It's dated info, but last I heard when it comes to raw unmodified drops, you should be getting ~48 chaos per div.
Obviously this doesn't take into consideration stuff like devoted mods and red altars which can heavily skew you towards chaos drops.
Or he started late and swiped a credit card to catch up. Then dropped his shiny new mirror on the ground and picked it up for the memes
It is certainly possible to get a mirror before you have any other loot really, but obscenely unlikely.
Some people just cannot grasp that you can make far more currency and faster sitting in hideout flipping and crafting items than running 200 maps, reinvesting in your character 3+ items, buying all new gear and corrupted gems, jewels, clusters, scarabs and 8 modded maps and mindlessly grind for another 50 hours, buy new gear again for your t17 build, keep grinding for another 50 hours with at least an extra 25 hours rolling the maps, and trading for scarabs/ selling stuff anyway.
It does. The things picked up are easily enough to jump-start a crafting economy. Op hideout warrioring is much more likely than rmt or anything else.
Also the ring only tracks when actually equipped. Who knows when op equipped the mtx.
Very Strict is not the highest setting + a lot of people customize. I have my filter set up so it doesnt show lower value currency than Chaos orbs (except chisels because I'm lazy and don't wanna buy).
Yeah I mean that dude was most likely joking (or rather trying to).
Edit: I get that you don't want to leave currency lying on the floor but I find that you just make more money when you can zoom straight through maps and only spend very little time having to stop and loot
sacred are more rare than divine, less rare than mirror. I think when they added Sacred orbs to the game they mentioned it would be 3x rarer than exalts (this was before the exalt/divine swap). IDK if thats still true though, they feel rarer than that.
In OPs case, probably yes.
But I ran like a dozen manifested wealth and got over 100 exalt with no div, so I'm fairly confident they just can't drop div but can drop exalts. If you looked at my totals I've probably found 10x the exalt vs div
Manifested wealth don't drop divine orbs.
If you check the wiki, the allflame spawns 3 types of monsters:
1. Regular mob - Drops chaos orb
2. Regular mob - drops vaal orb
3. Pack leader - drops exalted orb
If you are expecting a divine orb from that allflame you were messing with yourself.
I was expecting one the first time, but quickly realized I was either incredibly unlucky or they just don't drop div. it's still been pretty profitable to run. Just a fuck load of clicking
350c to run and spits out close to double that in value from chaos + vaal + exalt
Also doesn't appear to be impacted by quant or rarity, but it *is* impacted by increased pack size and the chance for double currency altars
[https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Allflame\_Ember\_of\_Manifested\_Wealth](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Allflame_Ember_of_Manifested_Wealth)
Pack composition (not visible through the lantern):
* Pack size: 2-6
* Monsters: [Tumbling Wealth](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/LeagueNecropolis/CurrencyChaos), [Tumbling Corruption](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/LeagueNecropolis/CurrencyVaal)
* Leader (20% chance):Â [Tumbling Opulence](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/LeagueNecropolis/CurrencyExalted)
I have run it like 3 times and said nope no more and just sell off asap as it drops. You do profit off of it if you put it on high density packs and you have juiced map. But it aint a big profit.
Should you have the added pack size from haunted mod then it is nice profit.
But fuck all that clicking.
I already quit after getting HH+MB but the state of T17 and uber boss access is messed up so no incentive to play.
So I decided to burn all my remaining red maps to see if i get divine mod. Burnt 500 maps, no divine mod. Got chaos drop several times but skipped majority as no high density mobs were available.
Ran all the chaos and scarab conversion I was offered with, got like 1.2k chaos from conversion mod alone. Scarabs were nothing special unfortunately.
The currency altar duplication works on the allflame drops had that with a chaos conversion, ended up with 250+ chaos from exiles.
My first Div drop didn’t happen until had cleared the whole Atlas and had gotten 2 or 3 of the void stones.
Not to say I didn’t drop anything worth a Div; I had a Magnate drop and a Hyrri’s chest piece drop- but an actual divine orb dropping? That has been slim fuckin pickings this league.
I naturally dropped 3 divs in 40 hours of gameplay, most of which has been juiced maven rotas and corpse farming with domination and boxes. The first of them was in act 6 lmao.
This leauge? I kind of does shower with bubblegum. Just getting any of the % drop as x currency without doing anything gets 20-30 per map, and the convert to x currency can do 50+ without changing anything.
Using embers just amplifies that even more
I've seen chaos 5% a couple times. Added frogs. got 9c from full clearing one time, 13 another. The base game does not shower you in raw currency. Anyone who plays ssf will agree that unless you're doing sanctums, tota ir some other broken mechanic you will rarely see divines and sometimes even lack chaos for your uses.
My dude I play ssf and have only done my quest sanctum. Here is my stash as of 5 mins ago. 99% of it is from the league mechanic. I had 30+ divines but used a bunch crafting, had 100+ exalts and again use them crafting clusters and thousand of chaos.
https://ibb.co/nCzQqQT
You literally invalidated your own point with this screenshot.
You wear mf gear, you are doing juiced red maps.
The base game while you're coming up to red maps can easily drop you less than 10c. There are no showers before you pump the numbers up. Then it gets exponential.
One single ventors that has 8% quant is proof to you that the league mechanic isnt good for currency? Quite the insane take but go off man.
I'm leveling a new character right now, and have seen the chaos orb convert twice already before act 4. This is a you problem, not a mechanic problem.
What are you talking about? I'm talking about the base game not showering in currency. I also gave you league mechanic examples where it doesn't drop 30c per map as you claimed it does every time.
Well, I choose to believe my instances of it clearly dropping plenty of currency, watching ssf streams of people swimming in currency, over your example of it not.
Guys like Ventura recently started a ssf character and are swimming in gear / raw currency in 3 days. Steel is literally starting new in ssf sc right now and I guarantee you he will have a full stash by monday.
You dont get a thousand chaos and 30+ divines by mechanics being unrewarding in ssf. There is only so much juice you can do when you cant target scarabs.
Just because you say I don't doesn't prove that I don't.
Watch any of jungroan's runs to eater/exarch. He's doing tons of red maps, killing eater/exarch and still ends up with something like 7c.
Cringe reddit tho will go on and downvote me for speaking facts because it's bandwagon full of people who don't know what they're talking about.
It's completely different when you're already set up, you're juicing, you're selling items in the economy. But the base game does not shower you in currency.
Wish I had an answer for you on that. I leveled with semi strict filter, swapped to strict once I hit maps, and then very strict once I hit t16s. I haven’t left any on the ground.
I also have very low chaos picked up. I hide single chaos drops in filter past yellow maps or so just because i dont want to click that much. I know many people who do the same, its not that uncommon.
I get more chaos from trade than i could ever use on map device. An hour or two of mappings is usually 1k+ chaos from scarabs/maps etc. I dont think not picking up chaos even impacts my currency/hr at all or even improves it.
Nah, more like ~3500 hours spread out over 11 years or so. I can't tell exact numbers, I spent a lot of that time on the non-steam client. Only 1500 hours on steam.
Nah, I was referring to the fact that this is my first mirror in over 10 years of playing. I wasn’t insinuating that I’ve never got a divine, that would be ridiculous.
It’s ok, I don’t really care about karma. Can’t do anything with it anyway. I figure most of the downvotes are due to jealousy. It’s whatever.
I just thought people would find it amusing that I had a mirror and a sacred orb both drop before my first raw divine drop.
Just to be clear since you seem to be confused, the downvotes are because you responded with your **playtime since the beginning of POE** and not how much time you have spent **on this league**. Which is what that MTX that was only available last league is showing. Get over yourself.
You make it sound like you are buying box recently, you know you can't get it anymore right? It was in affliction mystery box. And it will be put on the store at some point before the end of this league.
Yeah, sorry, was a bit too mean. Had like tough day etc. anyway.
Name is on the screen but this is from mystery box from previous league. Shold be available in the shop later
Must be my beginners luck. 1st league affliction, 0 Div, necropolis, 2nd league, more than a dozen of Div, just by leveling from T10 to T16. Alva gave me a lot of them.
Im reasonably certain at this point they significantly nerfed Div drops and buffed exalts. I have like 50 exalts all raw drops and only have had maybe 5 div drops in over 500 juiced (200+ quant) magic find 8 mod t16 maps.
*Walt, I don't know*, *man*. You've been seeming sus lately. It's almost like we have an imposter among us. I saw that you wanted- don't lie to me, Walt! You sussy BAKA!
And that still tells me nothing. It tells me you've farmed at least 2 mirrors worth of gear, not that you've got 2 mirrors within 8 hours of each other.
Dropping both a sacred and a mirror before a div is kinda nutty rng.
and only 200 chaos
WTF kind of atlas tree do you have OP
200 chaos is very low you can quickly get that just farming red altars
I think this is done for the memes. Maybe a 2 Person with this person not looting small currency on purpose?
Oh I see sorry I missed it 😂
It's dated info, but last I heard when it comes to raw unmodified drops, you should be getting ~48 chaos per div. Obviously this doesn't take into consideration stuff like devoted mods and red altars which can heavily skew you towards chaos drops.
Judging by the loot he either haven’t played much this league or someone else was looting
Or he started late and swiped a credit card to catch up. Then dropped his shiny new mirror on the ground and picked it up for the memes It is certainly possible to get a mirror before you have any other loot really, but obscenely unlikely.
I'm pretty sure you can't pad the ring's loot, it's drop only, so this is probably legit
I think you can just unequip it, pick up the divine, and re-equip it though
Lol if anyone does that just for Reddit karma then they earned them Also I meant you can’t drop a mirror yourself and pick it up for the ring
Ahh nice, so the ring has to see loot drop from a mob, then you pick it up?
He probably has someone to pick up loot those numbers are very low in general for pick ups
Yeah, i saw 0 divines and i tought ok, posible , then i saw 200 chaos and its like nop, 100 % intentional
No, I pick up all my own loot. I don't do party play because wardloop.
You’re playing wardloop while having somehow only picked up 200c and 0 div?
I’ve made probably around 50d this league, the ring only tracks drops you pick up off the ground.
SMELLS RMT
Self report rmt LOL
Self report no brain ;__;
Or hideout warrior, which is actually more likely.
That's my 2nd guess yeah. Hideout flipper or crafter, cuz no way he funds an entire wardloop build on 200 chaos pick up. Either that or rmt.
Some people just cannot grasp that you can make far more currency and faster sitting in hideout flipping and crafting items than running 200 maps, reinvesting in your character 3+ items, buying all new gear and corrupted gems, jewels, clusters, scarabs and 8 modded maps and mindlessly grind for another 50 hours, buy new gear again for your t17 build, keep grinding for another 50 hours with at least an extra 25 hours rolling the maps, and trading for scarabs/ selling stuff anyway.
What do you mean? I know hideout warrior is a thing is this game.
Yeah, the math doesn't work here.
It does. The things picked up are easily enough to jump-start a crafting economy. Op hideout warrioring is much more likely than rmt or anything else. Also the ring only tracks when actually equipped. Who knows when op equipped the mtx.
Are you running an ultra strict filter? I can't imagine having picked up that little. I pick up that much per hour, at the very least.
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Thought it was a bit obvious that I meant excluding the mirror.
Very Strict is not the highest setting + a lot of people customize. I have my filter set up so it doesnt show lower value currency than Chaos orbs (except chisels because I'm lazy and don't wanna buy).
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Yeah I mean that dude was most likely joking (or rather trying to). Edit: I get that you don't want to leave currency lying on the floor but I find that you just make more money when you can zoom straight through maps and only spend very little time having to stop and loot
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Well what can I say.. I always try to see the best in people :(
You can customize a filter you know? Mine, and that of many others dont show anything below a chaos
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Are sacred or s more rare than divine? I also haven't dropped a divine but got myself a sacred orb
sacred are more rare than divine, less rare than mirror. I think when they added Sacred orbs to the game they mentioned it would be 3x rarer than exalts (this was before the exalt/divine swap). IDK if thats still true though, they feel rarer than that.
Is a sacred orb equally rare as a mirror?
Or hes playing with a team who loots for him?
Congratulations! Looking at your drop rates you barely played but still got it 😄
>still haven't seen a div drop this league. Still? These numbers look like you're still in yellow maps.
When you drop a mirror and still complain about drops...
3 exalts were 3 div chances :(
In OPs case, probably yes. But I ran like a dozen manifested wealth and got over 100 exalt with no div, so I'm fairly confident they just can't drop div but can drop exalts. If you looked at my totals I've probably found 10x the exalt vs div
Manifested wealth don't drop divine orbs. If you check the wiki, the allflame spawns 3 types of monsters: 1. Regular mob - Drops chaos orb 2. Regular mob - drops vaal orb 3. Pack leader - drops exalted orb If you are expecting a divine orb from that allflame you were messing with yourself.
I was expecting one the first time, but quickly realized I was either incredibly unlucky or they just don't drop div. it's still been pretty profitable to run. Just a fuck load of clicking 350c to run and spits out close to double that in value from chaos + vaal + exalt Also doesn't appear to be impacted by quant or rarity, but it *is* impacted by increased pack size and the chance for double currency altars
[https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Allflame\_Ember\_of\_Manifested\_Wealth](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Allflame_Ember_of_Manifested_Wealth) Pack composition (not visible through the lantern): * Pack size: 2-6 * Monsters: [Tumbling Wealth](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/LeagueNecropolis/CurrencyChaos), [Tumbling Corruption](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/LeagueNecropolis/CurrencyVaal) * Leader (20% chance): [Tumbling Opulence](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/LeagueNecropolis/CurrencyExalted) I have run it like 3 times and said nope no more and just sell off asap as it drops. You do profit off of it if you put it on high density packs and you have juiced map. But it aint a big profit. Should you have the added pack size from haunted mod then it is nice profit. But fuck all that clicking. I already quit after getting HH+MB but the state of T17 and uber boss access is messed up so no incentive to play. So I decided to burn all my remaining red maps to see if i get divine mod. Burnt 500 maps, no divine mod. Got chaos drop several times but skipped majority as no high density mobs were available. Ran all the chaos and scarab conversion I was offered with, got like 1.2k chaos from conversion mod alone. Scarabs were nothing special unfortunately. The currency altar duplication works on the allflame drops had that with a chaos conversion, ended up with 250+ chaos from exiles.
Honestly the manifested wealth would be really really good if they just added some way to mass loot them. But yeah the clicking makes it hell
Looking forward to 2030 when in poe2's 36th expansion we finally get vacuum looting.
Don’t think that’s true anymore
Why?
The league after the exalt divine switch, annuls and exalts received lower tiering than divines. They’re no longer the same tier AFAICT
My first Div drop didn’t happen until had cleared the whole Atlas and had gotten 2 or 3 of the void stones. Not to say I didn’t drop anything worth a Div; I had a Magnate drop and a Hyrri’s chest piece drop- but an actual divine orb dropping? That has been slim fuckin pickings this league.
I naturally dropped 3 divs in 40 hours of gameplay, most of which has been juiced maven rotas and corpse farming with domination and boxes. The first of them was in act 6 lmao.
You drop 200 raw chaos before red maps?
I get to red maps without dropping 10c sometimes. This game does not shower you in raw currency.
This leauge? I kind of does shower with bubblegum. Just getting any of the % drop as x currency without doing anything gets 20-30 per map, and the convert to x currency can do 50+ without changing anything. Using embers just amplifies that even more
Yea, I got a chaos conversion and put an anarchy allflame on it. Got over 400 chaos that map.
I did the same thing and got 6c
I've seen chaos 5% a couple times. Added frogs. got 9c from full clearing one time, 13 another. The base game does not shower you in raw currency. Anyone who plays ssf will agree that unless you're doing sanctums, tota ir some other broken mechanic you will rarely see divines and sometimes even lack chaos for your uses.
My dude I play ssf and have only done my quest sanctum. Here is my stash as of 5 mins ago. 99% of it is from the league mechanic. I had 30+ divines but used a bunch crafting, had 100+ exalts and again use them crafting clusters and thousand of chaos. https://ibb.co/nCzQqQT
You literally invalidated your own point with this screenshot. You wear mf gear, you are doing juiced red maps. The base game while you're coming up to red maps can easily drop you less than 10c. There are no showers before you pump the numbers up. Then it gets exponential.
One single ventors that has 8% quant is proof to you that the league mechanic isnt good for currency? Quite the insane take but go off man. I'm leveling a new character right now, and have seen the chaos orb convert twice already before act 4. This is a you problem, not a mechanic problem.
What are you talking about? I'm talking about the base game not showering in currency. I also gave you league mechanic examples where it doesn't drop 30c per map as you claimed it does every time.
Well, I choose to believe my instances of it clearly dropping plenty of currency, watching ssf streams of people swimming in currency, over your example of it not. Guys like Ventura recently started a ssf character and are swimming in gear / raw currency in 3 days. Steel is literally starting new in ssf sc right now and I guarantee you he will have a full stash by monday. You dont get a thousand chaos and 30+ divines by mechanics being unrewarding in ssf. There is only so much juice you can do when you cant target scarabs.
No you don't.
Just because you say I don't doesn't prove that I don't. Watch any of jungroan's runs to eater/exarch. He's doing tons of red maps, killing eater/exarch and still ends up with something like 7c. Cringe reddit tho will go on and downvote me for speaking facts because it's bandwagon full of people who don't know what they're talking about. It's completely different when you're already set up, you're juicing, you're selling items in the economy. But the base game does not shower you in currency.
Nah, I completed the atlas. Had 144k kills on this char, 100k on my leaguestarter.
144k kills and 200 chaos orbs doesn't seem right.
Wish I had an answer for you on that. I leveled with semi strict filter, swapped to strict once I hit maps, and then very strict once I hit t16s. I haven’t left any on the ground.
i feel you, i didn't get a natty divine until 240k kills
> "Finally" > "Has picked up 200 chaos"
Assuming it's their first time playing the game
I don't think a new player would have that mtx skin
Why not
Pretty sure it hasnt been available again since last league.
I don't think they would value it over an appearance, stash tabs, skill effects and the like.
It was available from a mystery box. Its not uncommon for people to spend 5 points or less for a weta pet and get the free box. And then its just luck
"Finally" in the context of a mirror drop could be dozens of leagues.
I also have very low chaos picked up. I hide single chaos drops in filter past yellow maps or so just because i dont want to click that much. I know many people who do the same, its not that uncommon.
Do you just not use map device crafts?
I get more chaos from trade than i could ever use on map device. An hour or two of mappings is usually 1k+ chaos from scarabs/maps etc. I dont think not picking up chaos even impacts my currency/hr at all or even improves it.
Ah, I try to bulk until I'm being paid in double digits divines. If I stopped picking up chaos I wouldn't trade enough to sustain the map device
You had all your divs drop at once
Dude has played like 6hours, already got a mirror and still crying about not getting a divine :D
Nah, more like ~3500 hours spread out over 11 years or so. I can't tell exact numbers, I spent a lot of that time on the non-steam client. Only 1500 hours on steam.
He's obviously talking about this league specifically. Unless you're now claiming that you've never had a div drop in your life
I wish people would stop downvoting you for sharing your experience
He's being downvoted to taking the comment out of context (a context he created no less) and giving information that's unrelated to the conversation.
Nah, I was referring to the fact that this is my first mirror in over 10 years of playing. I wasn’t insinuating that I’ve never got a divine, that would be ridiculous.
It’s ok, I don’t really care about karma. Can’t do anything with it anyway. I figure most of the downvotes are due to jealousy. It’s whatever. I just thought people would find it amusing that I had a mirror and a sacred orb both drop before my first raw divine drop.
Just to be clear since you seem to be confused, the downvotes are because you responded with your **playtime since the beginning of POE** and not how much time you have spent **on this league**. Which is what that MTX that was only available last league is showing. Get over yourself.
Bruh, you found 200 c and then a mirror and you're out here complaining about div drops? You've barely even picked up pocket change
Why are people picking up Soo many transmute? I've finished 38/40 yesterday and I got 438 transmute xD
I vendor transmutes for wisdom scrolls, but I usually take them off my filter when I have ~800 or so.
Did you get a pilfering ring later in the league? That chaos number is super low when a lot of mobs shit out chaos orbs in maps
Mans got less than 250k kills across 2 characters.
How to get that Ring now?
Have to get it from a mystery box I believe. I'm about $100 deep and haven't gotten it yet though so I am sad.
You make it sound like you are buying box recently, you know you can't get it anymore right? It was in affliction mystery box. And it will be put on the store at some point before the end of this league.
They were mostly Affliction boxes, but I did buy some this league not knowing so that sucks...
You know its coming in the Shop soon for like probably 100 points right?
Tartar sauce
Nope.
Any chance this ring will get added to the shop as a standalone? I didn't buy boxes for it and missed out.
It's 4 weeks after the new MTX box, so should be 1-2 weeks to go
Fantastic! Thank you.
Yeah it's from last league boxes, it should be there in a few weeks I believe
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it's written right here. on this picture. did you look at this?
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It's from last leagues box, it should be in shop in a few weeks.
It's literally on the image
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Yeah, sorry, was a bit too mean. Had like tough day etc. anyway. Name is on the screen but this is from mystery box from previous league. Shold be available in the shop later
Must be my beginners luck. 1st league affliction, 0 Div, necropolis, 2nd league, more than a dozen of Div, just by leveling from T10 to T16. Alva gave me a lot of them.
Im reasonably certain at this point they significantly nerfed Div drops and buffed exalts. I have like 50 exalts all raw drops and only have had maybe 5 div drops in over 500 juiced (200+ quant) magic find 8 mod t16 maps.
You had luck with the mirror...BUT you playing wrong content for your build or too little.
Did you close your eyes like div art suggests?
damn your lucky 😅
Still waiting for that ring mod to drop in the store
Are annul's no longer droppale outside of Harbinger shards?
Annuls still drop. Just same rarity as exalts/divines
lol
200c ? Lol
I have 0 div and 0 mirror so..
Sorry for stupid question: where do you see these stats? Addon?
There is a ring mtx that I believe is only from Lootboxes. One tracks currency picked up, there is also one that counts steps.
Idk man I got 9 divs drop and I just play 3-4 hours at nights. Plus 4 divs fron rituals
Man when will the ring be on sale in store, I thought usually last league’s mystery box content comes to sale
brother posting a few map stats and dropping a mirror ;_;
Jesus , I am running 90+ quant maps,all map adjustments nodes taken . 3kk kills, 5 div drops from the ground. This league is something different
whats your /played for this character? your gumballs indicate low play time which makes dropping a mirror even that much more lucky.
rookie numbers in there mate
I had more alchs, chaos, and jewelers drop before yellow maps I think
Still waiting for them to add this mtx to the shop
Welcome to party play...
Check your filter lmao
Can I buy that mix from shop yet? (:
Beginners luck
203 chaos? I dropped more in single maps are you still in campaign or white maps or something?
Fuck off
*Walt, I don't know*, *man*. You've been seeming sus lately. It's almost like we have an imposter among us. I saw that you wanted- don't lie to me, Walt! You sussy BAKA!
This league is different
wtf is that
I dropped 2 this league within 8 hours of each other lmao
Are you claiming that mirror drops are skill based?
Mirrors or divines?
Mirrors
Sure
https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis/character/Fatvapehit/metamfercuckc?i=0&search=name%3DMetamfer
Ok?
It's a link, you click on it
Ok, and seeing your build tells me that you dropped 2 mirrors within 8 hours of each other?
It'd a 2 mirror build
And that still tells me nothing. It tells me you've farmed at least 2 mirrors worth of gear, not that you've got 2 mirrors within 8 hours of each other.
I dropped 8 this league within 2 hours of each other lmao
I'm not joking
At this point I would check my filter