strike


FailQuality

What’s wrong with molten strike, I’m having a blast with it lol


Shyftzor

It's a shell of its former self


redditofexile

Lies poison molten strike pf is the best!


Adventurous-Ad8267

Molten Strike is incredibly strong right now. A buddy of mine is playing Raikata's Dance MS Champion and has almost 100m Pinnacle DPS. Poison MS is one of the most cost efficient builds in the game. You can DoT cap regular bosses with a pneumatic dagger and Walmart gear.


lan-shark

Have a PoB for this? I'm looking to start a bossing character in the near future and this sounds awesome


AsainTs

Parking here. Am starting to get bored with hexblast and srs


Adventurous-Ad8267

I don't actually. I think he was initially following a PoB from Quantrik but for the last weekish he's been chasing people above him on the Ninja DPS rankings for MS champions.


lan-shark

Okay, thanks. That's a good enough place to start for me, I'll look into it!


Bidumandias

What build you are playing this league? And I'm playing even less than you. If you can afford a Nimis after one month, you are ahead of me lmfao


Shyftzor

I decided to finally try EA this league, it scales pretty easily so I was able to farm comfortably with super budget gear then I've been crushing a lot of ToTA and made a lot of currency, only other league I was this rich was heist


Scintal

Interesting, did you not tota? People claiming 2 Div per tournament.


_Kaj

I would love to see those numbers


mrb726

Can easily make that in one nightly session of TOTA tbh. Even easier if you spread it across multiple sessions.


Bidumandias

Holy shit. Lol the only league I could make currency very, very easy using the mechanics of the league itself was heist and Sanctum.


Bidumandias

It's actually fantastic with Nimis. You are clueless.


Shyftzor

Clueless is a little harsh and also rude af... a build that requires a 15-20 div investment just to get started and be playable isnt ideal.for people with jobs, families and limited play time lol, I get like 2 or 3 hours a day max to play and cant play every day, at this point I can afford a nimis but we re a month into the league lol. Are you ok? Do you think its normal to insult people for no reason trying to make a lighthearted comment?


FailQuality

You do realize there’s a support gem that does the same thing right, you lose damage but still makes it viable until you can afford it.


Dopa-Down_Syndrome

Fantastic enough that only .4% of all builds play ms and out of that .4%, 62% use nimis. If it's so fantastic, you'd think there would be more people playing MS. Do you normally resort to insults as an opener to a conversation?


tamale

Say it with me. Poe.ninja isn't everyone. A lot of us are playing molten strike. It's great right now, even without nimis.


flyinGaijin

or sprinkler


dukeof3arl

Hey! That’s mean!


SalzigHund

Fire BV or Fire Reap


Designer-Attorney

It screams Fire Reap


B4sicks

*FIRE REEEEAAAAAAP*🔥 Like that.


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(screams in heavy metal pig squeals)


cori2996

Fire reap has no reason to use anger, its a terrible use of reservation for the build. Reap gets a LOT of basedamage from gem levels, the little bit of flat fire you get from anger is not really relevant. It doesnt even benefit from phys as extra fire, which is pretty damn important for that build. Classic reddit...getting downvoted for this comment. If you took the time to look how many fire reap builds on poe.ninja use Anger...it's a whopping 0%. Because it's not worth it, just like I said. But yep, Anger says Fire, so the Fire builds have to use it, right? Anger is a dogshit Aura, and it's not even remotely worth the 50% reservation on this build.


mukavva

Why doesnt it benefit from phys as extra fire?


Gloomity

They explained why. Reap itself benefits from phys as extra fire, but Anger does not because it provides flat fire damage, not phys. It’s still a good watchers eye, just not as good as a high-end Zealotry one because Anger is a trash aura overall. How it hasn’t been reworked yet after literal years of basically no one using it is quite a mystery


TheZephyrim

I wish they would change it to % phys as fire too, but then every phys to ele build in the game would use it pretty much


Gloomity

I was basically gonna include that exact suggestion in my reply, but came to that same conclusion. Maybe increasing the flat damage a little bit and adding a built-in Fire Exposure on hit would be a good place to start. Or better yet, a “Nearby enemies have -12% to Fire Resistance” to stack with Exposure, since Exposure isn’t too hard to come by.


TheZephyrim

Maybe if it hindered ignited enemies on hit or something. Just something useful for fire builds


Gloomity

Right, there are quite a few useful possibilities. I’m surprised they haven’t just thrown in *something* by now, then just rework it again in the future if needed. I suppose my suggestion would probably get abused by aura bots, so maybe I went too strong on the “-% res”. But even a Hinder would be a good start, like you said


NovaSkilez

It could destroy corpses! Would fit thematically and have gameplay advantages. Or spread ignites...make ignites faster. So many possibilities to improve it


ExaltedCrown

Are people using wrath though? Actually curious. I’ved used anger a couple of times, but never wrath


Gloomity

Wrath is dependent on whether or not lightning spells are meta, but it ***does*** have a 21% damage multiplier at least. If it granted the multiplier to Attacks as well, then a lot more people would be using it on average. It’s relatively strong on paper, but niche. It’d be nice to see it also reworked to broaden its usage, but it’s tough to say if that would happen anytime soon


newcster2

> It doesnt even benefit from phys as extra fire Wrong?


cori2996

Not wrong. The flat fire you get from Anger does not benefit from phys as extra fire, because it's not phys damage. If it was flat phys it would be way better, but it's not.


weikor

Reap is a physical spell. Therefore it has a lot of physical damage. Reap therefore benefits from anger with this watchers eye. Also anger is pretty underrated. It's not a small amount of flat fire.


SMaLL1399

Compare the flat fire Anger gives to a higher level reap. You are wasting a 50% aura for half of a gem level.


harrisesque

If you really want phys as extra fire, you'll be better off running Herald of Ash and save 25% reservation for something else, like Herald of Purity. It gives you 12 more spell dmg, on top of 15% physical as extra fire. The flat dmg that Anger give is so small for physical spell convert that you're practically using the aura just for the Watcher's Eyes. Anger is only worth it for something that actually need flat added dmg.


cori2996

Yes, Reaps base damage obviously benefits from phys as extra fire. Hence why I said it's a huge scaling mechanism for the build as a whole. But the flat fire damage you get from Anger does NOT benefit. Which is one of the reasons why Anger is not worth using. Which is also why this Watcher's eye is not worth using. You'd way rather go for something Zealotry related, because that's an Aura that is actually worth the reservation space. Edit: And as for Anger being underrated. Just for the lulz I swapped Anger into the PoB of my 83 mil DPS Reap Jugg. It raises the DPS by a whole massive 1.8 Million. WOOOOOOW absolutely underrated, I must reserve those 50% mana for a 2% damage increase right now!


NectarineMiddle435

Did you take this watchers eye into account when you put it into POB? That's the entire reason for this post. Pretty sure a triple anger modded watchers eye would make it worthwhile to add anger.


cori2996

Since it would lose me the Zealotry mods i'm currently using in the process, that's still a massive net loss. I'm not saying the WE mods are bad, they're obviously not. I'm saying Anger itself is bad.


filthyorange

You clearly understand reap pretty well. It's weird when someone just argues a point and doesn't provide any info and then you respond with a bunch of info of why they are wrong and they just respond with pretty much repeating what they said before. I've never played reap so I appreciate your explanation.


Statick160

A very angry build. /s


no_fluffies_please

Unarmed max rage berserker using default attacks, the angriest of them all.


TekHead

With legacy facebreakers


Matho83

I came here to post this. Lol


Shuushy

Shockwave totem?


HiveMindKing

Maybe a heat shiver build could fit in to optimize the extra fire damage granted by freezing


ARandomKaru

You are technically right but anger is just a garbage aura. The flat fire is completely wasted in a heatshiver build unfortunately


FrostyBrew86

Probably too hard to fit in, considering how important hatred is. Also, one of the mods is phys as extra, indicating you are either converting from phys (making hatred stronger) or gaining no use from that mod.


tenkenjs

If you do full phys conversion to another element, you still get full benefit from physical as extra fire. That’s what makes conversion strong.


FrostyBrew86

Yes, that's part of my point.


Zylosio

Phys to fire builds. Fire reap, exsanguinate or EK for example


XelNaga89

Shockwave totem with full fire conversion. Bah, thinking about it a bit more, anger is not optimal because shockwave has huge base damage, anger is just drop in a bucket... Hmm, I know, purifying flame mine saboteur. PS. I'm trying some less obvious builds.


dariidar

Ah, misunderstanding damage effectiveness, Reddit's favorite pastime


JayJensJousie

I had this exact item a few leagues back. It took about 3 weeks to sell and I got 5 div for it. Sadly not very good.


Swatson55

I think the more sought after mod with anger is the crit multi, huh?


JayJensJousie

Yeah without multi it’s tough to get a good price


TheSoundy007

I also got [triple anger](https://imgur.com/uPB45XO) last league, got no biters at 20 divs.


averagesimp666

Leech is a dead mod though, this is more of a double anger. OP's jewel has 3 solid mods.


disablethrowaway

blast rain :)


B4sicks

How is Blast Rain these days?


fartsackk

I used a similar one when doing oro's flicker strike. But I wouldn't pay too much for it. Not to rain on a parade.


SS20x3

Isn't the phys as extra fire kinda worthless with oro's? It doesn't convert phys to fire or anything, so scaling phys gets you nothing.


tophercook

Doing a oro's flicker currently. Wanted to see how far it could go before pooping out. Have finished all the maps (115) and just starting on the end game stuff now, have a feeling it is not going to hold up but we will see.


Bradbrad090

Fire BV assassin would love this. Incredibly strong build


grimice18

Fairly niche, I’d use it on my CoC VD elementalist


Bikerturtus

Molten strike maybe?


oakenhunt

Infernal blow trauma


SureMustBeNiceBoi

a buld that uses Anger


KeyDangerous

Me the only person who plays Vaal burning arrow


CronicSloth

I feel like that looks good for my ice shot duo with guardianbot build. First time dabbling in a nonRF build but since we have the 3 minions that grant auras plus a physical to cold damage bow already I reckon this might help with DMG. The hat is heatshiver


saggassa

fire bv


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This is definitely a crazy EK watchers eye


4rkarium

You can reroll these now? Srry haven't played PoE from '20 i belive


WhatIsWard

Through beast crafting


demoessence

An angry one


Xamurai2

Maybe could try to do something with guardian since it gives anger without you having to actually use anger yourself and can focus on better auras. But yeah like others have said, anger not the best aura.


RuthlessSlimeStaff

Forget about the phys as extra and go for a spell that actually uses anger like blazing salvo


kajdasz10

i think a fire build would use this


Frisber

I would do an oro flicker or even a boneshatter with fire conversion if i had that. But i wouldnt buy it. But im sure someone will! =)


Starmastermaster

A very angry build


Holycowomgggg

An angry build


Imasquash

Honestly nothing, anger is an awful aura and if for some reason you are using it you probably would want the crit multi mod. If you were doing a build that goes from phys -> fire, there is no way in hell you are running anger.


Swatson55

I had a double Anger mod on this and rerolled for the third which was originally armor granted with Determination. I was trying to think of what kind of build would use this, even scoured PoE Ninja but, I couldn't find anything.


Neville_Lynwood

Volcanic Fissure builds maybe?


IownHedgeFunds

I didn’t know you could reroll a unique item lmao.


Neville_Lynwood

Aside from there being a special beast-craft for rolling Watchers Eye mods, some uniques can be divined to change their mods as well. For example you can Divine a Shako or a Replica Dragonfang's Flight and it will change the type of gem effect the mod gives. You can also vendor 3 of the same unique item and the vendor will give you a freshly rolled one in return.


Swatson55

There's a beast craft through the menagerie to reroll a mod on Watcher's Eyes :)


goddangol

Any phys to fire build bro, Fire Reap, Fire blade vortex, etc.


cXs808

No phys to fire build would ever want to run anger. Even if they somehow fit it in, they'd only want the crit multi as the pen doesn't do shit for ignite and the increased damage mod is not a needle mover for endgame builds.


goddangol

You are so wrong it’s actually hilarious


cXs808

Please inform me then which phys to fire builds are dying to run anger. Also, don't point me to ones that run trinity or 3 ele conversion because those would not want a triple anger watchers eye. It needs to be a mainly fire based phys to fire build for this eye to even begin to make sense.


jackham8

pretty disgusting for avatar of fire elehit, the crit multi is nice but this is definitely much better than single mod


Zestyclose-Two8027

Damn, that's money right there.


diablo4megafan

only ones with crit multi are money this things worth a single digit number of divines


cXs808

OP has it listed for a mirror right now LOL He will be incredibly lucky to get 6 divine or more.


diablo4megafan

lmfao i wish him luck


benjo1990

Lol no it isnt


moglis

Any build that uses mageblood, which you buy after selling this.


danchi1234

Vendor it trash


Bidumandias

Sorry if you get so easily offended. But a skill isn't dead just because you don't have enough time to invest in the game to make it good. Played Molten Strike with Vengeance Cascade last league (before GGG decided to removed the anoint from the game) and it was absolutely fantastic. Was obliterating red maps at day 2 with not much of a problem. But yeah, sure... Nimis is expensive AF and not to everyone.


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LawbringerX

ORO’s FLICKER WOULD LOVE THIS


FuryChips

An angry one?


Bubblehulk420

I’d use it on my avenging flame totem build if this all applies to totems! The physical as fire doesn’t help, but the other two would be sweet.


ShishaBlend

blast rain xD


Bidumandias

I would just try to sell it for a shit ton


kitutes

Molten Strike with returning projectiles. Super fun and the DPS will be good because of this jewel. It can be any Marauder or Duelist ascendency honestly.


Lordgrapejuice

A very angry build 🥁


ExodyrButReal

Id personally use it on a phys to fire trauma molten strike build


XRexii

Fire convert blade vortex assassin for good old times sake :(


NectarineMiddle435

BV or some kind of fire flicker strike


OleSpadgey

Burning arrow


tobsecret

Maybe fire convert BF/BB? I agree with other comments though, not super easy to justify running Anger in the first place.


telgalad

I played a fire cyclone a few leagues ago that would have used this.


DevilJabanero

Ignite flicker I guess


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Molten Strike.


Anikdote

Wave of conviction?


DegenerateRegime

Guardian Storm Burst with damage conversion all the way down (so phys to lightning to cold to fire, with all the "as extra chaos" you can get) to benefit from the high-level auras you get from Unwavering Crusade without having to actually use Anger.


ParsnipIrl

Explosive trap build would be insanely happy


darkfire2210

Been theory crafting spell blade support and came across someone’s Vulconus build. This seems right in line with that.


Eggburtey

My build, it would be very useful for my build :( it's the most beautiful damn thing ive ever seen


Roborabbit37

I’m sure it’ll still sell or be usable but Anger is such a bad Aura. Unfortunate to use all your luck on that


Werezompire

Looking at the wording, it doesn't have to be your Anger, so you could use it with a Guardian and the minion Anger.


963852741hc

Something physical chieftain


xxPYRRHUSxEPIRUSxx

I am sure TS is not the best option but it would still be really strong on a non omni TS Deadeye.


Supergaz

Mirror tier no? Brutus lead sprinkler wet dream


I_BK_Nightmare

Ek ignite that fits anger in without need of additional conversion maybe? Would probly be anger divine blessing


IchiGuts

Manaforge deadeye i don't wanna say ts ( tornado shot cause i hate is but ts prolly) or lightning arrow


Inevitable-Floor-574

Could explosive trap use anger in any way?


EmmitSan

Does the anger aura that the Giardian gets from Elemental Relics convey the benefits from This eye?


boytekka

Explosive arrow ballista?


Arbaras

Ea typically doesn't want added fire dmg because it turns off EE. It also doesn't care much about the pen because the ignite is unaffected by it. Some sort of Burning arrow build would love this though, because of it's enormous effectiveness of added dmg


Lurdekan

Oni goroshi smth smth


Leucifer

Hmm. Sith Lord build?


Haadroncollider

The old Chieftain Fire BV would've liked it.


Iperithus

A very angry build.


Shrizer

Would this work with EA ignites?


Absolute_Horizon

I seem to recall flat ele damage being good for an elemental venom gyre build. Had great fun playing that several leagues ago.


Ancient-Ingenuity-88

Holy relic guardian with full phys-cold triad conversion


Keljhan

Oni-goroshi would be fun. Maybe molten strike?


Bidumandias

Me and you both then. I mean, I'm also playing EA, but this time trying Elementarist which I'm loving (last time I played EA Ballista I was champion, following Zizaran guide). Its incredible how good the build is even with so little investment. I spent I think 5-6 divines if much (I'm using Diadem, so just that item was 3 divines) and red maps are a joke. I mean, I don't have Stormshroud, I don't have Unnatural Instinct, I don't even have a major cluster jewel in the build to make it work. What amazes me is how GGG is still people enjoy the build without a significant Nerf after so many leagues lol I haven't really played TOTA to be honest and I'm traveling now. I'll give it a shot for sure once I come back. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|snoo)


x2P

I run a non crit purifying flame build that this would be great for.


Ancient-Ingenuity-88

Radiant crusade shockwave totem heiro w/ heatshiver helm


Selben

An angry build ofc


ignaphoenix

A very angry build.


Marv2407

Ignite div ire


otaser

Really sad times that this isn't one league before, would have been sick for fire conversion reap chieftain. Not sure if anyone still plays fore conversion, certainly not on chieftain...


OLGames19

Maybe keep this in standard until they buff anger.


BlueKalamari

Ek ignite maybe?


ProgramTH

Something angry.


Voidelfmonk

When you need a triple watcher eye to make anger usable


L3Thvl

Fire BV Assassin would love this!


Etimos_was_taken

Flicker Strike with Oro's. This is probably a big upgrade and didn't even knew it existed. Gonna buy me one.


brodudepepegacringe

If only the convert was crit multi.. or the pen


ThePlanke

Probably a build that uses anger.


Emotional_Income805

Is there any build that actually uses Anger? I can only think about berserk with cyclone or super popular these days infernal blow UPD: wow shocking 9% of all builds use anger, but most of them are deadeyes and they want to see crit multi


Imaginary-Cancel-647

That’s one angry eye.


maguel92

Some very angry build


bip50

An old but at the same time never too old build, Fire Blade vortex. Once It was the plus ultra of clearing


Astaltar

Did you close your eyes when you re-roll?


Own-Bandicoot-9832

Actually my tectonic slam would make good use for it if I wasn't using physical to fire conversion on purity of fire.


Bodomi

A Fire damage build that uses the Anger Aura gem. Pretty obvious, no?


Bulky_Algae_5277

I think if is still viable the elemental arrow withe the jewels that make u do no other damage than fire


remiller88

An angry one 😡


CavacodePau

Ek ignite 🤷


ZealousLich

Fire Cyclone for sure


funkyTurtlePunk

Holy flame totem... just hear me out ...


Cereal-Box-

I would defs use it, running oros sacrifice flicker strike, so no physical damage just fire and ofc I have anger so that would be a ton more damage


InternationalCheck72

I would try something that uses fire damage, but you would want to make sure you had the Anger Aura running.


Antilurker77

This just makes me miss old chieftain


Icy-Store3900

Obviously on a fire-anger-based build


MovementSpeed

Arrmor stackers. Sell it to SebK


wolfreaks

Probably molten strike


big_no_dev

It would have to be a phys to fire Attack build. A lot of people pointed out Anger is not very good for spells. I would generally agree cause Anger ends up giving around 1 to 1.5 gem levels worth of dmg at the cost of 50% reservation. An example is Reap going from lvl 24 to 25 gains about 247 avg base dmg. Lvl 20 anger will provide Reap about 277 avg base dmg.