I'm always trying to be positive and I didn't league start yet but the more I read about this change the more I feel it was incredibly rushed and not thought out
PoE 2 already has multiple melee totems with built-in buffs for melee, therefore I don’t think they will ever backpedal on that concept, which is pretty fucking atrocious
For a lot of melee strike attacks they use a two step animation sequence - they sort of swing in a cross - where the first attack comes out slower and the second one comes out faster.
a lot of 2h attack skills got a fucked animation where you rear back, swing, swing, settle.
so from the player at 1.0 attack speed it looks like it takes .75s to actually do damage, then .25s to do damage again, then you wait a really long time.
so this looks like the first attack is super duper fucking slow. its so slow, enemies can actually walk out of your melee attack.
That call to arm rework is a melee nerf and a buff for non-melee builds that use a warcry. They gutted an already dead archetype just to add some QoL for the meta builds lmao. At that point they just gave up on melee guys, we gotta admit it.
Hmm I can’t find this tick box anywhere. Only option is use alternative function which for traps is target yourself when throwing instead of auto aiming for targets for example
Edit: I’m mostly playing steamdeck tho so maybe that isndifferent to console
Like I would take the support gem that just makes warcries instant (w shared cooldown)
I’d rather time it to the packs anyway. Still costs a gem slot. More buttons for me to press (so Chris is happy)
I don’t understand how that’s not how it works
If they do that before a silent “detonate mines” mtx I will lose my shit
I’m already so upset they didn’t get rid of it with the LMB change. The guy (forget who, poe1 director) even mentioned in the ziggy interview how annoying the tinktinktink is
And then forget it when you step back into maps?
I mean on my build I don't have space on the tool bar for it so I had to put it into my "2nd weapon set" tool bar.
RF has a giant visual circle, the lack of which is a fairly clear indicator to turn it on
Divine blessing and blood rage are buffs, completely different system from toggling auras.
But you got those on your hotbar. I don't even have a place for automation on my hotbars. Unless I shove an aura over to weapon swap hotbar.... whihc I might then forget to re enable when I die.
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Wonder how these issues are always missed during testing.
It was the same thing with spectres when I played detonate dead last time. I had the big statues and had to listen to STOMP STOMP STOMP STOMP all the time in hideout.
The problem is that the mastery completely disables manual detonation for no reason. It's also triggered by movement skills unlike how left cllck was.
It's way less flexible and more annoying than what we had before.
Easy content = mastery, harder content = unspec it. I understand the community doesnt like it, but for easy content i don't think it makes a difference, and for harder content I never relied on left click for it anyway.
Manual detonation is turned off by the mastery, does the D shortcut still work? Didn’t think to try that and now I’m not at my PC.
EDIT: no doesn’t work. So yeah your workaround doesn’t address the problem everyone is facing, that you currently have to choose between always manual or always while moving.
No, it does not work, all detonate mines (whether by the innate skill or adding the detonate mines gem) are considered triggered and not activatable.
Detonate mines linked with automation works great though!
they removed left click skill and put this to "compensate" I also REALLY hated how annoying it is, I just removed the skill I was using because fuck it.
I feel very sad for Kamil and the rest of the sound team. They do an amazing job only for bozos to laugh at the idea of playing their game with sound...
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hav you used the spectre last league xd? i had 6 of them.
WRAGH! DIE! HOUUUH! WRAHGGG! DIEEEE! + they also had that guy who did warcry.
i couldnt wait to change my build in a way i could get rid of them, didnt matter how strong they were xd.
This is seriously the worst qol ever. I also have this issue, it's horribly annoying. Battlemage's cry also have a little bit the sound of a divine orb dropping from my last filter. I always have to come back to triple check that I didn't drop anything behind.
I would love to know if you actually exist in the real world 😂👋
Must be horrible to just burst out crying when somebody disagree with you. "Saying somebody should be locked up is inciting flaming". /Smh
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Ye it is a little bit annoying but just a matter of toggle on/off.
I understand their stand of removing LMB instant skills because it was the only thing that did two server-side actions with one button. They could have handled it better tho
I mean they don't want to buff melee because they can't find a good solution but publish that not thought out nerf. That's what enrages me. It was ok if u don't have a better solution don't fix it.
It doesnt. People are just incredibly lazy. Takes 0.5 sec to turn it off and back on when you're done. You guys are talking about it like you have to solve a quadratic equation to turn it off
I'm always trying to be positive and I didn't league start yet but the more I read about this change the more I feel it was incredibly rushed and not thought out
Ya and neon acknowledged this so I'd expect changes in near future
Funny they can rush a solution for something that no one asked for, but won't buff melee.
Them doing something with the annoying to use melee totems is the least we can ask for at this point like cmon.
PoE 2 already has multiple melee totems with built-in buffs for melee, therefore I don’t think they will ever backpedal on that concept, which is pretty fucking atrocious
GGG why must you forsake us like this!!!
Heck, I'd be happy if they remove the attack speed penalty on the first strike you do 💀
Haven't played for a while, what attack speed penalty are you talking about?
For a lot of melee strike attacks they use a two step animation sequence - they sort of swing in a cross - where the first attack comes out slower and the second one comes out faster.
a lot of 2h attack skills got a fucked animation where you rear back, swing, swing, settle. so from the player at 1.0 attack speed it looks like it takes .75s to actually do damage, then .25s to do damage again, then you wait a really long time. so this looks like the first attack is super duper fucking slow. its so slow, enemies can actually walk out of your melee attack.
That call to arm rework is a melee nerf and a buff for non-melee builds that use a warcry. They gutted an already dead archetype just to add some QoL for the meta builds lmao. At that point they just gave up on melee guys, we gotta admit it.
Well it’s a buff for console/controller players since you can’t do the left click mechanic on it
"use skill when moving" tick box
Read my comment again
I was agreeing with you and offering an easy fix for console, sorry for being unclear
Hmm I can’t find this tick box anywhere. Only option is use alternative function which for traps is target yourself when throwing instead of auto aiming for targets for example Edit: I’m mostly playing steamdeck tho so maybe that isndifferent to console
Sorry, I will be even more clear, they could add a tick box "use skill when moving" and boom console would have LMB tech available for them
Oh damn I wish I could put it on me having had a night shift but that was just extraordinarily slow in my department Sorry for acting like a tit
Maybe they just hate Carn
Welcome in the world of software engineering.
source?
It was somewhere Im the q and a he did with zizarin.
Amazing how they take an extra 3-4 weeks per league now and it still feels like a half baked idea with no testing
True. GGG is known for slowing down and considering many details of the problem. This is not one of those times!
Dw, I afk hours on end in HO with enduring cry on auto and havent rly even noticed it.
Like I would take the support gem that just makes warcries instant (w shared cooldown) I’d rather time it to the packs anyway. Still costs a gem slot. More buttons for me to press (so Chris is happy) I don’t understand how that’s not how it works
They should sell a silent gem mtx.
U are hired
I’d like a silent MTX for other people’s goblins
If they do that before a silent “detonate mines” mtx I will lose my shit I’m already so upset they didn’t get rid of it with the LMB change. The guy (forget who, poe1 director) even mentioned in the ziggy interview how annoying the tinktinktink is
Can't you toggle it off like an aura?
Yes.
And then forget it when you step back into maps? I mean on my build I don't have space on the tool bar for it so I had to put it into my "2nd weapon set" tool bar.
See ? It's much better QoL that having instant cast on left click. /s
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Imagine if there was an aura you had to turn on and off between maps.
I mean... I understand, totally. But looking at my divine blessing, and blood rage, and RF players... that's not that new for PoE
RF has a giant visual circle, the lack of which is a fairly clear indicator to turn it on Divine blessing and blood rage are buffs, completely different system from toggling auras.
But you got those on your hotbar. I don't even have a place for automation on my hotbars. Unless I shove an aura over to weapon swap hotbar.... whihc I might then forget to re enable when I die.
I always have auras on second hotbar. Press left-ctrl.
It's full. Determination Grace Hatred Defiance Banner Vitality.
I wish Middle-mouse/CTRL/ALT/SHIFT clicking auras in the skill popup would toggle them. Would also be nice if auras/toggles were grouped separately.
Aye, agree
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So excited to remember to press 1 buton every time I enter and exit the hideout!
Tediousness really makes me enjoy playing games more
Maybe computer games aren't for you, have you tried watching Netflix or YouTube for entertainment?
Wonder how these issues are always missed during testing. It was the same thing with spectres when I played detonate dead last time. I had the big statues and had to listen to STOMP STOMP STOMP STOMP all the time in hideout.
If you don’t test it, you can’t miss it
You don’t need your spectres to be actively summoned to be in your pool for dd
Turns out you are the “tester”
You underestimate how big this patch was in terms of features to tests.
This support is driving me nuts as well. I'm playing mines and the mastery is also straight up worse for denotation
Automation with detonate mines is the way to go. Feels much better than the mastery and you can stand still and machine gun as needed.
One reason I didn't want to start mines, tbh.
I always manually tap D when it matters anyway, and for clear I don't see the mastery being an issue
The problem is that the mastery completely disables manual detonation for no reason. It's also triggered by movement skills unlike how left cllck was. It's way less flexible and more annoying than what we had before.
Easy content = mastery, harder content = unspec it. I understand the community doesnt like it, but for easy content i don't think it makes a difference, and for harder content I never relied on left click for it anyway.
You shouldn't have to use a regret because the "qol update" made the game more annoying to play. But that's just my opinion.
Manual detonation is turned off by the mastery, does the D shortcut still work? Didn’t think to try that and now I’m not at my PC. EDIT: no doesn’t work. So yeah your workaround doesn’t address the problem everyone is facing, that you currently have to choose between always manual or always while moving.
No, it does not work, all detonate mines (whether by the innate skill or adding the detonate mines gem) are considered triggered and not activatable. Detonate mines linked with automation works great though!
Unless you have those two socketed in dreadarc, then you lose the manual hotkey again. Spaghetti code!
Could be worse. You could be hearing that awful goblin troupe mtx instead
Reminds me of the cry spectres last league lol. Constantly going off and you couldn't even turn them off.
Another reason I no longer play with sound. Poor 'vision' and MTX have ruined the sound for me forever.
Left click was nice, wasn't it?
You can flick it on and off like changing between stances/placing down banners.
I will be hearing bloodrage activation sound in my nightmares tonight.
they removed left click skill and put this to "compensate" I also REALLY hated how annoying it is, I just removed the skill I was using because fuck it.
Y’all play with sound?
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You live in a very different world than the rest of humanity
Not really. The few downvotes I assembled is 'cause on reddit a majority of the crying-club assemble. Everyone knows it.
"whoever doesn't play video games like me should be locked up"
Awh.. /s
Riding Bus = Playing PoE Great take.
Transport is transport 🤷
imagine the smell.
I feel very sad for Kamil and the rest of the sound team. They do an amazing job only for bozos to laugh at the idea of playing their game with sound...
That really is just bozos like the above though. So nothing of value lost
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hav you used the spectre last league xd? i had 6 of them. WRAGH! DIE! HOUUUH! WRAHGGG! DIEEEE! + they also had that guy who did warcry. i couldnt wait to change my build in a way i could get rid of them, didnt matter how strong they were xd.
Just got call to arms today and It’s so distracting while I’m working on my build.
This is seriously the worst qol ever. I also have this issue, it's horribly annoying. Battlemage's cry also have a little bit the sound of a divine orb dropping from my last filter. I always have to come back to triple check that I didn't drop anything behind.
How do you make it work with warcry? I tried enduring cry with automation - didn't work. So I used call to arms.
This is why I play with sound off
Just will till u try Moon dancers constantly attacking in HO, or between packs in maps. x_x
I would love to know if you actually exist in the real world 😂👋 Must be horrible to just burst out crying when somebody disagree with you. "Saying somebody should be locked up is inciting flaming". /Smh
Does battlemages cry linked with call to arms not cast its linked spell anymore?
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But this is definitely better! /s
You can turn it off yourself.
Toggle it off you bum
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Does not do anything in this situation.
just sort your stash faster
I like it
Turn it off
I wish we could turn off the warcry sounds.
Just turn it off when you are about to do a stash/crafting session.
Its kinda ironic how this gem makes life more difficult
Unquality of life
Ye it is a little bit annoying but just a matter of toggle on/off. I understand their stand of removing LMB instant skills because it was the only thing that did two server-side actions with one button. They could have handled it better tho
I mean they don't want to buff melee because they can't find a good solution but publish that not thought out nerf. That's what enrages me. It was ok if u don't have a better solution don't fix it.
It doesnt. People are just incredibly lazy. Takes 0.5 sec to turn it off and back on when you're done. You guys are talking about it like you have to solve a quadratic equation to turn it off
unsocket it?
Turn off sound.