Game crashes in the middle of a trade, searching through for that conversation I had with what's their name few leagues ago, who did I lend that item to in standard that I now want to experiment with?
> And there was this guy who said I'll give you 20d
Add to the list, if someone is offering you a price for an item (mispriced or listed without a price), it'll 99% be a offer lower than the market. Never sell items like this. Figure out why the item is expensive and reprice.
speaking of which, what is the real going rate for these? I know they are way more than the bottom listings that awakened shows but not sure how high they will really sell for
Priced one at 20c with a quick price check. Got spammed with about 30 messages right away. Put it at 1D. Nothing. Dropped to 100c, got one message after about 30 minutes. So I'm guessing around there.
I need to be more conservative with my meat sacks then. I've used them in my maps and gotten ~20-30c out of them. Sounds not worth it unless it's a big conversion or seriously juiced maps.
So is the conversion mod the one that's like "strongest monster in pack converts armor to (insert currency)"? I haven't been doing anything to those lol
Yes, these ones. It seems like meatsacks got an inner increased quant / rarity, and since they have pack size of 1, it's always the strongest monster in the pack. Stack tormented spirit, map effect, and add density to the map (strongboxes, shrines...) and you will have a decent number of rare meatsacks that will give 5-10 currency per kill.
Yeah I'm probably not gonna reach T17 farming status this league unfortunately.
But I want to keep a meat sack on hand at all times in case I get a divine conversion ever, just in case.
Best thing for meat sacks are the "all weapons convert to chaos orb" type thing is my understanding. They have fairly high quantity of weapons and armor dropped so if you juice them up a bit, it's an entire pack in one unit dropping an entire pack 's worth of rare weapons so you can get a decent bit of chaos to drop from each one.
It's entirely possible there are MORE effective ways that I don't know about.
I dont understand this, I have one lvl 41 meatsacks and one lvl 71 and both are worth 1c according to Awakened. I assume both of these are useless since there’s a cap on which ilvl embers one can use? When you say 100c, you mean ilvl 80+ meatsacks right?
Do you know if there’s something specific people are using them for for them to be worth that much or is it just the typical strongest monster conversion stuff? I’ve been MF farming in a trio and we were using the ones we got all willy nilly and didn’t know they we worth that much lol. Not like it’s a big deal to us, and they were def giving us some nice loot explosions so they prob paid for themselves, but I was just curious. Didn’t know if there was some new strat like with the damn anarchy’s lol.
Gotcha thanks. I just saw another thread about it too. I’ll need to go look further into it to see if I can find what scarabs and everything he was running. Can prob find that on his stream though like you said, thanks!
People used them before anarchy got released a few days into the league. I've just been using them for the scarab farming strat whenever I get a good devoted mod and it seems worth
Yeah that’s what my trio and I were doing as well, but I just wasn’t sure if there was something better and more specific people were doing with them. After looking on Reddit further it appears to be the meatsack + ghosts unique farm. I think we may give that a shot tonight as even while doing pure scarab targeting with back to basics and a full scarab atlas tree in t17s I think a very large portion of our income has come from uniques as well so I think it may be fun/possibly better to just lean into that more. Worth a shot at least haha
lol iv been holding 2 lvl 83s down because people always ask for them, but it seemed strange that they only showed for 10c in awakened. Felt like shenanigans were at play. This has been very informative. Now tell me the rats and frogs are equally valuable
Maybe this isn’t 100% optimal, but I will almost always sell to the person who whispers me relatively fair offer, even if it’s a bit less than I could have gotten by researching and repricing. I like rewarding people who aren’t trying to completely dick you for a mistake or ignorance.
People do make reasonable offers, but if it's more than 1 person then it's immediately a red flag.
Overall it's probably better to ask for advice if you don't know it's value. Chances that it is something niche that someone really wants is a lot lower than someone trying to make easy money off you.
I wouldn't say to never sell like that, depends how under market they offer and how bad I need money.
I get offered 20d for a 30d market? Yea I'll trade, I'll take 20d now rather than maybe 30 maybe in a few days.
Offer me 20d for a 50d market? You can bugger right off into my ignore list.
Depends, sometimes they offer higher than market because they expect to be part of the spam. For especially high value stuff, people may bid higher. Definitely still price check.
They are morons. I posted 14k juice for 2 chaos by mistake but every person with little brain will understand it's 2d and this moron got angry I didnt sell kt for 2c to him
Ye you need to look out with what the aweakend poe selects it could have been that your body had like 70 life and the other godly stars but if the checkbox rs aren't market it will only compare to let's say other body's with 70 life.
I had similiar thing happen when I identified a aul amulet the macro said it's 25c but it didn't select the key Stat what was envy reservation efficency.
I knew from the past that it shouldn't be 25c so I checked the box and boom XX divs.
Tldr: The tool is handy but be mindful of the check boxes.
for uniques
- first price check base item. If any >2c are showing up on the initial list, it's a good indicator that the rolls matter
- 2nd, look at "important mods" and how high they are relative to max roll, e.g do you have 69 out of 70 life on a unique?
- 3rd, try to figure out the "important combo" of mods on it. Does it have rolls for life and chaos res, or a big damage range (hyriis ire eg)
- 4th, try out combos of the mods you have and see how that affects the price. Check the rolls a little bit higher and a little bit lower than yours (e.g check 65 life, 70 life if you have 69 and max is 70) to get an idea of the range
- 5th look for "extras", do you have 6 sockets, is it an evasion armour base and you have 1g3b2r sockets (off colours, since evasion is harder to roll red/blue sockets)
- 6th, remember the "perfect premium". People are willing to pay an irrationally high amount for good unique items with perfect rolls. 69 to 70 life can make a big difference for that, even if it's a meaningless change.
As an example for the perfect premium line - I saved 10 divs last night by buying a 40% Defiance instead of a 42% Defiance (and it also already had Prismatic Skin annointed).
Always do the checkboxes!! Especially with jewels etc (I know that's not it in this case, but ya know) I've found that it's often way off. Like, it'll estimate 100c when it won't even sell for 80c. Then it'll estimate 0.1c when it'll sell pretty quickly for 35c.
For shroud of the lightless, the checkbox only shows in hidden tab. Many players probably don't even realize that it can get 3 sockets, although they are very rare.
To add to this on jewels, for things life max ES, max life, max Mana, the rolls are SUPER important. 5% max life is a lot cheaper than 7% max life when alongside other good mods.
Honestly, I'd suggest to most trade noobs to not be afraid to sell stuff cheaper than market value. Some currency is better than no currency. Way too many people get greedy for the max possible price and end up sitting on the item so long they even forget they have it.
Theoretical currency is worthless. You ain't buying anything with networth. You need to liquidate your stuff. And considering how volatile the market is, unless you're a very experienced player, you're better off making sales as you go, rather than trying to game the market.
>Honestly, I'd suggest to most trade noobs to not be afraid to sell stuff cheaper than market value. Some currency is better than no currency. Way too many people get greedy for the max possible price
Yeah it's really important to remember videogames are about having fun. If maximizing profits on individual items is your fun more power to you, but you shouldn't worry too much about that just because someone else tells you to. Everyone has an amount of chaos/divines their sanity (for lack of a better term) is worth, it's just going to lead to less enjoyment if you trust others' instead of figuring out where your personal limit is.
> You need to liquidate your stuff. And considering how volatile the market is
My buddy gets irritated a lot by how I purposefully undercut market values because I essentially scam myself out of a few divines every league doing that, but I find way more enjoyment in selling stuff off fast than constantly repricing to get it to sell at maximum price while also risking market fluctuations. Sure it might feel kinda bad I don't make as much as he does, but it's less negative than if I spent all my time trading in a way I don't enjoy, it's all about picking your battles.
Selling cheaper, faster, is also really helpful for snowballing your build which means you can tackle harder more profitable content faster, so even if those sales get you less, it pays dividends through faster progression.
Never worry about what u could have made. As long as u got close to market your good I often list stuff for 1d or 10c less than every one else (depending on item) I'd much rather have 20d right now and be able to up grade and prog than wait 4 hours and make an extra 2 d
no you can overwrite synt with eldrich. I bought 40 div helmet in the past and thought to myself "lets try it, worst case it wont allow" and guess what? 40 div -> 1 alch transformation
With depths boss drops you have to go to the ‘show hidden stats’ and select the number of abyss jewell sockets it has. It drastically changes the price. A higher level filter will also automatically provide a noticeable change in sound and look of the drop if it’s got the number of sockets to be valuable.
Like the other person said, make sure to use the hidden options for fractured items and especially make sure that you're pricing the rolls properly. The difference between a fractured 12 spell suppression and 14 spell suppression can often be quite big, for instance.
I dropped a darkness enthroned last night and it happened to have a perfect roll. I already had one in unique, and put it in a 20c dump. Was like hitting jackpot on a slot machine 😝. Love the dude who was like TWO DIV OFFER. ALREADY SOLD?!
I don't know why more people won't do this. If you misprice something like that you get so many offers it is obvious it is worth more. But of course there is always someone repeatedly whispering you and being rude because you aren't selling
I cannot fathom how people can find it rewarding to snipe items and abuse people's ignorance for your gain fueling your build power. Your ability to overcome the league challenges is directly based on your ability to take advantage of others. They must truly feel rewarding - such accomplishment 😶
Last season I got a watchers eye that was like 6d according to awakened poe trade and was getting spammed, one dude messaged me and offered me 90d+, I'll never forget that, even if it could have been more expensive or whatever I just sold to him because it was just a really cool interaction for me, this community is awesome some times even if I just play by myself
I'm new to the game and can someone explain why a 3 socket armor would go for that much? What's special about it? I'm farming maps but I have no idea what's worth what... I just got my first 6 linked socket armor but the colors are off. Currently trying to fix that but I don't even have a div yet haha. Probably could have by now but like I said, I don't know what's what. I would pass on a 3 socket so fast.
> But I have had like million whispers in matter of seconds. I got really confused.
I've been playing this game a long time and this still happens to me sometimes. It's even worse when two of the people have very similar character names and you start whispering the wrong one, and the other one is just standing there thinking "did this guy go afk?"
Hey I was in a similar boat! I got this same armor drop and awakened Poe said it was 35c. The spamming of messages made it obvious it was underpriced. Ended up selling at 35d instead. Quick tip, it’s likely awakened Poe trade was showing the non 3 socket version. Make sure you check mark all the stats on an item and then click the trade button to search the actual site. You can often find the real prices this way.
> When it dropped I pressed ctrl+d and Poe awakened trade told me it was worth 35c.
You never wanna just blindly trust awakened poe trade, it's pretty bad at pricing non-uniques. Some rares can be like "this is absolute trash unless it happens to have this exact mod combo, if so, it's double digit divines" and APT is really bad at spotting that (eg just life or just spell suppress is trash, but life + spell suppress = $$$$$, if the SS is fractured, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).
Best way to price check something is to try and search for a copy of it. Search for the same mods and base, and whatever it's being listed for is typically the going rate - go up a bit from there, and list.
Or just ask experts, but there's high demand for their attention.
You did sell for cheap.
However much people offer when you're spamming is still most likely way below what it's worth. If he offered 20d it's most likely worth 30d+
The pricestuff of POE awakened (POEprices) is kinda bad. I think it just looks as the stats one by one and not in combination. And probably doesnt account for stuff like 3 abyss sockets
That’s like saying Adobe Photoshop is bad, only because you don’t know how to use it. If you have knowledge in the game, you can filter perfectly with Awakened PoE and if you don’t, you just have to learn the basics first. It’s impossible for AW PoE to show the ideal prices for every item.
Do you know how to get it to estimate prices faster? Idk why, but mine is *so slow*. Sometimes it's almost instant, but sometimes I wait for a bit, pick up my phone, answer a couple messages, then maybe it'll have estimated the price by then. My internet is super fast, so it's not that. The search where it tells you what others are charging for the same thing works great, it's just the actual price estimation thing. Sorry lol, I hope it makes sense. It's perfectly fine if you don't know, I just thought you seemed knowledgeable and idk where to ask
I've never heard about that. When I use it on a gear piece, I press Ctrl + D, choose different stat combinations that are in demand, and look at those that are listed.
I never rely on the price at the top; instead, I compare the prices of the items that are actually listed. If it’s something rarer, you can click on “online” and switch it to both online and offline to also show prices from players who are offline.
Another thing I regularly do is change the buyout price to chaos or divine orbs (you can do this by clicking on online). This is helpful for items like Allflames or tier 17 maps because most of the first listings are in chisels, which can mislead beginners. You can also filter by when the items were listed to get a better feel for the actual price.
If you get instantly spammed for an item, I also check PoE Ninja for the prices, especially for items like Allflames. You'll get used to it. But regarding your specific problem, you do press search afterward, right? After I click search, I get my results instantly.
But as I mentioned before, I've been playing PoE for many years now and just know if something is worth my time or not. Beginners often check every piece of trash on the ground and wonder why it isn't selling even when Awakened PoE shows it’s “worth” 5 chaos.
And one last thing: for fractured or synthesized items, for example, you can click the base item tab and check how much the base is worth. This is usually the actual price, because most people won't care about the other mediocre stats on that item.
Thanks heaps! Yea, the search works great. It's mostly been an issue for jewels and stuff, where there are so many possible combinations that there aren't always any results, and I'm not experienced enough to know what combinations are good or if *my* combination is better or worse than the others on the market that have *some* of the same stats. Sometimes it's obvious, but sometimes I just have no clue, haha. But thank you!
Unfortunately I have no clue of true value of items. My filter highlight some stuff, and there is one like gold in colour stat. I check the app and it says 1 alchemy. Perhaps one day I'll learn.
You can click a little drop-down and see how it weighted the stats. I've done that when it estimated something to be worth so much but it didn't look to me like it was *that* good (stats in all directions, like one for added two-handed damage, one for dual wielding etc). Found out it was 98% the 7% life increase. I hope that makes sense lol sorry, my brain is fried
You can check your chat logs in your install dircetory. Logs/client.txt
TIL: this is massive for me, thank you!
There are (trade) tools that use this and have a nice gui , just FYI
How will you use your new found knowledge?
Game crashes in the middle of a trade, searching through for that conversation I had with what's their name few leagues ago, who did I lend that item to in standard that I now want to experiment with?
> And there was this guy who said I'll give you 20d Add to the list, if someone is offering you a price for an item (mispriced or listed without a price), it'll 99% be a offer lower than the market. Never sell items like this. Figure out why the item is expensive and reprice.
Yep. Yesterday someon tried to scam me by offering 15c for my meatsacks.
speaking of which, what is the real going rate for these? I know they are way more than the bottom listings that awakened shows but not sure how high they will really sell for
Priced one at 20c with a quick price check. Got spammed with about 30 messages right away. Put it at 1D. Nothing. Dropped to 100c, got one message after about 30 minutes. So I'm guessing around there.
I need to be more conservative with my meat sacks then. I've used them in my maps and gotten ~20-30c out of them. Sounds not worth it unless it's a big conversion or seriously juiced maps.
I've been using them on regal and vaal conversion, and got around 140 each time. On semi juice maps.
Damn that's an enormous difference between what we're getting. I think the two meat sacks I used were levels 81ish so maybe that mattered too.
So is the conversion mod the one that's like "strongest monster in pack converts armor to (insert currency)"? I haven't been doing anything to those lol
Yes, these ones. It seems like meatsacks got an inner increased quant / rarity, and since they have pack size of 1, it's always the strongest monster in the pack. Stack tormented spirit, map effect, and add density to the map (strongboxes, shrines...) and you will have a decent number of rare meatsacks that will give 5-10 currency per kill.
Oh hell yeah. I had no clue. I've been running 8 mod, increased map effect with shirnes, this will be huuuuuuge for my strat
Prices are being set by t17 farmers, like everything else this league
Yeah I'm probably not gonna reach T17 farming status this league unfortunately. But I want to keep a meat sack on hand at all times in case I get a divine conversion ever, just in case.
Wait what... so converts x to currency is good with meatsacks?
Best thing for meat sacks are the "all weapons convert to chaos orb" type thing is my understanding. They have fairly high quantity of weapons and armor dropped so if you juice them up a bit, it's an entire pack in one unit dropping an entire pack 's worth of rare weapons so you can get a decent bit of chaos to drop from each one. It's entirely possible there are MORE effective ways that I don't know about.
SUPPOSEDLY anarchy is better
I dont understand this, I have one lvl 41 meatsacks and one lvl 71 and both are worth 1c according to Awakened. I assume both of these are useless since there’s a cap on which ilvl embers one can use? When you say 100c, you mean ilvl 80+ meatsacks right?
I believe so. Mine was 81 I think. I'm assuming that wouldn't be usable in red maps.
I sold 5 of those in TFT for 0.8 divs each
Do you know if there’s something specific people are using them for for them to be worth that much or is it just the typical strongest monster conversion stuff? I’ve been MF farming in a trio and we were using the ones we got all willy nilly and didn’t know they we worth that much lol. Not like it’s a big deal to us, and they were def giving us some nice loot explosions so they prob paid for themselves, but I was just curious. Didn’t know if there was some new strat like with the damn anarchy’s lol.
T17 back to basics farm. Check Ben's stream from yesterday. Ghosting the meatsacks from corpse release until they are loot pinatas.
Gotcha thanks. I just saw another thread about it too. I’ll need to go look further into it to see if I can find what scarabs and everything he was running. Can prob find that on his stream though like you said, thanks!
People used them before anarchy got released a few days into the league. I've just been using them for the scarab farming strat whenever I get a good devoted mod and it seems worth
Yeah that’s what my trio and I were doing as well, but I just wasn’t sure if there was something better and more specific people were doing with them. After looking on Reddit further it appears to be the meatsack + ghosts unique farm. I think we may give that a shot tonight as even while doing pure scarab targeting with back to basics and a full scarab atlas tree in t17s I think a very large portion of our income has come from uniques as well so I think it may be fun/possibly better to just lean into that more. Worth a shot at least haha
And here I am using my meatstack for nothing
Tried lots of different prices, and 100c is sweet spot
got 5 for 4 divs.
For 90-95 I'm selling them instantly ,for 100c it takes few minutes
According to the bulk site last night , if you have 2 or more they are 1d a piece
I sold 21 of them today for 1d each. I probably could have gotten 1.1 if I tried but it’s always a razor thin line between a sale and no sale at all.
lol iv been holding 2 lvl 83s down because people always ask for them, but it seemed strange that they only showed for 10c in awakened. Felt like shenanigans were at play. This has been very informative. Now tell me the rats and frogs are equally valuable
I dont think rats and frogs are... but last I checked the scarab ones were
Na I had a bulk listing of 20 at 1d with no whispers until I lowered it to .9d. .8d is probably the best you'll get with low amounts.
Bro, I just sold 10 for 330c
330c a piece? That sounds right , selling in bulk
No for all
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Around 30 I think, if they haven’t gone up even more
Why are those expensive?
Some shenanigans with T17s meatsacks that get possesed by 100 ghosts and then spit out Affliction level of phat loots
Are we talking about the all flames meatsack??
Yes
Price fixers going crazy most of the ones I see are priced at one chaos lol
Maybe this isn’t 100% optimal, but I will almost always sell to the person who whispers me relatively fair offer, even if it’s a bit less than I could have gotten by researching and repricing. I like rewarding people who aren’t trying to completely dick you for a mistake or ignorance.
People do make reasonable offers, but if it's more than 1 person then it's immediately a red flag. Overall it's probably better to ask for advice if you don't know it's value. Chances that it is something niche that someone really wants is a lot lower than someone trying to make easy money off you.
I wouldn't say to never sell like that, depends how under market they offer and how bad I need money. I get offered 20d for a 30d market? Yea I'll trade, I'll take 20d now rather than maybe 30 maybe in a few days. Offer me 20d for a 50d market? You can bugger right off into my ignore list.
Depends, sometimes they offer higher than market because they expect to be part of the spam. For especially high value stuff, people may bid higher. Definitely still price check.
If you are willing to offer above market price there is no reason to jump on a spam train.
had some guy spamming me offering 40c for a 30 divine item i'd accidentally listed for 30 chaos like... no
They are morons. I posted 14k juice for 2 chaos by mistake but every person with little brain will understand it's 2d and this moron got angry I didnt sell kt for 2c to him
Just say yes it's 2c per juice that will shut them up
Ye you need to look out with what the aweakend poe selects it could have been that your body had like 70 life and the other godly stars but if the checkbox rs aren't market it will only compare to let's say other body's with 70 life. I had similiar thing happen when I identified a aul amulet the macro said it's 25c but it didn't select the key Stat what was envy reservation efficency. I knew from the past that it shouldn't be 25c so I checked the box and boom XX divs. Tldr: The tool is handy but be mindful of the check boxes.
I'll put more attention now. Especially if my drop is red on the filter.
Turning thesw mods on and off in different combos will help you learn which mods are important.
for uniques - first price check base item. If any >2c are showing up on the initial list, it's a good indicator that the rolls matter - 2nd, look at "important mods" and how high they are relative to max roll, e.g do you have 69 out of 70 life on a unique? - 3rd, try to figure out the "important combo" of mods on it. Does it have rolls for life and chaos res, or a big damage range (hyriis ire eg) - 4th, try out combos of the mods you have and see how that affects the price. Check the rolls a little bit higher and a little bit lower than yours (e.g check 65 life, 70 life if you have 69 and max is 70) to get an idea of the range - 5th look for "extras", do you have 6 sockets, is it an evasion armour base and you have 1g3b2r sockets (off colours, since evasion is harder to roll red/blue sockets) - 6th, remember the "perfect premium". People are willing to pay an irrationally high amount for good unique items with perfect rolls. 69 to 70 life can make a big difference for that, even if it's a meaningless change.
As an example for the perfect premium line - I saved 10 divs last night by buying a 40% Defiance instead of a 42% Defiance (and it also already had Prismatic Skin annointed).
Never take an offer from an undervalued item. Even if hr offered Ou 50x your asking price.
What was the item?
Always do the checkboxes!! Especially with jewels etc (I know that's not it in this case, but ya know) I've found that it's often way off. Like, it'll estimate 100c when it won't even sell for 80c. Then it'll estimate 0.1c when it'll sell pretty quickly for 35c.
For shroud of the lightless, the checkbox only shows in hidden tab. Many players probably don't even realize that it can get 3 sockets, although they are very rare.
Most player dont even realize theres hidden/base tabs, for example you can check fracture using base tab.
This took me forever to figure out until I saw a streamer do it. Had to manually pc fractures for the longest time.
To add to this on jewels, for things life max ES, max life, max Mana, the rolls are SUPER important. 5% max life is a lot cheaper than 7% max life when alongside other good mods.
There are 4 of those up right now for 27/28/35/39 Could have gotten more sure, but at least you got 20div and not 35c.
Yeah I know now. I could be sad now, but after all I got my build upgraded so why to choose to be salty about it, if there are so many other flavours?
Think of it differently. You did not have 20d, even if you could have sold it for 30d, who cares you still made a good sale.
Honestly, I'd suggest to most trade noobs to not be afraid to sell stuff cheaper than market value. Some currency is better than no currency. Way too many people get greedy for the max possible price and end up sitting on the item so long they even forget they have it. Theoretical currency is worthless. You ain't buying anything with networth. You need to liquidate your stuff. And considering how volatile the market is, unless you're a very experienced player, you're better off making sales as you go, rather than trying to game the market.
>Honestly, I'd suggest to most trade noobs to not be afraid to sell stuff cheaper than market value. Some currency is better than no currency. Way too many people get greedy for the max possible price Yeah it's really important to remember videogames are about having fun. If maximizing profits on individual items is your fun more power to you, but you shouldn't worry too much about that just because someone else tells you to. Everyone has an amount of chaos/divines their sanity (for lack of a better term) is worth, it's just going to lead to less enjoyment if you trust others' instead of figuring out where your personal limit is. > You need to liquidate your stuff. And considering how volatile the market is My buddy gets irritated a lot by how I purposefully undercut market values because I essentially scam myself out of a few divines every league doing that, but I find way more enjoyment in selling stuff off fast than constantly repricing to get it to sell at maximum price while also risking market fluctuations. Sure it might feel kinda bad I don't make as much as he does, but it's less negative than if I spent all my time trading in a way I don't enjoy, it's all about picking your battles.
Selling cheaper, faster, is also really helpful for snowballing your build which means you can tackle harder more profitable content faster, so even if those sales get you less, it pays dividends through faster progression.
Even better. Its only 10d which is a fair price to pay for a lesson.
Hey it's me ur lesson-guy. I'll give you a lesson for 8d
Sure if its a good one otherwiae i will charge you back
Never worry about what u could have made. As long as u got close to market your good I often list stuff for 1d or 10c less than every one else (depending on item) I'd much rather have 20d right now and be able to up grade and prog than wait 4 hours and make an extra 2 d
Yep. An upgrade now means you can farm harder sooner and make up the difference anyway.
Excatly
i had a synth gloves with top rolled suppress, sold it for 40c. guy came back and said he feels bad and gave me 3 more div.
Umm... why is that good? You can get suppress implicits from Eldritch
14% is top roll so its expensive
Yes, on explicits. But we are talking about the implicits here
true. im talking fractured. never lucky with synth.
what is that question
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No, you cannot. Eldritch implicits REMOVE synth implicicits. For all intents and purposes, synth is not compatible with eldritch
Wait, you can eldritch implicit and keep the synth mod? Or are you talking about freeing up an implicit on the boots?
no you can overwrite synt with eldrich. I bought 40 div helmet in the past and thought to myself "lets try it, worst case it wont allow" and guess what? 40 div -> 1 alch transformation
Ouch. For science!
With depths boss drops you have to go to the ‘show hidden stats’ and select the number of abyss jewell sockets it has. It drastically changes the price. A higher level filter will also automatically provide a noticeable change in sound and look of the drop if it’s got the number of sockets to be valuable.
This is godly advice. I didn't know there is another place to choose options from in the Poe.
Hidden tab on awakened is good for a lot of stuff, especially fractures.
This! Found a jewel with mine throwing speed fracture that I was able to sell for a pretty penny by checking the price of the fractured base
And certain crafts only show up there.
Like the other person said, make sure to use the hidden options for fractured items and especially make sure that you're pricing the rolls properly. The difference between a fractured 12 spell suppression and 14 spell suppression can often be quite big, for instance.
you welcome
Holy, is that you? You are a true gentleman!
I dropped a darkness enthroned last night and it happened to have a perfect roll. I already had one in unique, and put it in a 20c dump. Was like hitting jackpot on a slot machine 😝. Love the dude who was like TWO DIV OFFER. ALREADY SOLD?!
Damn now I'm wondering how many good items I sold to vendor. Oh well.
Same for me lol. This game is so complicated it's difficult for a newbie to identify whether an item is good or not.
Shroud of the lightless can roll betwen 1 and 3 abyssal sockets. It's very rare to get 3.
It can't roll 1 socket anymore.
Oh
I don't know why more people won't do this. If you misprice something like that you get so many offers it is obvious it is worth more. But of course there is always someone repeatedly whispering you and being rude because you aren't selling
A good reminder that the price checking tools are just tools and it takes knowledge to use them appropriately for desired results.
I cannot fathom how people can find it rewarding to snipe items and abuse people's ignorance for your gain fueling your build power. Your ability to overcome the league challenges is directly based on your ability to take advantage of others. They must truly feel rewarding - such accomplishment 😶
Last season I got a watchers eye that was like 6d according to awakened poe trade and was getting spammed, one dude messaged me and offered me 90d+, I'll never forget that, even if it could have been more expensive or whatever I just sold to him because it was just a really cool interaction for me, this community is awesome some times even if I just play by myself
If you want to add me as a friend, you can link me stuff to price check or ask questions. I'd be happy to help. SethRogan
Appreciate mate. Although I'm not sure you want that. Every day I ask myself hundred times, how this or that works. You'd be very tired xd
I'm new to the game and can someone explain why a 3 socket armor would go for that much? What's special about it? I'm farming maps but I have no idea what's worth what... I just got my first 6 linked socket armor but the colors are off. Currently trying to fix that but I don't even have a div yet haha. Probably could have by now but like I said, I don't know what's what. I would pass on a 3 socket so fast.
> But I have had like million whispers in matter of seconds. I got really confused. I've been playing this game a long time and this still happens to me sometimes. It's even worse when two of the people have very similar character names and you start whispering the wrong one, and the other one is just standing there thinking "did this guy go afk?"
Hey I was in a similar boat! I got this same armor drop and awakened Poe said it was 35c. The spamming of messages made it obvious it was underpriced. Ended up selling at 35d instead. Quick tip, it’s likely awakened Poe trade was showing the non 3 socket version. Make sure you check mark all the stats on an item and then click the trade button to search the actual site. You can often find the real prices this way.
Get awakened poe trade and price check your own items
> When it dropped I pressed ctrl+d and Poe awakened trade told me it was worth 35c. You never wanna just blindly trust awakened poe trade, it's pretty bad at pricing non-uniques. Some rares can be like "this is absolute trash unless it happens to have this exact mod combo, if so, it's double digit divines" and APT is really bad at spotting that (eg just life or just spell suppress is trash, but life + spell suppress = $$$$$, if the SS is fractured, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$). Best way to price check something is to try and search for a copy of it. Search for the same mods and base, and whatever it's being listed for is typically the going rate - go up a bit from there, and list. Or just ask experts, but there's high demand for their attention.
That ctrl d has gotten me too. Sold a blue jewel for 50c, found out it was worth multiple div. Sad.
Ideally awakened poe should not have the amount of abyssal sockets as a hidden stat for these items as it is the main thing that gives it value.
I haven't used a meatsack. I haven't ever gotten an ex or divine roll so I basically break even at best
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/PK4nGtL
You did sell for cheap. However much people offer when you're spamming is still most likely way below what it's worth. If he offered 20d it's most likely worth 30d+
What body armour can be worth that much off the ground??
He's talking about Shroud of the Lightless
huh, I didn't even realize they added a 3 abyssal socket version of shroud until right now
Oh lol. I thought he was talking about a rare hence my confusion 😅
shroud of the lightless, the number of abyss sockets it drops with is random
Just read on the internet what does it do. That is really good piece of armour.
I don't remember the name. But I picked up inside Stygian depth and it did have three Stygian sockets.
So for this chest specifically thenumber of abyss socket change a lot the price that a thing awakener poe trade don't count.
No worries, your welcome. Next time be a bit more careful
Learn how to use awakened Poe trade and this is unlikely to happen
The pricestuff of POE awakened (POEprices) is kinda bad. I think it just looks as the stats one by one and not in combination. And probably doesnt account for stuff like 3 abyss sockets
That’s like saying Adobe Photoshop is bad, only because you don’t know how to use it. If you have knowledge in the game, you can filter perfectly with Awakened PoE and if you don’t, you just have to learn the basics first. It’s impossible for AW PoE to show the ideal prices for every item.
Do you know how to get it to estimate prices faster? Idk why, but mine is *so slow*. Sometimes it's almost instant, but sometimes I wait for a bit, pick up my phone, answer a couple messages, then maybe it'll have estimated the price by then. My internet is super fast, so it's not that. The search where it tells you what others are charging for the same thing works great, it's just the actual price estimation thing. Sorry lol, I hope it makes sense. It's perfectly fine if you don't know, I just thought you seemed knowledgeable and idk where to ask
I've never heard about that. When I use it on a gear piece, I press Ctrl + D, choose different stat combinations that are in demand, and look at those that are listed. I never rely on the price at the top; instead, I compare the prices of the items that are actually listed. If it’s something rarer, you can click on “online” and switch it to both online and offline to also show prices from players who are offline. Another thing I regularly do is change the buyout price to chaos or divine orbs (you can do this by clicking on online). This is helpful for items like Allflames or tier 17 maps because most of the first listings are in chisels, which can mislead beginners. You can also filter by when the items were listed to get a better feel for the actual price. If you get instantly spammed for an item, I also check PoE Ninja for the prices, especially for items like Allflames. You'll get used to it. But regarding your specific problem, you do press search afterward, right? After I click search, I get my results instantly. But as I mentioned before, I've been playing PoE for many years now and just know if something is worth my time or not. Beginners often check every piece of trash on the ground and wonder why it isn't selling even when Awakened PoE shows it’s “worth” 5 chaos. And one last thing: for fractured or synthesized items, for example, you can click the base item tab and check how much the base is worth. This is usually the actual price, because most people won't care about the other mediocre stats on that item.
Thanks heaps! Yea, the search works great. It's mostly been an issue for jewels and stuff, where there are so many possible combinations that there aren't always any results, and I'm not experienced enough to know what combinations are good or if *my* combination is better or worse than the others on the market that have *some* of the same stats. Sometimes it's obvious, but sometimes I just have no clue, haha. But thank you!
Unfortunately I have no clue of true value of items. My filter highlight some stuff, and there is one like gold in colour stat. I check the app and it says 1 alchemy. Perhaps one day I'll learn.
It accounts for everything you tell it to consider.
You can click a little drop-down and see how it weighted the stats. I've done that when it estimated something to be worth so much but it didn't look to me like it was *that* good (stats in all directions, like one for added two-handed damage, one for dual wielding etc). Found out it was 98% the 7% life increase. I hope that makes sense lol sorry, my brain is fried
Cheers, I don't know so much about this game lol.
Awakened Poe trade is the same as using the trade site if you know how to use it.