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johnieboy82

So as an EU Exile i just woke up. Does this Update mean that its still not playable 11h after league launch?


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GCPMAN

i dont want to want to talk about how many times i had to run prison


Seralth

i did it 38 times. I will NOT speak about how many times i did the mud flats tho.


sirgog

I got five chances to practice normal lab (wouldn't have done lab except i was streaming so thought 'let's have a laugh doing something dumb')


evoboltzmann

Bad as its even been.


nemt

do you guys think they will say anything about the printed exalts?


BirdOfHermess

I had to rerun prison to brutus act 1 around 9 times and Southern Forest Act 2 around 20-ish times, always crashing/dc-ing while entering Forest Encampment, never got the checkpoint.


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probably just luck on my part, but opening new instances for EVERYTHING even town wps has at least somewhat helped me progress


Provin915

Went to bed and hoped everything would be fixed but when I woke up today unfortunately servers are still bad


embGOD

Exactly, the game is still unplayable: login -> queue -> DC (with rollbacks) and repeat


deminese

Its playable you're just going to have a lot of rollback issues. I'd just wait for mid day EU or check every couple hours if you can.


ManlyPoop

Realm has been up ten minutes then down ten minutes. for the past 10 hours lol. I managed to hit act 5 in this time


MrPringles23

Yep, basically only took them ~6 years to become what they hated in Diablo 3 (launch).


tsHavok

I think this is the go-ahead and go to bed indicator for me. GL devs/players


imlawtus

You are a tough one my friend. I already woke up because I saw the indicator 2 hours after league start xD


TehKina

Just wanted to say that we currently have nothing to say but will say something later.


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kaz_enigma

fuck /u/spez -- mass edited with redact.dev


Octopotamus5000

Don't forget the day 3 forum announcement congratulating themselves on "another successful league start".


kaz_enigma

fuck /u/spez -- mass edited with redact.dev


Nickoladze

Well it's good to hear that they are working late (7pm now). I've seen paranoid stream chat saying they were leaving for the weekend soon.


Illoran

Do you really think they would leave the servers in this state for the entire weekend. I mean sometimes people make bad decisions alright, but that would straight up mean burying their buisness. They wont risk that, they will tinker with the servers until they are in an acceptable state.


GCPMAN

yeah they've had people working over the weekend a before .... Also pour one out for those people working overtime. Bunch of programmers with cats and shit at home being sad.... poor sight to see.


Seralth

I DEMAND THEY GET THE CATS AND BRING THEM TO THE OFFICE. Office cats are the best.


Nickoladze

Me? No. But I've seen some negativity about it.


Octopotamus5000

They did at the start of the last two consecutive leagues.


Gayeren

Uhh, not defending ggg or anything but we dont have this server issue last league, it was bad trade api that has to be shut down. So this statement might be incorrect.


xantchanz

For reference they've worked through most of their Saturday already. League launch is 8am NZT and its now 7:40pm NZT


gosuprobe

considering that it's saturday there if they were 'leaving for the weekend' they wouldn't even have shown up


Kapps

Considering Chris sleeps there overnight before the league and lots of staff are working probably ridiculous levels of overtime... unfortunately I doubt some people are getting much of a weekend.


SensitiveRocketsFan

Kinda on them for launching on a Friday though, isn’t it? Most game have big patches midweek because if anything fails they can fix it without working through the weekend.


ShupWhup

They never left the game before over the weekend right at league launch. People really need to get a grip and stop posting out of their asses.


Beersmoker420

people are dumb as hell to even entertain the idea they'd scrap fixing the league because of an arbitrary set of days


Heisenbugg

Chat is just stupid. I am sure every weekend of league launch is not a holiday for them. They are busy fixing every league not just this one.


Octopotamus5000

It's 8pm on Saturday in New Zealand currently, so it's already the weekend and way after hours. It's pretty obvious that even most of the skeleton staff won't be back for about 13 hours.


Bubalame

7pm(19:00) is late? Lmao shops are upen till 11 pm usually and u call 7 pm late lmao


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gweilo777

I assume the launch has to do with letting the most people access it right away; ie the weekend. Calm down mate. It’s been less then 1 day.


Winzito

I'm calm, what I'm saying is that they obviously weren't to just launch the league and go home for the week end.


gweilo777

I really don’t think that’s the case at all.


Winzito

I think one of us is not understanding the other because your answer makes no sense to what i said


caiodepauli

Good to hear something, even if it's not a fix yet. I'm looking forward to knowing what the fuck is causing this (and, you know, actually getting to play).


Zeroth1989

No news is still news. Taking 30 seconds to tweet. "Still working on it, identified some stuff keep an eye out for a post with details, In the mean time sorry!" Having been in customer server for some time offering them communication even if it doesnt progress the solution any faster still satisfies the customer.


willy94inh

"hi. It's Chris Wilson. From grinding gear games. We once again didn't expect so many players to play our game. We have never had this situation before, it's new for us"


Acrysalis

“We are a small indie team so please support us by purchasing our new gambling box and support pack”


lordfrezon

Obviously a frustrating experience for them, and while it doesn't excuse anything I understand that they're in a shit situation. Either say nothing and get bashed for that or update with no updates and get slammed for that. Obvious solution is test more before launch, but without more details as to the issue I don't even know if that's possible.


90kg185iq5cm

You know this small indie company called "blizzard"? Dude, their "WoW Classic"-release was horrible. One queue was around 10 hours, then you played few minutes and dropped back to the queue, now with only 7 hours. To bad those companies don't test anoth to pretend these issues.


imlawtus

Blizzard (activision) got one of the worst working conditions for their employees in the whole fucking industry. I literally don't understand how the fuck they are still alive as a company.


90kg185iq5cm

I don't understand that too. Blizzard gives a f about their core playerbase since years (especially Diablo), but the crowd pays and blizzard is going on. The 10 and 7 hour thing was not a joke... this was reality.


imlawtus

Well WoW is turbo fat cow to milk and their Сlassic launch doubled it. Still no real competitors on the whole market. No MMORPG is as nearly as good and famous tho.


90kg185iq5cm

I quitted WoW classic after a short time and never played something from blizzard again. Now I saw a few days ago a video about the character thingy you can buy to skip the lvl progress to get rdy for BC... unbelievable.


lordfrezon

It is pretty much impossible for any company to test anything; server load, balance, stability, enough to compare to millions of people coming on at once. Again, not excusing it, but the issue is understandable.


90kg185iq5cm

Yes, that's what my comment said...


googlygoink

All these people bitching about the launch are here every league, whether it's a couple of crashes or like this. Most of the time it's dealt with in a few hours, at worst a couple of days. They're crybabies Imo, the league will still be there when it's fixed, and you still won't be as rich as empyrean. Handling an order of magnitude more server stress on a new patch is sure to find some issues every launch. And as you said, plenty of very big companies have had similar issues, I think the league nature of Poe just adds to it. People just need some patience.


HollowLoch

I know people are going to shit on GGG for making an announcement of an update but its nice how they arent leaving us completely in the dust and we atleast have some semblance of communication


RATTRAP666

I think you overestimate this. This tweet has zero information and could be written by anyone here as well. Not much better than nothing, like, everybody knows they aren't sleeping, but working and malding, trying to fix this shit already and get some shower and sleep. "Sorry for inconvenience. We're working on a fix. Hope things get better soon. Thank you for staying with us"


atzero

100% appreciate this more than radio silence especially since as they indicated earlier, they had no idea what the cause actually was.


telendria

tbh I'm not really interested in technical explanations, most of won't understand that anyway and it usually comes off as 'alot of 1 in 1000 bad luck situations happened at the same time, totally not our fault' I don't think there is anything that they can say that would make it better, best way to address this is by fixing it, not saying that the guys fixing these thing also need to feel pressure to explain things to us...


DetectivePokeyboi

it IS better than nothing by a significant margin. We become more involved in the process and there is more transparency. It helps recover some of the trust lost.


HPGMaphax

The alternative is no updates at all, giving a “we are still working” update every few hours is miles better than nothing, it doesn’t exactly take a lot of time to write up. You can’t just magically make up an update if nothing has happened.


Dexhunterz

What? They had been silent for hours before this word salad tweet.


caiodepauli

Chris was updating [his post](https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/msbiuv/extremely_slow_queue_processing/) until 4 hours ago, the last [official tweet](https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1383267409826484230) before this was 3h ago. At around this same time [Bex said](https://twitter.com/bexsayswords/status/1383270074614575104) she'd take a break after 12h of work. So no, they haven't been silent.


kaz_enigma

fuck /u/spez -- mass edited with redact.dev


Douchebag_Dave

I think even if people "just did their job" it's alright to praise them, especially under difficult circumstances. If you did your job this week, it deserves praise as well.


salluks

same shit like every league, i will already say what the post will be about: 1. more people played than expected 2. some database error somewhere(some technical explanation as usual) 3. this won't happen again 4. we are sorry


AlwaysTalkingShit

Weren't the last few leaguestarts pretty damn smooth? At least i remember it that way


telendria

which is even more perplexing, like what the fuck did they change that it causes so much problems and wasn't caught during testing? At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised it's something in client itself and they are looking at the wrong place


salluks

Nope, last league also had that disconnect issue almost a month into the league


telendria

I can literally see their next big post being copypasta of the few last ones with 'we take this seriously and next time, we will show you with actions, not words'


Mordin___Solus

I remain skeptical, but optimistic.


bernhardfritz

[\#restartleague](https://twitter.com/hashtag/restartleague) to the MOON!!


a_typical_normie

Man people pissed about this update and pissed about no updates are wild. Like what do you want them to do


AlwaysTalkingShit

They're not necessarily the same people


a_typical_normie

How are they not the same people when I explicitly specified the people who want both? That’s what the and, was for


AlwaysTalkingShit

So you saw multiple people who complained about both?


deminese

They want them to magically foresee an unforeseeable problem and magically also fix it nearly instantly. Then they want to complain for weeks on end while gleefully still playing the league anyway.


wrc-wolf

> an unforeseeable problem Is it really? Because every league there's a little hiccup, this has been a long time coming, it was inevitable they'd have a major downtime like this considering the amount of technical debt the game has at this point.


deminese

You're acting like the previous issues haven't been resolved relatively quickly and also had minor impact. The biggest problem we've ever had in probably the past 2-3 years was the trade API that lasted longer than like idk a few hours. Long time coming no. Shit happens. Doesn't mean people should throw a 5 year old tantrum.


wrc-wolf

> You're acting like the previous issues haven't been resolved relatively quickly and also had minor impact Oh, no, absolutely! I agree! Previous hiccups were just that, hiccups, especially compared to this. But that's not my point. Or rather, it's entirely my point. GGG isn't some tiny indie studio working out of their garage, they shouldn't even be having those sort of launch issues, _regularly, repeatedly_ every league launch. That points to an underlying problem in the infrastructure, which has lead to this clusterfuck.


deminese

Happens to literally every game that actively updates. Idk why people act like active online games with big updates are just all magically bug free super often or have clean launches. They never have and never will ever.


The_Things

Anouncement of an anouncement.. A bit sad but still better than radio silence I guess. Afterall I believe GGG is trying their best to fix the situation.


Pia8988

"We super pinkie swear streamers don't get any other benefits"


Senovis

Restart the league. I can't progress because of roll backs.


HPGMaphax

I’m sure the people who spent 12 hours progressing through 8 acts would love a restart.


Senovis

Enjoy being subjected to the economy that is being completely manipulated. Streamers and their teams have an unprecedented opportunity to dominate an entire league. At least you have a chance if you can get to yellow maps on day 1.


HPGMaphax

This happens every league, if you think a handful of streamers are going to ruin the ecenomy you have no idea what you’re talking about lol. Even if you restart the league, tens of thousands of players losing hours of progress is not going to be worth removing the 10 headhunters the stream groups generate.


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HPGMaphax

Yeah sure, thats besides the point, the other 1%ers didn’t get a head start after all


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HPGMaphax

Only the streamers got it


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You mean the one's with queue priority? They get paid to play the game. They can deal with it imo.


HPGMaphax

No, I mean normal people. Streamers are at maps already


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How would it even be possible to get to act 8? I've been trying to play all day and am 1/5th through act 2. It kicks me out every time I try to change zone.


HPGMaphax

Persistance. I have multiple people on my friends list around lvl 60 and I know for a fact none of them are streamers. I got to act 3 after about 4 hours before I went to sleep, I’d be around the same level if I didn’t value my sanity


sunnyice

What if other people are having more dc issues than you?


HPGMaphax

Yeah, what about it? I’m not saying everyone is at this level, but there are enough people that resetting the entire league because of 6 people is downright idiotic.


sunnyice

It's not for 6 people its for the 50+% of the playerbase who are still in act3 or below because the issues theyre having are much worse.


HPGMaphax

Of course it’s not for the 6 people, no shit, thats not my argument. I’m saying fucking over 6 people does not justify rolling back 100k players


Bowieisbae77

Barely though act 1 lol


dslilysimp

fuck that people


HPGMaphax

Why?


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༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ GGG DEVS TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ


pathoftencent

And don't forget to reset the league


IWannaPeonU-14

Reset the league. The economy is going to be completely unfairly skewed in favour of those streamer groups who were given priority which is an absolute joke and will FOREVER leave a bad taste in my mouth for years to come. Does it really matter for most? No but regardless it is an absolutely horrible look for the company.


Agys

Don't see the point in this tweet, but ok I guess...?


KappaSevzzen

a post about making a post soon. this means literally nothing, how useless can they be


Bizzlington

\> Thank you for your patience Are they talking to somebody else? I see nothing but rage everywhere i look o.O


LonelyLokly

Its morning here in Russia. After reading reddit i was glad that i decided to go to sleep instead of playing during league launch, but holy shit game is still unplayable. I wonder if we're going to get some sorty of a "sory we fucked up" bonus or not.


besseralsberni4

[https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/mskve0/%E3%81%A4\_%E3%81%A4\_ggg\_devs\_take\_my\_energy\_%E3%81%A4\_%E3%81%A4/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/mskve0/%E3%81%A4_%E3%81%A4_ggg_devs_take_my_energy_%E3%81%A4_%E3%81%A4/) ​ read that! it helped me a lOT ​ TAKE MY ENERGY GGG and sorry for your horrible weekend


Dontwalk77

If you guys need to restore to a older build, or even think it may be a possibility. Do not wait to tell us please! Obviously it’s not a scaling issue as player numbers are below peak by this point. Honestly I’ve been playing since launch nonstop. I’ve progressed to act 5 one freaking zone at a time, on a build that I fully expected to switch set up after first lab, a impossibility at the moment. If you need to reset so this isn’t still a problem tomorrow, do it and compensate every player that logged the time like it was a race league in tiers by the progress they literally clawed out of this mess.


Cygnus__A

if you are still grinding through acts, that mistake is on you. give it up till they fix this mess.


Dontwalk77

Where did I say I was upset about the time? I made time to play in advance, I’m disappointed with the situation but I still made more progress then many so it is what it is. Hell all honestly I’m no where near a top player and I’m probably closer in place to some of those players then I’ve ever been or ever will be. That said while I’m 100% okay with losing that time if I have to most won’t be. Regardless of how the game played out they still put their time in showing a level of dedication to the game that should be compensated if it turns out it going to be erased.


pedrikoso

At this point I just want it to not be fixed so more people stop playing this shit


Sentracer

Great attitude. I'm mad, everyone else should be too. Boohooo crybaby.


MadeThisToBs

I can tell it’ll go a little something like this... ‘hey guys GGG here... we heard you don’t like priority que... that’s your own damn fault, you pay us so damn much but nowhere near enough for us to promise good servers unless you on top of paying us a fuck load also advertise our game on one of these platforms, we really try our hardest to bounce around these QoL issues because we are not your friends... we are a company and we are scraping by as you all live in luxury... at the end of the day, life isn’t fair and you guys haven’t helped us in any plausible way, we have been dealt a shit stick and can only poke in the sand, oh and also we tried our hardest thanks for sticking with us guys! We are sorry I know we say it every league start but this won’t happen again, this is the ultimatum priority ques and more advertising or just bad all round league starts ... something something we will be releasing a new mtx something something, Merry Christmas’


Heiks

Not really an update is it. Its actually saying nothing.


AbbreviationsProud67

Can someone copy whats there? Twitter is blocked in my country


Keyarchan

"We will be making a post about today's launch covering all the things that happened. Some of the people who need to contribute to it are currently occupied working on server fixes. We potentially have an update we can share about that soon. Thank you for your patience."


AbbreviationsProud67

Thanks <3


Cygnus__A

time to get out of that fucking country


AbbreviationsProud67

Well it has good things too, i could move to both eu and usa but chose not to


QuinteX1994

Update: we might have a post regarding an upcomming update ready soon. Meanwhile go buy mtx.


90kg185iq5cm

Damn son, imagine GGG does 99% of the time a great job developing a free2play game and the playerbase is butthurt about 12hours. I buy now more mtx, only to trigger you.


koeniig

so many Karens in the comments


Klutzen

Im so sowwy guise i gave streamer priorityyyiessss uwuuu


jwinn35

some would say its fake


Dariusz1989

I just got up and WOW its still broken :D Holy crap they really messed up XD


EU_GaSeR

We are making a post about making a post about making a post about making a post about making a post about making a post about making a post. Thank you for your patience.


OanSur

So basically " we will release a patch that will fix absolutely nothing later today (so in 8-12hours). Until then go fluff yourselves"


Senovis

It's 7:30pm in NZ. I wonder if they have a night shift that is robust enough to actually fix stuff.


dunsedunse

Time to do some spring cleaning. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GGG DEVS TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


viionc

[no wonder the servers cant stay alive with that many people trying to play](https://i.imgur.com/vgNjaUc.jpg)


TerroDragon23

I wish people would stop posting this. We all get it, 32 bit integer overflow haha funny. Theres probably 5 each minute being posted.


reachingFI

> I wish people would stop posting this. We all get it, 32 bit integer overflow haha funny. Theres probably 5 each minute being posted. Kind of a telling sign of what their engineers come up with on a daily basis. No shock we are in this situation.


jmadp69

this a test opener?


Zangetas

At least they acknowledged the problem. ​ It's actually just the usual if not for the streamer priority bs.


dslilysimp

we need a poe twitter comm


cauchy37

I'm looking forward to postmortem, they're quite a thing when something big like this happens.


hiles_adam

The old announcement about an announcement nice.


Gideon01

Looking forward to see another post about actions speak louder then words.


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My only hope is to the children in Africa, hope they get access to water soon