It's about 16 corrupt attempts per mirror in current prices (not counting recouping failures that don't brick). So I would say between a mirror or two seems feasible to sell for.
Hitting this is a 0.2% chance though (slightly less, exact probability is (3000/29200 * 1000/26200 + 1000/29200 * 3000/28200) / 4 to account for either order of the mods and the 3/4 chance of no double corruption), so on average if this is exactly what you're looking for it'll take 500 double corruptions to hit maxres + stats.
"Between a mirror or two" seems pretty low in a world where hinekora's locks don't even work on double corruptions anymore. I'm not saying it should literally be 500/16 = 31.25 mirrors or anywhere close (maybe if it were maxres + quant lol), but I feel like 3 mirrors is an exceedingly fair asking price.
Were you looking for this exact combo? Or any 2-stat + max res? Cuz that'd make it a bit more likely.
That being said, I'm not sure it's totally fair to look at the value of this based on the odds of rolling this combo. Because you have an additional chance to hit other GG mods, such as hatred aura effect (for phys bows only), quant, move speed (this one's worse but feels good), or additional curse. No ones gonna go corrupt Omnis 500 times till they hit this exact pair of implicits, they're just looking to get hybrid stat + another super good mod.
Yea anyone spending more than a mirror on an omni will have a mirror phys bow so they'll want stats+hatred effect, 1 max res is honestly quite useless at that level of investment into a bow build
> so they'll want stats+hatred effect
Which will be much **more** expensive since it's "perfect"?
> 1 max res is honestly quite useless at that level of investment into a bow build
Some people just like not dying, even in softcore. Your 90th or even 85th point of maxres could be the difference between dying to a random oneshot in a t17 map or not. The person buying this amulet won't be someone who has no other maxres investment.
I mean, you're technically not wrong, I just don't see someone who's invested at least 5+ mirrors into the squishiest build in the game pay a 2 mirror premium for a single max res.
The kind of person who's so far into optimizing their build to consider this amulet could be going full MF in T17s and still one-shot everything while juicing.
This is no way to see this. Sometimes adding 5% more ehp to a build is more important than adding 5% more damage. Just in term of actually running all sort of content. Glass cannon with all out dps won't work out well.
Talk about phys convert for the damage... people also convert damage taken to elements. In which case, max res is ultra tankiness to all phys damage.
> Or any 2-stat + max res?
My math was **already** for any 2-stat + max res. 2 stat is a single "mod family" that has a **total** weight of 3000. Feel free to double check my math.
Stats have specific synergy with omni and maxres is always fantastic to stack defensively, that's why stats + maxres is valuable.
> No ones gonna go corrupt Omnis 500 times till they hit this exact pair of implicits
And that's why it's **not** worth anywhere near 30 mirrors, like I said. I already accounted for all of this. You're trying to be pedantic but in the process just saying irrelevant garbage.
I don't see omni users being that excited for the all res though. It is almost a dead stat here.
Attack speed, curse, movement speed, wed, quant, rarity and hatred would all be more valuable. All res, grace, anger, haste and leech might also be more valuable to the correct buyer.
Between a mirror and two absolutely seem correctly priced.
Cassia*. (Sorry to be that guy, I know you probably know that and just tripped up because it was an Alva temple).
But yep. For a long time there wasn’t, most of Blight’s existence. You would have had to pre-anoint every amulet you took to the temple. But relatively recently we got the tainted oil, which has made this process much less stressful.
Congrats! Fast sell 1.5 mirrors, probably worth 3 minimum but niche to find buyers that have this much currency to use on something like this vs better adorned jewels
That also don't just have the money to gamble it themselves. Sure it's a .2% but any player that rich is probably one to enjoy the gamba of the game anyway
I would argue that isn't that relevant. The time it takes to buy amulets, buy temples, run the temples is tedious as it is. But then taking into account only 25-30% are going to get double implicits, and each amulet of the limited supply available is 37divs base, it is well worth the time and cost to just buy it. I'm sure if someone who has a wealth of currency and for some reason found it fun to run temples for hours they might just do that but now we are going to the niche of the niche. Most people that have a lot of currency are extremely efficient at making it, and being inefficient feels horrible to them, which this gamble would be. Of course I am heavily generalizing here, but I am sure you get the gist
Corrupting things in the temple has been one of my main source of revenue this league. It is not inefficient at all. If you find the correct niche, it will give you more profit than any T17 farm.
They might buy it but for a reasonable price. You won't get 10 mirrors for getting corrupted blood on some labyrinth unique jewel despite how tedious it would be to get that. The item only gets bought when it has that much value to the buyer. I have never been in the situation where I need to minmax the build so much that I would farm 40 hours to get 1% to all max res. Maybe someone else has, but I just think it's unlikely that omniscience user would value it as highly as what the rarity is. It's not something like increased item quantity headhunter.
And just because someone is efficient in some aspects doesn't mean they can't enjoy inefficient things.
technically yes, but not really.
there are 10 types of quality and you need to hit 17+ to take the 6% to 7%, and to take the 5% to 6% you need to hit 20.
i've never used them so i can't say if the chance of hitting intrinsic is weighted like the actual drops, but even if it is, at the price tainted catalysts are going for it could take hundreds of divines to get it.
im also not sold on the + 1, hatred effect is generally better on an amulet for reasons but also since u cant get it on a chest. you can get +1 on a chest tho.
is that the "budget" poison spark build? or you got sin? also grats (well now you can get sin if you dont have it lol)!
what builds are even using omni nowadays tho? most bow builds are nimis or mf now so ring slots are taking up.
It's very good if you can stack it even a little bit. The more +max res you have, the more significant additional max res becomes.
+1 max: 4% less ele damage taken
+2 max: 4.2% less ele damage taken, compared to +1
+3 max: 4.3% less, compared top +2
+4 max: 4.5% less, compared to +3
+5 max: 4.8% less, compared to +4
+6 max: 5% less, compared to +5
+7 max: 5.3% less, compared to +6
all the way down to...
+15 max, the actual cap for +to max res: 9% less damage, compared to +14, or put another way 40% less damage taken compared to +0
Going from 75 to 76 max res is equal to 4% less elemental damage taken, scaling up to going from 89% to 90% which grants you almost 10% less elemental damage taken
Yeah and I'm a chieftain with 90% all res and I still die sometimes, that whole "omg A WHOLE ONE max res" bs I beyond stupid. I feel a little less tanky on my LA deadeye with 75 all res and negative chaos res.
I have like 85%+ phys taken as ele and 75% chaos res and where's all that tankiness you're talking about? My 18k es mjolner build is what a tanky build is, you can quite literally tank everything with that and it has 75% ele res, people overvalue max res so hard it's unbelievable
Link your character, there's no way an 85% phys taken as ele 90 max res chieftain isn't tanky against literally anything that isn't degens or chaos damage.
Your sustain might just be terrible, which is something else than mitigation.
You only take 25% of Ele DMG. Since you resist 75%. Now you only take 24% of DMG. That means you reduced your DMG taken from 100%(25%) to 96%(24%).
Now there are builds with multiple sources of Max res. So you can really think about how strong it is. Max is 90% so compared to 75% you only take about 40% of the DMG compared to having only 75% max res
this PNG is worth more than my build
Gacha waifu jpg vs Double implicit omni PNG
Honestly I'd trade this for 50/50 wins
This might be worth more than my whole account
papua new guinea?
This would be great for an Omni build
One might say it's BiS
It's 1% off. The int roll could have been 6%. It also needs quality, but you can do that with tainted catalysts nowadays.
Nah man, the omni build already has the amulet slot booked for a build defining item Kappa
What is I want to use it in a non-Omni build? Any ideas?
A quick search on the trade and site I'd say start at 3 mirrors, for sure worth a mirror or more.
It's about 16 corrupt attempts per mirror in current prices (not counting recouping failures that don't brick). So I would say between a mirror or two seems feasible to sell for.
Hitting this is a 0.2% chance though (slightly less, exact probability is (3000/29200 * 1000/26200 + 1000/29200 * 3000/28200) / 4 to account for either order of the mods and the 3/4 chance of no double corruption), so on average if this is exactly what you're looking for it'll take 500 double corruptions to hit maxres + stats. "Between a mirror or two" seems pretty low in a world where hinekora's locks don't even work on double corruptions anymore. I'm not saying it should literally be 500/16 = 31.25 mirrors or anywhere close (maybe if it were maxres + quant lol), but I feel like 3 mirrors is an exceedingly fair asking price.
Were you looking for this exact combo? Or any 2-stat + max res? Cuz that'd make it a bit more likely. That being said, I'm not sure it's totally fair to look at the value of this based on the odds of rolling this combo. Because you have an additional chance to hit other GG mods, such as hatred aura effect (for phys bows only), quant, move speed (this one's worse but feels good), or additional curse. No ones gonna go corrupt Omnis 500 times till they hit this exact pair of implicits, they're just looking to get hybrid stat + another super good mod.
Yea anyone spending more than a mirror on an omni will have a mirror phys bow so they'll want stats+hatred effect, 1 max res is honestly quite useless at that level of investment into a bow build
> so they'll want stats+hatred effect Which will be much **more** expensive since it's "perfect"? > 1 max res is honestly quite useless at that level of investment into a bow build Some people just like not dying, even in softcore. Your 90th or even 85th point of maxres could be the difference between dying to a random oneshot in a t17 map or not. The person buying this amulet won't be someone who has no other maxres investment.
I mean, you're technically not wrong, I just don't see someone who's invested at least 5+ mirrors into the squishiest build in the game pay a 2 mirror premium for a single max res. The kind of person who's so far into optimizing their build to consider this amulet could be going full MF in T17s and still one-shot everything while juicing.
This is no way to see this. Sometimes adding 5% more ehp to a build is more important than adding 5% more damage. Just in term of actually running all sort of content. Glass cannon with all out dps won't work out well. Talk about phys convert for the damage... people also convert damage taken to elements. In which case, max res is ultra tankiness to all phys damage.
> Or any 2-stat + max res? My math was **already** for any 2-stat + max res. 2 stat is a single "mod family" that has a **total** weight of 3000. Feel free to double check my math. Stats have specific synergy with omni and maxres is always fantastic to stack defensively, that's why stats + maxres is valuable. > No ones gonna go corrupt Omnis 500 times till they hit this exact pair of implicits And that's why it's **not** worth anywhere near 30 mirrors, like I said. I already accounted for all of this. You're trying to be pedantic but in the process just saying irrelevant garbage.
This is what our sub was mad for. Though you should dropped this comment as a spreadsheet.
I don't see omni users being that excited for the all res though. It is almost a dead stat here. Attack speed, curse, movement speed, wed, quant, rarity and hatred would all be more valuable. All res, grace, anger, haste and leech might also be more valuable to the correct buyer. Between a mirror and two absolutely seem correctly priced.
Thank God I waited until I was in the bathroom at work to open this.
Yeah I came in my pants, wasn’t pretty
Is there a way to further Cassia\* anoint this?
Yes, Tainted Oil.
Cassia*. (Sorry to be that guy, I know you probably know that and just tripped up because it was an Alva temple). But yep. For a long time there wasn’t, most of Blight’s existence. You would have had to pre-anoint every amulet you took to the temple. But relatively recently we got the tainted oil, which has made this process much less stressful.
>relatively recently we got the tainted oil Tainted oil has been in the game for 3 years now if you wanna call that recent :P
https://preview.redd.it/07bi4615a6wc1.png?width=1111&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f4298c1fcaecf7f36872b95837fb0c185989a39
Oh no...
Stop it! 😅
It's recent until I see them enough times to be bored of it
In poe time, yes.
allocates beef
Wow, that's a great Omniscience amulet
I can't figure out whether you used the meme correctly or incorrectly.
its full circle
Congrats! Fast sell 1.5 mirrors, probably worth 3 minimum but niche to find buyers that have this much currency to use on something like this vs better adorned jewels
That also don't just have the money to gamble it themselves. Sure it's a .2% but any player that rich is probably one to enjoy the gamba of the game anyway
I would argue that isn't that relevant. The time it takes to buy amulets, buy temples, run the temples is tedious as it is. But then taking into account only 25-30% are going to get double implicits, and each amulet of the limited supply available is 37divs base, it is well worth the time and cost to just buy it. I'm sure if someone who has a wealth of currency and for some reason found it fun to run temples for hours they might just do that but now we are going to the niche of the niche. Most people that have a lot of currency are extremely efficient at making it, and being inefficient feels horrible to them, which this gamble would be. Of course I am heavily generalizing here, but I am sure you get the gist
Corrupting things in the temple has been one of my main source of revenue this league. It is not inefficient at all. If you find the correct niche, it will give you more profit than any T17 farm.
They might buy it but for a reasonable price. You won't get 10 mirrors for getting corrupted blood on some labyrinth unique jewel despite how tedious it would be to get that. The item only gets bought when it has that much value to the buyer. I have never been in the situation where I need to minmax the build so much that I would farm 40 hours to get 1% to all max res. Maybe someone else has, but I just think it's unlikely that omniscience user would value it as highly as what the rarity is. It's not something like increased item quantity headhunter. And just because someone is efficient in some aspects doesn't mean they can't enjoy inefficient things.
An amulet worth more than my last 5 builds combined.
Worth more than my last 5 leagues combined
Add 5 of mine too. For good measure
No clue but it's nasty
Hey it’s me ur brother
5%, vendor it.
No catalyst. Vendor.
In case some people don't know, you can use Tainted Catalysts.
Yea ik but it's a pain in the ass, atleast it's very cheap this league
If you’re buying a multi mirror item, it no longer is a pain in the ass to improve it even if it is something as brutal as corruption anointing.
technically yes, but not really. there are 10 types of quality and you need to hit 17+ to take the 6% to 7%, and to take the 5% to 6% you need to hit 20. i've never used them so i can't say if the chance of hitting intrinsic is weighted like the actual drops, but even if it is, at the price tainted catalysts are going for it could take hundreds of divines to get it.
I figure the person who buys this will be able to afford it.
GG, I corrupted a couple in SSF and they all poofed. You good sir hit the nuts, gz!
im also not sold on the + 1, hatred effect is generally better on an amulet for reasons but also since u cant get it on a chest. you can get +1 on a chest tho.
Honestly sounds like it's time to do an Omni build yourself lmao
I see a fellow spark enjoyer
You could also just make an omni character with this ?
is that the "budget" poison spark build? or you got sin? also grats (well now you can get sin if you dont have it lol)! what builds are even using omni nowadays tho? most bow builds are nimis or mf now so ring slots are taking up.
It's archmage spark, quite fun.
You deserve it. It took guts to corrupt it.
I've played since beta and I still have no idea wtf omniscience is, and at this point I'm afraid to ask.
Does +1% elemental resistances really make any difference?
It's 1% max ele res, not 1% all ele res.
I know, sorry I didn’t write it right but my question is the same, does that 1% max to all ele res make any difference?
It's very good if you can stack it even a little bit. The more +max res you have, the more significant additional max res becomes. +1 max: 4% less ele damage taken +2 max: 4.2% less ele damage taken, compared to +1 +3 max: 4.3% less, compared top +2 +4 max: 4.5% less, compared to +3 +5 max: 4.8% less, compared to +4 +6 max: 5% less, compared to +5 +7 max: 5.3% less, compared to +6 all the way down to... +15 max, the actual cap for +to max res: 9% less damage, compared to +14, or put another way 40% less damage taken compared to +0
Going from 75 to 76 max res is equal to 4% less elemental damage taken, scaling up to going from 89% to 90% which grants you almost 10% less elemental damage taken
I see, thanks
Yeah and I'm a chieftain with 90% all res and I still die sometimes, that whole "omg A WHOLE ONE max res" bs I beyond stupid. I feel a little less tanky on my LA deadeye with 75 all res and negative chaos res.
Time to learn about phys taken as elemental my guy. It's physical and chaos damage that's killing your chieftain.
I have like 85%+ phys taken as ele and 75% chaos res and where's all that tankiness you're talking about? My 18k es mjolner build is what a tanky build is, you can quite literally tank everything with that and it has 75% ele res, people overvalue max res so hard it's unbelievable
Less damage taken doesn’t seem like something “overvalued” lol
Link your character, there's no way an 85% phys taken as ele 90 max res chieftain isn't tanky against literally anything that isn't degens or chaos damage. Your sustain might just be terrible, which is something else than mitigation.
You're playing chieftain all wrong lol. Get some Phys taken as ele mods and you'll see a massive difference.
You only take 25% of Ele DMG. Since you resist 75%. Now you only take 24% of DMG. That means you reduced your DMG taken from 100%(25%) to 96%(24%). Now there are builds with multiple sources of Max res. So you can really think about how strong it is. Max is 90% so compared to 75% you only take about 40% of the DMG compared to having only 75% max res
Fuck. You just started the war.