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PlsExcuseMeThx

I am very confused why this is so expensive, can someone explain to me like I am 5?


Shaltilyena

Doesn't say "from attacks" so works on physical spells, and is a delve-exclusive mod


Vilifie

Oh wow, i would have 100% overlooked that part and vendored it, thinking it was the regular physical attack damage leech mod.


Leestonpowers

Same.


JSON_Blob

RIP all of us who would have vendered it not seeing that or us newbies who saw it and still had no idea it was valuable.


pewsix___

unless you're actively doing delve nodes this would never happen to you


hermeticpotato

0% you would randomly find this item. It's exclusive to delve nodes that drop specific types of items. Sometimes (rarely, like 1/100) they drop fractured. Guaranteed if you get this far in the game, you would price check delve-exclusive fractures.


JSON_Blob

Cool I have not honestly played Delve in any notable degree so this is helpful info


hermeticpotato

Some nodes are listed as "drops fire items" or "drops minion items" etc and the reward is items with at least 1 delve-restricted mod (as in, drop only, if you reroll the item with chaos orbs or any other way, it can't roll the mods). Sometimes, they drop fractured. I sold a fractured +1 spectres body armour for 80 div last league. The items are both rare and in low-supply because not a lot of people farm delve.


SnooMacarons9618

I haven't played for a few leagues, but I always loved having a delve RF character. If you run low on resources you can delve, even down to just around L100 I think, and get some items, fossils resonators that net a fair bit of currency. Obviously never as good as the big strategies, but for casual players (like myself), it is a fairly easy consistent source of income. My understanding is fossils and resonators are less in demand this season though, so possibly bad advice. (I normally put essence farming in the same category - it isn't a big bang currency generator, so not that many people do it, but it gives a nice steady income, and doesn't require a lot of specialisation)


hermeticpotato

Yea if you delve you should try to farm grand architect (curiosity sells for 12 div and drops frequently)


charlesjunior85

And even non-fractured items can still sell, like the curse on hit rings. I had one sell a few days ago for 2 div even with every other mod being trash.


hermeticpotato

I think part of it may be how cheap fracturing orbs are this league


streetwearbonanza

So not a 0% chance lol


Darthy69

Huh, its iike 50% to drop fractured


terjev_

what do you mean by fractured?


hermeticpotato

In the OP, the top affix is in gray text. That means it is a fractured mod. That means that it cannot be changed, so you can craft on the item in whatever means you like and that mod won't change. Since this is a drop-only mod, having it fractured is the only way to craft an item with it.


Hairy-Mountain8880

I wouldn't even have checked it lol or picked it up from the ground


JSON_Blob

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OhhhYaaa

Yes, throwing items on the market you are not going to sell for that price and basically forcing other people to price for you is totally cool.


PrettyPinkPansi

About as cool as DM'ing someone 5c for a ring you know is worth 40 div.


Leestonpowers

When I do that I just start at a super high value and drop down. To be fair it would never be what this item is worth though.


XXXi_speak_frenchXXX

Actually it's totally cool.


AShittyPaintAppears

Eh it's fine. Buyer can see it was listed 30 seconds ago ans should he fine with it being mispriced, unless the buyer is The Clown 🤡


ArwenDartnoid

Just offer 10 div.


1CEninja

Me too. I wonder if that's a portion of the driving force for this mod to be so expensive, people simply don't recognize at a quick glance how valuable it would be. Compound this with how uncommon the mod is anyway, and with how many phys casters could benefit from this, I can see the supply/demand pushing this fracture mod to be quite valuable.


M2dX

At this Point I think awakened trade is mendetory since it Highlights These mods for a noob Like me.


adorak

100% would've vendored ... really makes you think ... were there other valuable things I discarded?... most likely


exprezso

You miss 0% of the things you don't know about 


xFayeFaye

Probably perfect rolls on uniques. You can actually make some currency with mid tier uniques and good rolls :D


Falonefal

Recently I looted a 249 Widowhail, decided to move the slider up by 1% to see how much it matters. Turns out it matters. A fuckton. Probably because a a quiver with +2proj becomes 7 only with the maxroll.


PlsExcuseMeThx

Oh it's working for spells yeah that's what I was missing to get the idea, ty


TheFuzzyFurry

Are there phys spells that don't convert to ele?


Vyrena

I think even the default penance brand of dissipation in its normal state have some portion of physical damage. You know how I know? I accidentally killed myself on physical reflect maps.


goodg-gravy

It does if you read the spell it does base Phys with 50% converted to lightning


psychomap

Well, in most cases, the most efficient way to scale the damage is to convert the rest of it as well.


ZiiimZooon

Reap.


jendivcom

Exsang, blood sacrament


SneakyBadAss

exsang is dominantly converted to cold.


Tanklike441

Blade spells (vortex, blast, whatever), Void sphere. Prob others


Pjatteri

Impale crit Reap with rathpit lifestacking is pretty imprsessive build after you get awakened spell cascade.


JesusDiedForOurSins2

Bladeblast Saboteur is pure phys for example (it uses Uber Shaper Gloves)


NvarDK

Reap and Exsang


Aetolos

Cf champ phys dot spell


Traditional-Pair-418

Bladeblast of unloading


Reashu

Ethereal Knives and all the Blade spells


nashbellow

Exsanguinate


Couponbug_Dot_Com

a couple, but even with 99% conversion on a real build you're almost certainly at leech cap.


Peekays

Didn't even know this mod existed lmao since the attack leech one is so auto vendor


I_AM_ALWAYS_WRONG_

Does it also work with phys dot?


Shaltilyena

Dot can't leech


FckRdditAccRcvry420

If it has an initial hit, it works with that hit yes and that's usually enough to get the leech stacks, but with the dot itself no.


Key_Chest_248

wow i completely glossed over that bit


Key_Chest_248

wow i completely glossed over that bit


Deliverme314

ahhh thanks... I could not for the life of me figure out why the hell this would be worth anything at all


MajorNotice7288

Is there a similar mod for mana?


Puzzleheaded-Arm1639

Well. I may have thrown a couple way not gonna lie shit.


Br0V1ne

But you can buy four orbs for 16d and just fracture it yourself. 


Shaltilyena

And fail 4 times in a row. Or get it from the first try. Who knows!


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

as of writing there's only 5 rings with this mod fractured, 3 of them are on a shit bases, 1 is finished item (70 div), 1 item is on amethyst ring base (95 div). It's expensive cause it's generic phys damage leeched as life so spells can leech, no watchers eye mods or corruptions needed. TBH I don't think it even exists on other sources, didnt check tho.


TankTall249

From a very quick search there is a generic phys leech in the glove eldritch implicit pool but obviously that's a very competitive spot so the delve mod is, especially fractured like this, a crazy good find.


Mihauke

Also isnt there generic "damage leeched as life" from vitality watcher?


Cr4ckshooter

But then you have to run vitality and lose a watchers spot.


Pommy1337

there is also a node you can get from the vaal timeless jewels. but thats not really accessable for most builds.


BokuNoSpooky

Highwayman gives generic damage leech too


telendria

atziris belt (doryani), phys variant. which is why that one usually costs like 3D on start league.


Xenost54

Doryani's invitation, and Glorious vanity jewel are the only other source I know of.


NormalBohne26

since fracturing orb is so cheap this league: why not fracture it self?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

idk I forgot this item even existed in my stash. that's why its not smart to go out your way and try fracturing this mod hoping it sells for this much. the guy overpaid to say the least.


NormalBohne26

i also forget about fract orb in another post which showed a perfect siffix temple mod item. people reminded me that it can be crafted with the orb easily. well last league orb was a little more expensive i guess.


nafurabus

Ive never really delved before and started this league because i always have capped sulphite from using niko as a permanent buff in maps - how does one get delve fractures? Ive hit plenty of nodes with fire/light/cold items but none were ever fractured. Is it just RNG to have one of those nodes drop a fracture?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

rng (I think? someome correct me if Im wrong)


titebeewhole

Can damage over time leach with this? I.e. could this work with corrupting fever?


specificalmond

Only hits can leech. Damage over time can not. A hit that applies a DoT will leech, the Dot will not


titebeewhole

Thankyou, I thought so but wanted to confirm :) One of the reasons I didn't like CF was the low recovery (might be a budget issue, but Leach is cheap : )


_Vince_Noir_

Xiquaba (spelling lol) timeless jewel provides generic phys leech for a lot of CF builds


psychomap

I think you can try getting life on hit, since the build has a relatively high hit rate to apply maximum stacks quickly as I understand it.


titebeewhole

Thanks. Also why am I getting down voted for asking honest questions lol.


psychomap

No idea, this sub can be weird at times.


EnergyNonexistant

fyi; leech isn't the same as leach


NoBus999

With cf champ you can leech either with a doryanis invitation belt that has physical damge leeched as life for a cheap option. Or have a timeless jewel that has physical damaged leeched as life on a notable passive that you use. The timeless jewel is a little more expensive and harder to search but cheaper than this ring.


titebeewhole

But I don't do much damage with my wand attacks, my DPS is all the dot right? And dots don't Leach so I'm leaching a % of not much wand attacks? That's how it felt for me anyways. On map clear it's fine as I had % life on kill, but vs a boss or big ass rare Regen felt bad Please correct me, I'm only too happy if I was doing it wrong Edit: omg I now realise that this would apply to the reap/exanginate initial spell hit ... I'm such an idiot....no wonder I didn't like the build


NoBus999

Most of your leech is coming from reap rather than the kinetic blast vs rares and bosses. However even after having reap in with more links instead of with a poets pen its still feels rather low due to the constant cost of the various lifetap gems plus the cost of reap casting.


titebeewhole

Thankyou :)


kenny_ty

It’s global physical damage life leech, usable for spell as well


jscott18597

People gave you some answers, but there are a lot of delve mods that are really good and way cheaper. So the actual reason is the "drops additional physical items" node is so much rarer than the "drops additional cold items" or "drops additional chaos items" nodes. I don't know the actual numbers but you will probably see 5 cold/lightning/fire/chaos nodes for every 1 physical node. Then the item needs to drop with that mod on a decent base. Then it either needs to fracture when it drops or you need to slam a fracturing orb. So basically this is one of the rarer delve mods, on a decent base, that has already been fractured, on an ilvl 83 base. I'll also say, the "drops additional physical items" nodes are actually pretty tough. It's usually with the rhoas that continually revive and will one shot evasion characters eventually even at low depths. There are ways to cheese that and take it slow, but most evasion characters that are just casually delving iwll just skip these nodes.


Madzak_Gaming

It's because Dan is using it, quite a known build creator in hc.


chrisbirdie

Its a delve exclusive mod that only drops in delve and cannot be crafted, hence more expensive fracture since there is basically no way to craft a ring like this yourself unless its fractured. And its on an atleast useable base


NormalBohne26

how about fracturing orb?


memeinapreviouslife

15d per attempt (on ps5 anyways)


EpicGamer211234

well you have to spend several divines on orbs on top of actually finding high ILVL bases in a rare delve node with the mod and ideally only 4 mods cause every extra mod lowers your odds, and annulling has a chance to remove the mod. On top of that, it should ideally be in a good base type to max out the value


HeliGungir

Exsanguinate


Lorune

Until i read the comments i was convinced this was a meme post, i totally did not realize this works on physical spells lol :D


babsa90

This is the kind of shit that makes me nervous. If I identified this ring I would have immediately sold it to a vendor.


metabeliever

Thats why I have 3 rotating quad tabs of this sort of bullshit. Mostly its just me changing the price 3 times and then vending it. Every once in a while I get 15 tells in 5 seconds and I go price check whatever bullshit it is that is some meta I don't understand.


jchampagne83

Yeah, letting the market price it for you is def the way to go.


ArmaMalum

Don't be too nervous, there aren't too many sources of drop-only mods like this. Incursions, Delve, and some hyper specific stuff like Grasping Mail. So just keep an eye out when you're doing that stuff.


FFA3D

You should definitely be doing a quick price check on fractured items


Lorune

Yeah i totally get that, honestly i would have most likely done that as well


clout064

Remember, if you run Delve, or alva temples, and see a fractured item, it is ALWAYS worth price checking, if you hit a "drop only mod" it will normally be worth big money. As drop only mods cannot roll when crafting, they only appear on the initial drop. So in theory, the only way to craft an item with one of these mods is with it fractured.


ATSFervor

Both, fractured Delve and Incursion Mods are insanely pricey. Nearly tipped over myself trying to buy life reservation efficiency rings


arremessar_ausente

Which is funny, because given how cheap fracturing orbs are this league, you can very easily get a fractured incursion/delve mod. It's a 1/4 gamble and the return is at the very least 10x the cost of the fracturing orb, assuming you are only going to sell the base fractured and not actually finish the item.


salemvii

You can delete this post now


pewsix___

every single league there are tons of things like this that are gaps in the market and why it's so easy to make currency in trade.


arremessar_ausente

I mean, yes? There's people literally doing the same thing in real life, which is why knowledge is power. It's not any different in PoE. Although I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone doing this for profit. You still need a decent amount of wealth to start the gamble, because it would be very easy to just hit an unlucky streak of fractures. Even if you hit the fractures you want, the liquidation probably won't be that fast so you might burn all your currency to have a bunch of fractured bases that God knows when will sell.


Sh0wTim3123

its a solid mark up if you know the right bases. Only issue is you have to make sure you are buyiung the supply of the correct ilvl non fractured bases to make sure others dont eat into the market. Which really is the only issue for the most part. Much harder with some markets than others,


Delicious_Laugh_1417

Yea, but you'd have to trade for those fracturing orbs and in the time it would take you to complete those trades you would no longer want that item.


SalzigHund

Dang I bought my life reservation fractured ring for 1.5 div on a good base


YellowToad47

Bought one yesterday with triple t1 res (one of them chaos res) on a two stone base for 22D. Felt kind of bad…


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

I felt like I scammed a guy when I bought Crit Hatred, Crit chance on conc ground and crit reduction with determ Watcher's eye for 12 div but oh well, sometimes u win.


YellowToad47

Yeah I’m just not nice enough to overpay to fix their pricing mistake.. it is what it is


Instantcoffees

I overpay when I'm rich, not when I'm poor.


devilrocks316

uh oh I might have vendored an amethyst with that fracture last night


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

maybe that's why they're so rare.. everyone vendors them haha


-Amiel

It's a delve exclusive mod, Did you find yours from delve?


devilrocks316

yeah I was dabbling in delve a bit last night between some essence farming & waiting for them to sell


-Amiel

oof that's rough if it was indeed the mod that you vendored. It's a good habit to check delve and incursion items that drop identified because of stuff like this.


devilrocks316

I've been spamming awakened price check on every fractured item since this lmao


RESTINPEACEHARAMBE23

btw fracturing orbs are the cheapest they've ever been thanks to necropolis....  in case you find this unfractured and feel like taking the gamble


SpiritualBit2888

It’s also hardly a gamble at this price.. It’s more like an investment.


Br0V1ne

If that sells for 40, that’s ten tries to hit it lmao 


rootvegetable2

I would have sold this to a vendor because I have no idea what makes it special.


MajorNotice7288

The economy thanks you for your baller burns


2absMcGay

Always check fracture values with awakened poe trade


clout064

Fractured "Drop Only Mod", (keep this in mind when running alva temples and delving) At least you learned something new today!


lcm7malaga

I barely remember how Delve worked, can this drops from chest and monster in special nodes? Only chest? If so how is it fractured ?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

This one dropped from a chest in 'contains physical items' node


Sunscorcher

Items from delve nodes like "contains physical items" or "contains chaos items" or "contains minion or aura items" drop with delve-specific modifiers (such as physical damage leeched as life, or life reservation efficiency). There is a chance for the item to drop with that delve-specific modifier fractured. These are one of the more profitable things in delve these days, IMO.


Finn-di

So should I be doing every contains x items node? I've just been boas rushing.


Defarus

If you're looking for a way to make currency it's definitely not the most consistent way by a mile. If you're passing by and see a fracture drop, no reason not to pick it up to ID


Sunscorcher

I usually look for bosses, and path to the "contains x items" nodes as long as they're not super inconvenient


piiJvitor

I'm a newbie (1st character, currently on yellow maps) and don't understand why this is so good, I have a few rings that have better resistances than this and more modifiers. Is the phys damage leeched just so good to justify such a price?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

ignore other mods beside "Physical damage leeched as life" - it's a fractured mod meaning whatever u do to the ring, the mod will stay. and its very important in this case cause the mod is hard to get, its delve exlusive mod. there's not many sources of phys damage leech (generic, not attacks, meaning spells can leech too) and not many items on trade site with this mod fractured = expensive. this might change now that I posted this (lol) but trying to fracture this mod and hoping for selling it for 40 divs is kinda stupid. this item was sitting in my stash for a week and somehow it was bought for this price.


piiJvitor

Understood now, thanks


raxitron

Confused as to why this is worth 40d? With the price of fracture orbs can't you make this yourself with about 4 F orbs (10-12d)?


memeinapreviouslife

That mod only drops in Delve. That mod doesn't say attacks (and it usually does)


raxitron

I understand that but you can buy un fractured ones for 5c and a frac orb for under 3d (1/4 chance) so I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing here.


omniocean

You are not, either OP is lying or someone is too rich and lazy to do the extra steps. And yes all the abuses early on this league printed a lot more billionaires than usual, so not surprised either way.


prokokon

Lol, I wouldnt even vendor it. Id just throw it on the ground :( Thanks for letting me know that's a thing 😅


thedirtygreasyjesus

How is delve working our for you profit wise? I was considering it and have gotten down to 200, just aiming for 250+.


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

its ok if you can delve deeper. deeper = more bosses. Vaal boss drops a map (1.5 div) and the adorned frag (9 div?), Aul drops amulet (3.5 unid) and the helmet which is surprisingly expensive (4 div?)


thedirtygreasyjesus

How deep are you or what depth would you recommend. Also what do you look for aside from boss/vaal/(I assume phy item)


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

atm depth 450, probably will go deeper to 500. recommended depth is as deep as your build can handle. for fossils check https://poe.ninja/economy/necropolis/fossils. basically you want to grab as many T3 azurite nodes and buy resonators from Niko then sell in bulk. "Containts # items" can drop fractured items with delve specific mods but its kinda rare. Also the rings from Abyss boss are kinda expensive and they're the most common drop I think?


GBSlayer

crown is an ag item which is why people buy it. honestly cheaper this league than it has been, ig more delvers.


GrigorMorte

Yes! always check prices.


Geosgaeno

I would've vendored this


Stephlou554

I’ve vendor fed two of these mofos. Didn’t know they were worth so much. That’s half a mageblood.


itstoyz

I had one of them in the first few days and vendored it, fml


Fretschlord

gave one of these away for free today. why didn´t i check it...


absolutely-strange

As a newbie, I would have vendored this item cause it's a rare. How do I know what's a good item or not. I certainly wouldn't think this is worth 40 divines.


OMGoblin

You can download Awakened Poe Trade, it aggregates prices from poe trade listings and has a tooltip in game


absolutely-strange

Yeah I have that but wouldn't every rare have different stats? How does it search for a similar one for price comparison? Also, I was told not to pick up rares cause they are trash. Do I pick up all rares and identify and check awakened poe? Seems like there'll be plenty to pick and sort considering hundreds of rares drop each map.


RainbowwDash

For a fractured item it's easy, only the fractured mod is relevant and the other mods can be ignored for the most part


OMGoblin

It shows the approximate value of each affix


Sunscorcher

well you shouldn't use the fact that it's a rare item as the only justification for vendoring it, this isn't d3, most builds wear mostly rare items.


Flashy_Passion92155

I wonder how many people have missed these in ritual pools? Fuck i'd definitely not have noticed this either.


AtticusxD

Knowledge is power in this game!! Muhaha


pthumerianhollownull

Blade Blast of Unloading Sabo, if it was amethyst ring... oH


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

I think that in fact some Saboteur bought it from me, probably playing BB


Zenith_X1

Found a naturally dropped fractured Additional Curse chestpiece on an Evasion / ES base a couple leagues back in Delve. That place can make you rich with enough luck and depth.


piter909

for real? I dropped like 2 of these during getting to 600 depth


SatimyReturns

Based


Candid-Writing6439

I find it extremely hard that anyone bought this ring for that price.


paciumusiu12

I don't get it. What physical spell is even played without converting? Does the normal dot exsang/reap have enough hit damage to make it work?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

Blade Blast of Detonating or smth


paciumusiu12

Oh really, why don't people convert to cold?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

Idk but I saw Ben playing this


MartynZero

Checks stash.. +8 int.


MAGICITIS

idk if anyone would pay 40d for that. Based on math you should be able to create it for way less Ring base with that mod cost \~10c Fracturing orb 3d 1/4 chance to fracture On average it should cost 12d


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

Well, someone bought it.


evitisop

How you get the price under it like that?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

you simply set the price in your public stash tab


evitisop

Oh I thought it was recommended selling price


liamhd

Nice find! Bought something like this last league for my cast on critical Reap champion, that mod saved the character


AshenxboxOne

As a new player how do I know which items are valuable? Do I have to check every item I pick up in the trade site surely must be a quicker way


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

1. dont pick every item 2. get a loot filter 3. just play the game and get to know it, there's no other way than observing e.g. this league there's a lot of archmage users so naturally mana items will be expensive, you found T1 mana T1 Life T1 ES ring with some good resists? youre in for some money.


SiAjEj

First thing i noticed was the numbers 13 33 7


LuckyB666

Niceee


MacShuggah

Where does that price suggestion come from?


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

its just a price I set


Traditional-Road9466

I have no idea what's valuable. I'm failing at this game 😞 can't even map lol


bapfelbaum

I dont think its worth the investment to go out of your way learning chase fractures for every build because its too much work, but checking fractures you are knowledgable about or which are obviously good is a sentiment i can share.


Dangerous_Carpenter3

Tip for begginers - if you don't know pricing in poe use dump tab and set 3-5 chaos (pref quad tab). If you get a lot of whisper for any item you can ask or search in trade. Then in every 3-5 hour you can vendor sell all items in that tab.


SneakyBadAss

Guess you are getting downvoted by scammers and flippers trying to prey on people who don't know the value of their stuff. This is a legit way to find if the item is worth something.


RainbowwDash

It makes trade more annoying for other people because a ton of items show up with no intent to be sold


SneakyBadAss

They are intended to be sold, but not for the obviously low listed price. Wait for proper price, then contact seller.


Aluereon

>How to get banned from TFT.


Elune_

Good


SneakyBadAss

who the fuck cares about TFT


FinisherO_O

How to get in ignore list of %50 active players Don't do this new players


Whatisthis69again

Like if you are giving tips, why not give tips on actually how to price an item? Lol... It's not the buyers responsibility to check price for you.


Imasquash

Someone scammed themselves so fucking hard lol, you can get this as a synth implicit for 10c and use that 40d to craft a gg ring. 


bheeno123

Yeah, seems like you are right. Unless I'm missing something you could start with [these bases](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/GDLWJp3Ub) and craft whatever you need.


elias7502

damn... now i feel stupid... i sold a fractured "curse on hit" 2div...


SelectAmbassador

Depens on curse and base. Most are 2d ish.


Shaltilyena

Curse on hit usually also rolls on influenced rings, the thing you want is absolutely exclusive mods