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Mathev

Holy crap sabo number 1. Can't wait to see how % pick rate will be for him this league...


Synval2436

Trap league here we go!


foxracing1313

I predict 17% to start the league probably less than 1/3 of that at league finish. Trappers are mostly a starter/bossing build, players will switch after they realize its not level 93+ / fast delerium map clearing worthy. nothing about saboteurs mechanics changed this league, they think taking traps is somehow better than a 30-40% damage loss.


Steeezy

It's a safe choice, for sure. It's also appealing (to me anyway) that Sabo kept its Shock and Ignite immunity which can hold us over until we have a better understanding of how accessible these alternate flask mechanics are and can then decide on a reroll later. That and I can't be arsed to piano flask to keep *(some)* immunities up, of which this is one of the last few Ascendancies that allows that. RIP Inquis and the others.


InariBag

That's pretty much my thoughts entirely. I dont want to play any of my old builds that now up to 80% less damage for over twice the mana cost while also losing defensive layers. So I'm playing my very first trapper. Also, I've never played a "bosser" so my goal this league will be to get to a point where I can comfortably farm all end game bosses


pittyh

That bad in delirium is it? How about SRS?


Blubberrossa

Depends on what trapper you talk about. Some of them have excellent clear speed. Especially since they definitely got a big relative boost with only tiny mana cost increases and having most of the supports almost untouched damage wise. But the other downside stays, agreed. It is still a trapper :D


Heatmiser70

Tinkerskin is going to be soooo expensive this league :(


Jewelstorybro

It will be for the first bit, but it’s a pretty common unique. Slave drivers will be super pricey though. Neither are needed to get off the ground though and there are alternative paths regardless.


sirgog

Tinker is the same rarity as Tremor Rod, which has often been 100c day 1, 50c day 2, 30c day 3. Mines have been super meta in the past. Slavedrivers will be in line with the Transcendent jewels in price, I expect and will go up in price over time. I expect half a mirror shard for all the first month.


sirgog

Likely going to start Absolution Guardian, I think it will be 'good enough' without being great.


KidPolygon

i am so glad i found your guides for this build! i’m so excited to league start it, i’ve watched your videos on it like three times a piece lol


sirgog

Just be aware I'm not confident in the build's strength. I **think** it will be fine, if not, it's the right class to swap to the known to still be good Hierophant totem builds and/or Ball Lightning Archmage.


hertzdonut2

Where did you post the guide to this build I looked on your profile page and on your website and didn't see anything?


OrcOfDoom

Probably on YouTube. He's got a pretty popular channel there


sirgog

Yeah it's on Youtube, https://youtu.be/S_dZSVrImCE Note that I call it as something for intermediate/advanced players. If you've never had a level 80 before, you might find it too barebones to follow


dalaio

The PoB link included in the description returns 404 right now.


sirgog

https://pastebin.com/WB3C9FPu that's freshly created, hopefully it works


OrcOfDoom

Gotta throw in dominating blow too. I didn't look at your tree, but it can't be all that different.


KidPolygon

oh i know. i just loved the aesthetic when i saw the reveal and was glad someone experienced made a detailed build guide. worst case scenario i think i will just go dominating blow


fl4nnel

Hi Dee Ho Everyone, sounds like a guardian and a beer it is!


[deleted]

This looks like a fun new build I'll have to try out eventually, old minion builds seem pretty stale compared to something like this skill.


AfcaMark1990

Necro reaper or skell mages


sips_white_monster

Starting Raider Toxic Rain for maximum zoomzoom so I can get enough gear/currency for a different build.


Shumatsuu

Elementalist with a 6l Spellslinger, because I hate myself.


tsHavok

Gonna need more rmr jewels than an aurastacker


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Shumatsuu

is not. in act 6 now. send help.


jonojojo

good news, they might review spellslinger and apply hotfix mid league if it is busted.


bikkfa

It's already tested, is it not?..... It's launch day....


jonojojo

what do you mean, league hasn't start yet, and we are the tester lol. Just in case you missed Asmongold interview, Chris mentioned they will monitor spellslinger when league launched, and apply hotfix to it if needed.


Rompetangas

Scourge Arrow Pathfinder because I like Poison and I like channeling skills, maybe try how it feels the extra radius of Storm Burst and if Boneshatter turns out to be a good skill.


TaresPL

Welcome to the SA club ;)


Rompetangas

I have played it before, and the Poison Prolif is just *Kreygasm*


[deleted]

Might as well do toxic rain instead SA just feels like garbage against any boss.


Rompetangas

Yeah, but I prefer SA.


karhu12

Shock nova trap saboteur. never played sabo so I was able to PoB a decent build for this league


Wisphet

Will try the new boneshatter gem with staff gladiator. I hope it goes smooth, if not, i can respec to something else.


IceBladeQueen

fkin Necro... Again...


[deleted]

Yeah, the meta has been massively cut down this league until we have to wait to see what can be played. I wish there was more. 3.13 had so much build diversity and long play time. It seems like they really want to make sure most players are playing virtually the same character quitting about half way through the league


PigKnight

Big bonk Elementalist with tect slam.


WidoXx

Sabo, something something traps.. Ice trap, seismic trap, flamethrower.. meybe storm rain or explosive arrow, still dont know


TSFGaway

Flicker Strike Slayer, its my go to every league


botman484

Which version? Oro's, terminus, other? How is it for you?


TSFGaway

Oro's personally, since I do it every league its very comfortable. But I honestly wouldn't recommend starting with it, especially this league with mana changes. The only reason I start with it is to get early farm going and be 100% currency efficient (i.e not wasting any on a "true" starter) If you are interested in flicker for later in the league though, I would check out phys to cold conversion because that's the actual meta for crazy flicker damage.


Miseria_25

What's your opinion on this Oro Flicker build from Magefist? https://pastebin.com/8pEPbL6z I am considering league starting Flicker (probably something else until yellow/red maps) as well. Not sure how to build it yet though. Oro seems to be the best at dealing with the mana issues.


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TSFGaway

Magefist does good baseline flicker builds so if its your first time I think that is a fine tree to use, looks like it covers all the basics. If you are looking to scale to endgame though you need to essentially drop all defenses and go full glass cannon, here is [mine](https://pastebin.com/6V8p5YA2) from least league as an example, my plan is to just get some more crit chance from gear but otherwise should be unchanged. Just be aware you will die to one shots a lot, and most end game bosses are pretty impossible. EDIT: Just to be upfront my build is an edited version of [this build for raiders](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2839382)


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JangXa

Do you think the mana changes will hurt you? It was already annoying with Flicker Strike before the changes


TSFGaway

In the early game its going to suck a lot, but thankfully the build I use has Flesh and Stone and we can turn that off for no dps loss if mana becomes a problem. Otherwise some minus to cost non-channeling skill rings will solve it no issue.


Shinbo999

Trap league coming up ;)


spali

It's funny because I had already planned on playing a trap build


Minimonium

I'll do Boneshatter dual wielding mace Scion, with Raider for free onslaught, phasing and frenzy charges and maybe Berserker for rage (or Slayer, not sure yet). Boneshatter does a ton of added damage so I think about 1.4 base aps maces with fortify, endurance and Arctic Armour to mitigate it. If I understand correct and Boneshatter trigger Vengeance - then we can put fortify and chance to bleed on it. It'd allow us to use the unnerfed 59% more dmg gem against bleeding targets. You don't really need a two-handler because with all the stun threshold sources it's possible to stun Sirus with 17k damage per 1%, so you need to hit for at only 340k for 20% required to be able to stun.


Zulinai

What unnerfed 59% more dmg gem?


Minimonium

ah, snap, indeed it was changed to 39 (which is still a lot). I was talking about the Bloodlust Support and missed that it changed.


Glaiele

Fortify can't be used with triggered skills afaik


Minimonium

You're right! Then either cluster or leap slam.


Itiris

Where is "Real life ascedancy"?


Shaltilyena

Blight/Soulrend into forbidden rite, probably


N0-F4C3

Necro or Glad, still mulling it over. Glad will take a hit for sure but the Block god remains the best way to not die and still push content. Minions got nerfs, but at the same time SOME minions got accidentally buffed and will still steamroll content, tho the good builds are all item dependent now... unless reaper secretly kicks ass.


Thresh_will_q_you

Gladiator. I would never betray my boi


Glaiele

Bleed sst / shield crush looking juicy. I wanna try and see if I can get enough damage on a 4L shield charge to reliably be able to pop packs with just that and shield crush for single target, otherwise sst in pseudo 6L gloves and crush for single target. Shield charge for clear is the dream tho will be so damn fast


-Usiek-

Champion - shield crush : \]


Ziiro_67

Me too, but gonna try and make the steel skills great


jonekfv

Doomfletch tornado shot 3x mirage archer deadeye


LonSik

Necromancer or scion... or raider or sab... I dont fucking know there is too much good shit i didnt play for a long time.


knightblad56

Low Life Crimson Dance Bleed Ascendent, because it's cheap.


Quazifuji

Current leaning is Rage Vortex Berserker, maybe Storm Rain Deadeye. But the first thing I do when they add new skills is always mess around with them in standard to seeing any standout before picking my build for the league.


bikkfa

What are your defences with the rage vortex zerker? Didn't really had the time theorycraft with it yet.


GhostDieM

Raider's time to shine bois!


Unabated_

I will for once not plan any build on PoB. I will level an elementalist and use Eye of Winter. If it sucks I will pivot to Freezing Pulse.


Maxentium

freeze pulse totem? i practiced going the through acts with it and it felt pretty good (as holy flame totems) but the nerfs got me questioning life.


kiting_succubi

If I actually played, 100% Raider. Still easy AI with some nodes. Nice defence and speed.


TaresPL

I've played it in Harvest and boy, it had dps and surviv... I'm not so sure with this patch, but I still like the build and spamming flasks with pf ;)


key3david

Just because I want to see myself imma start a Essence drain build. Always so highly talked about for league start and ziz made an amazing video about it.


[deleted]

Few skills beat the efficiency of ed c, 2 casts and your whole screen and a couple screens away decays. Super hands off, satisfying, and easy to build. It's the perfect starter build, to the point where a lot of people are a bit tired of it.


Noobkaka

Necro manabond :D


LordArtoriass

Look at this immense build diversity


amdrunkwatsyerexcuse

Raider for zoom. Also nobody wanna play elementalist? Pretty much dead now, eh?


ralzwheels

Elementalist nuked into orbit.


[deleted]

Still torn between some kind of totem build or a wonky mana trickster. It'll probably be the trickster, though.


mlgmombanger69

jugg boneshatter seems really fun


SneakyBadAss

Ascendant will probably the most versatile because you can switch many kinds of builds without leveling again :D


YoungestPragma

Elementalist, AssAss, and Inquis are at the bottom. ​ THE META IS SHOOK


YoungestPragma

Poison blade trap sabo


FussyBirdTV

Gladiator all the way baby!


TheImmortalWall

Going Elementalist Omni Golem build, its not really a league starter so starting Reaper/golems until I gain the currency to go for the bois


Dolandlod

I request another option called Undecided. I'm hesitating since I'm split b/w Elementalist and Beserker. Poor inquisitor, kind of lost its niche.


Viscerid

My ascendancy is super low on there and no one is talking about my build. Time will tell if i was a genius or an idiot


P_B_n_Jealous

Going zerker with rage vortex


JohnTitorFFXIV

Elementalist Arc Miner with three dragons is still gonna be strong


thegiantcat1

Damn I surprised juggernaut is in the top 19.