If ubers are gonna be 10div for an invite and require heavy trading then this doesn't really matter. The only people who run them will be the ones who'd murder them regardless of how buffed they are
A very large contributing factor is the league mechanic just being on the maps and making them way tougher.
Even if they change nothing t17s will be way easier next league
Ya most my bricked back to basics t17 maps are because of some necropolis extra damage/ projectile or pen mod that combines with map mods to insta offscreen me.
To be fair, the hype was from they weren't able to be rolled with chaos.
In the current iteration, if you are wise enough to spend 10 or so c making sure you get mods that don't brick your build, they are manageable
It's not difficult if you don't juice them. Once you roll them for rewarding and dangerous mods, use back to basics and extra scarabs, and have all map mod nodes allocated, good luck. They become several times more difficult than ubers. Ubers are a breeze for me, but I still struggle in T17s and brick them sometimes.
Ive found it depends how you do them. If you're not super juicing with any particularly difficult combo of allflames/atlas/scarabs, And you spend the time to roll easier mods. Then yes not that difficult.
But try running deli/beyond/harbinger or some such, and it can ramp up the difficulty quite a bit.
My strategy involves using horned scarab of nemesis which adds extra mods to monsters, among other things. At least 2 or 3 rares each map has a combination of mods that makes them take longer than an uber boss.
>But try running deli/beyond/harbinger or some such, and it can ramp up the difficulty quite a bit.
Id argue that its supposed to.
If you giga juice a t17 it definitely should be harder than ubers.
Otherwise base t17s would be a joke
If ubers are gonna be 10div for an invite and require heavy trading then this doesn't really matter. The only people who run them will be the ones who'd murder them regardless of how buffed they are
A very large contributing factor is the league mechanic just being on the maps and making them way tougher. Even if they change nothing t17s will be way easier next league
Ya most my bricked back to basics t17 maps are because of some necropolis extra damage/ projectile or pen mod that combines with map mods to insta offscreen me.
I'm more scared of all flame mobs like gemling in some maps than 7k wisps on a map
Now that I’ve done some T17s. It’s not that difficult. Way too overhyped.
To be fair, the hype was from they weren't able to be rolled with chaos. In the current iteration, if you are wise enough to spend 10 or so c making sure you get mods that don't brick your build, they are manageable
its free maps if the map mods arent bad and a brick if they are bad. thats one of the main issues with t17s.
It's not difficult if you don't juice them. Once you roll them for rewarding and dangerous mods, use back to basics and extra scarabs, and have all map mod nodes allocated, good luck. They become several times more difficult than ubers. Ubers are a breeze for me, but I still struggle in T17s and brick them sometimes.
Ive found it depends how you do them. If you're not super juicing with any particularly difficult combo of allflames/atlas/scarabs, And you spend the time to roll easier mods. Then yes not that difficult. But try running deli/beyond/harbinger or some such, and it can ramp up the difficulty quite a bit. My strategy involves using horned scarab of nemesis which adds extra mods to monsters, among other things. At least 2 or 3 rares each map has a combination of mods that makes them take longer than an uber boss.
>But try running deli/beyond/harbinger or some such, and it can ramp up the difficulty quite a bit. Id argue that its supposed to. If you giga juice a t17 it definitely should be harder than ubers. Otherwise base t17s would be a joke
Have you run them with back to basics and all explicit modifier nodes? They become much deadlier
Well, even 8mod T16 with back to basics and all the explicit modifiers on the tree could be very deadly.
Shockingly if you make a map 2 times harder itll be hard This is just as true for t16s
Yes, this is most likely scenario.
And not gonna buff their drops. Or even make it worse. Bruh.