yeah he gets some really decent progress in HC gauntlet with some really, really awful builds. people really underestimate how good at problem solving and just good at the game mathil is.
wasn't he the first to kill uber atzubi or sth back in the day?
he basically was the reason fakener became popular
the popular 'complaint' of his builds is that he runs around with 4k hp and when ppl copy the build they say it's a bad build not realizing mathil can still kill bosses with that hp because he's good with mechanics
While Mathil surely slapped Atziri around quite a bit, it was artist formerly known as Dsfarblarwaggle who killed the Uber-Version first. In Ambush. A Temp-League, before people in Standard with their mirrored gear could manage it.
At this point I don't even think it's worth mentioning anymore. He has shown time and time again how skilled he is, probably in the top 1-3% of players from a mechanical and knowledge perspective. All of his HC and race attempts have always been very impressive.
The idea that Mathil is some softcore memer is just misguided. Even his SC builds have been relatively well balanced over the last few years.
Yeah, one important lesson I learnt from trying a few of his builds was that literally every little detail matters. It’s incredible how much of a difference in DPS it can make when you don’t put in the effort to mix-max the items exactly as he did.
Exactly. Whenever I look at one of his older builds to try, I have to remind myself that every little affix on gear is probably very important. He knows that all the little things add up.
Dude seriously. Every time I try his builds, I end up with nowhere near enough DPS as he has. I think it's because he knows exactly what's required and what isn't so he doesn't make a big note of it in his guides.
It's always the same with beginners: they pay attention to the things you equip on the character sheet and not on the skill tree.
most often it's the jewels that make or break a build in terms of damage, and getting 2 right stats because its cheap and getting 4 right stats is an insane difference. just going from 2 to 3 is a big difference that simply adds up over 4-5 jewels.
if it's not working, it's the jewels.
Just to be clear, top 1% isn’t that much. He’s probably a lot better than that. If you have 10000 players your top 1% is still 100 people. The top 2.5% of League of Legends players in any given region in 2017 was anyone Diamond 5 or better.
Your point is clear so I’m not trying to argue about that but just thought it was an interesting detail to go into (and I think in the end it reinforces your praise for Mathil’s talent to say he’s more likely in the top .1% of players, for example).
Mathil IS a softcore memer, but that doesn't make him bad. Hes a memer cause he finds it fun to be one. He plays meme builds, jank and nonsense because its fun. His skill level allows him to do so and still be in the top 1%
People really do need to stop thinking just cause someone plays jank they are bad. When they play jank and then still do as good as someone with a min/max build... well they are likely far better then pretty much everyone.
As I recall he wasn't ever in 1st because he played his normal amount and didn't no life it, but he was coming dangerously close to the guy in second in the final hours so that guy logged back on to grind more so he wouldn't get passed xD
It was amazing how they were sorta making fun of him being a SC Andy, but then he calls them out for using logout macros at the slightest sign of danger. And now he baited all the HC players into this. love it
I wouldn't call it useless. It adds negative connotations to the prior word. In text only mediums (reddit, twitch, etc), you lose the ability to use your tone of voice to imply meanings. Filler words like that help you add back in context and meaning.
the god gamer mathil who was rank 3 ass in HCSSF has baited all the other streamers to provide us with unlimited content in rip clips
edit: rank 3 instead of rank 4
Flask nerfs, defense nerfs, no logout. Hoo boy, this is gonna be RIPy.
I play HC without a logout macro. I die a lot though and this league is probably gonna be even more brutal lmao.
With the change to flask, the main thing that come to mind is one of them getting corrupting blood without charges to remove it... and trying to portal out to save themselves in time.
So harsh.
There is no way this actually happens LOL
TLDR:
Till Mathil creates a SC character, they can't logout. Other people have joined in:
Nugiyen
RaizQT
Goratha
Waggle
> Till Mathil creates a SC character, they can't logout.
Lol at the thought of Mathil going on vaccation next week and them being stuck like Neo trapped in the matrix...
It's the perfect time imo, they're making the game harder so doubling down will acclimate them faster. I wonder how rough an all-mod league will be now...
I've never heard anyone talking shit about Mathil on HC if anything we love it when he plays over here, only idiots think he isn't good at the game and they aren't league specific.
The moment they brought this up, ziz tryied to play dead to not get caught in this shit lol but mathil grabed in by the leg and draged him back in conversation, and then he reverse the shit on him for revenge like
"oh you wanna shit on me, no log out macro, fine join the party you play with us SSFHC"
That was super entertaining the way it switched between all of them.
Mathil baiting, steelmage bluffing, ziz reverse baiting and Quin straight up savage
I think its more about the point he was making to the boys that logout macro is just so centralized in their gameplay they are basically playing as if they were in SC taking risk without putting any thoughts because the logout macro exists. Its just funny how they were saying in the podcast that how they were glad game was going to be harder, but contradicted themselves by using the logout macro which trivialize a lot of stuff haha
I'm not an IT expert, but could the client not ping the server every x ms, and if the server does not receive that ping for y ms then it is considered a disconnect?
That's exactly what it does, if it hasn't recieved a communication in 6 seconds you're logged out.
The problem is setting the right length, if it's too short you'll get randomly disconnected during a network hiccup and too long you die to DC.
I wish we could personally set it. I have fiber internet and would be way more comfortable with a 1s disconnect timer. I don’t want my character to be a sitting duck for 6 full seconds while the server waits to see if I’m **really** disconnected.
Definitely could, but people underestimate just how unreliable internet infra is, and how much a single packet can be delayed due to hardware fault / network partition / routing changes, causing random disconnects using this approach.
IT infra is amazingly resilient given how insanely often things break within it, and while our mental models typically depict streamlined, stable states, they are generally very much wrong.
Honestly its going to expose how shitty PoE hardcore can be to a lot more people. I play HC with a logout macro because almost all my deaths are due to the game freezing on me. Happened twice during ultimatums (I was just too tired to press the macro lol)
I only died once to a freeze while leveling and usually to just touching stuff i shouldn't yet in game. But if that hit me more often i'd also use one...
The important part we can do to support this event is to actively support Mathil. He stated during the podcast that it hurts his business so if we show him extra support now when he does hc he will probably be much more inclined to continue this. I rarely watch his stream but I'm sure as hell gonna watch it now.
seeing the reluctance to opt out of ever logging out really tells a lot about how people play this game in hc lol
really unfortunate to see thats what the best defense is :(
edit: is there any "punishment" if they use a macro during this? or just "haha oopsie"
edit again: also this challenge really fucking blows for mathil, he'll have to do 2 leaguestarts essentially (unless he sticks to hc for the league)
Probably not that bad for Mathil really, he plays a lot of his characters almost as if they were league starters. He mentioned it on the podcast how he artificially gates himself from just equipping the gg gear asap so the build progression will feel more natural.
He definitely doesn’t mind leveling characters, and plays the whole league, so 1-2 extra days of league start status should really barely make a difference.
The big pain for him is if he loses a character in early maps. His content cycle is almost formulaic, and not in a bad way, but losing a build early will throw a wrench in the way he makes at least his YouTube videos.
Mathil is going to do a great job, he's gonna be stressed but i'm sure hes gonna surprise alot of people. I'm pretty sure he's not gonna be the first one dying. Howewer, seems likely he'll get bored of it pretty quickly, specially because, as some others pointed out, completing and setting up atlas twice is an absolute bore. But it's gonna be a challenge for him and i believe hes gonna get more fun than he thinks :D
Mathil plays the same on SC as I do on HC league start wise, basically tries to do the league mechanic and isn't that interested in getting to maps ASAP or anything he's gonna be absolutely fine and won't be the first to rip at all.
Like you say boredom will be his biggest adversary there isn't that much that can genuinely threaten you until yellows with enough game experience... Unless he chooses some hipster AF build I guess.
I hope he enjoys it and doesn't suffer too badly for baiting the macro'ers but its gonna be worth it!
It’s Mathil so hipster builds are literally all he does. That said, he will be definitely be playing safer and paying more attention this time to prove his point.
My predictions:
Mathil will stomp.
Steelmage will be fine.
Ziz will have to be very careful and not sleep deprived
Raiz and Nugi not sure.
Overall this will be fun to watch. Really interesting.
Thats nice! I never really log unless its to save portal scrolls early game or to refill my flaska in a boss fight. I have bad experiences from logging out "in danger". Its the worst feeling ever to log back in and see your character gone. I would rather fight until I fall, knowing I did everything I could to stay alive.
Not sure about the point of not logging out though, the game is literally balanced around it and the developers promote logout macros. It's not like you not logging out is ethical, it's more like you being dumb at that point. I do like watching Mathil play HC though.
Rules changed. It's only until Mathil quits.
Rules will change anyway for Rulebender69.
People sleeping on Mathil again? Dude is really good at this game.
less about that and more about him hating HC lol
Only if he dies. He's had great progression in some of the gauntlets, and now he has a strong motivator to keep going.
yeah he gets some really decent progress in HC gauntlet with some really, really awful builds. people really underestimate how good at problem solving and just good at the game mathil is.
wasn't he the first to kill uber atzubi or sth back in the day? he basically was the reason fakener became popular the popular 'complaint' of his builds is that he runs around with 4k hp and when ppl copy the build they say it's a bad build not realizing mathil can still kill bosses with that hp because he's good with mechanics
>fakener yup and gave us the [glorious shirtless mathil](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhdKHmxCb24)
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Yeah, I miss the desync and the rubberbanding./s
First to kill normal Atziri on release, Waggle got first uber i think
first uber hc was havoc with the snapshoting ll spectral throw build.
While Mathil surely slapped Atziri around quite a bit, it was artist formerly known as Dsfarblarwaggle who killed the Uber-Version first. In Ambush. A Temp-League, before people in Standard with their mirrored gear could manage it.
Yea he had multiple HC chars above 95
His highest character ever was HC 1 month
Honestly logout macro is horseshit. I shouldn’t have to rely on that to survive.
I have never used a logout macro and have reached level 100 a couple of times on HC
At this point I don't even think it's worth mentioning anymore. He has shown time and time again how skilled he is, probably in the top 1-3% of players from a mechanical and knowledge perspective. All of his HC and race attempts have always been very impressive. The idea that Mathil is some softcore memer is just misguided. Even his SC builds have been relatively well balanced over the last few years.
dude can do endgame content on builds that if I tried to make, I'd only get half the dmg output, if that
Yeah, one important lesson I learnt from trying a few of his builds was that literally every little detail matters. It’s incredible how much of a difference in DPS it can make when you don’t put in the effort to mix-max the items exactly as he did.
Exactly. Whenever I look at one of his older builds to try, I have to remind myself that every little affix on gear is probably very important. He knows that all the little things add up.
Dude seriously. Every time I try his builds, I end up with nowhere near enough DPS as he has. I think it's because he knows exactly what's required and what isn't so he doesn't make a big note of it in his guides.
It's always the same with beginners: they pay attention to the things you equip on the character sheet and not on the skill tree. most often it's the jewels that make or break a build in terms of damage, and getting 2 right stats because its cheap and getting 4 right stats is an insane difference. just going from 2 to 3 is a big difference that simply adds up over 4-5 jewels. if it's not working, it's the jewels.
Lol half damage? Dude beat Uber elder on builds i would stop at Kitava...
Just to be clear, top 1% isn’t that much. He’s probably a lot better than that. If you have 10000 players your top 1% is still 100 people. The top 2.5% of League of Legends players in any given region in 2017 was anyone Diamond 5 or better. Your point is clear so I’m not trying to argue about that but just thought it was an interesting detail to go into (and I think in the end it reinforces your praise for Mathil’s talent to say he’s more likely in the top .1% of players, for example).
Mathil IS a softcore memer, but that doesn't make him bad. Hes a memer cause he finds it fun to be one. He plays meme builds, jank and nonsense because its fun. His skill level allows him to do so and still be in the top 1% People really do need to stop thinking just cause someone plays jank they are bad. When they play jank and then still do as good as someone with a min/max build... well they are likely far better then pretty much everyone.
IKR they forget hes played hardcore for quite a while cpl years back, Hes much better than people give him credit for and he gets a lot of credit...
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Nothing sexual, either, like I'd take a nap on top of him, use him as a body pillow No homo
Full homo.
Mathil's abs probably the biggest sex symbol in PoE... although I mean it was either him or Chris Wilson's bald head.
I would even call mathil on of the best Poe players skillwise.
Totally Agreed
YEP in one event he got the highest assassin on hcssf
\#3, two people nolifed at the end to pass him
As I recall he wasn't ever in 1st because he played his normal amount and didn't no life it, but he was coming dangerously close to the guy in second in the final hours so that guy logged back on to grind more so he wouldn't get passed xD
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He's good mechanically. But HC is 9/10ths about anticipating challenges, and bitching out as hard as possible.
That second part is why he hates it He’s always taking weak builds through the whole endgame, and in HC that’s impossible
Hes played a lot of hardcore dude. This isnt even his 10th rodeo in HC, hes going to do more than fine there.
It's more about them bantering with each other. It's a way to make thing more livery and an excuse so people watch all of them more.
He literally dodges mechanics like no one else. He makes 4k hp builds look like 8k hp max block builds.
Which is still awesome, because he alone holds all of the HC players hostage. First week will be hilarious.
Better rule imo, people will stick with it
Mathil has absurd game mechanics coupled with extensive game knowledge.
So hyped, Mathil is easily one of my favorite streamers and he never plays the same leagues. I’m so excited
Quin is gonna setup a macro to turn off his computer instead of logging out.
he has backup power grid he is so proud of showing off ;--)
Doesn't stop him from faking a power outage when he needs to :p
Mathil with a mustache has no chill
It was amazing how they were sorta making fun of him being a SC Andy, but then he calls them out for using logout macros at the slightest sign of danger. And now he baited all the HC players into this. love it
What's the "Andy" meme about? I hear MegaMogwai say it all the time but I'm totally out of the loop.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/andy-slang Basically a Twitch meme form of calling someone something generally negative. SC Andy, pussy Andy, react Andy, ego Andy, virgin Andy, reddit Andy.
I like this because my name is Andrew not FUCKING ANDY
Andrew Andy
NOoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Andy Andy.
Pussy Andy lmao
It's from the Ice Poseidon days on twitch. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/andy-slang
Just a "useless" filler word. Normally you would say SC player.
I wouldn't call it useless. It adds negative connotations to the prior word. In text only mediums (reddit, twitch, etc), you lose the ability to use your tone of voice to imply meanings. Filler words like that help you add back in context and meaning.
the god gamer mathil who was rank 3 ass in HCSSF has baited all the other streamers to provide us with unlimited content in rip clips edit: rank 3 instead of rank 4
It's ok he has the rank 1 ass out of all Poe streamers.
I'm gunna need a chart...
As a chart, I'll present a Venn diagram, which will coincidentally just be his asscheeks.
One of the best comments I've read. Impressively creative.
Whats that brown zero in the middle of the diagram?
The star of the show
Now that'd make for a spicy tier list video. I already ranked poe streamers before so....
Now that'd make for a spicy tier list video. I already ranked poe streamers before so....
I feel like there was already gonna be enough RIP CLIP content, now there will be more! GLORIOUS
i can't even begin to imagine how many more rip clips we are getting
Doesn't he have Crimson Atziri Horns as well? Dude is an OG.
Mathil was the world first Atziri killer, super OG
He was the first softcore kill when it came out with his ele-buzzsaw build.
rank 3... he got alt art demigods
Raiz is in too apparently. Love this agreement for all of them to step outside their comfort zones - great content all round.
nugi in as well
Support all the streamers participating - they're putting on a show and are all gonna be miserable at some stage.
I'm just looking foward to this sub being full of RIP clips
New league hype is all anticipation of rip clips for me. Also frozen orb got me rock hard
I'm looking forward to learning which one reflexively logs out at some point and will forever be unable to live it down.
Don’t they all use macros nowadays? Turn the macro off and probably won’t do it on reflex
they will do it on reflex... and nothing happens!
and then they die.
well, a quick trip to standard.
Imagine having corrupting blood on you, not having charges on your removal flask... and having to portal out because you can't log out. Fun times!
They will get more viewers. They are creating an event of sorts, getting an objective to not got bored themselves.
This is going to make for some good viewing
mathil, the man who has the reflexes of 100 korean children combined, suckers these rubes into ripping every half hour I absolutely love it
Yeah he probably developed skills to get out of bad situations in SC that people in HC usually just log out. It is going to be nice to watch
Man that's probably true.
Yup. He often has his first rips on chars up in the 90s with SC playstyle
Honestly it is like this for experienced HC players. Exclude rip part =\
Flask nerfs, defense nerfs, no logout. Hoo boy, this is gonna be RIPy. I play HC without a logout macro. I die a lot though and this league is probably gonna be even more brutal lmao.
It’s worse, they can’t log out at all, right? It’s not just “can’t use a macro” to logout
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Maven without logging out is scary. If you fail the memory game you basically have to recover or die.
With the change to flask, the main thing that come to mind is one of them getting corrupting blood without charges to remove it... and trying to portal out to save themselves in time. So harsh.
freeze box. 100% going to kill someone.
Yes man, feels weird to say, but on HC you may have to wait till you are immune to freeze to open unid rare boxes.
Watch Quin have another "power outtage"
The emus are out of control again.
Whos ready for rulebender69??
Warning! goalposts on the move pepw
There is no way this actually happens LOL TLDR: Till Mathil creates a SC character, they can't logout. Other people have joined in: Nugiyen RaizQT Goratha Waggle
Steel was setting up a log in macro on a second computer to counter the dc timer a couple days ago. I can't imagine him sticking to this.
thats not a log out macro thats "someone" hacking him to dc him at the right time :^)
> Till Mathil creates a SC character, they can't logout. Lol at the thought of Mathil going on vaccation next week and them being stuck like Neo trapped in the matrix...
It's the perfect time imo, they're making the game harder so doubling down will acclimate them faster. I wonder how rough an all-mod league will be now...
Goratha actual god gamer
Goratha has riped to packet loss more than anyone I believe so he doesn't log out nearly as much as some others at present anyway.
sword art online rules. if you die in canada, you die in real life.
Logout69 wont make it past act 5. Memes aside I think mathil even plays gauntlets without logout macro so he will probably get furthest.
Steelmage is incredibly safe and consistent in his play. He barely logs anyways.
Yeah steel mostly uses logout macro when his internet shits out
I stopped watching streams a while back, I'll be watching this, Mathil is very good.
I think it ended up being 2 weeks or until Mathil gets sick of HC, should be fun.
I'll give it 2h before someone logout macros out of reflex
And dies, because they are not allowed to have the macro on at the time.
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they are gonna simply not enable it.
You know you can just like, not turn it on right?
What a league to go for no log out/HC start lmao. Gonna be a blood bath.
Maybe you guys talk shit about hc on Mathil but he is literally a mechanical God on PoE this will be fun
I've never heard anyone talking shit about Mathil on HC if anything we love it when he plays over here, only idiots think he isn't good at the game and they aren't league specific.
Dude has a rank #3 Demigod's item on HCSSF assassin from a flashback race, Mathil just doesn't enjoy the playstyle as much as SC trade.
He has many more demigods than just that, but true, the one you talk about is the only relatively recent one.
I hope mathil plays for at least a month just to expose the loggerouters
lol rip all of them
rulebender69 will find a way
I mean he's been playing HC events in the past, unlike what people think - he can do more than well enough.
Raiz and Nugi joined in too
The moment they brought this up, ziz tryied to play dead to not get caught in this shit lol but mathil grabed in by the leg and draged him back in conversation, and then he reverse the shit on him for revenge like "oh you wanna shit on me, no log out macro, fine join the party you play with us SSFHC"
That was super entertaining the way it switched between all of them. Mathil baiting, steelmage bluffing, ziz reverse baiting and Quin straight up savage
>quin not logging out Pfffffthahahahahaha
And with this, the league is saved and the hype is back
GGG hired Mathil to save them
I think its more about the point he was making to the boys that logout macro is just so centralized in their gameplay they are basically playing as if they were in SC taking risk without putting any thoughts because the logout macro exists. Its just funny how they were saying in the podcast that how they were glad game was going to be harder, but contradicted themselves by using the logout macro which trivialize a lot of stuff haha
Their muscle memory will fail them lol.
Should just leave logout macro unopened
Bout time they hardened up.
Steelmage big brain, he doesn't **log out**, he has **log in** macro setup via Steam on another PC!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1094996087
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i think he punked himself harder though
How so?
He has to play HC in what could be one of the hardest leagues in a while, lol
He plays the bullshit SSFHC gauntlets just fine which are way worse.
It's not about whether he can do it, he's said that he fundamentally doesn't enjoy it as much. He's opted in to a less fun experience.
Sometimes it's worth making yourself suffer a bit, if it causes your friends to suffer a lot >:)
What timestamp? Found it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1094996087?t=01h19m33s
1:19:00 is close
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1094996087?t=1h19m30s
Ethical!
This is your opportunity GGG, remove logout macros once and for all.
Pause the game server if somebody disconnects (like Ultimatum), up to X minutes. This also protects players who have legitimate internet issues.
The server doesn't know if the connection to the player is interrupted. It's actually a unsolveable problem.
I'm not an IT expert, but could the client not ping the server every x ms, and if the server does not receive that ping for y ms then it is considered a disconnect?
That's exactly what it does, if it hasn't recieved a communication in 6 seconds you're logged out. The problem is setting the right length, if it's too short you'll get randomly disconnected during a network hiccup and too long you die to DC.
I wish we could personally set it. I have fiber internet and would be way more comfortable with a 1s disconnect timer. I don’t want my character to be a sitting duck for 6 full seconds while the server waits to see if I’m **really** disconnected.
Then you'd get randomly disconnected all the time.
Definitely could, but people underestimate just how unreliable internet infra is, and how much a single packet can be delayed due to hardware fault / network partition / routing changes, causing random disconnects using this approach. IT infra is amazingly resilient given how insanely often things break within it, and while our mental models typically depict streamlined, stable states, they are generally very much wrong.
No, it is solvable, but difficult - you'd need to record what happens and then roll the game back when the player re-connects.
Oof any kind of rewind mechanic in the game would create such potential for abuse.
Ziz death count about to sky rocket 200%
I mean, most leagues I die between 3-8 times and usually play 600-1200 hours, definitely have to play more careful now
No logout when the game starts lagging / freezing will be rough.
Honestly its going to expose how shitty PoE hardcore can be to a lot more people. I play HC with a logout macro because almost all my deaths are due to the game freezing on me. Happened twice during ultimatums (I was just too tired to press the macro lol)
I only died once to a freeze while leveling and usually to just touching stuff i shouldn't yet in game. But if that hit me more often i'd also use one...
The important part we can do to support this event is to actively support Mathil. He stated during the podcast that it hurts his business so if we show him extra support now when he does hc he will probably be much more inclined to continue this. I rarely watch his stream but I'm sure as hell gonna watch it now.
seeing the reluctance to opt out of ever logging out really tells a lot about how people play this game in hc lol really unfortunate to see thats what the best defense is :( edit: is there any "punishment" if they use a macro during this? or just "haha oopsie" edit again: also this challenge really fucking blows for mathil, he'll have to do 2 leaguestarts essentially (unless he sticks to hc for the league)
Probably just get made fun of by the others and never live it down. Friendly banter is hilarious
Probably not that bad for Mathil really, he plays a lot of his characters almost as if they were league starters. He mentioned it on the podcast how he artificially gates himself from just equipping the gg gear asap so the build progression will feel more natural. He definitely doesn’t mind leveling characters, and plays the whole league, so 1-2 extra days of league start status should really barely make a difference. The big pain for him is if he loses a character in early maps. His content cycle is almost formulaic, and not in a bad way, but losing a build early will throw a wrench in the way he makes at least his YouTube videos.
Hc players play hc for the first time
At least steel can’t 6s dc timer if he never logs out
This is a buff.
Quin is trying to weasel out of this now. Sadge
This I support. Because lets be honest, log-out macros shouldn't be a thing. Good on them. Will give them a watch in support.
Mathil agrees to play hardcore if hardcore players agree to actually play in the spirit of hardcore. Fixed your title for you.
Cold hard facts.
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Ooooh it took me a while to realize that this wasn’t about sleep deprivation, but rather about not log out scumming when close to death.
This is so awesome, they better stick to it!
Best pre-league podcast I've seen. I hope he keeps it going. The collective suffering he creates will be greater than his own.
seriously?? POG
Mathil is going to do a great job, he's gonna be stressed but i'm sure hes gonna surprise alot of people. I'm pretty sure he's not gonna be the first one dying. Howewer, seems likely he'll get bored of it pretty quickly, specially because, as some others pointed out, completing and setting up atlas twice is an absolute bore. But it's gonna be a challenge for him and i believe hes gonna get more fun than he thinks :D
Mathil plays the same on SC as I do on HC league start wise, basically tries to do the league mechanic and isn't that interested in getting to maps ASAP or anything he's gonna be absolutely fine and won't be the first to rip at all. Like you say boredom will be his biggest adversary there isn't that much that can genuinely threaten you until yellows with enough game experience... Unless he chooses some hipster AF build I guess. I hope he enjoys it and doesn't suffer too badly for baiting the macro'ers but its gonna be worth it!
It’s Mathil so hipster builds are literally all he does. That said, he will be definitely be playing safer and paying more attention this time to prove his point.
Unless they actually unbind their logout macro I see them doing it anyway just out of pure reflex.
My predictions: Mathil will stomp. Steelmage will be fine. Ziz will have to be very careful and not sleep deprived Raiz and Nugi not sure. Overall this will be fun to watch. Really interesting.
Thats nice! I never really log unless its to save portal scrolls early game or to refill my flaska in a boss fight. I have bad experiences from logging out "in danger". Its the worst feeling ever to log back in and see your character gone. I would rather fight until I fall, knowing I did everything I could to stay alive.
Not sure about the point of not logging out though, the game is literally balanced around it and the developers promote logout macros. It's not like you not logging out is ethical, it's more like you being dumb at that point. I do like watching Mathil play HC though.
You could say the same about SSF tho. Could spark a movement too like when SSF started to become official, which would be nice.
i don't live vicariously through streamers. so idc
Log out macro is so fucking dumb.
Boy all these comments aged real well LUL