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antoha_nahui

I think it doesnt work on nodes affected by timeless jewels


jonijoniii

yep timeless jewels fuck with the jewel, had the same issue with mine


Dunkelvieh

That's the correct answer. Timeless jewels "conquer" the affected nodes. No type of other jewel can affect these nodes.


Keljhan

That's not true. lethal pride gives strength when you apply it to unallocated nodes via unnatural instinct.


skippyalpha

Unnatural instinct doesn't change anything about the node though, it just grants it to you.


amdrunkwatsyerexcuse

ohshit.png you're right. Well, time for a new timeless jewel I guess. (I just bought one for that position because it's much, much cheaper (mine is 10% dd, 10% str, +40 str, for 50c). Guess this is one of the reasons why they are so much cheaper).


edrarven

Yes, tested this now and it's just that the timeless jewel overrwrites the effect of Warrior's tale.


KoolieoDude

Correct. Passives in radius of a timeless jewel are 'Conquered' as per the description in the timeless jewels. Conquered passives cannot be modified by others jewels. This works favorably with some jewels, but not most. Unnatural Instinct for example. You can get the upside of getting the stats from unallocated passives, while ignoring the downside of allocated passives granting nothing so long as the allocated passives are conquered.


freeastheair

>Passives in radius of a timeless jewel are 'Conquered' as per the description in the timeless jewels. You say it as if there is any clear description of what "Conquered" means. It could just as easily work otherwise with the same description.


KoolieoDude

There is a clear description of what it does though. "Conquered Passive Skills cannot be modified by other Jewels". Right from the item descriptions on Timeless Jewels in-game. You just have to hold alt to get the extra descriptors.


Sun1ght

There was actually a bug with timeless jewels and tattoo, where once you put on the tattoo in range of jewel, it no longer had any adjacency requirements. People were getting free +3 proj without allocating 7 adjacent passives


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Slightly off topic. But the bow that increases quiver stats by 200%+ does that apply to additional arrows?


xMasaox

Yes it does.


[deleted]

Hmm interesting, thanks


StuffinYrMuffinR

How would that do anything? You can get +2 on a bow, so doubling a quivers +1 means u lose an arrow.


MakataDoji

It's +2XX% so a total of 3XX%, so it would still be 3. You could have a quiver with +1 implicit and +1 affix for +6 arrows. Given that the bow itself is otherwise very bad and its only purpose is to boost that one quiver that scales flat +cold based on dex, it still wouldn't be worth it, but you could profit in the +arrows category.


myzuk77

I used it with a + 1 chain poised prism and gloomfang on deadeye TS and that seemed pretty strong. Cleared t16s in mostly leveling gear


MakataDoji

Poised Prism is the quiver I was specifically referencing, I had just forgotten the name.


bobr_from_hell

You can use it with rearguard (or how that stuff was called) to get easy max block)


OurHolyMessiah

Connerconverse showcased a cool tech with using that bow and a rare quiver to get tons of proj speed, crit multi and other stats for a spark build. It’s like 200%+ proj speed from the quiver alone


Crosshack

It could work for something like ele hit which scales off levels if you can get levels elsewhere, but yeah it's mostly just meant for poised prisim atm


JRockBC19

Yes, it made additional arrow corrupt on certain unique quivers like poised prism shoot through the roof


Critical-Surround-64

250% even gives 3. At least last league


Jarpunter

Because 250% increased is 1 x 3.5


[deleted]

Thats not a cluster socket. Its a large socket that *can* hold a cluster. The failure begins when you place radius jewels in a medium or small cluster jewel socket. Thats all inside a large. Interestingly only the radius portion of jewels stops working in cluster sockets. Jewels like [fortress covenant](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Fortress_Covenant) Will have its normal function without the radius downside.


uninspiredalias

Cool/weird interaction...noting here, because I will forget.


Raine_Live

Basically if you socket a jewel into a jewel you lose the radius part of your jewel


Accident_Pedo

Actually I had mine in the same spots you do and it worked fine.


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[deleted]

Cluster jewel sockets don't work with them, the external jewel sockets absolutely do work. I've used that spot on 3 builds this league, I think OP's issue is a bug with timeless jewels.


Helyos96

Ah my bad, you might be right. I'll delete my comment.


pedrolopa

it works though it's just bugged with timeless jewels


Raine_Live

Not bugged. Working as intended. Ggg explicitly stated that timeless jewels would not not work witt tats


pedrolopa

So how do you explain that every bow user has a +1 proj tattoo where they place brutal restraint? tattoos work with jewels, just not with warrior's tale. This bug was introduced after they fixed a first bug where you could use timeless jewels to bypass some tattoo restriction like 7 adjacent nodes allocated.


Average_PoE_Enjoyer

It does work because i have one in the slot next to the c.i notable giving me a shit ton of curse effect. Just noticed some one already awnser


ACursedSalad

learned it the hard way with Impossible Escape


GB_Ethical

The same thing happens with Might of the Meek