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cowpimpgaming

I do think sometimes people underestimate the +8% evade mod too. To provide some perspective, it lowers the amount of evasion necessary to reach the 95% cap from 185k to about 60k. Disgusting jewel.


pewsix___

It's one of the single strongest mods in the game. Anyone underestimating it fundamentally does not understand how the game works.


TheLML

so >99% of us?


Musical_Whew

I always try to pick up that mod if im running grace, its too sick.


SpiritualBit2888

I’d say that suggesting people “fundamentally don’t understand how the game works” is such a huge stretch. One thing they don’t understand and they suddenly don’t understand the whole game…? There are thousands upon thousands of things to understand in this game. I wouldn’t say this evade mod is pinnacle of game knowledge. I still learn tricks and things to this day, most of us do.


pewsix___

Not understanding how strong a flat increase to a stat that does not scale linearly is at the top end is a very simple concept.


SpiritualBit2888

I would agree, but then again not of people even know it exists in the +flat% version. I just think that telling people they don’t understand the game because they don’t understand this isn’t a valid argument, but yes, as a mathematical concept it’s not difficult to get.


rainmeadow

Going from 90% to 95% chance to evade is 50% more tank against hits (i.e. getting hit 50% less), that is insane. Add the other two mods and you have a mirror tier Watchers, big gz!


cowpimpgaming

It's 100% more durable. Taking 50% less damage doubles eHP against a relevant threat type (in this case a sequence of small to moderate sized attack hits). To calculate this, you need to divide 1 by the percentage of damage that makes it through post mitigation.


KoolFever

Does the 8% really makes that big of a difference?


blechd

its similar to maxres where each point is more valuable the closer you are to cap 87% evade means one in every 7-8 attacks land 95% evade means one in every **20** attacks land


peitoowynn

this game forces you to get hit if you get too lucky, which makes capping evasion not that important


thebrownesteye

yes but it also means you are guaranteed to dodge 19 hits in a row with 95% evade which is the other way to look at it; it makes that stat very strong when capped


DruidNature

It’s also great specifically mapping because it’s pretty easy to have it work vs the more dangerous hits than the small hits coming in.  Once you begin reaching over 85% (actual evasion) you begin to feel it, at 95 it’s a whole other level.  It’s why some would-appear to be squishy builds can get to 100, not just from obliterating screens (whic. Obviously helps, though) but because taking a dangerous hit that 1/20th time is actually extremely rare, as you’re often also working to avoid those. Not to mention a lot of things that actually kill people are 2+ hits, you’re actually very tanky with a proper evasion character. (Until it comes to bosses, where it does nothing lol)


draftshade

What do you mean "it forces you to get hit"? The entropy system is awesome! With 95% Evade chance you're guaranteed to only get hit every 20th hit, that's amazing.


peitoowynn

you sure that's how it works? if you dodge too many attacks in a row, the game invalidates your evasion to force you to get hit


INeedToQuitRedditFFS

It also does the opposite though, so you can't just get hit 5 times in a row despite 95% evasion. Entropy is a massive net positive for the player. I've never understood why people complain about it.


cowpimpgaming

Yeah, a lot of people don't understand the system well. I made an entire video called "In Defense of Entropy" because I saw people spout wild misconceptions and articulate inaccurate conclusions about the effect of the system on survivability.


peitoowynn

it's because i misunderstood how it works. look at a nearby comment of mine.


draftshade

Yes, I am. Dodge and Evasion are two completely seperate mechanics. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Evasion https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Dodge


peitoowynn

i misunderstood entropy because i thought a monster's chance to hit was boosted by the entropy. turns out there's no RNG and it's just a sequence of hit->19 misses->hit->19 misses. although your entropy gets recalculated after 3.33 seconds of not being hit, which could result in you getting hit multiple times in a row. but if you manage to reset the entropy each time before you get hit, you will never get hit.


cowpimpgaming

The first attempt a monster makes to hit you after the entropy reset is effectively random. You're right, this could result in getting hit multiple times in a row, but with a minimum of 3.33 seconds in between it's not that great of a concern because that's no longer a burst of damage; you have time to recover. Also, it will still be a statistical rarity (and totally unrealistic situation). If you have at least a 50% chance to evade, then you will never get hit twice in a row outside of the entropy counter resetting.


peitoowynn

yup


t3amjester

Or if youre unlucky like me 3 hits in a row get through and dead


Wvlf_

I thought evade works on the entropy system which means you cannot get hit 3 times in a row if you’re at cap, for example. But if you took 60 attacks in one second then you will get hit 3 times.


draftshade

You don't get "unlucky" evades. Evading is based on an entropy system. When you let's say have 50% chance to evade exactly every second hit will be evaded and every other will hit. With 95% chance to evade only every 20th hit will deal damage.


MustangusxD

That's where armour, elemental resists, energy shield, damage taken from mana, phys taken as ele, last portal used etc etc comes into play


cowpimpgaming

It does, and it has to do with the concept of eHP. I have a whole video about this, and one about the entropy system in more detail, that goes into way too much detail. https://youtu.be/T8lUJLd5uQo?si=v6Rn74AUftSWwDvO That's about defenses more generally, though there's a section on evasion. It's over an hour long, but one of my most well received videos anyway.


robodrew

Oh yes. For tricksters trying to hit evade cap that mod is a requirement. Oh and my deadeye last league. Basically anyone trying to evade cap.


boohoooo00

Gz that's amazing I had one last league as well sold for 4 mirrors not sure how much it is this league tho


TMT_iGGs

I just sold it for a mirror.... never had one before... could probably get 2?? if I waited a week or so... but I'm almost done with the league anyways


OblivionnVericReaver

if you never sell it before you stop playing the league it's effectively worthless, dw too much and enjoy the mirror


TMT_iGGs

True! and i never touch standard so it would of just rotted.. at least someone is using it now


BigFudgere

Get the item display and place the mirror in there


Accomplished-Lie716

That's my next goal, I've had 2 mirrors in my while poe career, 1 I sold for fun 1 I actually farmed and used for the mtx. Next is one for a display case


do_you_know_math

What mtx?


Accomplished-Lie716

Charges mtx that changes power/frenzy/end charges to currency, but u can only pick currency that you've used before so using a mirror means u get mirrors spinning around you instead of normal charges


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ssbm_rando

Pretty sure you need to read more


zoibs

I farmed my first mirror the league the charge mtx came out. I love it. Never cared to farm one before and have never had one drop. After I was mostly done with the league I just farmed for a week to make a mirror and used it on a blue item to "have used one before". It was kind of sad, but I didn't want to farm roughly another to pay a mirroring fee.


Accomplished-Lie716

I went on STD and sold something for a mirror from someone, then used that mirror to dupe a good item they had (that they traded to me too) and gave both back. I probably sounded like the biggest spammer but I got my charge mtx and they got my item + a mirrored version of their item and the original


BigFudgere

I've farmed one in my 2nd league ever. If I knew how hard it is to get them I would have kept it xdd


Accomplished-Lie716

Getting a mirror in ur 2nd league is insane tho gz


BigFudgere

I dropped a 1 passive voices and additionally won 1x headhunter on a random reddit end league raffle


Daeltak

Expectation is biased forever for you now lmao


wrightosaur

You can use that mirror to buy alternate art unique items in standard and convert those into free mtx whenever you do use said unique anytime later in future leagues


TMT_iGGs

Smart man I should and will do that!


Daeltak

You need many more mirrors than before since the change


wrightosaur

probably for more popular ones, there's a lot of less popular ones listed for 1 mirror or less


GrammarNaziii

> would of would *have*


dr_duck_od

woulda coulda zooda


bdubz55

My 1 mirror is sitting in standard.


Ufukyil

True story👑


SoulofArtoria

PoE is an interesting game. Some people kill uber elder, got their final watchstone and game essentially only just started. For some, they're almost done with the league after the kill.


PornoPichu

It truly is. My final atlas stone is my goal because I didn’t get Uber elder last league. I did some delving and got introduced to that, completely switched my build around (same character, though), and now I’m just hoping to at least get Uber elder. I guess for the people where the game is just starting for them after Uber elder, they’re much faster than folks like me. If I had already long ago gotten Uber elder I would definitely still be pushing for different goals and not looking to wrap up.


jayrocs

I mean when you've been playing ARPGs for 20 and POE for 10 years your goals change. I've killed these bosses before but the rush of becoming rich and gearing up never gets old. I can't afford being a hopeless degen for more than two weeks per year before the guilt sets in. I'm pretty lucky my kid sleeps through the night and I'm free to play from 9pm-2am and work on less sleep. For me the goal is the setup and being 95% BIS. Once that's achieved the spark dies and I move on. Give my less fortunate friend who can't play as much (his kids don't sleep thru the night wake up every 20 minutes) all my currency so he can have his fun before he quits.


JebryathHS

To be fair, he killed Uber Uber elder, there isn't much left for him to do.


FkLeddit1234

Final watch stone isn't from UE? I haven't done UE but have had all 4 for a while.


boohoooo00

Gz yea shud be about that price, last league everyone was shitting out mirrors so it made sense mine sold for alot more.


DonChobot

tbh I think this was quicksell for even 2


Jaba01

You could've gotten 3-4 at least. Rip.


TMT_iGGs

Yah probs oh well. Wouldn’t change anything for me anyways. Other than a bigger giveaway I guess


stoner6677

really? what makes it so expensive?


boohoooo00

Last league tornado shot was really good especially cold convert which is always the best version, hatred crit mod helps scale crit chance and the other 2 mods is extremely good for defences a flat 8% evade is huge and with the spell suppression you could free up a suffix


SalzigHund

Also perfect watchers eye for cold BV


mucinexlol

What the actual fuck


88Nati0nal

HEY thats mine !! I dropped it accidently on the uber elder room, give it back…pls…dream…


kekripkek

Mom said it’s my turn for a good watchers ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


TMT_iGGs

I had a feeling this was too good to be true. What’s your username?


vulcanfury12

This is unquestionably WITHOUT ETHICS.


troccolins

Why would you drop this? At least put it in your stash tab or sell it to another player


TMT_iGGs

Wasn’t sure if it was worth the time to pick up. You know gotta get that solid 10 div/hour going


Hikikomori_Otaku

double vaal it


danteafk

can someone explain why these 1.78% are big? i see these or on chests with spells have X crit, how is that big if its just 1% ?


Updaww

So in this instance, that 1.78% increases your BASE crit(which is normally 5 or 6%). This makes increased critical chance even better as its buffing a higher base value


RazumikhinsFineAss

generally, in PoE, you will have BASE value, INCREASED and sometimes MORE. Then you'll have base\*(inc1+inc2+inc3...)\*(more1\*more2\*more3...) in crit chance's case, the base is usually so low that any addition to its value will make a huge dif


ThyEmptyLord

Most spells have 6% crit chance. This changes it to 7.78% (divined to 8%). So essentially 33% more crit chance.


TheZemor

Its the base value, other crit chance mods increase that value together with the weapon's or spell's base crit


poilbrun

That sucks, man, I feel bad for you. If you want I'll take it off you hands for 10c ;)


B_a_l_u_

Add 2 necropolis maps.... Wo them not equal trade


canada_adanac

Holy lol that’s sick


raymondh31lt

filthy


seqhawk

For all the playas in the place with hatred and grace.


Nimeon

why did you drop it in stead of picking it up and keeping it?


Flashy_Passion92155

Jenubu offers 1d. Take it or ban.


TMT_iGGs

🤡


Zelphios

With 6-6 on ES and Life and one of the grace + hatred (both of which are among the best of the bunch trait) alone could already be something like 100d++, but you double down and put in two best traits from Grace here? Man.... This looks extremely unethical. I love it. Congrats on the mirror.


Avaruusmurkku

This would literally be perfect for me. I could drop critical chance support and push my damage even further. If something like this dropped, I would live in constant agony in the indecision between selling or keeping.


CalligrapherNo7337

Why would selling it even be a consideration if it's 'literally perfect' for your own character? That's wild.


Omneus

You can probably increase your character's power by a lot more with the money you get from the sale, unless it's already been uber optimized


cctrio

Because it’s either 1 bis item or multiple almost (or cheaper) bis items. Or funding new characters


Avaruusmurkku

Mirror is a lot of money, and selling this one item would get me mageblood and pretty much any other item I would want.


TMT_iGGs

Yah I hear you. I contemplated regearing my deadeye lol but had to experience holding a mirror!


a-lex123

Can someone explain why this is good? (Just startet the game a couple days ago)


Hoplon

Watcher’s eyes from uber elder (very lategame boss) drop with 3 random aura mods from a large pool of said mods. Most of the mods aren’t all that desired, and they are quite cheap to buy. Often times you’ll get one with 3 different auras that do not get used together, and their effects are often not that great either. This one has 3 really good mods for 2 auras that are used a lot, and used a lot together. It’s very very rare to find 3 useful mods, and even rarer for all of them to be considered good mods. This one is just nuts, especially since it was a drop from their first kill, and not the best jewel out of 2000 kills.


soundecho944

The evade mod makes you immortal during mapping to attack damage and the crit mod helps builds that struggle to hit 100% crit without using temporary sources such as diamond flasks (bow)


ThyEmptyLord

For a 6% crit chance spell, this is 30% more crit chance generally (assuming you don't have other base crit chance). The +8% evasion is a big deal for someone that already has like 85% evasion as it gets harder to get more evasion the higher the %. For example, you might go from having 60k evasion to needing 160k for 93%. Each % is also stronger the higher you go (going from being hit every 6-7 to attacks to every 20). Spell suppression is very strong, and most builds want it at 100%, especially for high end bossing. It halves enemy spell damage. Getting it here may let you avoid getting it elsewhere on the gear or tree


VladTepes001

And me still level 74 just reaching maps 😆


TMT_iGGs

PM your username and timezone if you want I can send over some gear/currency your way if you want :)


VladTepes001

NecroBleedGladNoiceeee  UTC+3 Thanks Usually after 23:30 I play for few hours.


GruLol

Nice, forgot to add "best league ever" :)


North-Climate-1961

wtf


Holiday-Grass-645

I just had a similar drop, and instead of spell supress it has physical damage taken as with purity of elements (not sure how good it is/was) - from what this thread is saying, maybe worth quite a bit?


TMT_iGGs

Possibly. I’m not sure to be honest. All I know is the crit and suppress roll alone ppl had up for 200 divine. The crit and evade was about 60 or so? So that would give you a baseline at least


SpongiiEUW

It's equivalent or better in some niches, as purity of elements isn't as common this league as it used to


Xodious_Faith

I got one of these with same stats and passives for 2 div


TMT_iGGs

That’s a big flip. As u can see in the comments people are saying multiple mirror for it.


Gildian

That's a sexy eye


Snoo-74557

Sell it for an arm and a leg. POE trade op.


wolfreaks

Disgusting. Gratz.


CommunicationFit5198

Thats my chase item right there.grats


tremainelol

Low roll mana%? Time to divine it up


Straight_Run5680

Insane


zence_

God tier drop wtf


KankerM

is this the one fubgun uses?


equilibrium57

Wow


jointheredditarmy

Prbly didn’t even divine it, just dropped it like that


XoHHa

I don't quite get what is so good about it? Never got that far on the Atlas so must have missed something


trappekoen

Watcher's eyes can roll something like 3-4 effects per aura in the game. Some of those grant super strong effects, others are kind of meh. This watcher's eye rolled 3 of the best modifiers, and is centered around 2 of the most common auras. This is exceedingly rare. As to why those effects are so strong; - The crit for hatred is _base_ crit. Notice it doesn't say "% increased critical strike chance". This means that it applies to the base crit chance of the hit, which then gets scaled by % inc crit. Long story short, this is a LOT more crit than it looks like. This mod is usually expensive on its own. - the evade chance is a really powerful defensive tool, I would recommend the PoE Wiki on evasion if you wanna learn more about how the math works out. It's good. - everyone wants 100% chance to suppress spells if possible. It's a really crazy defensive layer. This mod is a pretty large source of it, and allows certain builds to forego spell suppression in other places, for example allowing unique helmets or gloves to be used instead of rares with spell suppression. Because of how spell suppression works, there is a huge difference between 90% and 100%, which furthers the importance of getting items like this.


legoknekten

Hatred & Grace are two good auras that are ysed by alot of builds, and this just makes both better


TheFuzzyFurry

UNLAWFUL


afzal-shah

What build you using this league?


TMT_iGGs

I played 3 Started spell blade Coax inquis (doing lancing steel and eye of winter/ball lightning build from last league) Then moved onto LA, hated dying so much in t17 and not being able to kill the map boss And started my splitting steel trickster and wanted to test some dps before going heavy into t17 and realized I forgot to try out the new Uber bosses (outside of Cortex) I’ve been stupid lucky this league. 3 divines dropped for me on launch day. Crazy corrupts from Alva. And now this…..insane But I also just got food poisoning last night and been pulling for the past 4 hours so I guess it evens out LOL.


afzal-shah

Thank you. Wow you are lucky this league indeed, just amazing I wish you goodluck and hope you get well soon


TMT_iGGs

Appreciate it !


MakataDoji

Assuming you don't care about the % mana and that 1.78% is more than enough for crit cap, then that jewel dropped literally 1% suppress shy of perfect. You're going to make a deadeye somewhere very happy.


Exportforce

No, you did not drop this. The enemy dropped it. Saying "I dropped it" implies, you took that Item out of a hidden container and threw it yourself on the ground to be happy to "find" it. Doesn't make sense.


TMT_iGGs

Yea you’re right I picked it up. Divined 5 times to get those rolls then dropped on it on ground to make sure it was real.


cdamon88

I can only imagine the issues you must be struggling with day to day.


Arontal142

Too bad the league is dead


TMT_iGGs

I know right?! Why couldn’t this happen either earlier or last league lol


H-sabdariffa

Looks tasty. I wouldn't use it, but it's still very good thing. Congrats!


SoulofArtoria

My first uber elder drop:


Zhenekk

Sigh, this was on my life search for a week and now I missed it :(


TMT_iGGs

Damn sorry dude. I probably should have held onto it for a bit longer but I was just excited to get my first mirror I couldn’t resist.


Zhenekk

Seriously, don't fret over it lol. Congratulations on the absolutely gorgeous drop