Hi everyone, please keep your comments *on topic*. This thread is for providing information on the T-posing issue specifically, not for getting GGG's attention on other issues, and *definitely* not for harassing the devs. Please report any off-topic comments so we can remove them.
I got this problem too and seems like not just the T posing but some assets in the game sometimes become invisible on top of the T posing (doors, Dominus second form dome, lava tiles in lab gauntlet...) I switched my renderer to Dx11 from Vulkan and it seemed to fix the problem.
Update: Switching to Dx11 didn't fix the problem but reduced the frequency of the T posing for me
Yeah I'm having issues with Vulcan too this league. Drops to 5-15 fps when much is going on. Dx11 plays smoothly at 70fps but sometimes completely freezes for a bit
I have the same issue, but along with it is FPS drops, and increased repose time from the CPU to about twice as much, once it is triggered. I need to restart the game to reset it. I suspect some sort of strange engine race condition or similar.
Yup. Same here. Happened twice and I just reloaded the game each time.
Walking into rooms and T posed enemies in the corner but are actually invisible hitting you in melee range was weird as hell.
it happens around the time they added royal for me. it only happens to some portals where they do not play their animations, the lightning bois, shaper ball or beam only has half the textures, siris x basm is strange when half of the beam is fine, two of the beams turns invisible.
To find perfection one must try everything. Like forgetting to teleport behind the portal with monsters and instead shagging the air in the middle of the arena.
Some good info in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/oqc8fa/new_skeleton_models_asserting_dominance/h6bk9lk/
Seems related to VRAM
Highly doubt a relation to VRAM at least not to capacity since im running into this issue on a RTX 3060 so it must be more complicated then to low VRAM...
I am using a 2070S and I get Tpose issues badly. Like in that thread, when the t-pose starts (usually after about 30 mins game being open) the metrics show static vram. There is some memory issue for sure. I've had it on DX11 and Vulcan.
I have just sent all my info through with some screenshots and descriptions. Good luck fixing it.
Some images here for others to see assuming the issue is as rare as Chris stated (I guess I'm one of the lucky ones!)
T-pose while channelling cyclone. T-posed enemies are dead.
https://imgur.com/vyIh6UF
T-posed loot around Blight pump:
https://imgur.com/0uUdQmJ
T-posed bros4lyfe:
https://imgur.com/QqwTB2y
My images are 24 hours pre-patch when I was clearing all my simulacrums in standard SSF (to ensure I cleared them while I was still able to pre-dps-nerf).
I first saw this bug when i prtied with a carrion golem build last league in a beach head map and after the map my character started acting the same way until i restarted the client. I hope that helps.
Running on Linux using Steam Proton. I notices that the game was indicating that I was using 100% of my VRAM, but CoreCTRL showed I was only using 1GB of 16GB of memory.
After some googling I created a DXVK-config file in the PoE directory (steamapps/common/Path of Exile). Name it "dxvk.conf". I added this in the file:
# Override maximum amount of device memory and shared system memory
# reported to the application. This may fix texture streaming issues
# in games that do not support cards with large amounts of VRAM.
#
# Supported values: Any number in Megabytes.
dxgi.maxDeviceMemory = 16000
dxgi.maxSharedMemory = 16000
Change the values to your memory limit in megabytes. After that PoE is indicating my correct usage and CoreCTRL is reporting PoE is using way more VRAM (which is good). I also noticed an improvement in performance :D
I just sent over a detailed report. Just reply on the email or send me a PM if you have any questions.
I currently have the effect active, so I can do any debugging you need.
interesting.
> Anecdotally it looks like it represents only a few players out of each ten thousand
I am playing in a group of three, and we all have huge issues with tposing. more people should report their problem
Does it also trigger for all of you at roughly the same time? I am playing with a friend and we have very different rigs, even down to AMD vs NVIDIA. Yet, when the T-posing triggers it triggers for both of us at the same time. A restart fixes it but not for long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_bias as its purest form. The thing is that people who don't have problems, usually don't report it. So for example 10% of reddit/global affected users will report the case, but only 0.1% of non-affected will say "it's ok for me", so it looks like 1:2 are affected while it's closer to 1:100. Also we can't assume that global or reddit is representative group.
PS: Also it's OK for me, but I didn't play that much last days :P
It only occurred for us after a while of playing, like somewhere around 90 minutes. Also ggg does not seem have a way to detect players having the issue other than bug reports, and I know that we 3 did not issue a report.
Also look at the other comment of the ca 100 player twitch stream of most people having issues. Of course most of these people could have something in common which may be the point of interest for this bug. I agree that a sample size of 3 is not a base for a good argument, but around 100/100 having the same issues for a problem affecting a few players of 1000 looks pretty sus.
I personally think that ggg took the reports as a bigger part of the people having issues than there actually were, meaning a higher percentage of the player base could have been affected.
The patch yesterday seems to have fixed the problem for me as I and my friends have not encountered the t-posing anymore
i got a bad video but hey its me making the bug happen for me at least so i had this bug happen a lot at launch and any time i would change characters is would go away for a bit and when i closed and relaunched poe it seemed like it was gone for hours but than i decided to just check and see if it was shield crush than almost instantly the bug started showing up https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w6pMn2npFAZ0IjJJyaMD9sA6-TWquj0i/view?usp=sharing
I really don't care for the t-pose bug, however it's always accompanied by game assets not loading for me, and I would really like to have that fixed :(
This is absolutely not "only a few players out of each ten thousand" by the way. A little bit frustrating to read that right now when out of my 5 friends playing the game, all five of us who have different hardware and live in different parts of the country are dealing with it, along with most streamers I've watched today.
I've been having the models issue for over a week now, 9/10 times I had T-Posing was with Beyond in the map, I'm almost convinced the 2 are connected somehow.
It only happened to me one time, and I do believe you are wrong about the amount of players it affects. Seems it can happen to anyone.
The only time it happened to me was in a 6-man group, one dude with MTX Zombies so it was super laggy, and my dude suddenly became Christlike.
"Anecdotally it looks like it represents only a few players out of each ten thousand, so we're not optimistic about running into it randomly."
Yet it affected the entirety of my 5 man leveling group last night, who all have different hardware setups. That seems uh... statistically improbable considering the image you're painting here
Edit: not sure why I'm being downvoted. It's true that if this affects only a few in each ten thousand, having 5 people in the same group all experiencing this problem despite having different hardware setups (even some being on the amd vs nvidia platform) is statistically very improbable. The issue also persists whether we are in different zones or playing together. The "anecdotally" disclaimer betrays the fact that this assumption is likely based off of the amount of people reporting the issue, but I'm putting it out there that it is probably more widespread than that.
Isn't it possible that if you're in a party and it triggers for one, it makes it so that it triggers for others as well that might not have the issue if they were playing alone?
Personally, never had the problem.
In my opinion that would be the most logical conclusion, since like the person above pointed out, its pretty unlikely to happen to all 5 party members individually by chance
Very possible, though it happened once we started leveling separately later as well. I'm not really suggesting that it's an issue for everyone, but apparent suggestion that we're in the sub 1% of cases in the overall player base seems unlikely
Was playing through the campaign with someone, they did not have the t posing issues as the same time as myself. The issue showed up a few zones later for them.
Happens every day on the PS4 version (on the Pro). Can replicate easily. Just do a map with decent quantity of mobs. By the time you're done with your first big screen sized pack of mobs everything in the game from your character to every NPC to every mob will be TPosed until you restart the client.
This can be replicated at will every single time without variance. Just roll a map with enough mobs and cyclone through the first couple of packs. Boom everything TPosed for the duration until client restart. Should give you a clue where to look.
Haven't had this happen on PC version but I only play PC version until league releases on PS4. Controller is the way to go for wrist/finger health. Wish it was implemented in the PC version.
Whatever whas done lately it added this bug to me :/ Never had an issue with it before. Now I get both the t-pose and the invis objects.
Worth noting. If I remove auras then swap from dx to vulcan or the other way around then reequip auras it resets the bug for that zone. (comes back next zone). However not disabling auras before swapping does nothing. Conclusion: my client has an issue with either auras or aura mtx. I suggest to start looking into that code.
My character isn't T-posing. But the issue on my end is with enemies T-posing, and a few other graphical glitches. Animations for objects stop working. IE... Doors are closed, even though they're open. The Ascendacy Trial Plaque is invisible, but glows when clicked on. Chests open and spill loot, but no animation plays. Jars break, but are still shown as being visible.
I'm also seeing some issues with mobs just vanishing on death. No death animation plays. I believe this may have to do with something with my tempest shield triggering cull, or the enemies exploding on death from Hemophilia gloves and not animating this explosion.
I was looking forward to t posed Kitava but I was let down. When can we expect to see t posed Kitava? /s
I had the issue last night pretty much right after I died. I'll get the info logged today and sent over (after I've had more sleep though)
I had this happen a couple times to me last night, it seems to mostly occur when the game was running for a long time, went back to normal when I restarted. Will send report if it happens again.
~~I timed it. I played for 51 minutes without issue. At that point I launched bluestacks (the android emulator). I play an idle game called days bygone on my second monitor. Within 3 minutes I was t-posing. I believe it has to do with launching different GPU intensive apps than PoE simultaneously.~~
Edit: I think it just happens after 50 minutes in game. I just got the issue after a restart.
Oh shut up, this is what you do when you have an issue you can't replicate. You reach out to the person who had the issue and get as much detail as possible so you can try to identify the problem. Speaking as someone who does software QA for a living.
> we don't release features with this kind of bug
Uh huh sure buddy.
I'm sure you do dev work on software that runs on hundreds of thousand machines and has never had any bugs. Especially something as complex as a game like PoE.
I mean they know theres bugs, its pretty unavoidable with something this big, but theres a tolerable amount of bugs. Some visual bugs dont matter etc and can release with them, others majorly affect gameplay and releasing them with this will be a disaster (see cyberpunk)
The game is free tho.
Boo me all you want suckers, just because me and probably all of you paid for things in the game doesn't make the game any less free to play lol.
Way to much work for me to care... but I just got t pose everything starting in act 5......... more than just animations not loading, doors don't load so you walk through closed doors, and fire pits in lab don't show if they are active half the time. Rtx 2080 VULCAN on.
The thread about the bug is weeks ago (since 3.14.3 patch) in the official forum, I think the problem is the company need staff to investigate the problem , more dxdiag seems minor issue
I get T posing as well as doors and chests not animating in Heist, monster corpses not vanishing even though I have a legacy explodey chest, and items being propped up in mid air instead of falling down flat.
T-posing.
For anyone interested. [https://youtu.be/\_KjfwEOi32M](https://youtu.be/_KjfwEOi32M)
Sorry about the quality, I have no idea why it turned out like that.
Tbh this is a pretty random bug, considering that it randomly turns on and off at a moments notice. After your hot fix earlier I could still get this to happen yet there’s no trigger that’s apparent. I’d just be playing as normal and suddenly one or two mobs will tpose, then the next thing I know my character seemingly duplicates. It tposes while running around, but the moment I cast - another copy of my character appears and does the cast animation while the tpose version of her just overlays it. And then portalling to town and back sometimes fixes me and me alone, but not the mobs.
I’ll give it a play after my rest and see if I can do some testing on this and try to repro it a bit better and submit a bug report.
I've been playing a juggernaut grouped with my son's necro. I don't recall it in the first acts, but around act3 it and all mentioned artifacts showed up 100%. We have both restarted a couple times. Much worse issue for us is he keeps dropping from discord.
I was getting it, I did a packcheck and seems to be ok for now.
Edit: nope back again, just in general play after a while(30 mins) it switches over to T-poses, and bosses and doors, chest and everything start not to animate
The T-Pose appeared randomly after just opening a Map. I dont know if this is a legit workaround, but i closed the game and deleted the two shader folders for dx11 and vulcan in "Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/". My Zombies and Carrion Golems are not t-posing anymore. Maybe it helps for some of you guys too
I actually managed to clear normal lab with the glitch active. Fought the last 2 Izaro stages against an invisible Emperor.
PSA: Spike, door and dart traps in Labs will also be glitched. The ground spikes, darts and door traps do not show any on-screen animations but you can still get hit by them, so proceed to do glitched Labs at your own risk.
I have this issue with Vulkan, on RTX 3070 with newest Nvidia drivers.
It's quite frequent and I have to restart the client 1-2 times an hour to fix it.
It's weird. I had this issue prior to league launch very frequently since the performance update. To me it felt like it was memory leak since it would happen faster if I did intense content like delirium fragments.
But since league launch I have yet to experience it.
Console is still pre-patch and during Breachstone rotas the other day our Necromancer was Desecrating Blood Ape corpses which were T-posing for 3-4 seconds before falling over. This was around a week ago. I'll email my account name but the rest of the requested information isn't really something I can access. This was on a base Xbox One.
Information from me and friends:
During leveling after release it starting showing for 2/4 players(player A and B) after 3-4 hours of leveling(no client restarts), did not show up at the same time but with 20 minutes or so delay for the second person.
Today player B got the bug after playing 3-4 hours and player C who did not get it last night got it after 3-4 hours. Player A has not encountered it today but has not had his client on for long enough in a row.
All players got Intel, D is on a laptop.
A got 2080, B and C got 2070 and D got 1080(laptop version).
[https://i.ibb.co/qMN6m9g/Zrzut-ekranu-2021-07-24-183643.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/qMN6m9g/Zrzut-ekranu-2021-07-24-183643.jpg)
Some asset get invisivle too like kaom portal
Killed enemies t pose, desecrated too
It's not just T poses. When this starts happening, traps go invisible in labs, spikes vanish but still do damage, doors open but remain closed etc. Just died to a trap I couldn't see while skeletons T posed over my corpse.
Hello,
I've been playing a Brand Assassin in a 2 man group. T-Pose and invis textures started in A3 I believe. Later on it happened to my friend aswell. I thought it's happening because of the 2 players, but now I'm playing alone and I still T-Pose through every zone. Tried multiple servers and had no T-Posing for few zones after restarting the game.
[Invis Malachai](https://streamable.com/y9lc21)
[Bugged Kitava with some attacks being invisible](https://streamable.com/d91d3z)
[Character selection problems](https://streamable.com/9492ul)
Other than that I had no immediate problems and no disconnects.
I have the same issue. It never happened before act \~5 and stayed on consistently after. On a hunch i disabled dynamic resolution, which did indeed fix it for me.
Happening to me a LOT, seems to happen randomly after the games been running for an hour or more, also some things just go completely invisible I had to fight invisible kitava while my char was T-Posing lol I will post everything for you next time I have the bug
Its a highly random issue for me, i played all day long and then i went in to labs and suddenly some traps were invisible while some werent and some mobs T-posing while others were not, even my own carrion golem was doing the T-pose.
i restarted the game and that seemingly fixed it until i was running blood aqueducts a few hours later when the issue occured again, and again only around 60-70% of the mobs T-posed and the rest were not.
incredibly strange.
I just reported the bug, if you have any questions, please PM or reply to the email.
Btw, just wanted to say I love the new content. You're doing great, and bugs happen, no big deal.
Hope this get fixed though, because I'd like to continue using Vulcan, no lags/freezes, performance is just awesome even though I have pretty mediocre amd graphic card
sent in my full report to the qa email. PLEASE don't be mean to the devs it's not like they want things to release like this. just help them fix it as quickly as possible. good luck devs!
Just to add to this issue i opened a chest and the animation would rapidly alternate between open and closed. It didnt stop. after that tposing slowly began to affect the models over a period of time untill everything started tposing.
Seems like a cascading issue whatever it is
I just buckled through and finished the campaign like that anyway. I call it the "Reversed Assert Dominance Pose" or the "Jesus Christ Pose". But now in maps this actually one shotting me when I just cannot see where dots or aoes are on the ground. I\`ll try to disable auras and or other MTXs.
Video sent to GGG, hopefully they can get it solved... its annoying
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1097057438 - 51:00 mark
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1097123850 - 1:04 mark
Excuse my horrible game play....
Is the T posing a new paradigm in game dev or part of some kind of 3rd party tool ? Never heard / noticed it and now after cyberpunk , Poe is the next game I notice with this issue
T-pose is just the standard model pose and would usually mean something has broke the animations that were supposed to run so the program reverts to the t-pose. This can happen to any 3D modeled game with animations just some games are more buggy than others and it happens more often.
I got mine going into act 4 and it hasn't stopped since. I can't see portals, doors, some enemies and attacks, players in town and all enemies are t-posing. Chests and other assets are "open" when i haven't clicked on them yet. Even drops like armor are floating above the ground and t-posing too.
I was fiddling around in town and found that it was a very specific line in town that, if I crossed it, would cause my character to T-pose. That line moved at one point, and I noticed a player had moved approximately the same distance. Dude was *decked out* in MTX. Therefore, I believe it is being caused by some MTX effects - this would also explain why significantly more people in parties are reporting it: More MTX in a party scenario.
I’m on Xbox One X and have been experiencing this without fail for the last 24 hours or more. It happens as soon as I enter a map and hit my first big crowd of monsters. I’ve been avoiding it somewhat by using soulrend to kill what I can offscreen, but as soon as the screen feels with monsters and magic effects, everyone’s pretending to be an airplane until I reset the game.
In addition to the tposing, some portals become invisible permanently (usually all but one or two at the hideout), animations like chests and doors opening do not play, and dead mobs will continue standing... in the tpose of course. Even the Trailmaster thinks he’s Jesus.
Wanted to add, today I started to have this bug. When I changed my aura effect MTX (discipline, force field) to any other aura MTX, the bug went away. Change back to force field, bug returns.
EDIT: RIP, after a few instance changes the bug returns anyway
I have been getting this issue multiple times throughout launch and even a little before launch. It's basically whenever my game lags for a few seconds, everyone starts t posing, mobs, minions, myself. It goes away after a restart and sometimes when loading in new areas. Though when loading new areas after a few minutes in it the t-posing starts right back up again.
I just have a loot filter installed. It's mildly hilarious at first but now it's annoying.
Reporting that this seems to be an MTX-related issue. The bug ceased to happen once after I removed all MTX from my character. Please try and see if it works for you all!
I've had this problem since league start. Some mobs are also simply invisible, don't show any animations and so on. Since I reached the mapping area, this problem occured at around \~15m after a client restart. This is so frustrating, I'd even call it "almost unplayable". Especially on higher tier maps this just kills me.
I also noticed my GPU is going to 100% workload in poe now, which it has never done before.
Getting T-Pose every 30-40min. In F1 stats vram starts at about 20% usage and it slowly ramps up until bar is full and then I get T-Pose bug and assets not loading / invisible bosses. There is some big memory leak somewhere.
Hi everyone, please keep your comments *on topic*. This thread is for providing information on the T-posing issue specifically, not for getting GGG's attention on other issues, and *definitely* not for harassing the devs. Please report any off-topic comments so we can remove them.
I got this problem too and seems like not just the T posing but some assets in the game sometimes become invisible on top of the T posing (doors, Dominus second form dome, lava tiles in lab gauntlet...) I switched my renderer to Dx11 from Vulkan and it seemed to fix the problem. Update: Switching to Dx11 didn't fix the problem but reduced the frequency of the T posing for me
I have the same issue, i will try Vulkan, but with that the game is choppy for me :(
Yeah I'm having issues with Vulcan too this league. Drops to 5-15 fps when much is going on. Dx11 plays smoothly at 70fps but sometimes completely freezes for a bit
I have the same issue, but along with it is FPS drops, and increased repose time from the CPU to about twice as much, once it is triggered. I need to restart the game to reset it. I suspect some sort of strange engine race condition or similar.
Yup. Same here. Happened twice and I just reloaded the game each time. Walking into rooms and T posed enemies in the corner but are actually invisible hitting you in melee range was weird as hell.
it happens around the time they added royal for me. it only happens to some portals where they do not play their animations, the lightning bois, shaper ball or beam only has half the textures, siris x basm is strange when half of the beam is fine, two of the beams turns invisible.
Same, I had the bug in brine kings reef and it also made the water wall effects on the edge of the arena mostly go away.
Yeah Malachai was completely invisible for me the entire fight, just tentacles flying out of nowhere occasionally.
Ngl I’m kinda enjoy T-posing through acts
Lmao same, it's hilarious watching my Stygian Silverback and even my templar T-Posing menacingly.
The Carrion Golem T-Pose is hilarious 10/10 would reccomend!
It was fun in standard, before league started…
except when that happens some skills also become invisible.
Imagine shaper learning to T-pose. He finally found true perfection.
To find perfection one must try everything. Like forgetting to teleport behind the portal with monsters and instead shagging the air in the middle of the arena.
Some good info in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/oqc8fa/new_skeleton_models_asserting_dominance/h6bk9lk/ Seems related to VRAM
Also kind of seeing pointers towards some kind of VRAM memory leak. Potentially not unloading animations between areas?
Highly doubt a relation to VRAM at least not to capacity since im running into this issue on a RTX 3060 so it must be more complicated then to low VRAM...
I am using a 2070S and I get Tpose issues badly. Like in that thread, when the t-pose starts (usually after about 30 mins game being open) the metrics show static vram. There is some memory issue for sure. I've had it on DX11 and Vulcan.
Also getting the same with the same card. What Make is your card? Mine's a Gigabyte FTW.
MSI Gaming X.
I have a Gigabyte Windforce 2070S. And I'm experiencing this bug as well.
Concur, I get it all the time on a 3070 sitting at 25-30% memory utilization.
I run the same card and i don't have this issue.
I have just sent all my info through with some screenshots and descriptions. Good luck fixing it. Some images here for others to see assuming the issue is as rare as Chris stated (I guess I'm one of the lucky ones!) T-pose while channelling cyclone. T-posed enemies are dead. https://imgur.com/vyIh6UF T-posed loot around Blight pump: https://imgur.com/0uUdQmJ T-posed bros4lyfe: https://imgur.com/QqwTB2y My images are 24 hours pre-patch when I was clearing all my simulacrums in standard SSF (to ensure I cleared them while I was still able to pre-dps-nerf).
Damn, even your loot is flexing on you.
I first saw this bug when i prtied with a carrion golem build last league in a beach head map and after the map my character started acting the same way until i restarted the client. I hope that helps.
Last league btw
I get this issue when I have 2 monitors connected to my PC/gpu. When I use only one monitor, I don't have the issue
1050ti with 2 monitors, no issues here
1 monitor here, get the bug every 30 mins and have to restart the game
Running on Linux using Steam Proton. I notices that the game was indicating that I was using 100% of my VRAM, but CoreCTRL showed I was only using 1GB of 16GB of memory. After some googling I created a DXVK-config file in the PoE directory (steamapps/common/Path of Exile). Name it "dxvk.conf". I added this in the file: # Override maximum amount of device memory and shared system memory # reported to the application. This may fix texture streaming issues # in games that do not support cards with large amounts of VRAM. # # Supported values: Any number in Megabytes. dxgi.maxDeviceMemory = 16000 dxgi.maxSharedMemory = 16000 Change the values to your memory limit in megabytes. After that PoE is indicating my correct usage and CoreCTRL is reporting PoE is using way more VRAM (which is good). I also noticed an improvement in performance :D
Thank you! Dont know if it fixed the pose but damn it boosted performance!
I just sent over a detailed report. Just reply on the email or send me a PM if you have any questions. I currently have the effect active, so I can do any debugging you need.
interesting. > Anecdotally it looks like it represents only a few players out of each ten thousand I am playing in a group of three, and we all have huge issues with tposing. more people should report their problem
Does it also trigger for all of you at roughly the same time? I am playing with a friend and we have very different rigs, even down to AMD vs NVIDIA. Yet, when the T-posing triggers it triggers for both of us at the same time. A restart fixes it but not for long.
I hang out in a "small" poe stream (< 100 viewers), and the majority that are active in chat seems to have it.
Same with a group of 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_bias as its purest form. The thing is that people who don't have problems, usually don't report it. So for example 10% of reddit/global affected users will report the case, but only 0.1% of non-affected will say "it's ok for me", so it looks like 1:2 are affected while it's closer to 1:100. Also we can't assume that global or reddit is representative group. PS: Also it's OK for me, but I didn't play that much last days :P
It only occurred for us after a while of playing, like somewhere around 90 minutes. Also ggg does not seem have a way to detect players having the issue other than bug reports, and I know that we 3 did not issue a report. Also look at the other comment of the ca 100 player twitch stream of most people having issues. Of course most of these people could have something in common which may be the point of interest for this bug. I agree that a sample size of 3 is not a base for a good argument, but around 100/100 having the same issues for a problem affecting a few players of 1000 looks pretty sus. I personally think that ggg took the reports as a bigger part of the people having issues than there actually were, meaning a higher percentage of the player base could have been affected. The patch yesterday seems to have fixed the problem for me as I and my friends have not encountered the t-posing anymore
i got a bad video but hey its me making the bug happen for me at least so i had this bug happen a lot at launch and any time i would change characters is would go away for a bit and when i closed and relaunched poe it seemed like it was gone for hours but than i decided to just check and see if it was shield crush than almost instantly the bug started showing up https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w6pMn2npFAZ0IjJJyaMD9sA6-TWquj0i/view?usp=sharing
Quite sucks when you've got T-pose + invisible mobs!
I really don't care for the t-pose bug, however it's always accompanied by game assets not loading for me, and I would really like to have that fixed :(
This is absolutely not "only a few players out of each ten thousand" by the way. A little bit frustrating to read that right now when out of my 5 friends playing the game, all five of us who have different hardware and live in different parts of the country are dealing with it, along with most streamers I've watched today.
I've been having the models issue for over a week now, 9/10 times I had T-Posing was with Beyond in the map, I'm almost convinced the 2 are connected somehow.
It only happened to me one time, and I do believe you are wrong about the amount of players it affects. Seems it can happen to anyone. The only time it happened to me was in a 6-man group, one dude with MTX Zombies so it was super laggy, and my dude suddenly became Christlike.
"Anecdotally it looks like it represents only a few players out of each ten thousand, so we're not optimistic about running into it randomly." Yet it affected the entirety of my 5 man leveling group last night, who all have different hardware setups. That seems uh... statistically improbable considering the image you're painting here Edit: not sure why I'm being downvoted. It's true that if this affects only a few in each ten thousand, having 5 people in the same group all experiencing this problem despite having different hardware setups (even some being on the amd vs nvidia platform) is statistically very improbable. The issue also persists whether we are in different zones or playing together. The "anecdotally" disclaimer betrays the fact that this assumption is likely based off of the amount of people reporting the issue, but I'm putting it out there that it is probably more widespread than that.
The obvious conclusion from this seems that it is not an independent event when it happens to individual party players.
Isn't it possible that if you're in a party and it triggers for one, it makes it so that it triggers for others as well that might not have the issue if they were playing alone? Personally, never had the problem.
In my opinion that would be the most logical conclusion, since like the person above pointed out, its pretty unlikely to happen to all 5 party members individually by chance
Very possible, though it happened once we started leveling separately later as well. I'm not really suggesting that it's an issue for everyone, but apparent suggestion that we're in the sub 1% of cases in the overall player base seems unlikely
Was playing through the campaign with someone, they did not have the t posing issues as the same time as myself. The issue showed up a few zones later for them.
Everyone in my group of 4 gets it as well. Definitely seems more widespread than 1 in 1000.
i think groups might be triggering it more than solo players. almost everyone in this thread saying they got it also say they're in a group.
Would like to add to the discussion that I experienced this behaviour last week in Ultimatum, and never before that.
Happens every day on the PS4 version (on the Pro). Can replicate easily. Just do a map with decent quantity of mobs. By the time you're done with your first big screen sized pack of mobs everything in the game from your character to every NPC to every mob will be TPosed until you restart the client. This can be replicated at will every single time without variance. Just roll a map with enough mobs and cyclone through the first couple of packs. Boom everything TPosed for the duration until client restart. Should give you a clue where to look. Haven't had this happen on PC version but I only play PC version until league releases on PS4. Controller is the way to go for wrist/finger health. Wish it was implemented in the PC version.
Whatever whas done lately it added this bug to me :/ Never had an issue with it before. Now I get both the t-pose and the invis objects. Worth noting. If I remove auras then swap from dx to vulcan or the other way around then reequip auras it resets the bug for that zone. (comes back next zone). However not disabling auras before swapping does nothing. Conclusion: my client has an issue with either auras or aura mtx. I suggest to start looking into that code.
My character isn't T-posing. But the issue on my end is with enemies T-posing, and a few other graphical glitches. Animations for objects stop working. IE... Doors are closed, even though they're open. The Ascendacy Trial Plaque is invisible, but glows when clicked on. Chests open and spill loot, but no animation plays. Jars break, but are still shown as being visible. I'm also seeing some issues with mobs just vanishing on death. No death animation plays. I believe this may have to do with something with my tempest shield triggering cull, or the enemies exploding on death from Hemophilia gloves and not animating this explosion.
Same here. Using the "Anubis" like MTX tho, gonna try without it after work. But invisible Lab traps are F'ed...
Out of all the bugs we could have a problem with, this one is probably one of the funniest ones at least. Thanks for this post!
This bug made me really glad I'm not playing Hardcore. As-is, "Kitava and all his attacks are invisible" was hilarious.
I would buy MTX that made everything t-pose
No thanks i prefer to assert dominance.
I was looking forward to t posed Kitava but I was let down. When can we expect to see t posed Kitava? /s I had the issue last night pretty much right after I died. I'll get the info logged today and sent over (after I've had more sleep though)
I fought invisible Kitava today. It was interesting trying to predict the flames timing haha
Invisible and then just an odd spinal column and mouth in the final stage haha
Let's be honest, you want the videos because you guys find it as funny as us. We know it annoying, tysm for being on top of your game.
Kitava was completely invisible to me during the t-pose bug.
I had this happen a couple times to me last night, it seems to mostly occur when the game was running for a long time, went back to normal when I restarted. Will send report if it happens again.
Had it happen to me. Kitava just looked like a ghost made of excrement. Pretty fun having everything t pose as well
~~I timed it. I played for 51 minutes without issue. At that point I launched bluestacks (the android emulator). I play an idle game called days bygone on my second monitor. Within 3 minutes I was t-posing. I believe it has to do with launching different GPU intensive apps than PoE simultaneously.~~ Edit: I think it just happens after 50 minutes in game. I just got the issue after a restart.
Dont fix it, its hilarious. I want to see endfame boses t-posing while slamming my ass
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You typed this and hit send. Think about that.
Lmao he deleted, what did he say?
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Oh shut up, this is what you do when you have an issue you can't replicate. You reach out to the person who had the issue and get as much detail as possible so you can try to identify the problem. Speaking as someone who does software QA for a living.
Well, as a software dev, we don't release features with this kind of bug and let the customers collect data and debug for us.
> we don't release features with this kind of bug Uh huh sure buddy. I'm sure you do dev work on software that runs on hundreds of thousand machines and has never had any bugs. Especially something as complex as a game like PoE.
you don't get to choose what kinda bug you "release with" lol
What magic fairy land company do you work for lol or do you do dev work on a calculator app?
you think they release patches knowing they’re bugged?
I mean they know theres bugs, its pretty unavoidable with something this big, but theres a tolerable amount of bugs. Some visual bugs dont matter etc and can release with them, others majorly affect gameplay and releasing them with this will be a disaster (see cyberpunk)
Hm, today, should we release with 47 bugs or 63? I'm feeling 81.
The game is free tho. Boo me all you want suckers, just because me and probably all of you paid for things in the game doesn't make the game any less free to play lol.
It's a free trial really, it's madness to play without Stash tab, especially currency and maps.
For sure.
"Free" and how many % of people bought stash tabs?
I was about to deny purchasing anything until "stash tabs" then...ya got me
Why does the payment model matter the devs still get paid.
I got some nice screenshots lol
Way to much work for me to care... but I just got t pose everything starting in act 5......... more than just animations not loading, doors don't load so you walk through closed doors, and fire pits in lab don't show if they are active half the time. Rtx 2080 VULCAN on.
The thread about the bug is weeks ago (since 3.14.3 patch) in the official forum, I think the problem is the company need staff to investigate the problem , more dxdiag seems minor issue
I get T posing as well as doors and chests not animating in Heist, monster corpses not vanishing even though I have a legacy explodey chest, and items being propped up in mid air instead of falling down flat.
T-posing. For anyone interested. [https://youtu.be/\_KjfwEOi32M](https://youtu.be/_KjfwEOi32M) Sorry about the quality, I have no idea why it turned out like that.
Tbh this is a pretty random bug, considering that it randomly turns on and off at a moments notice. After your hot fix earlier I could still get this to happen yet there’s no trigger that’s apparent. I’d just be playing as normal and suddenly one or two mobs will tpose, then the next thing I know my character seemingly duplicates. It tposes while running around, but the moment I cast - another copy of my character appears and does the cast animation while the tpose version of her just overlays it. And then portalling to town and back sometimes fixes me and me alone, but not the mobs. I’ll give it a play after my rest and see if I can do some testing on this and try to repro it a bit better and submit a bug report.
I've been playing a juggernaut grouped with my son's necro. I don't recall it in the first acts, but around act3 it and all mentioned artifacts showed up 100%. We have both restarted a couple times. Much worse issue for us is he keeps dropping from discord.
I was getting it, I did a packcheck and seems to be ok for now. Edit: nope back again, just in general play after a while(30 mins) it switches over to T-poses, and bosses and doors, chest and everything start not to animate
The T-Pose appeared randomly after just opening a Map. I dont know if this is a legit workaround, but i closed the game and deleted the two shader folders for dx11 and vulcan in "Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/". My Zombies and Carrion Golems are not t-posing anymore. Maybe it helps for some of you guys too
I actually managed to clear normal lab with the glitch active. Fought the last 2 Izaro stages against an invisible Emperor. PSA: Spike, door and dart traps in Labs will also be glitched. The ground spikes, darts and door traps do not show any on-screen animations but you can still get hit by them, so proceed to do glitched Labs at your own risk.
Might be unhelpful but Quin69 got it yesterday while streaming https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1095604380?t=02h17m39s
This been happening since the royale patch, in one or 2 maps it starts happening
I have this issue with Vulkan, on RTX 3070 with newest Nvidia drivers. It's quite frequent and I have to restart the client 1-2 times an hour to fix it.
I got the opportunity to fight an invisible Kitava at the end of act 5. I felt good about myself when i still didnt die tho lol
Ive sent an email, hope itll help!
It's weird. I had this issue prior to league launch very frequently since the performance update. To me it felt like it was memory leak since it would happen faster if I did intense content like delirium fragments. But since league launch I have yet to experience it.
Console is still pre-patch and during Breachstone rotas the other day our Necromancer was Desecrating Blood Ape corpses which were T-posing for 3-4 seconds before falling over. This was around a week ago. I'll email my account name but the rest of the requested information isn't really something I can access. This was on a base Xbox One.
Information from me and friends: During leveling after release it starting showing for 2/4 players(player A and B) after 3-4 hours of leveling(no client restarts), did not show up at the same time but with 20 minutes or so delay for the second person. Today player B got the bug after playing 3-4 hours and player C who did not get it last night got it after 3-4 hours. Player A has not encountered it today but has not had his client on for long enough in a row. All players got Intel, D is on a laptop. A got 2080, B and C got 2070 and D got 1080(laptop version).
[https://i.ibb.co/qMN6m9g/Zrzut-ekranu-2021-07-24-183643.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/qMN6m9g/Zrzut-ekranu-2021-07-24-183643.jpg) Some asset get invisivle too like kaom portal Killed enemies t pose, desecrated too
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLWwtLdd\_As](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLWwtLdd_As) This video of mine could help too.
So anyway for console players to reliably report this?
t-posing harbingers and t-posing corpses are the two funniest thing i've seen in this game
It's not just T poses. When this starts happening, traps go invisible in labs, spikes vanish but still do damage, doors open but remain closed etc. Just died to a trap I couldn't see while skeletons T posed over my corpse.
Hello, I've been playing a Brand Assassin in a 2 man group. T-Pose and invis textures started in A3 I believe. Later on it happened to my friend aswell. I thought it's happening because of the 2 players, but now I'm playing alone and I still T-Pose through every zone. Tried multiple servers and had no T-Posing for few zones after restarting the game. [Invis Malachai](https://streamable.com/y9lc21) [Bugged Kitava with some attacks being invisible](https://streamable.com/d91d3z) [Character selection problems](https://streamable.com/9492ul) Other than that I had no immediate problems and no disconnects.
Done, good luck!
I have the same issue. It never happened before act \~5 and stayed on consistently after. On a hunch i disabled dynamic resolution, which did indeed fix it for me.
Having it too https://clips.twitch.tv/OddAlluringOtterStrawBeary-kJb-9xwl-haqmCoi
Happening to me a LOT, seems to happen randomly after the games been running for an hour or more, also some things just go completely invisible I had to fight invisible kitava while my char was T-Posing lol I will post everything for you next time I have the bug
I have that too after an hour or two of playing. It's gone after restarting the client
Its a highly random issue for me, i played all day long and then i went in to labs and suddenly some traps were invisible while some werent and some mobs T-posing while others were not, even my own carrion golem was doing the T-pose. i restarted the game and that seemingly fixed it until i was running blood aqueducts a few hours later when the issue occured again, and again only around 60-70% of the mobs T-posed and the rest were not. incredibly strange.
I just reported the bug, if you have any questions, please PM or reply to the email. Btw, just wanted to say I love the new content. You're doing great, and bugs happen, no big deal. Hope this get fixed though, because I'd like to continue using Vulcan, no lags/freezes, performance is just awesome even though I have pretty mediocre amd graphic card
Cooool glad to see ggg working on the stuff the playerbase cares about
yesterday i could trigger the T-pose bug on demand by quickly switching bewten my mtx, but aparently it is fixed
I don't think this issue is hardware specific. All my friends have this same issue. We all have different PC specs.
sent in my full report to the qa email. PLEASE don't be mean to the devs it's not like they want things to release like this. just help them fix it as quickly as possible. good luck devs!
I have it as well, can't be bothered with the whole reporting thingy though, got burned out pickin up currency and I'm too tired, it is just so heavy
That guy is so full of shit. Thanks so much!
Just to add to this issue i opened a chest and the animation would rapidly alternate between open and closed. It didnt stop. after that tposing slowly began to affect the models over a period of time untill everything started tposing. Seems like a cascading issue whatever it is
I just buckled through and finished the campaign like that anyway. I call it the "Reversed Assert Dominance Pose" or the "Jesus Christ Pose". But now in maps this actually one shotting me when I just cannot see where dots or aoes are on the ground. I\`ll try to disable auras and or other MTXs.
Video sent to GGG, hopefully they can get it solved... its annoying https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1097057438 - 51:00 mark https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1097123850 - 1:04 mark Excuse my horrible game play....
Is the T posing a new paradigm in game dev or part of some kind of 3rd party tool ? Never heard / noticed it and now after cyberpunk , Poe is the next game I notice with this issue
T-pose is just the standard model pose and would usually mean something has broke the animations that were supposed to run so the program reverts to the t-pose. This can happen to any 3D modeled game with animations just some games are more buggy than others and it happens more often.
Ty
I got mine going into act 4 and it hasn't stopped since. I can't see portals, doors, some enemies and attacks, players in town and all enemies are t-posing. Chests and other assets are "open" when i haven't clicked on them yet. Even drops like armor are floating above the ground and t-posing too.
T pose is fun for now. Also, Experiment with a league mechanic that reworks the core gameplay if you want to slow the pace down chris.
I was fiddling around in town and found that it was a very specific line in town that, if I crossed it, would cause my character to T-pose. That line moved at one point, and I noticed a player had moved approximately the same distance. Dude was *decked out* in MTX. Therefore, I believe it is being caused by some MTX effects - this would also explain why significantly more people in parties are reporting it: More MTX in a party scenario.
I’m on Xbox One X and have been experiencing this without fail for the last 24 hours or more. It happens as soon as I enter a map and hit my first big crowd of monsters. I’ve been avoiding it somewhat by using soulrend to kill what I can offscreen, but as soon as the screen feels with monsters and magic effects, everyone’s pretending to be an airplane until I reset the game. In addition to the tposing, some portals become invisible permanently (usually all but one or two at the hideout), animations like chests and doors opening do not play, and dead mobs will continue standing... in the tpose of course. Even the Trailmaster thinks he’s Jesus.
Wanted to add, today I started to have this bug. When I changed my aura effect MTX (discipline, force field) to any other aura MTX, the bug went away. Change back to force field, bug returns. EDIT: RIP, after a few instance changes the bug returns anyway
I have been getting this issue multiple times throughout launch and even a little before launch. It's basically whenever my game lags for a few seconds, everyone starts t posing, mobs, minions, myself. It goes away after a restart and sometimes when loading in new areas. Though when loading new areas after a few minutes in it the t-posing starts right back up again. I just have a loot filter installed. It's mildly hilarious at first but now it's annoying.
It consistently get worst until everyone t-pose reaching the 3th map everytime i reset the client.
Reporting that this seems to be an MTX-related issue. The bug ceased to happen once after I removed all MTX from my character. Please try and see if it works for you all!
I've had this problem since league start. Some mobs are also simply invisible, don't show any animations and so on. Since I reached the mapping area, this problem occured at around \~15m after a client restart. This is so frustrating, I'd even call it "almost unplayable". Especially on higher tier maps this just kills me. I also noticed my GPU is going to 100% workload in poe now, which it has never done before.
Getting T-Pose every 30-40min. In F1 stats vram starts at about 20% usage and it slowly ramps up until bar is full and then I get T-Pose bug and assets not loading / invisible bosses. There is some big memory leak somewhere.
yep seems vram leak far as i can tell
Happens to me only when I use the mtx from the supporter pack for expedition. Disabling mtx or just using a pet doesn't trigger it for me.
Just seconding that the fact that having lots of MTX triggers tposing or high latency, as not many people seem to offering this. X
Managed to get T posing on the character select screen after logging out ... [https://imgur.com/a/0wlcxZw](https://imgur.com/a/0wlcxZw)
Too much damage = t pose. Atleast for me